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Illari vs Wuyang

Trying to learn a new support, interested in a damage focused support. Don't really enjoy playing Bap. Which would you guys suggest between the 2?

Illari is probably easier being hitscan and more consistent at getting elims with her weapon and ult and I guess better at off angles

But Wuyang has a bit of utility and maybe more versatile? Like his ult can be defensive but also help a teammate who's playing dive. Probably more fun than Illari. But also I'm not sure if its gonna take a long time to get used to the water orbs when I could just play Illari and be a hitscan dps.

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u/dokdodokdo — 7 hours ago

What to do if enemy duo is constantly aiming me specifically as a support

There's this enemy duo a tank and a dps that changes heroes constantly depending on which support I picked, I went ana at first then their dps was sierra and constantly aiming me the entire game going flank/behind and looking for me every single fucking time. Then when i swap to briggite their tank swapped to ram to bash my skull whenever i got even 5 meters near my team, then i switch to juno to try to float away to get a better 1 v 1 situation if the dps comes to me , that fucker swapped to anran to dodge my right click and closes the gap. What in the fk do i do in this situation? LOL

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u/c016 — 8 hours ago

Hardstuck in Bronze, is it over?

I was silver 3, and now im hardstuck bronze 1 :( i play support and switch between mizuki, ana, mercy, kiri and illari. i think i play okay enough, and ive been blaming my dps and tank for my losses but its gotten to a point 😭 will it take me super long to get to atleast plat? atp im planning on abandoning this account so i can create a new one and play good in my placement matches so i can rank up faster.

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u/idevourmalice — 10 hours ago

[Q] Ana main — How to hit those huge heal numbers?

Hey, I've been a long-time Overwatch player — hardstuck Silver 1 — but as the title simply says, I'm getting "outhealed" by all the auto-aim healers in the game. Usually Kirikos and Moiras.

On a non-Control map (or when I'm — we're* — not rolled) I can hit maybe 10k, 12k consistently. I thought that's pretty decent then I get flamed by the 40k healing Kiriko. [Now this is really an exaggeration, usually if our team is taking that much damage there's a fundamental flaw and I won't actually claim this is my fault].

But basically I do watch some Pro gameplay in the OWL and OWCS, and even some high-profile streamers. They can consistently double my healing while doing roughly the same amount of damage -2k maybe....on Bap, Kiriko and Ana.

Now I know perhaps looking at numbers isn't going to help me climb but if I'm not pulling my weight, I'm never going to climb anyway. I'd like some advise, specifically for Ana:

- How do I get impactful heals on the team? I'm not trying to "beat" the other healer, but I don't want to have like a quarter of their heals. I can heal, but they just seem to heal more, faster.

- I've heard a lot of times that it's "support who can heal" not "healer/healbot" but yeah, how do you achieve both? Unfortunately at my rank I am hardwired to prioritize keeping everyone topped off, but I usually (to avoid getting a random headshot) tuck myself around corners and peek to heal and get a random shot in. Can anyone give a small tip here to assist in being impactful in the damage department too?

* At bronze/silver, there is no "we". Everyone is trying to get that Counter-Strike Clutch.

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u/Wolfcape — 12 hours ago

Can you OTP brig viably?

And if so what play style would you run with her?

She's my favourite character to play but it feels like if you play brig the intended way, you just gotta pray your team can perform with the extra protection you provide from dive. Solo carrying tends to require a more aggressive play style that brig doesn't normally bring.

Can you OTP brig viably to higher elos? (Even if it's harder than on other heroes)

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u/Typical-Roll-2171 — 9 hours ago

Simplifying Tank

Hey, just recently started to learn tank in general and wanted to make sure I understand the role, fundamentals and different playstyles (5v5 if that matters).

Unlike DPS or Support, I feel like my responsibilities aren't as clear on Tank compared to other roles.

From my understanding, creating/holding/fighting for space is my main objective.

If that's the case, is this also true for Dive Tanks?

Generally speaking, would you say to learn/play tanks based on the game mode and map?

For example Poke Tanks on maps with longer sightlines?

What are some absolute basic rules as Tank everyone should know and follow when they start playing Tank?

Like some common ones such as taking natural cover, don't peak wide when it's not necessary, move from cover to cover in the open etc.

What are the biggest differences in fundamentals compares to other rules and which apply for which playstyle (let's cluster them into Dive, Poke and Brawl for the sake of simplifying things for me).

