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AI rendering of Kathy Dice (left) Tom Wahl (right) with 'Special'.
Special's fruits are actually about 1000grams avg.
The size of the Record holding Potomac, as an avg fruit size, every fruit.
Fruits 6 times the size of these fruits! per Timothy Lane.
They have color break, are firm, 28 Brix & it's heavy yield, so pruning compact is important.
Tom & Kathy are from a real photo.
the branch & fruit AI rendered.
cultivar available from Canopy!
It's the most promising cultivar in PawPaw history.
When a real pic is available, there will be a new post.
https://www.canopynursery.com/

In very limited supply.
On consignment with KSU, form divine sources.
Be sure & attend:
KSU's landmark Fifth International Pawpaw Conference,
on September 9–11, 2025, in Frankfort, Kentucky.
The future is looking bright.
AI HUMOR

I was using AI to search Newspaper & Magazine archive photos for Uncle Tom Seedlings & Grafted trees.
This is a 1885 greenhouse of Henry Kraemer.
James Alexander Little at age 15, so not Uncle Tom.
AI embellishment, usual when details are lacking.
The pawpaw seedlings of Henry Kraemer,
who was a prominent American Botanist & Pharmacognosist expert.
Pharmacognosists are experts in medicinal plants..
Henry Kraemer is the Owner of the greenhouse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kraemer
Doing research on dilute Sulfuric acid to control Phyllosticta
Not likely Uncle Tom as AI claimed.
PawPaw Seed Extract was common at the time.
your thoughts?

I recently planted this pawpaw from rain tree nursery a month ago or so. Some leaves are torn from shipping, but I can’t decide if it’s getting too much sun. It’s partially under some large trees, but it doesn’t have a shade cloth over its deer cage. Is this healthy looking, or should I make some adjustments?

This is the only tree I have that has set fruit and it has retained about a douzin.

*** Important Detail***
"What I saw on the Santa Fe Trail",
Is a narration style memoir of James Alexander Little Sr,
By James Alexander Little Jr.
Because both names were "James Alexander Little" no "Jr or Sr"
or written as "James A. Little",
Many historians got them conflated & created new pseudo factual embellished documented lore posing as history.
There was many other James Alexander Little" in Cartersburg, at the same time.
The Wrong James Alexander Little of Cartersburg, Indiana list:
(7 November 1831–10 September 1906).
(7 November 1833–10 September 1908)
(15 November 1833–10 September 1908)
(7 November 1833–10 September 1906)
(c.1832–1910s)
(c.1832–1908)
Plus many additional ones with different months for birth & death.
it's multiple James Alexander Little, with multiple mistakes on each.

