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Hey guys , complete newbie here , i just stumbled upon this specific pic from pintrest and learnt about the masadaverse

Now this word ignited something deep within me , i recognized it , i am fate /nasuverse fan , so yeah , i am familiar with interconnected lore , visual novels and light novels

Please tell me about this , what to expect? What order of the things i should read watch or play ? Also inform me if there isn't a translation for a certain thing , also some background about the creator

Thank you

I finished Dies Irae it was very fun one thing i would say is series which is known for action pack chuni stuff suprisingly a lot of good slice and highschool drama which I really fuck with like i have a lot of fun with it.

I will go route by route.

1. Kasumi Route :-

I think the finale was anticlimactic.

The fight was lame, and the whole thing felt incoherent.

Trifa was about to rape his own stepdaughter and only stopped because he saw the ghosts of the children from his orphanage. And I’m supposed to believe that he was always going to let Fuji kill him and that the whole thing was just a prank?

Oh, and in the end, everything was practically worthless because Reinhardt would have been coming back anyway.

With that said, the tragedy was good.

Is Ren alive at the end? Is Kasumi fucking some other dude?

Kei. Oh my God, Kei.

At least the Shirou stuff wasn’t a fake-out either, so that’s good. He really did die.

2. Kei Route :-

Phenomenal route as a whole, but the climax was underwhelming.

Sakurai is such a great character. I already liked her in the previous route, so I’m really happy to see her character expanded here.

Her tragedy is being so stuck in the past that she’s willing to walk the same path again, and she’s fully aware that she’s sinning. She’s even willing to die if the punishment comes, just like it did in the last route.

Her embracing Ren after being left completely hopeless was fucking beautiful.

I think the anticlimactic part was the final stretch.

There was so much hype built up with one fight after another. You have Cain vs. Shirou. You have Sakurai nearly defeating Trifa. Then you get the fucking ankle-breaking ending with Reinhardt arriving at the very end.

But the reason I feel disappointed is because so many of the hyped matchups were between Ren and Machina or Beatrice and Eleonore. It feels like a cop-out, like the story is just saving those fights for later.

The ending should have been Reinhardt and the boys killing us all and fulfilling the ending.

Instead, it ended in a very contrived way: “Yeah, Mercurius is gonna bail us out.”

“Oh, did Mercurius kill Rea? Apparently something related to her caused the castle to collapse.”

Nope, she’s fine.

“Oh, did he kill Kasumi to unleash Cain?”

Nope, she’s fine.

It all feels like, “Yeah, see you again. Please love Marie so she has a chance against Reinhardt.”

But that final scene was beautiful.

Good route, meh ending.

3. Marie Route :-

10/10

I have no flaws to point out with this one. Probably one of the best routes in a visual novel I’ve ever read.

The grander narrative was absolutely magnificent, both on the macro and micro levels.

Whether it was the grand battle between Reinhardt and Ren, or the minor characterization of Eleonore—how she hates women because she believes her love for Reinhardt will never be reciprocated, which explains why she is the way she is.

The thematic conflict on the surface is solitude vs. bonds.

One side believes that a community can be forged through togetherness, kindness, and shared pain, while the other believes that true strength comes from individual fortitude—to fight until they reach Valhalla, essentially questioning the point of kindness and believing that human nature is ultimately defined by the harshness of the world.

Of course, both sides have their contradictions.

Reinhardt, despite his appetite for destruction, makes a half-assed attempt to form a familial bond in the end, only for it to backfire on him.

Ren, meanwhile, has to grapple with the dilemma of how far he is willing to go to protect the people he treasures, and whether he is willing to sacrifice countless people he doesn’t even know for the sake of the one he loves.

There were so many banger character moments: Trifa and his pathetic end; Ren finally finding his purpose in life; Marie realizing her feelings and learning how to love something; and Rea dealing with her unrequited love.

And then there’s Reinhardt vs. Ren, which is easily one of the best fights I’ve ever seen in anything, especially in the anime/visual novel medium.

Reinhardt is easily one of the best antagonists I’ve encountered. He is genuinely a force of nature, yet at the same time, there is something incredibly empty about him. He represents unabashed cruelty, but he interprets that cruelty as love. He destroys everything while believing that he loves everything, yet he never truly understands what love actually is.

The fact that he can say “I love all and everything” while being so completely hollow makes his character even more fascinating.