Thanks in advance!

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u/linkinAT — 7 hours ago

How do I deal with toxicity from more skilled players as a new player?

(I hope I’m using the right subreddit for this, new to reddit too.)

Hello, as the title says I am relatively new to Overwatch, started playing last week. I’m a Switch 2 player and I understand that might make me a worse player than most when it comes to cross play.

I really like playing tank and specifically Sigma.

The only problem is that more or less every time I go into quick play I have people on my team making fun of me, and it’s really getting to me unfortunately because of how anxious I am.

It’s basically scared me into sticking to v.s ai rather than even consider quick play; and sometimes not even play the game that day at all, so does anyone have any tips? Thank you in advance.

Edit: I did what a majority of replies said and turned off text chat, it’s helped to an almost impossible degree!! First quick play match I played after I turned chat off I somehow pulled off a 37 kill victory with a potg. Super proud of myself as it’s been my best game yet, thank you all! I’ll probably be keeping text chat off until I’m more confident in my ability, until then I’ll be in blissful ignorance of what my team is saying.

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u/narrat3333d — 13 hours ago

GM1 Lucio on Console and Unsure on How to Play?

Hero: Lucio (Blanq)
Rank: GM1
Console

Hello! Lucio main here.

I can’t lie I feel like a fraud lmao

I just got GM1… But I’m not joking that I’m asking for help. I feel like I’m stuck depending on my team while I’m being a glorified Brig. I know that my mechanics are a lot worse than most in GM so I’d appreciate some certainty (and possibly clarifications) on generally anything :)

Game 1 (loss): Believed that my sole role is being a bulldog for my bap (and failing)
- random beats, amps
- felt like I could have helped my DPS but clung to my bap like he’s my sugar daddy
Code: JTNDS8

Game 2 (win): Less need to peel, depended on the team majority of the time, but felt like I got carried
- sometimes attempted to help DPS but ended up feeding
Code: DCJC44

Game 3 (win): Same as game 2
Code: JQN0N0

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u/john_withreddit — 16 hours ago

One tricking is the fastest way to get better in mid-high ranks, specifically on an alt account

Obligatory preface - even though the lack of flexibility and possible skill/rank disparity will throw some games, people’s ranks dont depend on those games and you don’t owe anyone the/your best hero. People will cry and report but as long as you are trying to win you aren’t doing anything wrong.

This is aimed at diamond+ players but more specifically I think it helps most for people that have binged the coaching videos and understand the concepts, but haven’t broken the barrier to implementing them.
Source: this was me for many years. My climb from bronze to masters was 8 years with very high dedication. I then did this with a few heroes for less than 20 hours each and shot to mid gm, quitting after ending season t500 less than a year later.

The What vs the Why

The value this strategy has comes from understanding, specifically the kind of understanding that can’t be learned through even the most in depth guides, only limit testing. One tricking forces the understanding through bad matchups and team comps. That understanding is the why.

Overwatch is too complicated to be “solved”. 50 something heroes, a similar number of maps, and a seemingly infinite number of ways your teammates / the enemies can mess up your plan. Having an idea of WHAT to do in general scenarios or matchups is great but knowing WHY things work can be applied to new scenarios you aren’t prepared for or edge cases where you feel like you are doing everything correctly but it just doesn’t work. This is what separates the good players from the really good players, and is also the reason that pros can make guides for new heroes within a day of them coming out.

Implementation

Most of the learning here comes from the bad matchups and bad games. Here’s the thought process that I used to turn bad games into improvement and keep myself from getting discouraged.

1). Take the specific issue you are having and generalize it. Usually this will be a bad matchup, so think about the advantages / disadvantages of your kit and theirs. In games where the problem is the quirks of teammates or enemy playstyles the thought process still works, but will generally be less helpful improvement wise.
2). Find a generalized solution to this problem. The purpose of the generalizing is to make the answer more obvious and make sense of the chaotic but ultimately irrelevant mistakes going on all game.
3). Apply this general solution to the current situation you are in. Sometimes the result will seem counterintuitive but more often than not it will work, and in cases where it doesn’t, you will usually discover a new problem or consideration, possibly an overarching one that you hadn’t seen.