*** The Real James Alexander Little Jr, Asimina triloba hunter & horticulturalist.***
James Alexander Little Jr was born in 1870, 
43 miles from Santa Fe National Historic Trail Marker 1913.
And 46 miles from the Mormon Lore Eden with infamous trees,
where a different James A. Little nephew of Brigham Young,
loved the delicious PawPaw from Uncle Thomas Marsh's property, 
30 acres along Blue River, via Mormon revelation & Bishop Edward Partridge as stewardship inheritance in Zion, the (New Eden). 
Young's nephew is the wrong James A Little.
James Jr's father was born in Cartersburg, not James Jr.
When his dad, age 34, died, James was only 4 years old.
His mom (Corrilla Lilly Little) took Jame Jr back to Cartersburg.
(William Little & Sarah C. Downard ) are James Jr's Paternal Grandparents.
Not his parents as so many authoritative histories have falsely claimed for over a hundred years.
There were 2 additional (James Alexander Little) in Cartersburg, at the exact same time.
And history has conflated them into an enigmatic Chimera!
James Alexander Little Jr  (31 Dec 1870--27 Mar 1938),
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10761550/james_alexander-little
**James Alexander Little Sr (**Person is the Santa Fe Trail memoir) written by his son.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22190736/james_alexander-little
James Jr's Mom Corrilla: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/22190780/corrilla-little
Corrilla's brother is Eli Lilly: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/1903/eli-lilly
James Jr's cousin who he collaborates with on pawpaw, Josiah Kirby Lilly Sr. son of Colonel Eli Lilly.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/27387804/josiah_kirby-lilly
Age 12: James Jr starts his Native American (PawPaw & Persimmon) cultivar hunting & seed planting.
Age 14: James Jr sub-contracted with "O. W. Stoughton" in the "1884 Tug-Fastener" (Patent No. 307,125) which is a historic equestrian hitch mechanism used in horse-drawn carriages and plows. It was designed to securely lock a horse’s trace (tug) to a whiffletree, improving safety by keeping the traces attached during a pull but easily unhooking when unhitching.
Age 15: Increased his Native American (PawPaw & Persimmon) cultivar hunting & seed planting.
Age 18: James's cousin Josiah K. Lilly Sr. son of Eli Lilly started selling "Asimina triloba Seed Extract" immediately after Eli Lilly dies in 1898.
Age 19: James designs, makes an innovative spade shovel, (U.S. Patent No. 400,923), highly sought-after structurally enhanced design, which increased the tool's strength, durability, functionality for agricultural & industrial use.
Age 20: 'Uncle Tom' is named. And James starts contacting professionals to facilitate exchange of genetic material like Uncle Tom & other premium seeds & scions..
Age 21: James researches chemicals, fertilizers & plant nutrients. 
Age 22: He starts experimenting with Gypsum, Lime Sulfur & unfortunately Lead Arsenate (PbHAsO₄) which is a highly toxic. 
Age 23: James is proactively using Gypsum for fertilizer which is awesome & Lead Arsenate as insecticide & fungicide, then eating the sweet poison. 
Age 25: Transferred 35 trees to Judge Hadley of Danville, Indiana in October 1895, as a regularly spaced premium pawpaw orchard.
Transitions to a (Pawpaw & Persimmon) horticulturist & breeder, Cartersburg, Indiana
Continues planting premium seeds from the wild, others & from his own trees.
Grafts superior scions to the none superior seedlings.
Nov 27th Jame's son Elwood is born. 
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/45961218/elwood_stephenson-little
Age 27: Focuses on the persimmons after doing a 2nd large pawpaw orchard.
Age 30: James's daughter Esther is born.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/129337979/esther_lilly-devers
James contacts Benjamin Buckman for exchange of ideas & Uncle Tom genetics. James wants to improve rootsocks & Tom root sucker cloning. Benjamin Buckman Estate was found by AI using the legal land description on Benjamin Buckman property deed. Zillow lot size claim, plus documented road frontage equals the size claimed in historical records cited by KSU. Please respect the current owners rights, don't trespass! Original fruit trees are not going to be alive after more than 130 years.
Age 31: James's son Philip is born.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/45961253/philip_sheridan-little
Age 34: James writes "What I saw on the Santa Fe Trail."
This is a narration style biography about James Alexander Little Sr,
By James Alexander Little Jr
James Alexander Little Jr was born in 1870, 
43 miles from Santa Fe National Historic Trail Marker 1913.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10761550/james_alexander-little
Age 35: James's daughter Alice is born in winter. James has to spend more time inside & writes another book.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/88609377/alice_downard-west
Age 35: "The Pawpaw (Asimina Triloba): A Native Fruit of Great Excellence".
Age 35: 1905 "A Treatise on the Pawpaw"
Age 36: James contacts W.B. Sims Greenhouse & Nursery, Meridian Street, Newberg, Oregon.
(45°18'21.3"N 122°58'17.3"W)
W.B Sims planted 5K pawpaw seeds, 4K from James & 1K from someone else & got 2K seedling.
41 years late wild are found less than 3 miles from where Uncle Tom seedling breeding was being done.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pawpaws/comments/1uhbtem/2_uncle_tom_seedlings_believed_found_18_diameter/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Pawpaws/comments/1ukwat2/ford_amend_found_in_the_wild_outside_of_portland/
Age 36: James's daughter Evelyn is born.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74841007/evelyn_m-pyle
Age 37: James Alexander Little Jr & W.B Sims jointly contact Pomologist Walter Raymond Ballard, Maryland Agricultural Experiment Station.
They are wanting to facilitate grants for pawpaw nursery greenhouses in many states.
W.B Sims already has the land & greenhouses, but they are full of other rare plants. 
Sims wants funding for specialized pawpaw greenhouses! 
Neal Peterson says that if they get time, Rod might be able to help us find out what went on between (Sims/Little/USDA) thing.
Rodney Dever is currently helping PawPawMaster Neal finishing 3 academic scientific papers, the PPF 5-5 which is becoming a named cultivar, plus Peterson's F3 interspecific pawpaw getting name recording as Kanawha.
Rodney Dever has been one of the most important individuals in pawpaw history!
Age 38: James Alexander Little Jr attempts to get (Bacteriologist & Malariologist) Marshall Albert Barber of Kansas State University, to do research on PawPaw Seed Extract as infection treatment. This is of great interest to James's cousin Josiah K. Lilly Sr, owner of Eli Lilly & Company. 
James contacts Professor Paul Brockett "Smithsonian US Bureau of Plant Industry Records Unit 45" about documenting his work with pawpaw & persimmon.
Age 39: James's son Elmer was born on 26 Feb 1909 in Cartersburg, Indiana, 3 years after James is claimed
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/99778012/elmer_francis-little
James is (DIED) in other historical accounts, but it's a different James Alexander Little.
Age 40: James's health is declining, plus his wife is pregnant, 
so move wife & family close to his wife's parents in Indianapolis June 1910. 
James's son Gustavus was born Sept 19th, 1910, Indianapolis near the historic home of Colonel Eli Lilly. 
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/129160453/gustavus_robin-little
Age 45:  James Alexander Little Jr gets photographed.
He looks to be old, however had been consuming fruit treated with Lead Arsenate for 23 years.
Documented in advice "The Pawpaw (Asimina Triloba): A Native Fruit of Great Excellence".
James gets his 'Early Bearing' & 'Ruby' Persimmons named.
Age 46: James glued his 03/09/1915 photograph of himself into "The Pawpaw (Asimina Triloba): A Native Fruit of Great Excellence" and signed the book. 
James mails the book, with Uncle Tom, to the Pawpaw contest for Ernest Henry Wilson. 
https://arboretum.harvard.edu/research/library/visual-archives/ernest-henry-wilson-and-the-trees-of-new-england/
James didn't win the contest, nor did he & Sims get grant money, 
nor did they successfully talk (Bacteriologist & Malariologist) Marshall Albert Barber into researching pawpaw seed extract on disease.
Josiah K. Lilly Sr  starts company transition away from plant based to modern scientific chemicals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_K._Lilly_Sr.
Age 53: James's cousin Josiah K. Lilly Sr, discontinues Asimina Seed Extract as a product.
James focuses deeply on his family until dies at age 67. 
All of James & Corrilla kids stay in Indianapolis near their mother's Siblings & their descendants, until their death.
James simply moved to a different city & stopped being a Horticulturalist.
He didn't die in 1906 nor 1908 as claimed.
This was & is the (REAL)
James Alexander Little Jr  (31 Dec 1870--27 Mar 1938)

