Empathic Object Permanence and the Continued Failures of Gender Debate
Consider this a critique of all gender issue movements, from Egalitarians, Feminists and MRAs, but more largely a consistent failure of the advocates and adherents. Whether it be the ivory-towered academics and Ph.D level instructor, all the way down to the lowliest high school student unexperienced, uninformed and relying solely upon whatever Pathos inspired argument sways them, there is something that continually stands out to me when discussion starts.
It doesn't matter if its the Red-Pill Chugging Dude-Bro Supplement pusher or the stuffy, blue-haired, septum-pierced and tattooed pink-hatter, both tend to fail at a very simple action. The acknowledgment of another's pain or lived experience.
I assume all of you nodded your heads at the assertion that your opponent fails to understand the pain that your side experiences. Most of us have, had that moment where someone of the opposite gender or the opposite ideology simply stood up during a discussion and without data, without statistics, without any shred of evidence simply dismissed you. "That didn't happen", "That's not true." "You're making things up.", amongst a host of other synonymous statements.
I am a man. And like many, many men that I have known. I spent the majority of formative teenage years and into my early adult life 15-22, having numerous comments made about my body. Both sexually charged and derisive. This has lead to body dismorphic disorder. Oscillating between disgust and fear at times trying to keep myself from being overweight, but not highly desirable as I have very little interested in sexual relations.
I've been told by more women than I can count, that I just need to get over it and that what would be construed as sexual assault towards a woman, is just a complement, or I should be grateful it happened. This has been said to me not only in this context, but as a rape-victim that was drugged and had the act disseminated to the internet.
On the same token, it hasn't just been women that have said it. But there has been many, many, many times that those pushing against gender norms and saying they want to push towards a gender neutral society through the lens of Feminism, have rejected that those incidents happened or that they are even common. It is a denial of my very lived existence, and a push away from me expressing how society has failed me, and how I might want resources that are normally reserved only for women.
MRAs and men are not innocent of this sin either. No one here needs me to tell them that there are some men out there who would view that all as being some "irresistible stud", or would hear about the same things happening to women and respond with the same level of dismissiveness.
And there in lies a major problem with either end of our gender spectrum. The vast majority of the discourse purposefully blinds itself to the problems advocates or in some cases, the opposite gender brings up. They look towards their own gender like a new born looks upon the world. Seeing the problem presented and nodding, because their lived experience reinforces it as a reality; however, when the sheet of paper that is the opposite gender covers the problem, suddenly, the problem no longer exists.
Obfuscating many of these ideas further is often how faulty, one sided, cherry-picked or many times just out right ancient much of our research and data into these issues are. To say nothing of the semantic games that get played, societal pressures and the self-reported surveys that get produced. Only further complicated by the varying desires of each individual.
As this community inevitably grows or crumbles, I want to encourage everyone to push towards a simple idea. A simple course of action, if we truly want positive discussion and discourse. If want to find some middle-ground or healthy form of debate.
We can not simply dismiss. While the adage of Hitchen's Razor is a reddit favorite, "What can be presented without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence", it often simply falls apart in gender discussions. Because the burden of producing most of the evidence for these issues now, comes primarily from anecdotes and personal experiences. We also can not just out of hand dismiss studies with data we don't like. We have to be able to engage with it, or pinpoint WHY the study was bad or faulty.
Failure to assume good faith, failure to address a study as valid without proving invalidity and most of all simply turning every conversation into a "who has it worse", serves no other purpose than to win a pissing contest and create endless "whataboutisms", that address no issues and widen the divide in gender discussion and issues.