Examples:
My rein shield breaks against sigma and I get rocked and die. —> sigma is long ranged consistent damage and rein is close ranged with a limited resource to protect himself. The range difference means my protection resource is being drained while closing the distance leaving less than enough for fighting when I get close. —> I have to close the distance with minimal use of my protection resource or find time to recharge in safety. —> I will try walking around through a different lane where I won’t be in los of their team as much, saving my shield. If I am missing a lot of shield even after this rotation I’ll find the closest safe spot and wait to recharge shield before going in. Shield hopping also helps preserve shield.

I don’t get healed when I dive in because their dive is on my backline, and their backlines more self sufficient than mine so I don’t win the trade. —> if both teams are in I am losing the trade, so I need to go in before or after their dive. If I try to go before, they will just dive when I do. I should only try this if I know they aren’t ready to dive. Otherwise I need to go after. Otherwise I have to go after, meaning their backline will be unpressured and able to support their dive better. I have to take pressure off my team somehow other than backline pressure. —> I see their dps don’t have angles to go in with their monkey, but mine do, I can dive now because they aren’t set up yet. Now their genji is on an off angle ready for their tank to jump in, I will fight him for this angle, taking the pressure of a genji dive off my team. Their monkey wasn’t able to finish my backline without genjis help and jumped out, I can go in now.

Tips

This strategy also works in reverse. Applying this from the enemies perspective gives you an idea of what traps to look out for.

If their team comp is covering each others weaknesses, realize that means their strengths aren’t aligned. A jack of all trades is a master of none. This is where you adjust playstyle around your teams strengths instead of your own personal strengths. For example if you are playing sigma mei Lucio into a rein with poke dps you will probably find yourself kiting the rein and getting suffocated by the angles their dps are taking. Play brawly sigma, their rein is better close range but your mei will even that out and their dps won’t have time to get picks from their angles

Naming your account a pun on the hero you are OTP will get a lot of the counterswap fanatics off your back, and be clear about the fact that you are a 1 trick so your team can play accordingly.

One tricking will help you learn how to counterswap. So many people will play reaper to “counter the monkey” and then spend the whole game flanking while the monkey kills their backline. It’s the playstyle of the hero that’s the counter not just the abilities.

Tell me your opinions on this and thank you for coming to my ted talk.

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u/Material_Movie_9337 — 20 hours ago

Dear silver and gold tanks

Please don't run alone into enemy team. It never worked even once. It wont work for the 10th time. Just stay with the team and if you dont feel too confident, just stay alive and play around cover and let your supports heal you from time to time. There is a good chance that your dps or supports are even slighlty better than dps and supports in enemy team. This is enough to win and climb. Just dont suicide every 20 second. Thank you

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u/stefan8800 — 1 day ago

Higher playtime=lower rank

How come when I play the game a lot, I end up being a lower rank than when I play less?

If I play around 35 competitive tank games a day for weeks, not only does my rank fluctuate a lot, but it usually averages out around low Masters. But if I limit myself to around 10 comp games a day at most, I’ll maintain something like a 90% win rate until I reach low to mid GM, which is also where I stay if I continue playing fewer than 10 games a day.

I only play tank in 5v5, and this genuinely doesn’t make sense to me. Which of these would actually be considered my true rank?

This has been a consistent experience for me throughout the years I’ve played this game, so I know for a fact that this is how it works for me.

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u/IntelligentWave194 — 23 hours ago

New player - how to improve decision-making and create more wins? (DPS)

ForensicChip
Ashe - B3PNT7, Rialto
Tracer - 951R33, Runasapi
Echo - E1GQ57, Circuit Royal

On Rialto I think I did alright overall but my aim/mechanics was the problem? As well as positioning too vulnerable to dive/genji?
On runasapi I really thought I was playing well and had a ‘this loss is my team’s fault’ mindset postgame but obv that prob wasn’t true so wanted that checked.
On Circuit Royal idk we just got destroyed and I’m confused like how we got totally dominated. Like I didn’t know what to do to have a change in momentum or anything.

This is still unranked/casual games, not comp (not unlocked yet). So no confirmed rank, but probably all beginners/silver perhaps?

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u/Wat_Is_My_Username — 16 hours ago

How to effectively get a handle on expanding your hero pool?

I've been playing Overwatch pretty much consistently since release, but I've always mainly gravitated towards Comp. As a result, I find it hard to practice heroes (I know that's what QP is for, but it's near impossible to actually play in QP).

My pool isn't small, by any means. Tank I have Sigma, Orisa, Zarya, and D.Va. DPS I have Reaper, Ashe, Soldier, Sierra (a WIP), and a bit of Hanzo. Support I'm comfortable with almost all heroes except Brig, Wuyang, and Juno.

