r/SilverSmith

Strugglea with silver clay

Hi everyone,
I’m trying to make my own silver clay because I want to eventually make a silver ring for my girlfriend, but I’ve been struggling badly with the binder.
My starting material is metallic silver that I’ve converted/recovered and dried. I’m trying to combine the silver powder with carboxymethyl cellulose (CMC) and water to make a workable clay/paste that can later be dried and sintered.
I’ve tried several approaches:
• Adding a CMC solution slowly to the silver powder.
• Drying the silver first and then mixing it into an already-prepared CMC solution.
• Mixing the CMC and silver as dry powders before adding water.
• Adding CMC gradually to the silver/water mixture.
The main problem is ALWAYS the same: the CMC forms small hydrated lumps/clumps. These lumps seem to grab silver particles, become very thick/hard, and I end up with little pieces of CMC-rich material throughout the paste instead of a homogeneous clay.
I’ve also noticed that my silver powder is somewhat dark/grey, and the resulting paste looks darker than commercial silver clay, so I’m wondering whether the state of the silver matters — metallic silver vs silver oxide, particle size, particle morphology, etc.
My questions are:

  1. What is the best way to hydrate CMC without creating these lumps?
  2. Would methyl cellulose be better than CMC for silver clay?
  3. Is it better to prepare a very dilute binder solution first and then incorporate the silver powder?
  4. Does the particle size/morphology of the silver powder matter a lot?
  5. Should I be using metallic silver powder, or is silver oxide ever used as the starting material?
  6. For someone trying to make a workable DIY silver clay, what binder system would you recommend?
    I’m particularly interested in advice from anyone who has actually made homemade silver/metal clay rather than just commercial PMC/Art Clay.
    I’m trying to get a smooth, homogeneous clay that doesn’t contain little CMC gel lumps.
    Thanks!
    Also i face problema with the texture that turns shewing gum like some times, and it keeps puffing up when anhilated i think its be cause of cmc decompoaition
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u/Old_Conclusion9929 — 1 day ago
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Handmade Sterling Silver and Amethyst pendant

Used to be a ring, figured it would look better as a pendant so I chopped it up a little and put it back together ❤️

u/Alchemiiist_3 — 1 day ago

Hessonite Garnet

I picked up some garnet cabochons a while back for accents on more complicated pieces, but I have a few extra. One went into this simple pendant! Working on soldering small things and also not melting tube sterling. The tube hinge makes for a nice little fidget!

10mm hessonite garnet round, 18g wire, 24g sheet, fine silver bezel.

u/emeemay — 3 days ago

Solder not flowing?

Beginner silversmith here, looking for encouragement not judgement, still have a lot to learn! I am aware I have too much solder here, I’m experimenting with this piece. These solder pieces are not melting no matter what. I’ve cleaned the metal, and whatnot, how would you trouble shoot this

u/sad-and-unsure — 4 days ago

Pretty cool one I made last night! From the Silver State!

Fantasy carved Smoky Quartz

u/Orfinart — 3 days ago

Opinions please!

I would love an outside perspective!

I’ve had this stormy cab of Pietersite in my collection for a while and I want to make a simple silver pendant with it.

I’m trying to find the best way to set the stone that won’t detract from the movement within it. There’s also a small swirl of orange that flows over the side that I don’t want to lose.

I originally thought to do a fine silver bezel setting but I’m afraid that a lot of the swirls in the stone will be lost if the sides are fully enclosed within a bezel.

My question is, how would you go about setting it with silver?

u/zoidbergsleftclaw — 3 days ago

Silver clay plus copper clay question

Because silver clay is fine silver, LOS doesn't work on it. Or at least it doesn't very well for me. I bought a pouch of copper clay to fool around with and started wondering about adding an oooonch of the copper clay to the correct amount of silver clay, and make sure it's mixed really well with mortar and pestle, could it approach sterling instead of fine silver?

I'm not going to ask AI, because it's a plague and I hate it. I'd rather hear from y'all here in person.

