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The Pain Of Support

Juno: 20 elims, 4 deaths, 11k heals 7k damage,

still lose because the enemy tank plays better.

What else can i geniuenly do? Is solo queuing possible out of Plat?

I’m not saying i play perfect, i learn from every game i play. take high ground, angles, pick off low hps, keep my tank up, support the other support, don’t front line, i watch YT tutorials on how to play better and i apply them. What can i actually do?

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u/garlicmayobutthol — 3 hours ago

Should Sigma push Zarya?

Having a disagreement with a friend. He's the sigma and I asked him to push the Zarya with me (widow) and he said he has to push the cart. Who is correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxJK1s7BsZs

In game time is 3:40ish

Replay code KG94E0

Adding more text to fulfill the request because there is a minimum character count.

u/Fourr — 3 hours ago

Solo carrying in low ranks with D.va is impossible. I cant get out of Silver

Im OTP-ing D.va and at start of season few days ago i've had a really good amount of wins, i didnt have issues gettings wins in row, but over time now its getting extremely hard stuck.

Now in last 10 games, i have won only 1.

I dont deny it, i make mistakes and im not a perfect player, but my team genuinely cannot recover if i make a single mistake.

It feels like more than 50% of the games my team is in clear DPS gap. I genuinely cannot do anything to help my team win or alleviate it. At times they can ever have bigger damage stats, but they dont make any useful plays, they just keep attacking the enemy tank without killing anyone and not progressing anything.

Every single time i have to manually remind my DPS to target enemy healers or they'll just keep targeting the enemy tank like they are dumb.

Enemy team will always have Moira who is stuck to their tank with gorilla glue, thats fine, but my Moira players focus on DPSing and just give up following me when i dive in and go back.

While i dive in DPS players do absolutely nothing to backstab the enemy team that usually completely focuses on me, and i usually dive into weak healers or DPS so my team has a numbers advantage and can push further.

People expect me to just play completely static, sit and use my shield on the point while they shoot enemy tank in face... actually they cant even do that properly or deal any damage to him.

I've had many cases where i could kill 3 enemies, and my whole team would be fighting a tank and a healer and just die.. No one ever targets the enemy healer.

Supports on other hand can be a hit or miss, i cant complain too much about healing because i've had genuine cases very often where healers would focus a lot of me, but in other terms i rarely get a supports that use their ults in good moment, or supports that do anything else besides healing to close the gap between teams.

Also during a lot of games i'd get matched against DPS diver that my team simply cant play against. Im stuck in 3 places now, i have to dive, hold the objective and also help my own backline. This is genuinely unplayable

Why can no one stay alive for 5 seconds on their own in this rank? I went to play 5-10 matches in quickplay to see how it is from DPS-s perspective again, and its genuinely extremely easy to look for gaps in low ranks like these and just target healers.

Replay codes for last 10 matches:

8T0Y7M, Y2Z7BE, T3A7G8, QH075E, N9F3MP, 1ZH5F5, EHDD39, AG9N2K, 0Y0MSF

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u/sanninorochi — 5 hours ago

I finally broke my biggest ever losing streak by... doing literally nothing differently.

I really dont understand what it is about this game, but I have lost almost 20 games in a row, and only now finally broke it. I have zero explanation as to why, but I've dropped 2 full ranks and am still losing. I dont even know if its possible to get so unlucky, but I want to share some VODS because I have no clue what I could possibly be doing wrong.

Previous loss, Midtown: VPKPR2

Most recent win, New Junk City: JSYJ6S

Battletag is Carrion, playing Cassidy both games. Plat 3.

