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Needing to overcome overthinking

Please pray that I'll overcome the habit of overthinking, needing things to be perfect, and my anxiety relating to overthinking.

Please pray that God will show me how to let go and how to beat this for good.

Overthinking is ruining my life. My life can stay the same without overthinking and it will be better.

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u/Eurasian_Guy97 — 20 hours ago

Work-related anxiety & needing to perform well

I tend to have a short memory at times despite NOT having alzheimers or anything like that.

I tend to be underconfident at work as well.

With these things together as well as making blunders in the heat of the moment, I tend to do poorly at work at times.

I worry about my shifts in the hours leading up to work.

I know that I shouldn't be hard on myself, but I know that I can do better.

Could you please pray that God will help me perform consistently well at work from now on so that I don't focus on the things I worry about?

I have asked God to work through me by His Spirit's power. But I feel like I need to ask for extra prayer because the anxiety is worrying me.

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u/Eurasian_Guy97 — 23 hours ago

I am a sinner

I see so many people asking if God will forgive them or still love them after they sin. I to have sinned, and still sin to this day despite my efforts not to. I have struggled with sexual sin in the form of masterbation through lust since I was 14, I am now 38. When I was a teen I did not know it was a sin and thus did it as often as I liked which in turn made it much harder on me in my adult life when I learned it was, via lust.

I'm posting this as a woe is me story but as a testamony for my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I know I sin and I hate that I do. I have cut many things from my life and activly try to avoid things I know would trigger old desires. That being said, I never felt once that God was to far away from me because of this. I know He doesn't want me to sin, and I genuienly do not want to do it. I trust in His power and love to see me through this ordeal and know that His love and reach is never to far for me.

This is not a message to say it's ok to keep sinning, because it's not. It's a message of hope for those who are struggeling with sin.

Let us pray for strength of spirit from God to overcome the urges of the flesh and the desire to do His will over our own.

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u/DirectionLatter2684 — 2 days ago

Well going back to the same Church again. Let's see if everything goes well.

Last post I made was about how my Church made me feel like an outcast. Let's see if the same thing happens again. Hopefully not. Wish me luck.

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u/No-Environment-5099 — 3 days ago

I may stop going to my Church because I get treated like an outcast in the one place I should be accepted.

Anytime I am there i just get stares and odd forms of hostility which seems very strange being it is a place where someone should be welcomed. I am not asking for attention or to be treated like a prince either. People there are just strange sometimes.

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u/No-Environment-5099 — 4 days ago

Christians who are also masons

I am not a member of a Masonic lodge or the like, and nor am I intending to explore doing so, but I have heard different views on whether being a Mason is compatible with being a Christian.

I have been pondering the question because of a particular musician whose work I have always liked, including one particular album dedicated to his Christian faith. I was a little surprised later to hear that he was also a Mason and, as I understand it, he was later subjected to criticism from Christians as well as Masons.

Any views here that members are open to expressing and discussing?

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u/userid42 — 4 days ago
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The Low Place

THE LOW PLACE On Serving God Where No One Is Watching

For the men who hold a pulpit in their chest and a broom in their hands.

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PREFACE

I want to be honest with you before you read a word of this. I wrote it because I needed it. There is a kind of man who carries a burden for souls and yet spends his days in work that no one sees. He empties the trash. He fixes the leak. He pushes the cart down the long hall after the children have gone home. And somewhere under the noise of the floor buffer he wonders if God meant for him to do something larger.

I am that man, or near enough to him that the difference does not matter. So I will not write to you from a height. I will write to you from the same low place where you are standing, and I will tell you what I have found there, which is that the low place is not a waiting room for a better calling. It is the calling. It is the very ground God chose for you to meet Him on.

This is a short and plain word. I have tried to write the way an old Puritan would speak to a friend across a kitchen table, slow and weighty and without ornament. I have leaned on Scripture because Scripture is the only thing that can carry the weight I am asking it to carry. Every verse is from the English Standard Version, quoted exactly, because the word of God deserves to be handled with care.

Read it slowly. Do not rush to the comfort. The comfort is real, but it comes after the searching, and the searching is where God does His best work.

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ONE. THE ACHE YOU CARRY

There is an ache in the man who serves God in a small place. He does not always name it, but he feels it. It rises up on the long afternoons when the work is dull and the building is empty. It rises up when he hears another man preach and thinks, I could carry that word too, if only someone had given me the chance. It rises up when he looks at his hands and sees calluses where he once imagined a Bible would sit.

I know this ache because I have lived inside it. I came to Christ late, after thirty-five years of running, and when the Lord laid hold of me He laid hold of all of me at once. The hunger came on like a flood. I wanted to study, to teach, to pour out what had been poured into me. And then I went to work the next morning and pushed a mop down a middle school hallway, and the distance between the flood inside me and the floor under me felt like a wound.

Maybe you feel it differently. Maybe you stock shelves, or drive a route, or sit in a cubicle entering numbers that no one will ever thank you for. The shape of the work changes from man to man. The ache is the same. It is the sense that there is more in you than your day will hold, and that God has somehow placed you below the level of your own desire.

I want to be careful here, because this ache is not a simple thing. Part of it is holy. The Spirit of God stirs a man to love what is good and to long to spend himself on it, and that longing is not sin. But part of it is not holy at all. Part of it is the old pride that wants to be seen, that measures a life by its platform, that cannot rest in a hidden work because hidden work does not feed the hunger to be known.

The trouble is that these two run together so closely that a man cannot always tell them apart. The same heart that longs to serve Christ also longs to be admired for serving Him, and the second longing dresses itself in the clothes of the first. This is why the ache must be searched before it can be soothed. If you reach for comfort before you reach for honesty, you will only end up flattering the very pride that is making you miserable.

So let us begin there. Not with a promise that God will lift you out of the low place, but with a harder and better question. What if the low place is exactly where He means to do the deepest work He has ever done in you?

Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts! And see if there be any grievous way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting!

Psalm 139:23-24

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TWO. THE ROOT BENEATH THE ACHE

When a man is discontent with his lot, he almost always blames the lot. He thinks the problem is the work, or the wage, or the place. If only the circumstance would change, he tells himself, the discontent would lift. But this is rarely true. A man who is restless in a low place will usually be restless in a high one, because the restlessness was never about the place. It was about the heart that carried him into it.

The Puritans understood this with a clarity we have mostly lost. Thomas Watson wrote a whole treatise on the rare jewel of Christian contentment, and Jeremiah Burroughs another, and both of them said the same thing. Contentment is not a change in your circumstances. It is a change in you. It is learned, not given, and it is learned in the school of the low place, where God strips a man of the props he leaned on and teaches him to lean on Christ alone.

Consider what the apostle Paul says, writing from a prison cell with chains on his wrists.

Not that I am speaking of being in need, for I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. I know how to be brought low, and I know how to abound. In any and every circumstance, I have learned the secret of facing plenty and hunger, abundance and need. I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

Philippians 4:11-13

Notice that he calls it something he learned. He was not born content. He did not become content the moment he was converted. He learned it over years, in hunger and in plenty, in prison and in freedom, and the learning was slow and costly. If the greatest missionary the church has ever known had to be schooled in contentment, you and I should not be surprised that we are still in the lower grades.

The root beneath the ache runs down to this. We believe, somewhere down in the cellar of the heart, that our worth is measured by our station. We think a man who teaches is worth more than a man who sweeps. We think a name that is known is a life that matters, and a name that is hidden is a life half wasted. And as long as we believe that lie, no station will ever satisfy us, because there is always a higher one, and the man on the top step is still looking up.

The gospel takes an axe to that root. It tells you that your worth was never in your station at all. It was bought with blood, fixed in heaven, and sealed by the Spirit before you ever lifted a finger to work. A man whose worth rests in Christ can sweep a floor for the glory of God and lose nothing, because there was never anything to lose. His name is written where moth and rust cannot reach it.

But the heart does not learn this in a day. It must be searched, and the searching hurts, because it uncovers how much of our religion has been about us all along.

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THREE. THE GOD WHO WORKS IN HIDDEN PLACES

If you want to understand the low place, you must understand the God who fills it. And the strange and wonderful truth of Scripture is that our God has always done His greatest work where no one was watching.

Think of where He kept His own Son for thirty years. The Word who made the worlds, the eternal second person of the blessed Trinity, spent the overwhelming weight of His earthly life in a carpenter's shop in a town so small and so despised that men asked whether anything good could come out of it. Thirty years of hidden labor. Thirty years of sawdust and sweat and ordinary obedience. And then three years of public ministry. The proportion alone should silence us. Our Lord spent ten times as long in the hidden place as in the seen one.

