Taylor Swift is about to achieve an incredible milestone for the first time in the history of VMAs, at the ceremony in September.
Taylor needs to win only one of the nine awards she has been nominated for, to become the most awarded artist ever at the MTV VMAs.
The history-making milestone is more than likely for Taylor who is second to only Madonna in leading the nominations for the award show this year.
Movies that feels like Taylor Swift Album: 1989
1989 has the vibes of being an adult living in a big city with a huge friend group of girls while being in an on again and off again relationship with a guy. It also gives me summer vibes.
Obviously a lot of 80s movies could feel like 1989 but I feel like some later movies could also be recommended.
For the images I tried to incorporate the summery New York City vibes from the OG and the beachy vibes from the TV for these images
(Warning this is gonna be more ranty than my usual post. Also it might be a bit choppy cause I cut some stuff off)
As a mod of this sub I notice a lot of snarkers do not read the rules of this sub and immediately, and instead of contributing meaningful discussion they just automatically start posting negative comments without any nuance. SOMETIMES this is done for trolling but other times snarkers are generally confused and start complaining about being downvoted or having people disagree with them.
I also notice that snarkers who invade Swiftie positive or even neutral spaces are so much more rude than Swifties. Obviously there is a lot of Swifties that are rude and don’t accept any criticism but 9/10 when I remove someone for being rude it’s cause they are a snarker. They also often derail the conversation and don’t stay on topic just to start fight with subreddit members.
I just have to wonder why do snarkers invade Swiftie positive when there are several snark subreddit about Taylor and many popculture subreddit that negatively talks about Taylor.
Often times snarkers complain if they get banned for snarking meanwhile their subreddits do not allow people who participate in Taylor positive subs… why can’t snarkers understand that if their subreddits do not allow Swifties to post that we will be generally harsher to people who post on subreddits that have a lot of negative comments about Taylor?
I think a lot of snarkers do have a weird savior complex and they often call Swiftie spaces a cult and say shit like “you have been brainwashed” or whatever. That could be one reason why snarker are, at least somewhat, are generally interested in talking to Swifties instead of just trolling them snark on Taylor positive spaces. They believe them snarking will show people the truth somehow..
Another reason is that I think Snarkers would mistake a subreddit title “nuancingTaylorSwift” as a subreddit where people can comment whatever they want without any consequences… this is why we have a lot of Snarkers body shame her even though body shaming ANYONE is against the rules.
I just find it fascinating to not only spend time constantly hating someone on a subreddit about hating them and then go to a fan subreddit and also start hating the person to the point you start harassing their fans for just disagreeing with you. Sometimes it’s not even disagreeing.
I really wish that snarkers in general would just like… support other artist especially lesser known artist instead of complaining about Taylor (btw I kinda do want to make a post giving recs about lesser known songs based off your favorite Taylor songs. Partly cause a lot of Taylor haters were former fans but more so for current fans who want to take a break from her music or want to expand their music taste)
I also think this happens to Taylor a lot more than other celebs who have both a snark and fan subreddit. I don’t see much snarkers of other popstar invade Ariana, Sabrina and Olivia fan reddit (which btw will be harsher to you if you do participate in those subreddits even if you are positive about Taylor)
I know I’m gonna get a lot of snarkers attention here but hopefully this comment section won’t be too crazy. I’m actually kinda scared to post this post but I thought it would be an interesting discussion.
Woo-hoo!!!! Fate of Ophelia is an absolute*masterpiece!!!!
Hey everyone,
I’m a guy who mostly listens to rock and classic rock. Some of my most listened to bands are Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Deep Purple, Guns N’ Roses and Metallica, so Taylor is pretty far from my usual listening habits.
I’ve followed her on social media for a while, though, mainly because I enjoy watching clips from her performances. I like her stage presence and the whole visual side of her shows. Whenever I hear one of her songs on the radio, I usually enjoy it too.
The only full album of hers I’ve really listened to is 1989. I played it in the car over a period of time and ended up liking it, so now I’m curious to explore more of her music.
What album would you recommend listening to next for someone with my background? It doesn’t necessarily have to be her most rock influenced album. I’m open to anything that you think represents her well or shows a different side of her music.