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u/Worth_Video4523 — 6 hours ago

made the pc switch

so i’ve always been a console player and overwatch is my main game atm. i’ve been gm/top 500 illari mainly and quite mid at anyone else lol.
anyways long story short ive now built my first ever pc as for some reason just decided i wanted something new. anyway i cant even wasd properly like ammo cooked? how on earth is something as basic like movement that hard 🤣 granted i knew it would be a new skill but still it’s just majorly frustrating. it makes me feel like i just don’t have working hands or whatever and i fixate. anyway any console players who made the switch plz tell me it gets easier. i can somewhat aim although i still feel i have no idea how to use a mouse more in the sense of readjusting n so on. basically just need any tips tricks or even just hope 💀 also barely played and icl my left fingers be achey

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u/DarthScout — 10 hours ago

Bronze Juno looking for advice in comp

Hello! I have 101 hours on Juno and 500 hours (Although my steam says I have over 1k hours???) in ow without any previous experience in pvp. This game deranked me at 50%. So I’m bronze again. I also loose in qp a lot. I genuinely don’t know how to improve. I feel like when I win I’m being carried by randoms but mostly I loose in qp too. Any advice would be appreciated so much! I really enjoy playing Juno and want to carry my team.

COMP CODE: BYY4XA
QP: Q0H2W4

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u/Substantial_Bird1179 — 12 hours ago

Newish player, frustrated and not sure what to do.

I'm a new/returning player. I played some of overwatch 1 near release, but never played much or competitively.

I've been playing lots of damage 5v5 and got to gold 5 in a day after being hardstuck silver. My mains are Tracer and Widowmaker.

I've been really leaning into learning Tracer. She is so much fun, and I enjoy playing well on her. However even if it seems I can do well or provide value by being a consistent annoyance to the backline and drain resources, sometimes it feels my individual value doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

I'm by no means a good or perfect player. I'm a very mid player. I probably don't see many mistakes I commit in games.

I've been trying to maintain my gold 5, and it just seems impossible. I win a couple times, then lose harder and lose more points when I do. I go to silver 1, then back to gold 5.

I could be playing better for sure. The last two games I played trying to defend my gold 5, my tank keeps on diving and leaving the team behind. I try to play around it, initiating when he is diving, but It feels incredibly difficult to provide value as tracer when this happens.

I realize that there's a whole lot of importance on the tank in this game, and it seems unwinnable sometimes when he's struggling.

However, if I'm playing solo queue, how do I consistently carry as tracer, or as any DPS, to win consistently and actually rank up? Is it better to swap more often to try and counter? Any tracer mains have any advice?

I come from Tarkov, so a lot of emphasis is placed on the individual player, and that's what I'm used to. In this game, it feels like even when you're playing well and learning and really trying to improve, there are games where it feels impossible to provide enough value as a solo or to have enough individual impact to where you win a game despite having struggling teammates.

Side notes, but I have also seen that turning off text-chat has been for the better. I had no idea this game had such a toxic playerbase. Also, the tank on my team had no rank, so I'm assuming he was doing placements or hidden mmr? Either way it just felt unfair to me.

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u/tarkytarkenjoyer — 13 hours ago

What goes through the heads of high elo players during the game?

I feel as if I’ve fallen victim to consuming too much ow coaching content. I have a good grasp of the game (diamond 1 sup) but i’m starting to realize i’m thinking about the game way too much. For instance, during a fight i’m trying to keep a tab on where everyone is at on both teams, listening to every cool down and mentally picturing a timer (even if i’m not fighting them), wondering why x dps isn’t on lane 1. Just constant plays, strategies, micro, macro, min, max, ult economy. And then i watch a top 100 streamer and their vc will be like “uhh did they use beat last fight?” “uhh i don’t know. maybe?” I genuinely thought the analysis was the biggest part of the game and once you have that down you’ll skyrocket, but then i heard apply say “You idiots over complicate the game so much. get in a good spot and shoot your gun at who ever you see.” So now my questions are, what genuinely is separating a masters player from a gm player? what do you guys think about when you’re playing? does it all just boil down to aim? i know enemy prediction plays a good part, but if im doing all this analysis and im hardstuck diamond, are you guys doing the same and are aiming better and using cooldowns better or are you just playing kovaaks and shooting everything?

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u/AwwhHellnawh — 20 hours ago
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Flicking hero’s vs Tracking Hero’s? Rechoosing my mains.