Think of Moses, who spent forty years on the back side of a desert keeping another man's sheep before God ever spoke to him from the bush. Think of David, anointed king as a boy and then sent right back to the sheepfold, learning faithfulness in obscurity for years before he ever sat on a throne. Think of the long silent years of preparation that God seems to require before He trusts a man with anything large.

There is a pattern here, and it is not an accident. God hides His servants before He uses them, and very often He keeps on hiding them even while He uses them. The work that matters most to Him is rarely the work that draws a crowd. He is building something in the dark that the light would only spoil.

This is a comfort, but it is a bracing one. It means your hidden years are not wasted years. The God who spent three decades preparing His own Son in obscurity is not careless with your obscurity. He is doing something in you on the long afternoons that He could not do any other way. But it also means you must give up the idea that the hidden place is a delay before the real work begins. For most of God's servants, the hidden place was the real work, and the seen part, when it came at all, was small by comparison.

I take great comfort in this as a man who works with his hands in an empty building. The Lord I serve knows the smell of a workshop. He knows what it is to spend years doing faithful, unremarkable labor that no record was kept of. When I push my cart down the hall, I am not far from Him. I am walking the very road He walked for thirty years.

Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? And are not his sisters here with us? And they took offense at him.

Mark 6:3

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FOUR. ALL WORK AS WORSHIP

We have inherited a quiet heresy in the church, and most of us hold it without ever saying it aloud. It is the belief that there is sacred work and there is secular work, and that the sacred work, the preaching and the missions and the visible ministry, is the real service of God, while the rest is just how we pay the bills until we can get to the real thing.

The Reformers fought hard against this very lie. Before the Reformation, men spoke of the religious life as something only monks and priests could enter, and the farmer and the cobbler were thought to live a lower kind of existence, tolerated by God but not truly dedicated to Him. The recovery of the gospel brought with it the recovery of vocation, the great truth that every honest calling is a station appointed by God, and that a Christian milkmaid milking her cow to the glory of God does a work as truly holy as the preacher in his pulpit.

This was not a clever idea the Reformers invented. They found it in the text. Listen to how the apostle speaks to slaves, the lowest workers in the whole Roman world, men and women whose labor was owned by another and counted for nothing.

Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.

Colossians 3:23-24

Sit with that and let it land. The work you do, the unglamorous repeated work of your ordinary day, is to be done as for the Lord and not for men. And the Lord Himself, not your supervisor and not the people who never thank you, is the one who keeps the account and pays the wage. There is an inheritance attached to the way you mop a floor.

This changes everything about the low place. If your work is worship, then the man scrubbing a toilet for the glory of God is not doing a lesser thing than the man behind a microphone. He is doing the same thing, offering himself to God through the work of his hands, and the God who sees in secret is watching both with equal pleasure. The only question that matters is not how visible the work is, but for whom it is done.

I have learned to preach sermons to no congregation, in empty rooms, with a rag in my hand. I have learned that the floor I clean is an altar if I give it to God. This is not a way of making peace with a disappointing life. It is the truth about all of life, and the man who sees it is set free from the tyranny of being seen.

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FIVE. THE PULPIT YOU ALREADY HAVE

Something I had to learn slowly surprised me when it came. The man who longs to teach and is given no platform usually already stands on the only platform that matters. He simply has not recognized it yet.

You think you have no pulpit because you have no church that has called you to one. But you are watched all day by people who would never sit under a sermon. The man at the next station sees how you carry a bad morning. The student in the hallway sees whether you have a kind word or a cold one. Your wife and your children see, more clearly than anyone on earth, whether the faith you profess on Sunday is the same faith that governs you on Tuesday. There is no preacher alive with a congregation as attentive as the one watching you in your ordinary day, because they are not listening to your words. They are reading your life.

This is the harder pulpit and the truer one. A man can preach a fine sermon and go home and be a tyrant, and the sermon will not save him. But a man who is gentle to a frightened child in an empty hallway, who does his work without complaint, who answers an insult with patience, preaches a sermon with his body that no one can argue with. The apostle Peter said that even wives could win husbands without a word, by conduct alone, and what is true there is true everywhere. The watching world is more moved by a holy life than by a clever argument.

I think often of the people God has set in my path precisely because I am where I am. The student in crisis who would never walk into a church found a believer in the one place she did not expect one, in the custodian who happened to be there. If I had the platform I once wanted, I would not have been in that hallway. The very lowness of the place put me exactly where a soul needed me.

So stop waiting for a pulpit. You have one. It is your life, lived out in front of people who are watching whether you know it or not. Preach with it. Let the word you cannot speak from a stage be spoken in the way you bear your burden, the way you treat the least person in the room, the way you keep your temper when you have every excuse to lose it. That sermon will be heard.

And if God should ever give you the other kind of pulpit, the visible one, you will be ready for it only because you were faithful in this one first. He does not give the platform to the man who despises the floor. He gives it to the man who learned to glorify Him on the floor and would have been content to stay there forever.

Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.

1 Peter 2:12

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SIX. WHEN THE HEART STILL REBELS

I would be lying to you if I ended the matter there, as though seeing the truth were the same as living it. You can know that your work is worship and still resent it on Thursday. You can believe that God hides His servants and still burn with envy when another man is lifted up. The mind can be convinced while the heart goes right on rebelling, and any honest man knows the distance between the two.

So what do we do when the heart still rebels? When the contentment we preach to ourselves will not hold, and the old ache comes roaring back, and we find ourselves angry at God for the smallness of our portion?

First, we confess it plainly. We do not pretend the rebellion is not there. The Psalms are full of men telling God exactly how the discontent feels, holding nothing back, and God did not strike them down for it. He recorded their words in His book. Asaph nearly lost his footing entirely, watching the wicked prosper while he kept his heart clean for nothing, as it seemed to him. He says so without flinching.

And then notice the turn. Asaph does not reason his way out of the bitterness. He goes into the presence of God, into the sanctuary, and there everything looks different. The thing that cured him was not a better argument. It was a clearer sight of God. When he stopped staring at his own portion and started looking at the Lord, the envy died of its own accord, because it could not survive the presence of the One who was his true portion all along.

Whom have I in heaven but you? And there is nothing on earth that I desire besides you. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.

Psalm 73:25-26

This is the pattern for us. When the heart rebels, we do not argue with it in the dark. We carry it into the presence of God. We open the word, we bend the knee, we get ourselves into the place where God is, and we let the sight of Him do what no self talk can do. The discontent is not reasoned away. It is burned away by a better glory.

And the great mercy runs underneath it all. The very fact that you fight this battle is a sign of life. The dead do not war against their own pride. A corpse feels no shame at its discontent. If you grieve over the rebellion in your heart, the grief itself is the Spirit of God within you, refusing to let you rest in what is beneath your calling in Christ. Do not despair over the war. The war is the evidence that you are His.

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SEVEN. THE PORTION THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN

Everything I have said comes down to one word, and that word is portion. Asaph found it. The Levites built their whole lives on it. When the land of Canaan was divided among the tribes, every tribe received a piece of ground except one. The tribe of Levi was given no inheritance, no fields, no territory of its own. Instead the Lord said to them that He Himself would be their portion. They got God instead of ground.

Sit with that for a moment, because it is the whole secret of the low place. The man who has God for his portion has lost the ability to be impoverished. You may take his platform, his recognition, his title, his comfort, every visible good thing, and you will not have touched his true wealth, because his true wealth is the living God, and no man can take that from him. He is rich in the only currency that survives the grave.

This is why a man can be content in a low place. He rests there because he possesses a treasure that the height and the depth of his circumstances cannot reach. The world cannot understand this. The world measures a man by what he has and what he is seen to be. But the man whose portion is God looks at the whole ledger of earthly station and finds that it has become strangely small, because he is holding something next to which a kingdom is a trifle.

Late as I came to Him, He is my portion. That is the thing I cannot get over. A man who wasted thirty-five years, who came stumbling in at the back of the day, was given the same Christ, the same Spirit, the same inheritance as the man who walked with God from his mother's knee. There is no second class in the kingdom. The God who is the portion of the apostle is the portion of the custodian, full and entire, withholding nothing.

So I will tell you what I tell myself on the long afternoons. You have not been given a small life. You have been given God, and a life with God in it is never small, whatever the world makes of the room you stand in. The floor under your feet is holy ground if you are standing on it with Him.

