r/RogueMains

Been seeing a lot less of Rogue for the past season and a half, haven’t seen a chèr since she got nerfed. Anyone else miss seeing chèr?

I have been an Emma main ever since she came out, close to 200 hours on the character, but I fell in love with Rogue's gameplay loop and fell, doesn't matter if she's weak, or if gambit's always banned, everytime Emma isn't working I bust out my good old Chér, and sometimes I can even make her work teamup-less in t500 lobbies

They didnt have to make her show so much skin. Or atleast give an edit style wheres she is not lewd but still sexy. What do you guys think with the jeans?

there's no way we're deadass, dd is so good into rogue that genuinely the second i see one i instantly switch to strange. At least thing you can play around 🫩

it’s been a while since i drew something! shes a total baddie in that outfit

Magik main here. Don’t be fooled tho she’s the only dps character I play. I’ve gotten a lot of practice playing various tanks like Strange, Devil dino, Emma, Groot,Venom, Angela, Thing.

If any of the listed characters’ gameplay loop I play can be compared to rogue in anyway, would appreciate any advice. I tried her out a couple times but just can’t figure out her gameplay loop.

Balance Proposals:

First and foremost, REMOVE Hearts as One. Having her balance tied down to a Team Up is ridiculous. Season 8.5 will be the third season since her release (12/12/2025).

To be clear, I would never expect multiple of these to be implemented. Rogue, as a Brawler, doesn't quite have the staying power other have to remain in a brawl. The following are not intended to be added all at once but reflect potential resolutions to each ability outside of "Lower Rogue's cooldowns."

Tenacity, as a whole, needs to be revisited (remove it in my opinion. Tanks aren't the ones benefitting from this nearly as often as Duelists and Strategists). I mean, come on. Tenacity was highlighted in her new skin reveal... That... was just embarrassing.

1. MOVEMENT SPEED:

• Increase her base movement speed from 600 → 650 (matching Thor and Hulk).

2. POWER SURGE PUNCH:
At present, she has to exhaust a CHRONO KICK COMBO, a 10s cooldown, and land each piercing projectile for +50 Bonus HP/target hit.

Apply the following to the third hit of POWER SURGE PUNCH combo:

• NEW: +50 Bonus HP for every third hit of POWER SURGE PUNCH.
• Increase the damage from 45 damage to 60 damage (matching CHRONO KICK COMBO: RANGED ATTACK; this includes the AOE spell field for the primary target ONLY while the AOE damage itself deals only 15 damage).
• NEW: Empower her third hit to deal 15 damage in an AOE spell field. Additional targets hit inside of the spell field grant +25 Bonus HP; hardcap Bonus HP gained to +125 Bonus HP (Base HP of 675 + 125 Bonus HP = 800 Max HP).
• Optional: Increase the ATTACK SPEED from 0.73s/hit → 0.53s/hit.
• NOTE: For reference, The Thing gains +100 Bonus HP for landing his Secondary.

3. ABILITY ABSORPTION:
I mentioned it earlier but Rogue is often vulnerable to damage during the 0.75s absorption.

• Add Bonus HP to Rogue during the animation lock so that she isn't killed during the animation or exit with ~20% HP.
• NEW: Grant Rogue +250 Bonus HP that rapidly decays over ~1.5s if the animation lock vulnerability cannot be fixed.
• Remove the internal timer for USING any stolen ability. This would allow Rogue to use the stolen ability at her leisure. The 25s cooldown can begin once the ability has been used.

4. HEARTSEEKER

• Increase the radius for the spell field from 8m → 10m.

5. CHRONO KICK COMBO

• Lower the cooldown from 10s → 8s.

6. FATAL ATTRACTION

• Reduce the cooldown from 14s → 12s.

7. DEFENSIVE STANCE

• Reduce Energy Cost to use Southern Brawl from 30 → 20.
• Reduce Energy Cost from 60/s to 40/s.

Obviously, Rogue can use a lot of love. Freeing her from Team Up dependency and improving her sustain as a melee Brawler is crucial. These changes are intended to lower the barrier for entry. Rogue is a highly skill expressive character (especially with how we've adapted to the Tenacity mechanics). There's much more that could be done but I feel like this let's the team up live on to a small degree while serving not as a large damage boost but as a means of sustain.

Thoughts and considerations? Outside of cooldowns, I feel like Chrono Kick Combo and Fatal Attraction are fine. Increasing the ring's range to match the proposed Heartseeker range of 10m was a consideration but I decided against overwhelming you all with my proposals. Attached images included so that new players could take a look at and reference her kit.

EDIT: Corrected Movement Speed buff to match Thor and Hulk.

Art courtesy of @KagamiNekoo

If People are saying Rogue can’t be Buffed because her team up with Gambit makes her too strong. Why is a character’s value being determined by their team ups? Also, why can’t she be Meta? Why can’t a melee Brawler be Meta for once?
Hela has been Meta in Marvel rivals since the goddamn BETA.

In Namors case, his base kit gets Buffs at the cost of the Team up being “Nerfed”. But it’s really not actually.
In terms of Gameplay, nobody will look at you with a serious face and say Namor takes more skill than Rogue. All it does is make Hela undivable and Vanguard’s lives miserable.

Right now, after the release of Devil Dinosaur Rogue feels like Shit to play. And i wouldn’t trust Zhiyong at all with the Tenacity bullshit and the Disgusting Buffs to Phoenix of all characters.