I play lots of overwatch but it’s only 1000 hours in that I’m realizing that my flicking aim is better than my tracking aim overall!
In the last 2-ish months i’ve tried the JEENZ custom game for aim training. I’ve tried it when I felt at my best and worst mechanically and every time my flicking is better than tracking.
Low, medium, and High sense? Linear? Expo? Dual Zone? Never matters🤷🏾it’s always flicking better than tracking

What are some good heros in every role that reward good flicks?

I’m only asking because I’m reconsidering my mains and I’d love some guidance. 😇
On Tank, I play Dva, Domina, and Mauga
On Damage, I play Widowmaker, Bastion, and Soldier
On Support, I play Ana, Kiriko, & Lifeweaver

Any suggestions or tips? I’d super appreciate it

Also maybe a debatable question, but…
What requires better flicking? hitscan or projectile heroes?

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u/Low-Secret-6781 — 19 hours ago

Recently moved from Rivals and struggling.

Hello all, I hope you are having a great day.

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I am a tank main who recently got into Overwatch. I was peak Celestial 3 in season 7 (top 1.5%) and am regularly in GM (top 5%). I recently got into Overwatchnbut I am struggling a lot. I finished my placements and got Gold 4 on tank and its been hell since then. I cant seem to climb ranked but have deranked to silver 2. I play in SEA for context. Every game I am not doing bad but I cant seem to come up with the extra oomph to win. And my teammates dont seem to be much of an help either. I am usually playin Winton or Hog and I can carry pretty easily on Winton but I still lose, mind you I do not have the best aim so I rely on my game sense a lot. Its like I win 2 and then I get hit by bad teammates while the other team is stacked. Its making me tilt im games with the constant tank switch remarks in chat. I would appreciate some tips and tricks so I dont lose my sanity. Thank you!

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u/uuYwYuu — 1 day ago

Habitually situational: What character should I learn that has good utility on any map?

For context, I’m maining Anran, Symmetra, Widowmaker currently. Domina for tank, Juno, Illari or Wuyang for support.

I feel like a lot of my favorites right now that I have the most experience in really are most useful for very specific situations or maps but lack a certain Swiss Army knife style versatility.

I’m still learning a lot about the game and developing my playstyle, but I want to expand my roster a bit more so I feel confident in having them in my back pocket if things turn away from our favor. I know that 5v5 is preferred by most, but I am far more into the chaos of 6v6 when I play, so any role is welcome, but DPS is probably preferred.

If anyone could point me in a direction or even give some options with pros and cons, that would be super helpful!

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u/farfrommemorable — 1 day ago

3 years ago, i was hardstuck. Today, i am still hardstuck.

Been playing since April 2019. 7 Years later, I steel show no signs of improvements.

Being a competitive guy, its getting harder and harder to find reason to play the game. A huge part of the game is winning and progression, and if there's so little of it, it becomes less fun.

Recently came from a break. when i did my placements end of last season, I placed gold on all roles - Gold 1 Tank, Gold 5 DPS, Gold 2 Support.

Not only I couldn't keep my ranks after placing, i actually demoted on EVERY single role - Gold 2 Tank, Silver 2 DPS, Gold 4 Support.

I know yall are going to ask for replay codes, I will provide, but genrally - WTH is going on? How can one play this game for 7 years (1.5~ year brake), almost daily, and not improve? How do you generally step up and rank up? What should i focus on?

Its getting really depressing.

Some REPLAY CODES:

TANK: play less of this lately, even tough im considering myself a tank main

DPS: JHS8PT (please keep in mind this was me playing while tilted, not throwing, just mad)

SUPPORT:YMTFKJ, H6STCX

Edit: the nametag is CINIMINI

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u/badisbadois — 1 day ago
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Bronze Moira gameplay review request

Greetings everyone. I'm coming back to OW after a long absence and ranking from the ground up. I'm posting a replay for review. I feel like I did pretty well, but I've been having a lot of games lately where things start out great and then the enemy team ends up pulling out the win at the last minute. I feel like I played my ass off in this game but was I looking for insight into my general play style and things I could improve.

The replay code is KQWB7V.