Hold fast to your portion. The low place cannot rob you. It can only press you nearer to the One who has been your treasure all along, and that pressing, painful as it is, is the kindest thing He could do for you. He is not keeping you from a better life. He is keeping you for Himself.

"The LORD is my portion," says my soul, "therefore I will hope in him."

Lamentations 3:24

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BENEDICTION

I have written all this to you, my brothers and sisters, but I have preached it to myself the whole way through, because I need it as much as any man who will ever read it. The low place is not behind me. I will go to work on Monday and push the same cart down the same hall, and the ache will likely rise again on some long afternoon, and I will have to carry my rebel heart back into the presence of God one more time and let the sight of Him do its work.

But I go back to that hall as a man with a portion. I go back knowing that the God who hid His own Son in a workshop for thirty years is not careless with my hidden years. I go back knowing that the floor is an altar and the watching faces a congregation. And the wage for my labor is not a sum I have earned and stored against my own account. It is an inheritance kept for me in Christ, given to a son and not paid to a hired man, secured by His work and not by mine.

There is a day coming when I will stand before the only one whose opinion will matter, and I will not stand there hoping my floors were clean enough. I will stand there clothed in Christ, accepted in Him before a single work of mine is weighed, so that whatever reward His grace is pleased to give will be grace heaped upon grace and no part of it a debt He owed me. The man whose standing rests there can work hard all his days and fear nothing on the last one, because the verdict was settled at the cross long before the labor began.

May the Lord give you the same sight. May He search your heart until the pride is uncovered, steady you in the place where He has set you, and lift your eyes from your portion of ground to your portion in Him. And when He has done that work in you, may He send you to the next man in the next low place with the same word, that he too may learn the secret you have learned.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.

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u/Middle_Efficiency471 — 3 days ago

Assurance of Salvation

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🧭 THEME 🧭

Assurance of Salvation

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📖 VERSE 📖

"I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."

1 John 5:13

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📘 STORY 📘

In the hill country of Judea lived a man named Mattan. He had believed the message of Christ after hearing travelling disciples speak of the resurrection. For many years he walked faithfully, helping the poor, praying with other believers, and sharing what little he possessed with those in need.

Yet as the years passed, hardship settled heavily upon him. A season of poor harvests left his family struggling. Illness visited his household. Friends he once trusted turned away from the faith, while others questioned whether God truly cared for those who followed Him. Their words lodged like thorns within his heart.

Many nights Mattan lay awake listening to the wind pass through the olive trees outside his home. He remembered his failures, his weaknesses, and the many times he had fallen short. Doubt whispered that perhaps he did not belong to God after all. Perhaps his faith had never been enough.

One evening an elder visited the village carrying copies of letters that had been circulating among the assemblies. As the believers gathered by lamplight, the elder read words written by the Apostle John. Mattan listened carefully as assurance poured from every sentence.

When the gathering ended, he walked home beneath a sky filled with stars. His circumstances remained unchanged. The harvest was still poor. The struggles still existed. Yet something within him had become settled. His confidence rested no longer upon his own strength, but upon the faithfulness of God who had promised eternal life to those who believe in His Son.

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📚 STORY LESSONS 📚

Doubt often grows during seasons of hardship. When life becomes difficult, many believers begin examining themselves more closely. Instead of looking toward God's promises, they focus upon their imperfections and shortcomings. Fear begins speaking louder than faith.

Mattan's problem was not a lack of belief in Christ. His problem was that he had begun measuring his standing before God by his circumstances and emotions. Hardship clouded his vision until he could no longer see the certainty of God's promise.

The Apostle John's words direct believers away from uncertainty and back toward assurance. Eternal life is not founded upon the perfection of our performance. It rests upon the reliability of the One who made the promise. The believer's confidence is found in Christ Himself.

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🎵 POEM 🎵

The storm may shake the weary soul,
And darkened clouds may seem to roll.
Yet Christ remains both firm and true,
His faithful hand still carries you.

When doubt arises in the night,
And fear attempts to hide the light.
Remember what the Lord has said,
His promises remain ahead.

The heart may tremble, weak with care,
Yet God is present even there.
His love is not a passing flame,
For yesterday and now the same.

Though trials press on every side,
Within His grace we still abide.
The child of God need not despair,
For everlasting life is there.

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🌿 MEDITATION 🌿

Many believers quietly carry a fear they rarely speak aloud. They wonder whether they truly belong to God. They remember failures they cannot forget, weaknesses they cannot conquer, and moments when their faith felt small. Yet this verse was written precisely for such hearts. John does not say that believers may guess they have eternal life. He says they may know.

Our assurance does not come from flawless obedience, perfect understanding, or unbroken confidence. It comes from Christ. The same Saviour who died for sinners remains faithful toward those who trust Him. When doubt knocks upon the door of your heart, answer it not with your feelings, but with God's promise. If your faith rests in Christ, your hope rests in One who never fails.

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🪞 QUESTIONS FOR THE SPIRIT 🪞

🪞 Am I measuring my relationship with God by His promises or by my emotions?

🪞 Have difficult circumstances caused me to question what God has already declared?

🪞 Do I spend more time focusing on my failures than on Christ's faithfulness?

🪞 What fears continue to challenge my confidence in God's salvation?

🪞 How would my life change if I fully trusted God's promise of eternal life?

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❤️ CHALLENGE YOUR HEART ❤️

Write down one doubt you carry concerning your relationship with God. Then place beside it the promise found in this verse. Whenever that doubt returns, answer it by reading God's promise aloud and reminding yourself that your assurance rests in Christ rather than in your feelings.

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🗝️ KEY NOTES 🗝️

🗝️ Hardship often becomes a breeding ground for doubt.

🗝️ Feelings change, but God's promises remain constant.

🗝️ Assurance is rooted in Christ, not personal perfection.

🗝️ Believers are invited to know they have eternal life.

🗝️ God's faithfulness is stronger than human uncertainty.

🗝️ Confidence grows when we trust His promises above our fears.

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🙏 PRAYER 🙏

Heavenly Father,

Thank You for giving assurance through Your Son. When doubt enters my mind and fear troubles my heart, help me to remember what You have promised. Teach me to trust Your faithfulness more than my feelings and Your truth more than my circumstances.

Strengthen my confidence in Christ. Help me rest in the certainty of Your love and the hope of eternal life. When I am weak, remind me that my salvation is held securely in Your hands and not in my own strength.

Amen.

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💭 Final Thought 💭

Go forward in peace, remembering that the foundation of your salvation is not the strength of your grip upon God, but the strength of His grip upon you. Walk in confidence, for the One who promised eternal life is faithful.

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u/MichaelWhitehead — 4 days ago

When Forgiveness Doesn't Come

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When Forgiveness Doesn't Come

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"As far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone."

Romans 12:18

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📘 STORY 📘

Zechar sat alone beneath an olive tree on the edge of the village. The evening sun painted the hills of Judea with gold, yet there was no peace within him.

Months earlier, harsh words spoken in anger had shattered a friendship that had endured since childhood. In a moment of pride, he had wounded a man who had trusted him like a brother.

When conviction settled upon his heart, Zechar travelled the dusty road to seek reconciliation. He stood before his friend, his eyes lowered and his voice trembling.

He admitted every wrong without excuse and asked for forgiveness. Yet the answer he received was colder than the winter winds that swept down from the mountains.

Days became weeks, and weeks became months. More than once he returned to the door. More than once he sought peace.

Each attempt was met with silence, suspicion, or rejection. The burden of his failure remained, and he wondered whether repentance mattered if forgiveness would never be given.

One evening, an elderly shepherd noticed the sorrow upon Zecha's face. Sitting beside him, he listened quietly.

When the story was finished, the shepherd pointed toward a flock grazing peacefully nearby.

"A shepherd cannot force a wandering sheep to return," he said. "He can call, he can search, and he can open his arms. The rest belongs to the sheep."

Zechar watched the flock in silence. For the first time he understood that repentance and reconciliation were not the same thing.

One belonged to his obedience before God. The other depended upon another heart. As darkness settled over the hills, he finally released what he could not control and entrusted it to the Lord.

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📚 STORY LESSONS 📚

Many people carry wounds caused by their own past mistakes. When God reveals those failures, the natural response is to seek forgiveness from those we have hurt. This is right, noble, and often necessary. Yet the outcome is not always what we hope for.