I’m also curious about the common claim that most of her songs are about breakups. I realise that is probably an unfair simplification, but since I don’t know her catalogue well enough yet, I’d like to hear how people here view it. How important are breakups and relationships in her songwriting, and which songs or albums best show that she writes about other subjects too?
I’m asking in good faith and I’m interested in both positive and critical answers. Thanks!
it's a long post, i apologise but i’ve been thinking about how strange the online conversation around taylor has become, well it has been that way more or less, but how little space there seems to be for her to just exist as a person. anything she does gets picked apart and examined from every possible angle, often through the most bad faith interpretation possible. her last few releases, her wedding, her haircut, her appearance, literally anything brings out some incredibly weird reactions.
this isn’t me trying to make anyone feel sorry for her or saying she should be above criticism. i just think there’s a larger conversation to be had about the environment that exists around her online. people can say almost anything about taylor, make something up about her, and run with it, and sometimes it feels like there’s very little distinction between criticism, speculation and outright fabrication.
even the fact that her snark subreddit is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, celebrity snark communities on reddit is interesting to me. it's a reflection of how much attention and energy exists around dissecting one woman.
i think this is bigger than taylor. when this kind of treatment becomes so commonplace around one of the most visible female artists in the world, i wonder if it also lowers the bar for what’s considered acceptable to say about women in the public eye. because i’ve noticed how comfortable people online have become with saying genuinely vile things about female celebrities, particularly female artists, and i wonder if the constant scrutiny of taylor has played some part in making that kind of discourse feel normal.
if there’s seemingly no limit to what can be said about one woman, whether it’s criticism, speculation, personal attacks or outright lies, it becomes harder to argue that there’s still a meaningful line when it comes to how we talk about female artists generally.
what do you guys think?
I wanted to thank the mods and everyone who's engaged with me in this space since I came in a rip-roaring mess. While the other Taylor subreddit is cool, I find more passion here. Does that mean that I come across some real hardcore Swifties? Yes, but it's nice to have a community to tell me "Um, you're wrong and you have internalized misogyny."
I'm a 41 year old Black woman and while I would call myself a fairweather Swiftie, I can never say that her music hasn't been there for some important times in my life. I lost my husband in 2014 and I don't know why, but listening to "Shake it Off," "Blank Space" and "Style" made me feel less alone. That whole album got me through 2014/2015. Folklore happened when the pandemic happened and I had begun to creatively reach a peak. I hate Matty Healy, but I love TTPD (especially the anthology). Showgirl is not my favorite and I have my reasons for that.
As for her political views, etc, I don't think it matters anymore because this administration will perform violation like it's normal. Using Taylor's music despite her preventing certain people is a violation. Same is true for all of the female artists that have had their art violated. I also had to remember that talk is cheap.
A certain husband of one of the greatest vocalists in the world would rather attack a football player who kneeled for police brutality (This is about Jay-Z and how he keeps coming at Colin Kaepernick).
I think that if Taylor says anything (although she's playing 4D chess), it will hit hard and it will make men wither.
The Travis photo is just because he looks freaking hot and Taylor, I so get it.
If this is not the right place for this, please advise. That said, I have feelings.
I see a lot of posts about Taylor's haters and how parasocial they are. I also see how parasocial her fans are. Basically, there is a lot of parasocial relationships happening there.
I tend to call myself a former Swiftie but really, it's more complicated than that. I love her music. Talking about it. Talking about her sometimes.
It's complicated because I don't hate Taylor. I still like her so much and yet, I am harsh on her like I have a parasocial relationship with her. Discussing her here has actually brought me back to her music.
I think back to how Britney was treated in the early aughts and frankly, I don't think that anyone has ever been treated that horribly by the press and by the public. Because of that, I am so happy that Taylor has been protected in a way that Britney wasn't.
That said, Taylor is polarizing. I think it's because a lot of people look at her and assume that she's not talented. Or they concentrate on her relationships. Or now, it's the billionaire thing. Her intent was never to be polarizing (I think).
She's trying, though. She donates. She knows when it's safer to say nothing. She's doing the best she can with the constant onslaught she has to deal with. That man's administration is picking at her and other white/white passing women because they think these women should be subservient to them. Do I wish she did more? Yes, but look at the world.
