r/MariahCarey

… a weird question:

I totally understand why Mariah wasn’t invited to the T&T wedding at MSG, but how did I-Don’t-Know-Her JLo get the invite? Any lamb is aware of that friendship?

I’ve only been a Mariah fan for about 8 months, so I always assumed I discovered her as an adult.

Then today something weird happened.

When I was a kid (around 18 years ago), my family had one of those random compilation VCDs/DVDs with both English and Arabic music videos on it. I distinctly remember it had Carole Samaha’s “Ettala’ Fia” and Madonna’s “Love Profusion.”

For years I’ve had this tiny memory in the back of my mind of another music video:
• a slow ballad
• lots of water/ocean
• the singer lying down
• very dark, almost monochromatic/night-time
• and… a lighthouse.

I could never remember whether it was an Arabic song or an English one.

Then it suddenly clicked.

I think it was My All.

The more I thought about it, the more everything lined up. The lighthouse is such a bizarrely specific detail that I don’t know why my brain would invent it after all these years.

If I’m right, then it’s kind of crazy to think Mariah has been sitting somewhere in my subconscious for almost two decades, and I only consciously rediscovered her 8 months ago.

It just goes to show the power of music and visuals.

Has anyone else had a moment where becoming a Lamb made you realise you’d actually encountered Mariah way earlier in life than you remembered?

Does anyone know anything about Pat's family upbringing/dynamic besides being racist, I've never seen any extended family members from that side say they have a family relation and you think they would considering she's been in the spotlight for 35 years. I'm pretty sure we've heard of some cousins from her dad. I know she mentioned she visited some relatives on her mom's side because she was lighter and more "presentable" (sorry if that's the wrong wording) than Morgan or Allison but I've never even seen a picture of her Irish grandparents even though we've seen the one picture of her paternal grandmother and grandfather a lot.

Hello guys,

Does anyone get the feeling that Mariah's vocals kinda fall flat in the mix of that song? Some great vocals there, but the whole production feels flat? Like it just reminds me of Fly Like A Bird, but Fly Like A Bird worked wonderfully as a strong piece.

I feel it could've been produced better, especially comparing it to other songs on the album.

So… on the music side of twitter a lamb said that Beyonce was in her legacy act stage he wasn’t even being mean… so a lot of people started coming for Mariah saying she’s a legacy act but I’m like.. yes she is.. and? Why is this being seen as a drag? Now IMO Beyonce is probably in the beginning stages of her legacy act bag.. like late 2000s Mariah, Madonna, and Janet. She’ll probably still sell decently but not competing with the likes of people like Sabrina, Taylor, Olivia, etc. But do you guys think Mariah being called a legacy act is derogatory?.. it’s definitely not to me. But maybe people have different meanings of what that could be. Thoughts? Like am I missing something lol

What kind of rebrand away from the "Christmas Queen" one would you think would fit her now?

It's just talk, keep it light 😊

I think soul-gospel singer-songwriter would be a good one. With finally more focus on her being a song-writer, not only a singer.

In the past she had these branding:

- adult contemporary (with partial erasure of her black identity)

- RnB fun, sexy, original, plenty of collaborations with hip-hop artists (with integration of her mixed-race identity)

- Christmas Queen (she doesn't even call herself it, but no harm money-wise!)

After listening to Here For It All and how she is adapting her vocals, I think that more collaborations with gospel and soul artists could rebrand her in this direction (still will underlying RnB). She can also start putting the highlight more on her being a "seasoned songwriter".

That said, this is just light talk, not saying what she should or shouldn't do. 😊