True repentance is measured by sincerity, humility, and a willingness to make things right. It is not measured by whether another person chooses to forgive. Their decision belongs to them, just as our repentance belongs to us.

One of the hardest spiritual lessons is accepting the limits of our control. We can confess. We can apologise. We can change our behaviour. We can seek peace. Yet we cannot command another person's heart to heal or trust again.

The freedom comes when we place the unresolved situation into God's hands. We remain responsible for our actions, but we are not responsible for controlling another person's response. There is peace in knowing we have done what love required of us.

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🎵 POEM 🎵

I carried my sorrow through valley and glade,
And longed for the friendship my pride betrayed.
The road stretched through dust and pain,
Yet mercy from others did not come again.

I opened my hands where resentment had grown,
And stood before wounds that I could not atone.
The silence around me felt heavy and deep,
Like shadows gatherd when daylight must sleep.

Yet God saw the tears that no neighbour could see, And heard every prayer rising softly from me.
Though doors still closed & old trust stayed apart. His grace still brought healing & rest to my heart.

The burden grew lighter when placed in His care, Some things are mended with patience and prayer. What others withhold cannot hinder God's voice, Peace remains for the soul that trusts & rejoices.

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🌿 MEDITATION 🌿

One of the deepest pains a believer can experience is genuine repentance without reconciliation. We imagine that if we humble ourselves, confess our wrongs, and seek forgiveness, everything will be restored. Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not.

God never asks us to control another person's heart. He asks us to surrender our own. If you have honestly repented, sought peace, and done what love required, then release the outcome into His hands.

The person you hurt may need time, may never forgive, or may carry wounds you cannot heal. Their response belongs to them. Your obedience belongs to God.

Peace begins when we stop carrying responsibilities that were never ours to bear.

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🪞 QUESTIONS FOR THE SPIRIT 🪞

🪞 Have I genuinely accepted responsibility for the wrong I committed?

🪞 Am I seeking forgiveness out of love, or merely to relieve my own guilt?

🪞 Have I done everything reasonably possible to make peace?

🪞 Am I trying to control another person's response instead of surrendering it to God?

🪞 Can I trust God with an unresolved relationship?

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❤️ CHALLENGE YOUR HEART ❤️

Write a sincere letter of forgiveness, apology, or reconciliation to the person who was hurt, even if you never send it.

Speak honestly, take responsibility without excuses, and then burn the letter somewhere private as a symbolic act of releasing the outcome into God's hands.

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🗝️ KEY NOTES 🗝️

🗝️ Repentance and reconciliation are not the same thing.

🗝️ We are responsible for our actions, not another person's response.

🗝️ Genuine apology may not always be accepted.

🗝️ Peace comes from obedience to God, not control of outcomes.

🗝️ God can heal wounds that human relationships cannot fully restore.

🗝️ Unresolved situations can still be surrendered to His care.

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🙏 PRAYER 🙏

Heavenly Father,

I bring before You the pain of broken relationships and the weight of mistakes I cannot undo. You know the regret that lingers in my heart and the desire to make right what was wrong.

Give me humility where humility is needed, honesty where honesty is required, and courage to face the consequences of my actions.

Teach me to accept what I cannot control. If forgiveness is withheld, help me not to become bitter or hopeless.

Let me rest in the knowledge that You see my repentance, know my heart, and understand every circumstance. Help me leave the outcome in Your hands and walk forward in peace.

Thank You for Your mercy, Your patience, and Your unfailing grace.

Amen.

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💭 Final Thought 💭

Go forward with a humble heart. Seek peace where peace can be found, and where it cannot, trust the Lord to carry what your hands were never meant to hold.

🕯️

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u/MichaelWhitehead — 5 days ago
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What Bible verse carried you through your hardest season?

Not necessarily your favorite verse, but the one God used to sustain you when life became difficult. For me, I find myself returning often to Isaiah 41:10:

"Fear not, for I am with you."

There have been seasons where I didn't know what the outcome would be, but that reminder of God's presence brought peace. I'd love to hear yours and why it was meaningful.

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u/This_Web_4172 — 8 days ago

Running To God In Prayer

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🧭 THEME 🧭

Running to God in Prayer

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📖 VERSE 📖

"I called to the Lord in my distress, and He answered me."

Jonah 2:2

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📘 STORY 📘

In the days when Rome ruled Judea, a fisherman named Abner lived near the shores of the Sea of Galilee. He was known for his strength and skill upon the water, yet pride had quietly taken root within his heart.

Though he spoke often of God, his prayers had become few, and his confidence rested more in his own hands than in the Lord.

One evening, dark clouds gathered over the lake. The wind rose swiftly, and the waters churned against his small vessel. Abner fought the storm with all his strength.

He pulled at the oars until his hands bled and shouted against the wind as though determination alone could save him.

As the waves crashed over the sides of the boat, fear gripped him. For the first time in many months, he realised how small he truly was. His strength was failing.

The shore had vanished into darkness. The storm cared nothing for his pride, his experience, or his plans.

With trembling lips he fell to his knees within the vessel and cried out to the Lord. No grand speech escaped his mouth.

No eloquent words were spoken. Only a desperate plea from a frightened man who had finally reached the end of himself.

The storm did not vanish immediately, but peace entered where fear had lived. Abner rowed through the darkness with renewed courage.

When dawn broke and the shoreline appeared before him, he stepped onto dry land understanding something he had forgotten. God had always been near. It was Abner who had wandered.

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📚 STORY LESSONS 📚

Many people pray most earnestly when life becomes difficult. While there is nothing wrong with crying out to God in distress, hardship often reveals a deeper truth. We may discover that we have slowly drifted into self-reliance, trusting our own wisdom, strength, or plans more than the Lord.

Abner's storm did not create his need for God. It revealed it. The danger stripped away the illusion of control and exposed the condition of his heart. Sometimes God uses trials to remind us of truths we already know but have neglected to live.

Jonah experienced something similar. It was from the depths of his distress that he cried out to the Lord. The lesson is not that suffering is good, but that God hears those who call upon Him, even when they have wandered far from Him.

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🎵 POEM 🎵

I fled along my chosen way,
Ignoring what the Lord would say.
Yet when the darkness closed me in,
He heard my cry above the din.

The storm arose upon the sea,
Its mighty waves surrounding me.
My strength was broken by the tide,
Yet God remained there by my side.

No depth can hide a seeking heart,
Nor keep the Lord and soul apart.
His mercy reaches through the night,
And leads the wanderer to light.

The prayer breathed from a weary soul,
Can make the wounded spirit whole.
For those who call upon His name,
Will find His love remains the same.

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🌿 MEDITATION 🌿

One of the greatest deceptions of the human heart is the belief that we can manage life without God. We may still believe in Him. We may still attend church. We may still speak His name.

Yet prayer slowly fades because dependence has faded. Prayer is not merely communication with God; it is an acknowledgement that we need Him.

Jonah did not pray from comfort.

He prayed from the depths. Yet the miracle is not that Jonah reached God. The miracle is that God was already there, listening.

No distance, failure, rebellion, or hardship can place a sincere cry beyond His hearing. The path back to God has always begun with prayer.

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🪞 QUESTIONS FOR THE SPIRIT 🪞

🪞 Have I become more dependent upon myself than upon God?

🪞 Is prayer my first response or my last resort?

🪞 What storm in my life may be revealing a deeper spiritual need?

🪞 Have I drifted from God while still believing I was close to Him?

🪞 What would it look like for me to truly seek God in prayer again?

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❤️ CHALLENGE YOUR HEART ❤️

Find a quiet place and speak honestly with God about the area of life you most often try to carry alone.

Set aside polished words and religious language. Bring Him the truth of your heart and entrust that burden into His hands.

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🗝️ KEY NOTES 🗝️

🗝️ Prayer begins where self-reliance ends.

🗝️ Distress often reveals our true dependence upon God.

🗝️ God hears sincere prayers offered from the depths.

🗝️ Hardship can become a doorway back to God.

🗝️ No one is beyond the reach of God's listening ear.

🗝️ The journey back to God often begins with a simple prayer.

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🙏 PRAYER 🙏

Heavenly Father,

Forgive me for the times I have trusted my own strength more than Your presence. Forgive me for the moments when prayer became an afterthought rather than the foundation of my walk with You. Teach me again what it means to depend upon You.

Help me to seek You not only in moments of crisis, but in every season of life. When storms arise, remind me that You are near. When I wander, draw me back. When I call upon You, strengthen my faith to trust that You hear and answer according to Your perfect wisdom.

