r/PakiExMuslims

Everyone is aware that Muhammad had married 11 times but he also might have had 2 slave girls/concubines. I didn't know this till today.

1. Maria al-Qibtiyya

She was given to him as a gift by a Christian emperor along with her sister Sirin. He gifted the sister to someone else and took Maria for himself. She bore him a son (Ibrahim) who died in infancy.

2. Rayhana bint Zayd

She was a Jewish woman from Banu Qurayza. She came to his possession after the siege of Banu Qurayza and became his slave and converted to Islam.

It's sometimes disputed whether they were slaves or wives but there is evidence for them being slaves.

I just found this out so thought that I should share.

Now that you look at the world through a secular/humanist lens rather than a religious one, where do you stand on both traditional sex work and the new digital creator economy (Onlyfans)?

When u scroll on this subreddit, I only see atheists, so I wanted to know if your all atheists or if some of you still believe in god or not

This is my first time here I’ve been ex Muslim for more than a year firstly I was a very strong atheist but slowly I became agnostic but now idk why I’m fearing what if I’m wrong and what if I’m deluded , how can I really know things even tho I’ve good arguments against the religion I’m closeted and never told anyone so what if I’m just validating myself and the existing conclusions , and also there isn’t much textual criticism here it’s more social criticism ,idk why this is happening, have any of you experienced this and what to do ?

Ok so while i am an ex-muslim and i feel more freedom ever since but there is uncertainty within me. Growing up in a muslim environment, i think that religions in general are a very unpleasent and uncomfortable experiences for children, especially who are more sensitive.
When i was 12-13 years old, i would imagine myself waking up in the grave i.e i would imagine that i died but then when i am put inside the grave i'll wake up. I had heard that in islam when a person dies they get to wake up in the grave for questioning and i'd imagine it, being confined in a grave, darkness everywhere and i'd fear it and i'd live in a state of constant fear and i'd actually be confused about why didnt people care about it, they seem to live their life normally. Not only that, there is also HELL and tbh, even tho i know for sure that i dont think that a god may exist but imagining the possibility then i get super frustrated by god because okay if you exist then why tf did you hide the evidence? like why tf isnt it clear as daylight as the quran claimed. Honestly, i am so frustrated but at the same time scared of the possibility that islam might be true. i dont think it is but yeah and thats been going through my mind lately. People can also be co certain in their claims that religion is true and most of them dont even care, most of them just ignore it and go on with their lives but for me or ppl who basically give it attention that what if religion is true or false, it opens up a whole new rabbit hole of endless discussions and for me endless anxiety about what ifs, i try to reassure myself that it isnt but the fear of hell is still there. so i was wondering if anyone related to it and if so, how do they cope?

last year: i wasn't looking for anything in particular and had decided to be single until i got the clarity to be able to handle any kind of relationship. so, one day, i randomly come across a guy from the same field of study as mine, extremely intelligent, charismatic, quick-witted, well-read, claimed-to-be-an-atheist-hafiz-e-quran-pretended-to-be-muslim-in-front-of-his-parents-and-society-in-general (and fitting in surprisingly well, as well as you could only expect from a sociopath) in short, everything i could've looked for if i were looking for anything. ive always had a thing for ppl who have something wrong with them. but that was the surface appearance.

though i had said no multiple times, to him and to myself, i ended up being in a relationship with him. and only then i noticed, some things about him were straight-out "disturbing facts". hypocrisy disguised as intelligence, misogyny (subtle but deep rooted), perversion disguised as rebellion (ik, lol), he was able to tell lies with a straight face to anyone. at surface appearance it all looked cool.

but only when i got to know him properly, name a vice and he'd have it. i got uncomfortable with his opinions and actions at times but the high was too high i just forgot who i was anymore.

so the guy had no values. and i don't think morality is religious. though ive read and admired nietzsche and i believed in beyond good and evil in all circumstances, but there has to be something of morality/rules/values, even just a tinge, in a person regardless of being religious or nor, right?

but he wasn't just an atheist, he thought it gave him free pass to being immoral. so he was out there doing what he could. corruption, blackmail, plotting, lying, dishonesty, disloyalty. in short, everything that served his purpose. i might even assume he was responsible for someone's d3ath out of mere spite (life in someone's hands kinda matter, not theoretically, literally).

so eventually we broke up cause i could just not give in to immorality or even bear to be with someone like that. but ive been thinking, what kind of a mindset would that guy have had. and does giving up on religion really affect you on such a deep level that you lose the sense of morals? cause i didn't. and i don't think i ever would.

sorry for the long post but i had to get it out.

So I turned agnostic 1.5 years ago. I used to be a devout Muslim... I used to pray regularly and learn as much as I could about my religion but I ever since became an agnostic, I can't do it anymore... It feels fake and hypocritical to pray so I don't do it now ... May father have said this countless "acha bhala namaz prhte the Kya ho gya tujhe" now I will never tell him that I have become agnostic because it would break him as he is very religious. He very regular at praying and reciting Quran, probably the most religious in our family.

So , I have decided that I will never tell him. But I just can't pray happily as it feels like hypocrisy that there's something else in my but I have to pray for showing off.

When I'm praying, I just babble a lot of stuff and get it over with but while I'm there on the prayer mat all types of thoughs come in my mind like "life is so meaning. There is no meaning. No purpose."

I got kicked out penniless just because i didn't believe what they said about Islam. N im not here to bash any religion but it just felt like fairytales. N i was honest i was truthful. If they couldn't handle that. I'd rather sleep on a sidewalk free rather than chained in a lie. I know I can stand on my two feet again.

Lately I have been fantasizing a lot about that woman that I have been waiting for my whole life. Where r u dammit? I am in my 30s and we are missing out on so much. Just a rant..

I dont see any way of leaving the country and living a prosperous life abroad.

I have been in relationships. I am not super attractive, even though there is a girl who is in love with me, knows im exmuslim, doesnt know much about Islam other than namaz, and wants to marry me despite me saying I cant.

But there's always a feeling of 'I could do better' so I never lead anyone on. Do better in a sense that if I were healed from my traumas, I could be able to love and receive love better.

I dont call myself feminist, so I dont seek exmuslim women to date because they tend to be radical feminists. BPD and radical feminism are perhaps the only red flags for me other than unacceptance of apostasy which is by default a red flag for all of us. People should not pretend to be feminists, at least in private, just to be accepted by the other, so yeah exmuslim women have been out of the equation.

I think I might remain single till I'm quite old

The main issue is that all these years of suppression has made me emotionally numb, so the thought that I might be attracted to someone else when I'm healed and fully get to know myself.

Anyone trying to come to terms that they might not get married? And if they are marrying as a compromise, I'd like to know why are you doing this?