Thanks in advance!

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u/thefuturearchaic — 1 day ago

Noob player here

I have put in 50 hours or so, but i do not seem to understand the game(bronze). No matter what character i play i cannot seem to understand what impact am i having or what should i do.

Coming from a valorant background, it seems pretty confusing because there are very fundamental things like micro-adjustments/ movement(counter-strafing/crouch tapping) to improve upon in low ranks. This game works very differently, it's like I cannot plan anything or have the time to think about something, everything happens so fast like i do not understand what options do i even have at the moment let alone pick one of them, whereas i can understand map control and how to move around the map in valorant.

Every characcter is it's own thing and even then if i pick a character that i like i do not understand what i am doing or what i am supposed to do, guides on youtube do not seem to be helping at all

Each time things seem to boil down to just hitting ur shots, but every character has a different shooting style

My understanding has revealed that the u need very spontaneous game sense for this game, where u have to understand every character, every ability ur team or ur enemy has in order to counter it which to me just seems something unlike a game and more like data collecting center or table filling kinda thing

in order to be good at one thing I have to know everything which makes no sense

I CANNOT SEEM TO FIND ANY THING FUNDAMENTALLY COMMON I CAN LEARN WHICH I CAN IMPROVE UPON, LIKE EVERY AGENT, EVERY MAP, EVERY ABILITY, ULT IS JUST IT'S OWN THING

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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u/k1llua24 — 1 day ago

Rewatching my own games really makes me realize why people say stats aren't everything

Just sharing this as while I know it's said to death, rewatching your own gameplay really can help you recognize all of the areas you're struggling in. Just because the stat board seems like you've done decently or even extremely well doesn't actually mean much.

I did a few games with my friends last night on tracer. I have very bad tracking aim on controller (and just generally mediocre aim on controller) so tracer is a big challenge for me, but I love the character and want to force myself to improve.. I'm in silver on my DPS and I thought the games went quite well, as I generally had a high amount of kills and decent damage, matching with my friends (DPS and tank).

Then I decided to rewatch the vods. Oh my god I was doing nothing half of the game, or at least when I was doing something it didn't amount to much at all. At multiple points my awareness of the map and my surroundings cost me kills and survivability that, while we still did win, might've allowed us to win against a slightly better team. Ignoring how abysmal my aim was sometimes, I really need to improve my game sense as well. At multiple points my team were in a big team fight and it was practically a 4v5 as I was just off not doing much, usually healing or trying to regain cooldowns. As well, I died most on the team in one of the games so I was just also gone for several team fights).

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u/Flaky_Cloud3129 — 1 day ago

diamond PlayStation player cant get out of bronze in mouse and keyboard

hello all i I play console and usually low aim assist. (set at 15) my girlfriend is on mouse and keyboard and is bronze. so I started playing with her doing mouse and keyboard pool. I've been playing a long time I know a lot of characters I know positioning. I've been trying DPS. in my pool on Playstation I am diamond. I'm a decent shot. I play Hanzo genji junkrat really anyone that the comp needs. torbjorn just about anyone. but for the life of me I cannot help pull us out of bronze on DPS. hit scan I assumed I would be outmatched for the most part I can keep up but I can't carry. now if I go junkrat or torbjorn or something like that I can win most of our games but I hate playing these characters. but the controller just doesn't seem to keep up. I feel like I'm driving a boat and other people are able to instantly zoom over to my head and blast me in the face. now a lot of this could be fixed with positioning and I have done. but tanks are exceptionally bad in bronze and I always end up having to push because the Reinhardt has flown halfway across the map and has now died. are there any tips or specific characters that could help me do this? am I doomed to go pick up tank because that seems to be the biggest impact and generally they are really bad? like I could take out the whole team with two or three times but there's always going to be one or two times that someone's not pushing or somebody catches me from behind and the whole team collapses. my partner is actually a great healer she does amazing but tanks seem to really make or break this game. thanks for your time.

for clarity's sake I'm using controller

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u/JosephJoestaarrr — 1 day ago

Hardstuck and feeling like dead weight to my teammates. Need advice

Idk I’m just awful at this game... My game sense is terrible and my aim is even worse. I was just playing with my friend and I’m straight up dead weight. I’ve been hard stuck in pplat for ages and it feels like I don’t even belong in this rank anymore should be lower idk

Playing just feels awful right now but the worst part is definitely my aim. My friend died because of me earlier I could have landed shots on either him or the enemy to save him, but I somehow managed to miss both. I can’t hit people at long range and when they're close it honestly feels like they're miles away lol. Just terrible. My accuracy is nonexistent there's zero precision.