Amen.

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💭 Final Thought 💭

When the road grows dark and your strength begins to fail, remember that prayer is not a sign of weakness but a return to the One who has been waiting to hear your voice.

Go forward knowing that no sincere cry to God is ever unheard.

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u/MichaelWhitehead — 5 days ago
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Testimony

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  1. Grew up in and out of Church

I had many family and friends that I did cherish.

  1. Felt the call to preach at 18

To many people felt like they couldn't understand. And when I asked how can they tell me what to do? They've never been in my shoes nor could tell me why.

  1. ran away from the Lord to join the army

I joined Active Duty Army in 2015 as 11x infantryman Recruit, December of 2015 I graduated as 11B infantryman

I have been to Fort Benning, Fort Stewart, Fort Lewis, Fort Drum was the last Active Duty base I was assigned to, Prior to being a U.S. Army Recruiter.

Units I have been assigned to: Echo/ 2-19INF(OSUT) 1-30th IN BN, 2-7 IN BN, 5-20 IN BN, 3-71 CAV, Southern Tier Recruiting Company.

I have been to 13 Countries: Germany, Poland, Japan, Thailand, Philippines, Palau, South Korea. Ireland, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Bulgaria

I have been on one combat deployment: April 2022 to December 2022.

  1. He allowed me to get horrible hurt( spiritually)

Durning this time frame I started swearing, drinking, watching porn, i developed pride( which is evil) among all types of things.

I was married when I was real young 21

\- This woman was very beautiful. And at first kind.

\- That woman hurt me, Hit me, would abuse me

\- She had multiple affairs and would not stop

\- she gave me multiple STDs while married

\-she even slept with my best friend that I served with for 3 years.

\- i was a broken man and my heart became hard.

\- when she finally left me I was so happy.

\- I stay because I thought it was a man was supposed to do. Married for life

\- I did things in secret that nobody knew. I hid alot of shame and sin

Second marriage-

I met a woman who had a daughter. I felt free and fell in love with being a Husband and Father.

\- many magical and wonderful memories.

\- I wanted to move mountains for her.

\- on deployment kept in contact went the extra mile.( I'd call every night not on patrol, I would get 4 hrs of sleep)

\- I did not talk about my abuse to my Second wife.

It was a fairytale marriage.

\- many moments of love and laughter and silliness.

\- after deployment my second wife slowly started doing things differently. Slowly stopped wanting sex, slowly stopped being emotionally open, even hated me.

\- she asked what happened and eventually I told her. My 1st wife would ask for space and go out and cheat on me. 2 weeks late my second wife asked for space and hated me for like 2 weeks.

\- Durning this time frame all the pain broke me

And all this doubt and anger, and confusion was so great i would lock up and go silent. Followed by out bursts of random questions. I truly loved her but I was always wrestling with all this. Day in and day out.

\- many moments of drinking where she would break things and she would talk about how everyone she has ever known would hurt her. I would say I'm not those men.

\- two events happen where I completely condem myself. A fight where we wrested for two seconds. And another fight where cops were called. I asked for a divorce that I didn't mean for but i was hurt.

\- I gave up drinking. But after a 2 weeks she asked if I could drink again. I trusted her and she drank with me. But I began drinking more as a need to calm this darkness.

\- I am doing everything to keep her happy, love notes, dates, shopping trips, family events

\- but she slowly hated it more and more

\- when she got pregnant she left....July,2023

July, 2023 my Life came crashing down and Forsaked all morales- But I did not Forsake God

I was so full of anger, pain, and years of abuse. I stopped caring about what was right or wrong. But I knew God existed.  Like the story Job, however I wanted to fight and see the world burn for my pain.

I found a worldly man book, Psychology. And it was all about for men, saying do what you want, live how you want to live. After years of pretending to be a Christian- I thought I had found some real truth for once. The book had some faults but a few real truths.

  1. you must speak with truth and get rid of false realities and live in the real world.

  2. well i wanted to live for once and i didn't care about consequences or outcomes.

Who would judge me were my thoughts?

I Felt one day " something " said to get to church. A whisper to the soul.

I had nothing better to do with my life so decided to get to a catholic church. I felt spiritually dead and i didnt know the movements.

A Few days later I saw an ad on Facebook, When i was on social media. I saw a few college girls and I thought they were cute and they were singing at a Methodist church The Church Family there Showed me real genuine love and kindness. I felt so disturbed in their presence I felt my soul twist and coil under my own skin.

  1. for all my faults, the Lord had put in my heart when someone shows me Love and kindness I would show them loyalty and love and respect them.

  2. I remember the pastor talking about doubt : James 1 vs 6-8

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

I decided that I would choose me. Because I will from now on decide what's right for my life.

I never forgot their kindness.

I decided that I didn't want to drive all the way up (1hr one way)

 . I met someone who dabbled in Witchcraft. I didn't believe in that nonsense. I just wanted to experience something New. Well She told me That a Light was chasing me and I would have to make a decision.  I felt fear creep into me. I ran out of that place as fast as I could. something was chasing me

That immediate Sunday I went to a baptist church When I walked into that Church I felt a presence of Anger, Wrath and Judgement. Like it was Resting on my skin. I wanted to FIGHT this feeling

The Pastor also talked about: James 1 vs 6-8

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

He also added: Matthew 6:

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Brothers and Sisters I felt so ANGRY in my soul! I was Thinking How dare this man tell me what I should do?" I felt like a wolf in a cage and my cage had been kicked. I was not angry at the pastor nor the people....But who spoke through the Pastor.

I felt like a sledgehammer had hit my soul and I would be determined to fight against this thing that is following me. No one would tell me what I can or cannot do after all I lost. After the Pastor released us from service I would physically run away. And my soul would feel utterly exhausted after that.

But had pride then, I would not tolerate that so i would go back to fight. I thought I was a Christian and I could not describe what was happening to me. I have only been in Baptist churches til this point.  So I went back to that church every wednesday and sunday.

Each week was the same thing. I felt I was getting beat up and  spiritually exhausted.

Then Oct 15th, 2023 happened....

After months of fighting and resisting Him, I could not fight Him anymore. I didn't know who I was fighting, but I tried to fight  Him.

On october fifteenth I was sitting at a church and a presence came upon me that felt like the entire world came crashing down on me all my sin:

 Romans 1 : vs 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I felt guilty....

In that moment, I felt words whisper into my heart, "Submit to Me"

It was the most powerful whisper you ever heard.

With that in my heart and all of that presence, I fell to the ground.

In my heart and mind I yelled

" I YIELD "

I set that for about ten minutes or so. It felt like an eternity.

But in that moment, I felt as though somebody came over and cut the chains off me, and I felt freed.

My eyes were open from that moment on, and my life has been completely and utterly changed, and so has my heart.

Luke 4 vs

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Who are the Poor?

These are people who have been brought down so low that they see no hope in life and accept that this is their place and fate in life. Whether this is in spirit, financial, physically or in any other way. The Gospel is a Light and Hope for those who are poor to see His Way up in this life.

Me: I was nothing. I was lying to myself saying I was nothing. I was abused for many years and it brought me down and made me feel insecure in my soul( always had to prove my worth) . I accepted that as a man I had to always FIGHT for my life. I had no concept of true peace in my own soul. (tons of energy though)  But at the same time I would lie to myself that I was okay. . I barely had any hope...I had accepted that a man would be stuck in life and the sins that I naturally had.  I had only false hope. He showed me the truth of myself and the Truth of Him.

What is Broken Hearted?

The Broken hearted are many people in this world.  A broken hearted person can be: Somebody who has been abused all their life. somebody who loved someone with all their heart but that person left them alone. somebody who once trusted people and things but was betrayed and now can no longer trust. someone who once believed in true love but was hurt beyond all repair. Someone who was never heard in their life. Someone who has dealt with sickness and death all their life and life hasn't been fair to them( without understanding)

  me: I had a broken Home growing up. My mother was abusive and my father stopped caring at one point and stopped trying. I was with someone for 5yrs who abused me, Hit me, cheated on me to a point and wished death on myself. Then that ended and I met someone and I fell deeply in love and even had a family. Then I was abandoned and had nothing.... I know what a broken heart is.

The Lord God will HEAL all of this. If you LOVE Him Back, He will repair your heart and remove ALL(even me) things so that your heart may heal.

What is a Captive?

