r/Stranger_Things

Ranking:

31. Jason Carver

32. Ted Wheeler

33. Vickie Dunne

34. Kali Prasad

35. Officer Phil Callahan

36. Officer Calvin Powell

37. Fred Benson

38. Mayor Larry Kline

39. Tommy Hagan

40. Tom Holloway

41. Troy Walsh

42. Lt. Robert Akers

43. Lonnie Byers

44. Angela

45. Dr. Kay

Write in the comment section which character you want eliminated next. Basically, your LEAST favorite character of the ones remaining!

The character with the most upvotes will be eliminated each round.

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To be clear, I'm NOT against one that better resolves Eleven's arc (for those who believe she's still out there somewhere) but including characters other than her and maybe Mike and Hopper would officially ruin the franchise, in my humble opinion. Here's why...

Sequels RARELY succeed at not fucking shit up. They just don't. Either that, or they're lame compared to the OG and flop after a season or two (e.g. That 90s Show). If Netflix wants their nostalgia bait? They should do a 10, 15, or 20-year reunion special like Harry Potter and Friends did. That way the cast can return and reminisce without further risking the OG's rewatch value. I am dying on this hill.

I mean think about it. The Duffers have been very clear they want to keep the "basement door" closed and even if you're a Duffer anti, can't we appreciate that the story's supposed to be a coming-of-age arc? Not to mention, if Netflix tries to do it without them (regardless of how people feel about season 5's writing, the DBs are still the lorekeepers), I know a bunch of randoms hired by money hungry execs aren't gonna do it justice, especially if the cast refuses to return without them (which is likely based on what they've all said in various interviews).

Corporate-hired writers would also rely on the laziest, most predictable, fanfic-adjacent plotlines in the world. Like one that I'm personally scared to death of is them putting Lucas in the military as a convenient plot device (i.e. he discovers something pertaining to Eleven's survival/whereabouts which brings The Party back together) when, considering his full arc, is nothing short of TRAUMA BLIND CHARACTER ASSASINATION. Idgaf if Caleb himself started it, he's not the Duffers, and he seemed to be mentally stuck on an earlier version of his character when he said this because he simultaneously said Lucas "would do anything for Max" seemingly failing to grasp that Max would NEVER be a military wife. She might be the most anti-establishment of them all 💀 not to mention it'd trigger her abandonment trauma and she'd resent him joining the guys they view as responsible for hunting Eleven (her best friend, mind you).

But it's not just about Max or Lumax or even Eleven. It's ignorant to Lucas's own trauma. He deserves a relaxing "small village" career. He can still be the tactical guy without enlisting. He EARNED HIS PEACE. (There may also be racial implications having the sole Black lead join the "enemy" but I won't get into that because, as a white chick, I don't feel qualified to speak on it). "B-But he could fix things from the inside!" That's unrealistic af. He's only one person who wouldn't be able to climb the ranks high enough for that kind of intel for freaking DECADES (if ever) not to mention I doubt the military would even accept him in a realistic Cold War era setting because that whole group would 100% be on a lifetime watchlist now. This is not an action-hero franchise. This is a supernatural/sci-fi coming-of-age show. So if they were to turn it into a generic ass spy thriller that ignores all logic, I'm done 🙄. (Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts about this headcanon and none of them are positive if you can't tell lmao). Same deal with putting Dustin in some government science lab, or making Mike is this depressed hermit, etc. Those are lazy, plot-convenient tropes and horrible writing. Dare I say INFINITY times worse than the cringiest lines of dialogue that came out of season 5.

The only "OG character's career/situation leads directly into the plotline" that would even remotely make sense is Nancy's journalism.

So here's the brutal truth: The only way to protect and preserve the character arcs we got is to vow to boycott a future sequel. Because Netflix owns the IP, the Duffers don't have the final say, and regardless of how you may or may not feel about them, I'm personally grateful that they agree the series should remain a "closed book" about a group of misfit friends "coming-of-age" in the 80s.

If anyone else agrees, check out this petition I'm part of promoting: https://www.change.org/protectstrangerthingslegacy We're hoping to get a bunch more signatures by the 10 year anniversary on July 15th. (Yes, it's a long shot and may sound downright delulu thinking a fan effort can stop a streaming giant like Netflix but remember everyone thought Joyce Byers was crazy in s1, so myself and others promoting and signing this are happy to be the Joyces of the fandom to protect and preserve the integrity of our comfort show, just like Joyce risked her own reputation as a sane person to save her beloved son Will!) IF YOU SIGN REMEMBER TO VERIFY IT IN YOUR EMAIL ASAP OR IT WON'T BE COUNTED IN THE TOTAL!!!

Graphite drawing of Will Byers from Stranger Things. several hours to complete. Hope you all like it—feedback is always appreciated!