Don't get me wrong, I can play almost any hero passably (Except Genji), but being high Plat/low Diamond, it sucks looking at an entire toolbox and only knowing a few tools. Is it "acceptable" to practice heroes in Comp, provided your team is doing well? Obviously if you're floundering while your team is struggling, you'd be an asshole. But I imagine that if the other 5 members (I play 6v6 open queue) have it handled, is there anything wrong with experimenting?

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u/Janawham_Blamiston — 23 hours ago

What to do when the dps players are not that good

Im equally as bad as the other members of my team i know that. I play support.

But what should i do when the dps are not getting elims or peeling every once in a while. I tried dealing more damage but everyone im gold refuses to take cover so im healing 95% of the time.

A lot of games boils down to a genji or a anran diving the supports, we focus on them and the rest of the team dies because me and the other support are killing the enemy diver.

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u/Dagon_Reanimator — 1 day ago

dealing with hurt feelings.

Well, I feel like this belongs in this sub tbh, because I imagine it's a pretty big part of each of our comp experience.

I just played a game of tracer, and I wasn't even playing that badly I don't think. Either way, my teammates told me to swap, and started laughing at me for how badly I was playing. It hurt my feelings. Normally, I would dismiss it, but I'm tired of doing that.

I'm hoping someone has some insight on how to look at it. I don't like feeling like I'm the only one dealing with it.

Edit: Thanks for all the support guys, it's great seeing all of your replies. I think I'm just gonna mute when people start insulting, and leave chat on. I don't wanna miss out on all the great interactions I can have avoiding the worst of them. Maybe later I'll decide that there's too much of it to be worth it, and I'll just keep it off, but that's the plan for now. Good luck in your games!

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u/hyucklord — 1 day ago

Free Coaching/VOD Reviews!

Hello! I'm Sandstarmie - an OW player that enjoys helping others! I reached GM on support for season 1 (with mostly Kiriko) and GM on dps in season 4 with Ashe. I reached GM on both dps (Hanzo) and support (Ana, Zen, Baptiste, Lucio) in season 17 and am the best solo Hanzo player in NA (season 17)! I reached Champion on support in season 20 (Ana, Zen, Lucio, Illari, and Baptiste) and peaked rank 4 (fake rank 4 with the new challenger score). I just reached Champion with Hanzo only in the new season 2 (does this make me the best Hanzo in NA?) I wanted to give back to the community by helping players reach their goals with improvement by reviewing their games.

I will try to review every game that gets posted here!
I review the replays and stream them at the same time - I will time stamp the VOD if you can't watch live too! I may upload the review of the VODs to Youtube as well.

I enjoy reviewing games of any rank and in any mode, so send your replay code, and I will try to help you :)

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u/Sandstarmie — 1 day ago

Do we know when the next rank reset is coming?

I've been bouncing up and down between gold and plat and I feel burned out. I might give it a break for awhile. I'd like to plan to come back after the rank reset, but I don't know when the next one will be. Does anyone know? Will it be at the end of Season 2, or the end of Season 3? I don't know if they've officially announced it, but any insight would be helpful.

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u/Good_Policy3529 — 1 day ago

Could I get some tips on my gameplay

Code: Q1Q405 rank:Silver 4

Hi there I am the sombra in this lobby I played what I thought was well but at the end of the game my tank was flaming me telling me to learn DPS even though I thought I played really well and I know I made some mistakes but I ended with the most kills and least deaths so is there really something I'm missing in my gameplay? Thank you any tips are welcomed

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u/Excellent_Bath_3920 — 23 hours ago

New in the game

Hi guys, I'm new to the game (to be honest I'm new to hero shooters in general) and I wanted some tips to start playing. I've known the game for a while, my boyfriend has been playing for a few years and I follow some of his gameplays, but I'm interested in playing just for now, and precisely in the role he hates playing the most, which is the tank, so I wanted some tips, character recommendations to start, things like that. I would appreciate it if you could help.

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u/All1nho — 1 day ago

So about mouse sensitivity...

I have been playing with 3200 dpi at 10% in game sensitivity. I'm now learning this is apparently really high?

I lowered my mouse to 1200, but I'm wondering if that's enough. I'm also not entirely sure what to put the in game sensitivity at.

May I ask what dpi and sensitivity you all use, as well as what characters you mainly play?

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u/Ignecratic — 1 day ago