A captive is someone who is: Bound in their sin( not free from sin-you can stop sinning), Who is physically bound( captured, bad relationship, etc)  someone who has Years worth of mental barriers that have pride and are stubborn in their ways. Someone who is stuck in addictions( Smoking, drinking, lust, greed, pride, Sin...ETC). People who struggle with oppression: people and spirituality.( Bad toxic family, bad spouses, but those who struggle with depression and their own soul. feels like you are trapped in life and in your own skin.)

EX: I was a slave to sin: Zyn, Drinking,Fighting,  lust, pride(lying is included), arrogance. Fear and insecurity,  26 years of abuse and trauma. I was a slave to my own natural desires.

What is recovery of sight for the blind?

 Human Beings are spiritual beings. And We choose Christ and put our faith in Him. He free's us from our sin and we see the Father and Truth.

What is the "year of the Lord"

The Year of Jubilee, which came every 50 th year, was a year full of releasing people from their debts, releasing all slaves, and returning property to those who owned it (Leviticus 25:1-13).

Jesus came to show us the way, and to teach us how to Love, and pay the price of sin via His death and to lead us to remission of sins.

I felt free after that event but at that time i didn't know what had happened to me. I felt free and lighter than air. In that moment I gave up control of my life, my past, my future, my sin EVERYTHING.

Not even a week later I was about to commit a sin. and The Lord stopped me in my tracks. With the words" you'll lose tyler" it was like a cold anger had hit me. Needless to say I obeyed the voice my soul heard.

Later that Night i yelled in my home "I listned to you" . Show yourself to me. In that moment I FELT a FIRE entering the room and into my soul! A love so vast and so pure I started crying. I have never felt anything like this. and it began a process of burning sin out of my soul.

John 1 vs 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 1vs 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

John 1vs33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Later that night i read

Romans 10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

I understood what had happened to me. I had placed my all in Jesus Christ and put my whole trust in Him. I in a sense surrendered to Christ and all His power. Not in a sense that as a soldier surrendering to an enemy. But as someone in Love giving up control to the person you are in love with. Think marriage, or Children loving and trusting parents.

Deut 6 VS

4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

Mattew 22 VS

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

It's for love that you let go of sin, you let go of the world, you let go of satan. And for Love do you choose Christ.

since Oct 15th, 2023.

He freed me from sin

Healed my heart from years of abuse

Taught me how to love all

Taught me how to forgive ALL those who would hurt me( as if they never wronged me)

Taught me the real meaning of God's power

Taught me remission of sins

Restored my Mother and Fathers relationship to me.

He Healed my PTSD

He fought for me.

He answered my prayers.

He put His spirit in me

He taught me the way( Jesus showed us) Matthew 5,6,7( whole chapters)

Lessons He taught me:

If you love Him you will do these things

Read Matthew 5,6,7

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205-7&version=NKJV

John 15

15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He \[a\]takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you\[b\] will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

Love and Joy Perfected

9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another.

Do His commandments and you will receive the Holy Spirit

You must forgive others or He won't forgive you

How to forgive

My example: i was with someone who abused me for 5 years

By accepting that it happened.

I was married when I was real young 21

\- This woman was very beautiful. And at first kind.

\- That woman hurt me, Hit me, would abuse me

\- She had multiple affairs and would not stop

\- she gave me multiple STDs while married

\-she even slept with my best friend that I served with for 3 years.

\- i was a broken man and my heart became hard.

\- when she finally left me I was so happy.

\- I stay because I thought it was a man was supposed to do. Married for life

\- I did things in secret that nobody knew. I hid alot of shame and sin

By stating what happened and or Sin against you

I laid out everything this person did to me. Said every hard fact that had happed

And forgive them( remove it from the heart) as if they never wronged you before

So i would state what would happen, then from the heart, let it go as if they never had never done this.

Like the way our Father forgives us

He forgives us as if we never done the sin,

You will have to go into the wilderness:

A moment of separation that God will spend time with you, walking with you hand in hand.( i felt like a child holding my Father's hand could be a few days or weeks. But you will know His Voice, and His Ways. Endure this with Him.

He did it with the Hebrews, with Moses, with the Prophets, with Jesus and the Apostles and Disciples

Born again:

You let go of your identity, your attachments\*spiritually\*( family, work, sins, and put all your love on God) if you let go of all things that made you this identity.... Born Again.

He will raise you up as His Son.

Faith:

Faith is another form of trust. If someone earns your Trust, in a sense you have Faith in that person. And you love/trust them.

Ex: my daughter believed that I could do anything. If I asked her to do something she would say so happy \*ok daddy\* samething with my wife. I take the same faith my daughter had on me and give the same faith to God, like my daughter did to me

Faith produces works

If I love someone(trust/faith) I want to show my appreciation that I love them. So if Christ gives me all this love and softly asks show others love and kindness. Well im gonna do it because I love Him!

Sin is an infection. Like a cancer that grows fast and out of control. Believing Christ can take away your sins. Stops and cleans you out.

Temptation:( to overcome sin)

This will happen in a few ways: Recognize these signs

Demonic: comes in a form of outside pressure. This can be used as social media and things that are a like. But it can be almost physical.

From the mind/eyes

If a thought has passed through your mind and you hold onto it. This can lead you to you a sin.

Ex: you see someone you desire or an item that you want. It can consume your mind if you dont throw your thought away. It will lead to your heart and then a struggle to act or not act on it will happen. Throw it from your mind.

From the heart:

This arises from the heart. It's a passionate/strong feeling. Most people try the stuff it back down approach. But it feels like almost an all consuming pressure out and to be acted on. Open up your heart and let it go

James 4

6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

“God resists the proud,

But gives grace to the humble.”

7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you

Open up your heart, let go of that desire. call out to God to save you. And hold on to His strength

He will help you overcome your temptation so that you may not fall

"Your weakness is His greatest strength"

Repentance:

Is from the Heart, if you lied to someone you love. The Guilt eats at your Heart( if you love them) and you feel sorrow and sadness and anger building up from the heart.

You then confess either to the Person you wronged or God. And admit the wrong you did and for Love you want to change and let go.

Ex: Have you seen a people who were drug addicts or alcoholics, who for love of someone children, spouse, anyone. And let go of that sin for someone or something. And never Go back to it.

\- Put all your love into God.

Repentance (continued)

If you love someone and you realized that you hurt them( like a sin against God)

You admit you wronged God( sin)

God is the God of truth so you must admit that you wronged Him and why.

You then from the sorrow in your heart(repentance)

You say in your heart i don't want to do that again to Hurt God( forsake)

And ask God to Forgive you so that you don't have to do that again

Christ died that our sins may be in remission and cleaned so that we may know our Father

In December of 2023( How He taught me to let Go of my Pride)

I was being tempted to go sleep with someone. I had gotten rid of all temptations that I had. But this was a presence and pressure outside me trying to push in.

I was spiritually holding up my own shield and resisting but I was getting tired.

Suddenly, I saw the words in my mind starting to glow.

" you weakness is my greatest strength"

And I let go of my shield and from my heart said " i dont have to strength to stop this sin, I won't fight it, I trust you Lord to what you want"

The moment I let Go. Imagine if someone was behind you and the moment you let go of your shield. Someone else put a shield in front of you. Defending you while you just stand there.

That moment I was Defend from lust and my pride was entirely let go. I let Him defend me.

How to be saved?

Believeing that Christ can take away your sins.(save you from your sins)If you had a knife in your side labeled lust, ( insert all other sins Homosexualality, lying, pride...etc) believing that Christ can take that knife from you. He will pull it out form you( asking you do you believe i can)And never have to feel it again( Because He has taken it from you)

Saved by His grace:

Have you been in love with someone who you felt you didn't deserve. They build you up and look at you with a smile and say I don't care about your past. I didn't deserve His Love, all He said was dont keep on doing what you did before me.

Holy Ghost/ Spirit

A fire that comes down and makes you one with the Father and teaches and Shows you who the Father is.

The Bible will come to life( read old and new)

Burns out sin in your Heart

You will know your Spiritual Gift/Gifts

You will be empowered to walk and shine with His Light.

Choices and Disciples

You can trust Him and live His way, family, everything, being clean of sin

Or

You can chose to forsake it all and follow Christ

And become His Disciple love only Him.

If you have fallen back into sin, cut out the world and go into seperation/wilderness and let go of your sin once again and come back.

Father and Son

The God of the old Testament and Jesus Christ are the very same. Like Father like Son

The Father said and did it. The son confirmed it

Embrace reading His Word with Child like faith. My Daughter believed that I could fix anything and do anything. Do that with yourself but with God and His Word.