(Picture is of some necklaces I made back in the day, for the Scottish Highland Games circuit that I worked for years. They're sterling silver Celtic knotwork, cut and pierce from 18 gauge flat sheet and chased to make the illusion of weaving knotwork. Fun to do but really hard on the hands.)

u/Outrageous_Pay1322 — 5 days ago

Mandril for sizes between Ring and Bracelet

Hey guys,

Most mandrils for rings stop at 24 mm (largest size) and the bracelet ones start at 38mm (smallest size). Have any of you ever found a brand that carries a mandril with the sizes in between?

I want to make some bezels for these big ass old Moroccon coins that mostly fall between these two numbers 🫠

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u/Rich-Ad-3087 — 4 days ago

Photographing Shiny Things

Banana for scale.
These are some scarf rings I made, mainly for practice getting the joints right. They are made of #8 ga copper wire, electroplated with tin (I've given up silver for Lent). To they naked eye, the tumbled rings look flawlessly shiny. Even tin takes on a nice gleam. But when I photograph them, flaws and mottling appears (2nd photo).
Is there a reason this happens? (It happens with silver, too.) Is there a way to photograph shiny stuff without this effect?

u/Dangerous-Billy — 5 days ago

do we still love jimothy or has the internet moved on?

I still love jimothy tho. Left him as a silhouette because i don’t actually know how to engrave and I don’t want to ruin it 🤪

u/emeemay — 6 days ago

First try with prongs

I tried making a ring with prongs. I kind of did it but as you can see the photos, prongs are not aligned right and there is a gap under the stone because apperently I made the space too narrow. I can make it wider but I don't know how to align prongs properly. Wheh I am soldering one of them, weld on the other can melt and it gets skewed.

The material is brass.

Edit: I am watching some videos about it. I see some people using something like clay to keep parts in position. It looks like useful, is it just regular clay? Also I see some people don't use it and parts just stay in their position. I guess when you do everything just right up to the soldering, they stay in position (maybe with capillary action)

u/Striking_Froyo_7300 — 5 days ago

New to Silversmithing

I started silversmithing and soft soldering in May. Here are a few of my pieces. I sell mostly on depop. Where do you sell most? What do you price your pieces at?

u/acraeinae — 6 days ago

can someone here give advice if i can make a dagger necklace (Pristine Blade Necklace if you've played the game "Slay The Princess") by hand or do i need a machine for it

Im planning to create one but i cant figure out how to make a miniature pristine blade. Id like it to look metal enough at least if its more feasible to not use metal (but if you guys have used metal to create a miniature pristine blade, did you do it by hand or by use of a machine or just by commissioning it to some metalworker since it is a small thing)

The Pristine Blade im talking about is attached below. Im trying to make a smaller version of that so I can put a hole and turn it into a necklace like in the second picture

https://preview.redd.it/tna7xolybhjh1.png?width=2100&format=png&auto=webp&s=e753a913b7747a7211e4da9f98900c5c29d40140

https://preview.redd.it/kdkjwbw0chjh1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=3884ad1889e66d822ace8eebbd1582b700b07943

second pic is the one im trying to recreate except a smaller dagger

Thank you in advance!

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u/Owsleyy — 5 days ago
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Mis primeras 30/40 piezas

He comenzado a hacer joyería hace menos de un año. Uso Alpaca/nickel silver. Aún no me animo a invertir en plata aunque me gustaría, ya que siento que las personas buscan más la plata 925 que alpaca.

Me gustaría saber la opinión de personas con más experiencia. En qué debería mejorar, probablemente en la soldadura.

También quisiera aprender wire wrapping para combinar ambas técnicas.

Alguien tiene experiencia vendiendo en mercados de Europa? Me gustaría hacer eso el verano próximo.

u/kalitalisma — 7 days ago
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Picture to silver pendant

Wanted to see if I could create a 3d pendant from a 2D picture. I am going to try again and make it a bit larger. This one is only about 2” tall.

u/lifescoil — 6 days ago