r/PerfumeryFormulas

Hey everyone, I buy pre-formulated perfume oils for Santal 33 and Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille dupes—they get about 80% scent accuracy, but the projection and longevity fall short. I want to reinforce them using single aromachemicals, but I have no experience working with individual molecules. My local supplier currently stocks materials like Iso E Super, Hedione, Cedramber, Cashmeran, Ambroxan, Galaxolide, Habanolide, Etil Vainillina, Cumarina, Eugenol, Resina Benjuí, and Ionona Beta. From this list, which specific materials and dosage percentages would you recommend adding to each concentrate to boost performance like duration and projection without ruining or changing the original scent profiles to much?

Hello! I am about to start making some oils into sprayable perfumes.

From my research a good mix is 25%-35% oil and the rest Perfumers Alcohol?

I just learned as well that |SO E Super helps with longevity?

Also Polysorbate 20 to help alcohol not separate??

Am I understanding this correctly?

Now I am most confused on how much E Super and Polysorbate to use lets say on a 15ML bottle?

I saw somewhere that adding 15% E supper works? so do I do that and add a few drops of Polysorbate?

I also found access to diluted AMbroxan. is it better to just stick with perfumers alcohol and add just a few drops of AMbroxan instead??

Would really appreciate anyone that can help educate me. Thank you!

Edit: since everyone’s telling me the same thing I want to be clear I’m NOT trying to create the perfume myself! I’m trying to collaborate with an experienced perfumer or someone who can help create the formula that I’ve envisioned.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but it’s worth a shot.
I’ve envisioned a perfume brand and the type of perfume I aspire to create. The only and the biggest hurdle is finding someone who can create this formula and I’m not sure where or how to start. I have 0 background in perfumery … I’m based in the U.S. but this business would have to be carried out in South Asia. If anyone who has done any kind of course in perfumery or is in the business can even educate me a little about how it all works, I’d really appreciate it. Or please point me towards the right direction. Thanks in advance !

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Hey everyone,

So I have a question related to the scent of penises. Not like a smelly, bad scent but like the more pleasant one I vaguely remember in my experiences with it.

Its this sort of musky scent thats a bit hot and im asking this in relation to something person. Here it is:

Im a transman. I was planning to get bottom surgery, and tldr. Im not healthy enough for it. When youre on testosterone, it changes the scent of your hormones and body. I smell more masculine. And it creates a mass of erectile tissue in the hooha of afab people. Bottom surgery can take skin from another area of your body, as well as nerves, and elongate it. Hence it will create a new formation of the genital thats like a penis. Which would come with many things.

I was exploring options, and think I could try strap ons. Since i wont be able to get the surgery. There are many gaps i can fill. I can get a realistic one, it can become erect, and it can be heated. However, it will be missing some of the smells that would come from that area. And just smell like the material its made of. Any suggestions?

I got into perfumery a while back. My thinking was: how hard can it be? I just mix things that smell good, so there's no way the result smells bad. Couldn't have been more wrong.

I ordered around 100 raw materials and figured that was it. A couple of weeks of trial and error and I'd have something at the level of my favorite, d'Ombre Leather.

I got overwhelmed fast. The materials smelled nothing like the descriptions on the supplier sites. Musks all kind of smell the same. Does hedione even have a smell? 2-methyl pyrazine smells straight-up awful.

So, like every newbie, I turned to ChatGPT. The AI must know how to make a decent perfume, right? Wrong again. Overdose after overdose, getting more and more desperate. I'd spent 600 euros on materials I had no clue how to use.

Being an engineer, I figured there had to be a more analytical way to crack this. Turns out there's real physical stuff sitting under the art: vapor pressure, logP, typical usage ranges, odor impact, how much of a material actually survives dilution versus how much you dosed it at. Once I started thinking about a formula as perceived weight instead of raw percentages on a page, "why does this smell off?" stopped being a mystery and became something I could check before I ever smelled it.

That rabbit hole got deep enough that I ended up building a little tool for myself to track all of it: material data, dilution math, substitutions, that kind of thing. It's turned into a proper side project (AccordLab, if anyone's curious)

Still very much learning, but treating it like a system instead of a mood has made the biggest difference by far.