Don't embrace any denomination, but ask questions. If a pastor or priest saids you can't be free from sin, or asks you for money. Be weary and cautious. Jesus even said truth freely received, freely give out. If a church talks about tithing( old Testament they priests had to be given food, supplies, because they maintained the temples/synagogues 24/7) remember that you give to those in need or when the Lord puts on your heart to give to someone. The Church is the people( His Spirit in us) not a building.

On denominations: we should be one in one spirit, and all part of the Christ. One church group will Be all about God's Love and showing it, one church will be about God's spiritual gifts, one church will hzeal to go out to talk to you, others will have the strength to stand up to evil(with meekness), others will let you confess and hold your trust.

But we have all been divided by saying" I'm a catholic, I'm a Protestant, I'm a Baptist, I'm insert other things.

How to pray:

My Father who is in heaven

Holy and loving is your name

Your kingdom has come

Your will be done( humble your self and let go of your will)

On earth as it is in heaven

Give me today my daily bread, both from word( bible) and food for my body.

Forgive me of my sins( confess and forsake)

As i Forgive others( those who sinned against you-forgive them)

Lead me not into temptation( for we know He won't)

But deliver me from the evil one and sin

For this is all your kingdom, and the power and glory( humble)

\*learn this\* He will also teach you to talk with Him

Keep the Commandments( yes you can keep them) if you LOVE Him

If you love God ( ten marriage promises)

You won't worship any other God

You won't be be addicted nor follow idols( made by any hand) nor any images or statues( like good luck charms or dream catchers)

You wont take his name in vain

You will honor His Sabbath ( intent not legalistic)

If you love you neighbor:

You would bring Honor to you parents (not pride)

You wont lie

You wont covant anything ( the lord provides all things)

You wont kill anyone

You wont steal

You wont sleep with anyone who is not your spouse( no lust in your heart)

The Law of Moses was done away with. As it supported the 10 commands of God. But now the Gift of Him is to the whole world.

If you love God then you won't have:

Lust, pride, gluttony, lieing or any those sins and all sins.

You can be Free from Sin( forgiveness/remission of sins) if forgive you of $30,000 debt.. why would you go back into debt.

You will Hear and know God.

Traits of the Father:

Meek, kind, loving, daring, Forgiveing, Bondage breaker( to include Sin) husband like, lively, firm defender, caring, encouraging. Long suffering but does have a limit. (Against all forms of Pride)Teacher, Father, will be with you. He will do things to prove His love. He wants your Love. He does not like seeing death.

Lucifer( satan)

He does not want you to be free:

Tricks and tactics: He is the lawyer against you. pride, manipulation(any and all), will pressure you to break. controlling, saying you can't, just keep sinning. Will lie, will use other people, arrogance, live and let live. You can't change. You're too weak. Trap you in long promises or oaths. You're only Human. He will try to stop you from being free.( until you fully give your all to God and He won't allowed you to be touched by the Devil)

Sidenote\* Lucifer can't make you do anything. But only convince you to do something. You willfully decide to fall.

Miracles i have seen:

Feeling His voice which stopped me from sinning

Durning the month of December: I was heart broken because I can feel everything and everyones heart. I called out to God to come down and comfort me I was crying for hours til this point. I was sobbing on the Ground. I felt two feet by my head. And as if someone had bent over and whispered so softly " Here am I, Tyler" my heart skipped a beat and I completely cried even harder due to Him showing up!

He protected me from a Gang of men. Two street preachers caused a scene and I intervened. I told them that if they want to hurt me they can. I will only love and forgive. But they went from wanting to kill me to shaking my hand.and giving me a Hug.

I drove 800 miles with a broken wheel bearing it can slide off and could not go faster than 35 miles per hour.

With Him saying keeping going you'll be safe.

He stopped satan from bothering/attacking me directly.

He has given me people who i consider family. I make everyone my family.

I had a friend who was in a motorcycle accident. He was in a coma, and brain swelling. I was devastated because I cared about very much( like a brother) I called out to God and asked Him, Heal him so that he can tell the world you did it. Within 3 hrs he was a wake and no swelling or anything. I told him I prayed for you and God answered. He(friend) posted on Facebook how God healed him!

For His love: I give up this life. I gave up my sin, I let go of my career in the Army. I let go of my retirement. I let go of va disability( healed)I let go of my inheritance. I give it all up, I give up self defense. I will love and forgive and tell the truth. I will be an example to you all to see hope, faith and truth. I will pick up my cross and follow Christ.

I will be the light in the dark, to glorify my father. to show others the way. To walk in the Spirit and Remission of sin.

So let me ask you all of this

Are you ready to Ignite?

Are you ready to be the Light in the Dark?

Are you Ready to be Free and Show others the Way?

Are you willing to let go of everything for Christ?

If you go to God in prayer and say it from the Heart, not the mind nor lips. But from the very center of you.

I believe with all my heart, soul and mind. That Jesus Christ is the son of God can Set me Free from sin, that He is the way, the truth and the life. I will let go of my Sin, My Life, My Future and control of everything. I will love Him with all my Heart and will Keep His teachings. I will Love Him and Trust Him. I repent and willingly let go  of all my sin and place my heart in your Hands.

u/Disciple418 — 7 days ago

Why does Derek Prince say YHWH and Jehovah are false gods when discussing deliverance?

I took some notes a while back from one of his videos and he says YHWH (i believe its actually YHVH because hebrew letters dont have a w but a v/vav) and Jehovah are false gods. I followed his old sermons for a bit and needed to know how to get delivered. But alot of people still call God YHWH and Jehovah even in songs. Why would he say that? And i understand true christians can be rare and just because someone says it doesnt always mean it's true. Also i understand that these names are latin or english translations as well. So i need clarification on this. Thank you in advance.

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u/oceansstillwaters_ — 7 days ago

Forgiving When It Still Hurts

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Forgiving When It Still Hurts

📖 VERSE 📖

"Bear with one another and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you."

Colossians 3:13

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📘 STORY 📘

The vineyards of Ephraim stretched across the hillsides like green waves beneath the summer sun. Among them worked a man named Joash, whose family had tended the same vines for generations.

His closest friend was Elior. They had grown up together, worked side by side, and trusted one another as brothers.

One year, during a season of hardship, Joash entrusted Elior with a large portion of the harvest to sell in a distant town.

The profits would sustain several families through the coming winter. Weeks later Elior returned. The money was gone

So was the trust. Joash learned that his friend had gambled much of it away and used the rest to pay personal debts.

The vineyard survived, but only barely. Several labourers lost work. Families struggled through the cold months that followed.

The betrayal cut deeper than the financial loss.

Joash could endure hardship. What he struggled to endure was the memory. Years passed.

Elior eventually returned, humbled and ashamed. He confessed everything and asked for forgiveness. Joash wanted to forgive.

He truly did. Yet every time he looked at Elior, the wound reopened.

The memory remained sharp. The loss remained real. One evening, while pruning vines beneath the setting sun, Joash spoke with an elderly rabbi. "I have forgiven him," Joash said quietly. "Yet it still hurts."

The rabbi nodded. "Then perhaps your forgiveness is genuine." Joash looked confused.

The old man continued. "If forgiveness only existed after the pain disappeared, few would ever forgive.

Forgiveness is not the absence of pain. It is the refusal to let pain become hatred."

The words settled deeply within him, the scar remained.

The memory remained. But bitterness slowly lost its grip. Joash never forgot what happened.

Yet neither did he allow it to rule the remainder of his life.

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📚 STORY LESSONS 📚

Many people believe forgiveness means the hurt instantly disappears. Scripture teaches something deeper. Forgiveness is often a decision made while the wound is still tender.

The pain of betrayal, rejection, cruelty, or abandonment may linger long after forgiveness has been given.

That does not mean forgiveness has failed. It means healing is still taking place.

God never asks us to pretend evil was good.

He never asks us to call betrayal a blessing or abuse acceptable. Instead, He invites us to release vengeance into His hands and allow Him to carry the burden of justice.

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🎵 POEM 🎵

The wound was deep, the scar remained,
Though many seasons came and waned.
The memory lingered clear and strong,
Recalling every bitter wrong.

The heart cried out for debts unpaid,
For justice where the hurt was made.
Yet mercy whispered soft and true,
As Christ had shown, so must you do.

Forgiveness walked through pain and tears,
And carried burdens through the years.
Not blind to wrong nor deaf to grief,
But finding in God's grace relief.