We're in a world where nothing will be the same again and the truth is becoming unveiled almost every day. And my truth is that I am a fairweather Swiftie who does not like Showgirl.
Edited to remove that paragraph that didn't make sense.
Second Edit: TL;DR: I like Taylor Swift. The hate discourse around her is hella loud and unnecessary, and she's doing her best.
In 2009 Taylor Swift did a photoshoot for T Magazine called “Little Miss Sunshine” which turned out to be one of her most iconic and unique photoshoot.
This is such an interesting photoshoot for Taylor and I don’t think she did anything like this before and even since. It honestly feels like something Kerli, Britney Spears or Lady Gaga would do. She is wearing pieces from Rick Owens (who she was apparently a big fan of). The photoshoot feels avant grade using a unique color palette of green, teals, sliver and yellow. The photoshoot is supposed to portray the concept of a luxury doll house and I think it does a great job of that! Taylor’s innocent face mix with the bright make up really works for this style.
Speaking about make up I always find it strange how this look is thrown into the “slavic doll” (ughh hate that name) Taylor era by her haters since a lot of haters dislike how Taylor (supposedly) only wears red lipstick now… however most of the pictures of this shoot has red lips. She started wearing Red lipstick for Allure in 2009 so this bold make up style would definitely be new for her and I honestly would love for modern day Taylor to wear bold make up like this.
Honestly I would love Taylor to do another photoshoot like this in general but unfortunately Taylor doesn’t do much photoshoot for magazines anymore :(
But with that said what do you guys think about this shoot? Do you want Taylor to do more photoshoot like this? And what songs do you think fit this shoot?
I personally think Dancing With Our Hands Tied, Haunted, Wonderland, Ready For It and weirdly enough How You Get The Girl and All You Had To Do Was Stay fits this shoot. Though I feel like Taylor hasn’t made much music that fits this aesthetic.
(PS… I’m planning to make another “Discussing Taylor’s Photoshoot” post around the first week of September… feel free to guess which one it is ;])
What career could you see Taylor having if she wasn't an artist?
I feel like she'd make an excellent teacher. She engages with her fans quite often and I believe she would give the same devotion to students. Even by doing Easter Eggs as hints, I feel like she'd be able to keep students focused and engaged by making learning fun somehow. Of course, she's also has strong communication and gets her point across well, inspiring others while doing so.
Similar to how Selena has Rare, Rihanna has Fenty, what business do you think she would get into other than music? If yes, what would it be?
I always think that if she did start her own makeup brand she would definitely make a “red lip classic” lipstick, it’s too iconic
I know that Taylor called Joe a killer in "...Ready for It?" and she also said "Two Graves/One Gun" in "So long london," not to mention "You're Losing Me," but I'm wondering if she ever wrote in any of her songs before her breakup with him that if he kills her (metaphorically) then he would be doing it to himself as well.
Did that happen or am I imagining it?
i really don’t understand the entitlement from this writer. she acknowledges that it’s intrusive to expect taylor to show her wedding dress, then spends the entire article explaining why we somehow still deserve to see it.
yes, taylor has shared a lot about her relationships, but that doesn’t mean she’s agreed to share everything, especially private and meaningful moments. the whole idea of her life being a movie with a “missing final scene” is so strange to me. her wedding isn’t the conclusion to a story she’s writing for the public, she’s a person, not a character. also it feels quite misogynistic suggesting her story simply ends with marriage, as if that’s was the point
of her career.
being invested in her music and career doesn’t give us ownership over her personal life. we can be curious about the dress without believing we’re entitled to see it.
and the idea that seeing her dress would somehow reveal the “real” taylor feels backwards. choosing to keep something private is also a statement about who she is and what she values. there’s a difference between curiosity and entitlement, and this article crosses that line while pretending it doesn’t.
Not exactly nuanced but I just found it hilarious how there's a joke about Taylor Swift having a song for every situation and I heard the line "it must be exhausting always rooting for the anti-hero." Yeah, that's exactly how it feels...
this is so crazy, after taylor moved and removed all the songs used by the white house tiktok account, they posted a tiktok again with the sound "i bet you think about me" and with the caption "we know you think about me" so gross, like this is harrasment