**** THIS IS A LIVING POST THAT WILL BE CONSTANTLY UPDATED***

First picture is the most important, others are just different angles of the tree. I have three branches extending up at from the main trunk, all are about the same hight. Will this limit growth? Do one or more need to go this fall (or sooner?).

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Seems like this may be the only place in the world I can have multiple varieties from Annona in the ground - those final few pictures are sugar apples, Annona Squamosa!

Hello i made a previous post (https://www.reddit.com/r/Pawpaws/s/10MLSxTIrZ) about my cousins trees, and I am here now and was able to get photos of the trees so I figured id ask for help again, especially because some of the leaves seem to be experiencing a new problem. The first photo is of the leaf damage caused by something, maybe slugs not sure, the second photo is of what has been happening, which has been slowly increasing on one tree and it looks like it might be starting on the other two, the trees are located in santa rosa california if that helps, one tree is surrounded by roses, one has a nectarine tree on the side And another is surrounded by borage, if that matters at all, what do you think i can I do to help the trees.

I don't eat them but I do hunt them and grow them lol maybe this year I will try one. Idk. I'm not a fan of mushy textures.

We thought this was dead after getting munched on from deer and rabbits. It has recently shot up two branches this year. Should we trim one of these off to allow a single trunk to grow?

Zone 6.

In ground for 4 years, flowering but not setting fruit. I think the heat in 8a is too much for open ground unless they’re watered more regularly than I have been. RiP Pennsylvania Golden 😔

Yes, I know the base needed weeding. It’s tough battling Bermuda and crab grass on the edge of my yard.

Hi, I've planted pawpaw in my garden last year, it survived winter without any issue but recently its’ leaves started to dry at the ends and curl (around 2 months ago) and then dry completly and fall, I don't see any obvious signs of pests or fungus. I also have second smaller pawpaw which I planted 2 years ago (seen on the last picture) which grows \~1,5 m from one in question (so it gets the same amount of water and sunlight) which is completly healthy. Do you have any idea what may be going on? Thank you im advance:)

Location: central poland, 6b hardiness zone

Photos: 1–4 = current state, 5–6 state month ago, 7 = another pawpaw I've mentioned

My other 7 trees look great this one does not my guess is maybe the random crabgrass is starving it, it's been watered during the summer but it could also be it's just not happy in that spot

I'm in East Houston, black clay soil.

Fruit is medium-large, richly delicious with caramel flesh. Grown in south-central Pa.