And that climax on the rooftop, man. That was genuinely heart-wrenching. The side story at end was heartbreaking those sinners have tomorrow damn it.

One of the best routes this medium has to offer.

4. Rea Route :-

Rea Route was phenomenal.

I feel like this route was the answer to everything: Who is Ren? Who is Mercurius? Who is Reinhardt really? It answers almost every mystery surrounding the world.

It also gives us some of the most anticipated fights in the entire series. One of them was off-screen, but it is what it is.

It was incredibly fulfilling to see the full development of all these characters. We finally get to see Trifa take a stand against his destiny and, this time, actually make a difference.

The character dynamics were also fantastic. The showdown between Lisa and Eleonore finally gives us the dynamic that was teased in the Kasumi route, especially their disagreement over what a woman ought to be. Both of them are broken women, but in completely different ways. Lisa is a sinner, while Eleonore is coping with losing the battle for Reinhardt’s love. She has accepted death as the only finale she can look forward to.

Rea is an adorable baby girl who loves Ren with her whole heart. She is aware of her destiny, but she’s still happy living within the fake paradigm of their lives, with Trifa and Lisa acting as her parents. She’s happy simply because she gets to be with the boy she loves.

Her arc—of a girl who is destined to be sacrificed, yet still longs to remain with the person she loves and wants him to be safe even when everything else is falling apart—is beautiful.

Mercurius is suicidal, I guess? Curse of immortality type shit.

And Rusalka, my goodness, what a phenomenal character she was.

She spends all this time chasing the love she lost, but at the same time, she’s deeply broken by men and desperately trying to fill the wound in her heart. She lives in fear of Heydrich because of her past trauma, and that explains so much about why she is the way she is.

That final scene in the side story, where she finally finds her love, was fucking beautiful. Even though the tragedy is implied—he still dies—she at least gets to confess her feelings to him. That was genuinely heartbreaking.

And Reinhardt finally gets his full character arc.

This time, he actually loved all and everything. He paid his child support. He had no hesitation anymore. He was finally aware of how miserable his life could have been. He used to be afraid of death, as shown in the flashback with Mercurius, but not anymore.

He gave up on the life he had as a bureaucrat in Nazi Germany. He is finally free from those bonds, and now he is simply giving everyone his pleasure and his love.

I had a lot of fun with this route.

Well, to begin this analysis—

• Have you seen the movie Obsession?

I'll explain as I go, and it will make sense (I think) in the end—let's go!

I'll use this movie as an example because it's quite recent and easily accessible, and it's also easy to understand and grasp the basis of what I'm saying, as well as better understand Muzan and Mags, and their differences and similarities.

In the Movie, the MC called Bear makes a wish for the character to love him above all else, and precisely because of Bear's wish, a new Nikki is born.

This Nikki has a personality TOTALLY superficial compared to the original, but still, in a way, it's her.

In the sense that she seems to lack the "depth" or "humanity" of the original, and is something "superficial."

Like a new personality superimposed on the original, like a mask and a completely new personality.

Based on Bear's perception, based on his wish!

According to the director, he has already said that what happens to her is not possession, as occurs in normal films of this genre.

But literally, the bear's desire CREATED a "new Nikke," a new "Nikki" who acts similarly to a multiple personality.

She acts in a completely distorted way and literally seems not to know what it's like to be "human," acting only based on the "original character" she's using as "clothing."

That's where Muzan and Mags come in from the glossary:

> He reigns, but does not govern. Therefore, he cannot be called Hadou.

> Even so, his new stance, of transforming the structure of the external world, represents a complete break with the old Magsarion.

> Varhram, even being the most supernatural of all, desired a banal life, but never managed to achieve it while he lived.

> As his antithesis, Magsarion becomes involved with the prayers of "everyone," becomes a god, and places "that child," banal and common, at the apex of the supernatural, as his guide.

> With these three transformations, Magsarion was reborn. He came to understand even the Commandments and hidden desires of Shinga. The last modification, in particular, was a fatal blow against her plans.

Remember that Nerose even mentioned that Muzan is more of a sword than "human" and that he can't even imagine how "that" was able to be born, because it was too "inhuman"?

And as we've seen, Muzan's own personality is very bipolar and changeable in contrast to the previous Magsarion.

As if several "desires" were superimposed on the original, concealing it.