Ranking:

35. Officer Phil Callahan

36. Officer Calvin Powell

37. Fred Benson

38. Mayor Larry Kline

39. Tommy Hagan

40. Tom Holloway

41. Troy Walsh

42. Lt. Robert Akers

43. Lonnie Byers

44. Angela

45. Dr. Kay

Write in the comment section which character you want eliminated next. Basically, your LEAST favorite character of the ones remaining!

The character with the most upvotes will be eliminated each round.

If someone already commented the character you wanted to eliminate, don’t repeat it, just give their comment an upvote instead!

The round will last 24 hours!

It was the writer's attempt to make that line come full circle.

Duh.

https://www.stihlusa.com/en/p/chainsaws-ms-201-gasoline-chainsaw-1027285#ms-201-t-c-m-1027365

The Chainsaw Lettering in Episode 3 of S5 Stranger things is upside down!! If you look on the official website for that product it shows the lettering is wrong, even though the chainsaw is upright.

For me :-

Season 3 (most fun nostalgic summer vibes✨)

Season 4 (Peak moments with plot twists💥)

Season 5 (cried the most in this season 😭)

Season 1 (the first ever stranger things experience was just😩)

Season 2 (not a bad season but just below all the seasons despite being the season to establish dustin and steve's brotherhood ❤️)

I connected to the season most which had more emotional depth that's why ranked like this and you can tell me your rankings too it would be interesting..........

Ranking:

44. Angela

45. Dr. Kay

Write in the comment section which character you want eliminated next. Basically, your LEAST favorite character of the ones remaining!

The character with the most upvotes will be eliminated each round.

If someone already commented the character you wanted to eliminate, don’t repeat it, just give their comment an upvote instead!

The round will last 24 hours!

Billy and Jason by far the two most divisive characters in Stranger Things and it isn't even close. Years after their stories have ended, they're still hotly debated about in the fandom over how sympathetic vs hateable both are. I genuinely feel like if 1. They had their personalities swapped 2. Their ending's were swapped, both would be WAY less divisive.

Billy is introduced to the audience as basically Troy but in high school. Most specifically a Henry Bowers expy. Calls the high school girls cows, lashes out at Max and runs the kids off the road. And this is his establishing character moment btw. Throughout season 2, he's also show as racist to Lucas (originally supposed to call him a "worse piece of language according to Dacre), downright abusive to Max and a bully to Steve, who nearly kills him when the latter tries to protect Lucas from his wrath. He had no redeeming qualities and his only sympathetic moment was actually something Dacre Montgomery got the Duffers to add in, showing he was meant to be a hate sink. So even after his heroic sacrifice to save Eleven in season 3, many fans felt it wasn't nearly enough for them and said they only felt bad for Max.

Jason is someone whom I thought was being set-up as the Troy/Billy character of his season but subverted my expectations. Him exclaiming his love for Chrissy wasn't just for show, it was genuine as we see when he learns about her death. I thought he'd be pissed Lucas stole his thunder with the game winning shot but he was genuinely happy for him and saw him as a friend. Aside from the scene of Eddie antagonizing him first, he isn't seen having any hostile interactions with people before Chrissy died, Andy was more of a bully. When he had the chance to catch Eddie, he stopped out of concern for Patrick and took his friend's body back to shore. Even in the attic scene, when I was waiting for him to say SOMETHING racist to Lucas, it never happened, he genuinely was only beefing with him because he thought Lucas was about to sacrifice Max to Satan (more concern for her in 1 scene than Billy throughout his entire screentime). So when he's just split in half and never mentioned again, I feel we're meant to feel it was deserved but when monsters like Dr. Kay get away scot-free or even Andy, a more despicable minion, got no consequences, I'm not satisfied.

And its not just fans who feel this way. Even actors in the show said they find it baffling to see Billy getting excused and justified by fans while Jason is constantly demonized. Its the opposite effect, Billy was meant to be seen as a redeemed, symapthetic villain but many found him too despicable while Jason was meant to be viewed as just a hate sink, asshole victim but a lot of fans felt he was redeemable despite the series trying to tell them otherwise.

If their personalities were switched, I'm certain their ending's would hit more. Imagine if Billy had the same personality as Jason and then had the ending he got in season 3. Fans would absolutely feel his redemption hit. And if Jason was a racist, misogynistic abuser who got the death he did, everyone would cheer. Or better yet, switch their ending's. Let Billy just get killed off abruptly. Let Jason, the guy who wanted to protect Hawkins but was unintentionally targeting the wrong person, die saving someone. Hell, maybe even let him survive to season 5 and he sacrifices himself for Max as redemption for accidentally causing her to fall into a coma in the previous season.

first of all, the overall characters would've been equal as in -

Male leader - Steve and Jonathan

2 kids from og 4 - Dustin/Lucas and Will/Mike

1 Female - Robin and Nancy

and a New comic Character - Eddie and Argyle,

not to mention we could've gotten a much better break-up scene, some more Nancy-Mike scenes actually acting like siblings and a heartfelt bond between Nancy and El (as she always looked upto her as a safe figure).

what else do you think could've happened ? tell me in the comments