So how did other self-taught people here get past this stage? Trial and error until it clicked, or did anyone else end up building their own way of tracking all this?

Hi all,

In an effort to do something for my elderly mother, I am trying to create a perfume for her that would bring back her childhood memories of growing up on a coffee farm in the Caribbean.

The current vibe is big open air, with fresh mountain streams, tropical Mango, Tangerine, orange, fresh greens and other mountain vibes.

To tie everything together I have been trying to identify how to bring in the Coffee flower aroma. This unicorn is only available for a 24-48hrs of a given year and thus seems to be unavailable as an ingredient. It is a mesmerizing scent with hints of jasmine, orange blossom, gardenia, honey, vanilla and a faint hint of something almost citrusy. Oddly enough the coffee scent itself is so faint it is a trace in the background rather than what you would expect.

I've tried to recreate it but have failed horribly and the attempted formulas are not even worth sharing. Pretty much in all of them the coffee overpowered everything else and ruined all the accord batches.

In a desperate hunt I came across a Night Queen FO that is similar but did not match the scent as it seemed a bit strong as opposed to the almost ethereal scent of the coffee flower.

Has anyone ever attempted something like this or come across a workable available formula?

Hello guys, I wanted to share the first formula I discovered which smells just amazing. It's quite a while that I wrote it down and I have refined it since then, but I don't have the exact ratios for the refined version, so I invite you to experiment with it by yourself..

Vetiveryl Acetat 4.1g 100% Clearwood® 2.9g 100% Cedarwood EO 1.1g 100% Beta Pinene 2g 100% Fir Balsam 2.25g 100% Veramoss 0.9g 100% Timbersilk 3.9g 100% Iso E Super 2g 100% Ambroxan 3.5g 10% Vertofix Coeur 11g 100% Pino Acetaldehyde 0.5g 100% Sylvamber 4g 100% Terrasol 0.6g 100% Cis-3-hexen-1-ol 0.04g 100% Lavender EO 0.45g 100% Lavender Absolute 1.9g 100% Amarocit 0.8g 100% Orange Flower Absolute 2g 100% Ozofleur 0.02g 100% Geosmin 0.001g 10% Ysamber K 1.1g 100% Ethylene Brassylate 0.2g 100% Habanolide 0.1g 100% Civettone 0.1g 100% Farnesol 0.2g 100% 1-Octen-3-ol 0.1g 5% Koavone 0.1g 5% Vertenex 0.1g 100% Ambercore 0.2g 100% Timbrox Base 0.1g 100% Hedione 0.2g 100% Oud Assafi™ 0.005g 1% Dihydroambrettolide 0.1g 1%

If anyone here is building a fragrance brand and has questions about packaging MOQs, materials, customization, sourcing from India, lead times, etc. Happy to share what I know. Not trying to hard sell here, just glad to help if it's useful, and always open to connecting with folks in the industry.

This is a very simplified formula.

Ethylene brassylate 119g

Galaxolide 50 82g

Ambrettolide 33g

Musceneone 60g

Exaltolide 2.4g

Iso E super 38g

Ambroxan 14.6g

Z11 37g or (Amberketal 8,5%)

Amberwood 0.2g or (Boisambrene Forte)

Hercolyn D 80g

Pyralone 8.2g

Safraleine 0.2g

Dimethyl phenol 2,6- 0.4g

Ambrinol 1g

Vanillin 15g

Maltol 1.6g

Pink pepper 0.2g

Alpha ionone 2.8g

Beta ionone 0.4g

Dihydro ionone beta 0.6g

Hedione 75g

Lilyflore 58.6g

Florol 63g

Mayol 23.4g

Benzyl acetate 3.8g

Isoamyl acetate 10% 0.6g

Ethyl acetate 10% 1.8g

Ethyl benzoate 1% 0.6g

Cyclamen aldehyde 2.6g

P-cymene 0.4g

Myrcene 0.2g

Gamma terpinene 0.2g

Linalool 10.6g

Ethyl linalool 17.6g

Linalool oxide 10% 0.4g

Cis-3-hexenol 10% 6g

White thyme 3.8g

Damascenone 10% 8g

Raspberry ketone 17.4g

Sweet orange 0.2g

DPG 123g

BHT 0.2g

A couple weeks of maceration.

Let me know what you think.

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