That's why Muzan is his "mask," and that's why he's unstable.

I believe that those who have never seen Magsarion don't see the difference. But people like Quinn and Alma, I'm sure they would notice.

That's why Muzan is called "a multiple personality" and a "mask."

He's not exactly a person, but basically, as Nikki's character, he was essentially a "wish" that came true, which is why he doesn't act exactly like a "human" and acts according to the "prayers" that created him and Magsarion's wish.

Basically, he is the personification of Magsarion's "Hadou."

Not that Mags HAS or IS Hadou

But the desire to create one of his own and the prayers of ALL, created this personality and new being "Magsarion".

Muzan is more of a sword and a living law than a "person".

That's why he is armor and a mask, as stated in the glossary.

And ironically, the author of Obsession said that the real Nikki is in purgatory while the false Nikki controls her body and follows her desires.

And this reminded me of how Magsarion is in the abyss while his "other self" commands in his place.

Just as Muzan is in the world and Mags is in the abyss of the throne,

Muzan is a superficial mask of Mags.

Not his real personality, but a being/personality created to replace him and be the "Hadou Magsarion" in his place, based on his desire and prayers.

That's why he "is and isn't" Magsarion, because he is Magsarion, but a version of him that was created by his desire and everyone's prayers to be a "Hadou," and as stated in the glossary, this creation fragmented him from his "former self."

I think it would even make sense for him to be called "Magsarion" by Massada.

He's basically a living "what if" version of himself. A personality of a version of himself.

He's not Magsarion, but he's a version of him.

This would finally explain why, and would make sense with Magsarion's statement that

> he would be the one to assume the throne, but it wouldn't be HIM.

This would explain why Masada constantly confuses me with these things when talking about Magsarion and Muzan.

Muzan both is and isn't Magsarion, as he is an artificially created version of himself.

This would explain all of Nerose's talk about it being impossible for something like Muzan to be born naturally or to be human.

Because Muzan isn't; he is and isn't Magsarion, a living law and sword made in his image that "everyone" possesses, but isn't the real him. A new personality for the being called "Magsarion," while his REAL self sleeps in the abyss.

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Some additional comments my friends Maubruto and Dairokutenhajun made to this analysis:

• Maubruto:

It would make sense for him to be something born from the law of anarchy.

Because, as it's said, Magsarion is at the top of everything, but he doesn't enjoy that position like a king (Hadou). Muzan, born from the desire of many people to change the world, was formed as a final point through this law, generating his own law through the prayers of Nadare, Khvarenah, Sirius, and Kaikhosru, but the switch that made it light up was the fourth commandment.

Since, if you look at Nadare's fight, Magsarion himself speaks of infinite sins, she speaks of an endless cycle of killing, which corroborates Kouha's summary about the second heaven.

So Muzan came from everyone's desire, but needed something final to form, the basis being the fourth commandment, where he reigns AND governs, unlike Magsarion, who is only at the top but doesn't assume that position. for yourself

• Dairokutenhajun:

I believe Masada did explain why muzan wears a suit, by saying that's how everyone "perceived" Magsarion as, so in a way, even his appearance isn't that of the original being and is shaped by prayers, Apart from that, Muzan's prototype being Aka Manah which is literally just a sword also ties into what you were saying about him being a blade.

Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well. I'm here to share another translated scene from Takashi Masada's novels, this time Kajiri Kamui Kagura Akebono No Hikari and its final battle, Hajun against the Eastern Expedition.

I hope everyone can enjoy it! 🙏

• Video

As stated in the interview where he discusses each of his works and his favorite characters:

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> It turns out that all my recognition of Seijuro in the story, his rejection and mockery, are a kind of self-therapy.

> In any case, these are just my personal problems. There's nothing to praise me for here.

> But, rereading the text, I feel the heat radiating from Seijuro. As I said, it's a resentment that consumes the entire work, but, on the other hand, he wouldn't have been able to overcome it without the necessary strength.

> This is a forbidden act, which I have no right to repeat. Seijuro personifies the author's shameful history, but his darkness surpasses that of any character in "Dies". Even isolated episodes with him rival the entire legion of "Dies".

> For better or for worse, it's worth it.

> My moralizing style, which arose from my inferiority complex, began to manifest in Hachimyōjin and will continue to accompany me for a long time.

> But I realized, once again, that the experience of creating Seijūrō should not be wasted.

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