On top of that sometimes when I’m aiming my arm gets all twisted and I feel completely stuck. I’ve tried using aim trainers but I don’t know if it’s actually doing anything for me so I stop using. Whenever I'm tracking in some scenarios my arm gets awkward?? or I just completely run out of mousepad. I don’t even know how to explain it like when I try to turn I just feel trapped. I can't really explain it well. I don't get how everyone at this rank can aim so well while I'm just complete trash. I manage to whiff the easiest shots imaginable. I don't even know if I need to raise or lower my sensitivity at this point right now I’m playing on 5.50 at 800 DPI.

I just want to improve haha. Can anyone give me some tips on how to improve both my aim and game sense? I genuinely want to learn and get better.

uhh we actually ended up winning that match I mentioned, but I don't feel like I deserved it at all. I could have played so much better and there are so many games that would've gone differently if my aim wasn't so trash.

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u/ExtensionCheck9716 — 1 day ago

Every game is a huge team diff.

Almost every game I play in comp (diamond 5-4), is just a ginormous team diff. As in, me and my team have zero chance of ever even touching objective/the enemy team.

Almost every game, my dps cannot crack 3-4 kills, my tank cannot live longer than a few seconds, and my other support is almost always a healbotting kiri or mercy.

I am by no means good, but I am very sick of how powerless I am in these lobbies. I also face an abnormal amount of smurfs (who brag openly, and are almost all genji's or widows who are unbeatable).

I also get an insane amount of new players on my team constantly. So new, they actually ask in chat or vc, what characters do or what basic mechanics mean (like anti).

What is up with the matchmaker? I only experience this in support queue. In tank or dps queue, my matches are fairly even usually. I play almost only support, and I meain wuyang, zen, and cat.

I know people frown on it, but I am starting to believe losers queue is real, bc these matches are impossible to win. The games always end with the enemy team being hyper capable, hyper vigilant, hyper mechanically gifted, hyper coordinated, and so on.

Also I ONLY face the best dooms, balls, genjis, anrans, etc any other oppressive dive character. Like, their accounts are either brand new, ot they have thousands of hours ONLY in comp.

I do not know what to do. I try my hardest, but my team almost always gives up about a quarter into the match and we always have a leaver.

Edit: This is over the course of two months, and I play about ten matches between two days regularly. I have a winrate of about 30%. I have NEVER struggled this hard in my life before on this game. I have also always been diamond since ow2 came out.

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u/Nelmo_Pip — 2 days ago

Hardstuck Gold tank and diamond support player plays average in Grandmaster 2 lobbies

So it is really elo problem on my main or im just delusional? A gold tank diamond support definitely cant play average in gm2 lobby.

Support ganeplay: https://youtu.be/a\_GQdJOEBdg?si=LIkSE3i3d2W0mbIW

Tank gamrplay: K07P0J (Video upload tomorriw)

Proof: https://imgur.com/gallery/AxwBfhU

I am definitely playing not as good as gm2, but i think I am definitely way better than gold tank or diamond support, yet i played 400 games on my main still hardstuck, what can I do?

u/Electrified1337 — 1 day ago

Can someone explain MMR

On DPS I have played a lot of matches solo queue and go back and forth between bronze 3 and 2 with abt a 48% W/L. For support i am silver 3 and have played a good amount less. Why do my bronze games get 9% per win while my support gets over 20%? I also find that the silver lobbies are way easier when im on support

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u/Spiritual_Dot3250 — 1 day ago