Lord teach my heart to set things free,
As You have shown such grace to me.
Though scars may stay until life's end,
Let love and mercy still transcend.

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🌿 MEDITATION 🌿

One of the most difficult truths about forgiveness is that it does not always remove the pain immediately. Sometimes Christians feel guilty because the wound still aches after they have chosen to forgive.

Yet forgiveness and healing are not the same process. Forgiveness is often a choice.

Healing is often a journey. Jesus carried scars after His resurrection.

The wounds no longer held power over Him, yet their marks remained. In a similar way, some hurts leave lasting impressions upon our hearts. The goal is not to erase the memory, but to prevent the memory from becoming bitterness.

Forgiveness frees us from becoming prisoners of the offence. It places the matter into God's hands and allows Him to work where our strength cannot.

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🪞 QUESTIONS FOR THE SPIRIT 🪞

• Is there someone whose offence I continue to carry within my heart?

• Have I confused forgiveness with pretending the hurt never happened?

• Am I waiting for the pain to disappear before I choose to forgive?

• What bitterness might still be taking root beneath the surface?

• Can I trust God with justice even when I cannot see it being done?

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❤️ CHALLENGE YOUR HEART ❤️

Consider a person whose actions wounded you deeply. Bring their name before God honestly. Do not minimise the hurt, excuse the wrongdoing, or deny the pain.

Instead, ask God for the strength to release your claim upon vengeance and place the situation into His hands. Where forgiveness feels impossible, begin by praying for willingness. Sometimes the first step toward forgiveness is simply being willing to let God start working within the wound.

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🗝️ KEY NOTES 🗝️

• Forgiveness does not require the pain to disappear.

• Healing and forgiveness are related but distinct processes.

• God does not ask us to deny wrongdoing.

• Forgiveness releases vengeance into God's hands.

• Bitterness harms the one who carries it.

• Christ is our example of mercy and grace.

• Some scars remain, but they no longer need to control us.

• Forgiveness brings freedom even when healing is ongoing.

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🙏 PRAYER 🙏

Heavenly Father,

You know every wound I carry, every disappointment, every betrayal, and every pain that still lingers within my heart.

I confess that forgiveness is often difficult. There are hurts I struggle to release and memories that continue to ache. Yet I thank You for the mercy You have shown me through Christ.

Give me the strength to forgive as I have been forgiven. Help me surrender bitterness, resentment, and the desire for revenge into Your hands. Where my heart remains wounded, bring healing. Where my spirit remains burdened, bring peace.

Teach me to trust Your justice, Your wisdom, and Your timing. Let Your grace flow through the places that still hurt, and help me walk in the freedom that forgiveness brings.

In Jesus' name,

Amen.

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u/MichaelWhitehead — 9 days ago

Come As You Are

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🧭 THEME 🧭

Come As You Are

📖 VERSE 📖

All those the Father gives Me will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will never drive away.

John 6:37

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📘 STORY 📘

In the hill country of Judea lived a shepherd named Ezra. One winter, a violent storm scattered part of his flock. For days he searched among rocky ravines and thorn-covered slopes.

At last he found a lamb trapped among brambles. Its fleece was torn, its leg bruised, and it was weak from hunger. The lamb struggled when Ezra approached, frightened and exhausted.

The shepherd knelt beside it. He did not strike it for wandering. He did not leave it behind because it was injured. He carefully cut away the thorns, lifted the lamb onto his shoulders, and carried it home.

As the storm clouds broke apart and sunlight returned, the lamb rested safely against the shepherd's neck. It had nothing to offer him except its need. Yet that was enough.

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📚 STORY LESSONS 📚

Many people believe they must first become worthy before approaching God. Scripture teaches the opposite. Christ receives those who come to Him.

The shepherd did not rescue the lamb because it was strong. He rescued it because it was lost. God's grace reaches people in their weakness, not merely after they have overcome it.

Salvation rests upon Christ's faithfulness, not our perfection. His promise is not that He might receive us, but that He will.

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🎵 POEM 🎵

I came with burdens, fear, and shame
And thought that Christ would do the same
Yet mercy met me on the way
And drove my darkest doubts away

No golden crown adorned my head
No worthy life behind me spread
Yet still His open arms were wide
And drew me safely to His side

The storm was fierce, the night was long
My weary heart no longer strong
Yet through the dark His voice remained
And every fearful chain was tamed

O gracious Lord, whose love endures
A steadfast promise ever sure
No soul that seeks Your face in faith
Will find Your mercy locked away

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🌿 MEDITATION 🌿

One of the enemy's oldest lies is that we must somehow clean ourselves before approaching Christ.

Yet the Gospel repeatedly shows the opposite. The sick came to the Physician. The sinner came to the Saviour. The lost came to the Shepherd.

Jesus does not promise to welcome only the strong, the successful, or the spiritually mature. He promises to receive whoever comes.

His invitation remains open, and His grace remains greater than our failures.

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🪞 QUESTIONS FOR THE SPIRIT 🪞

• Do I secretly believe I must earn God's acceptance?

• What burden am I still carrying that Christ has invited me to surrender?

• Have I allowed shame to keep me distant from God?

• Do I trust Christ's promise more than my feelings?

• How can I reflect Christ's welcoming heart toward others?

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❤️ CHALLENGE YOUR HEART ❤️

Think of an area of your life that you have kept hidden from God because of guilt, embarrassment, or fear.

Bring it honestly before Him in prayer. Stop trying to become worthy enough to approach Him. Instead, approach Him because He has already invited you.

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🗝️ KEY NOTES 🗝️

• Christ welcomes those who come to Him.

• Salvation rests upon His faithfulness, not ours.

• Shame often keeps people from approaching God.

• Grace meets us in weakness.

• Jesus promises acceptance, not rejection.

• God's invitation remains open today.

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🙏 PRAYER 🙏

Father, thank You for the assurance found in Christ. When fear, shame, or doubt tell me to stay away, remind me of Your promise.

Help me to come honestly before You, trusting Your mercy rather than my own efforts.

Teach me to rest in Your grace and to welcome others with the same compassion You have shown me.

Draw me ever closer to Your heart, and strengthen my faith in the certainty of Your love. In Jesus' name, Amen.

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u/MichaelWhitehead — 9 days ago

How is it so simple to discern the false prophets from the true if even the elites are decieved?

I know there is a scripture that tells us to discern the difference by acknowledging Jesus as the son of God by saying He is God that came in the flesh. But if the elites can be decieved. Then how do we know the difference from that verse alone? Especially if one is decieved by satan or is in the wilderness? And how do we know if we are operating in a false spirit even if we don't see it starting at surface level? And are we in a time where if we fall it will be impossible to get back up as well?

I even thought about praying for false prophets so they will have time to repent. Not realizing i still needed to be free myself. And i was always told. The only way if there is no time to repent or make things right with God. Is when you d!e (dont rip at me for this. I have my reasons for censoring this and im not looking for a debate on this.)

So basically, tl;dr how does a true christian discern false from true prophets based on scripture even if the elites do get decieved? And can a false prophet repent before it's too late?

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u/oceansstillwaters_ — 9 days ago

How do i ask or explain 1 Corinthians 14:27-28 to the church if its not my place to do so (maybe not yet)?

I had been holding back bringing this up in church due to personal disobedience and needing deliverance. I understand this and i had also spoken in tongues before. But the tongues i spoke was from a telligible language i thought i had heard before (thought it was slavic. I had no idea what i was saying but was amazed i spoke it) most of the tongues i hear nowadays even in my own church aren't always telligible. And i thought this scripture needed to be spoken of in church. Especially since most of our churchgoers (possibly by assumption) probably have no idea what's being said. When i had tongues. I couldn't tell exactly what was said but i could pick up on specific languages and dialects but not the words themselves. I also was heavy into linguistics at the time as well.

And asked multiple times in prayer for God to give me the gift to interpret tongues because i had a love for learning languages. Long story short i dont think i ever got the gift to fully understand it. And it couldve been due to having an evil spirit.

But when i came across this scripture and i thought to myself about this. And that if there wasnt an interpreter should the pastor or anyone else speaking in tongues pray this way in private to God? I didnt want to come off as someone telling them what to do when i wasn't fully taught myself. And that hindered me from wanting to address it especially since i still needed deliverance and i wasn't doing too well. How do i approach this and is there more i need to know about the gift itself so i wont be misguided? Thank you 🩷

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u/oceansstillwaters_ — 9 days ago