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So this is what I’ve wanted to talk about for so long.

Which one is more canon? Or which one makes more sense storywise?
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So this is what I’ve wanted to talk about for so long. Which one is more canon? Or which one makes more sense storywise?

Valeria, generally a fan favorite. Here's why:

If you choose Valeria, she can reunite with Anita (her rival) and perform a Unite Attack that would otherwise be unavailable if you chose Kasumi. They can also have a minor interaction if you bring them together.

Valeria is generally stronger in war battles because she uses cavalry.

Valeria also possesses a rare rune, held by only 4 (5 if you count the master) people in the Suikoden world, called the "Falcon Rune."

As for Kasumi, she's less favorable among fans, but I always choose her over Valeria. Here's why:

If you choose Kasumi, you can go to Rockaxe Hamlet and get both Sasuke and Mondo faster, even before fighting "you know who," the mid-boss. You also get a cute interaction with "the previous hero" if you bring her along when doing "his" side quest. Even though it's a small scene, it's a whole new scene, not just some interaction.

She's an archer in war battles, making her less useful than Valeria, but tbh, I really don't care.

She possesses the Shrike Rune, which is more common. But her biggest downgrade is her attack range. For some unknown reason, she's an L-range character in Suikoden I, but in Suikoden II, she becomes an S-range character.

u/Agitated_Evening8736 — 5 days ago
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Hey everyone, here's my piano cover of the opening theme song from the Suikoden anime, Even My Sadness Is Older Now by amazarashi. Enjoy! :)

u/Leost725 — 5 days ago

Weird, but I thought episode 2 was released today in Japan. I don’t see anything in anione Asia. Am I missing something?

The day was October 10 7pm JST

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u/BringbackSuikoden — 5 days ago

Just watched the Anime's first episode. Some thoughts:

Ever since i first played the game it was my dream to see an anime of it, and for the longest time i thought the suikogaiden cutscenes were the most we'd get in that regard. I'm so glad to be wrong. They did an admirable job moving the pace along in this episode ,considering its mostly gameplay with little story in this part of the game.

Riou is a lot less awkward speaking than i thought he'd be, and its also great to see him take a more active role*.* The added scenes of Agares and the war council makes me think they'll focus more on developing the Highland characters which is sorely needed.

All in all, this episode makes me very hopeful for the rest of the series, they seem to really want to do the games' story justice ( even including the ost!) and i can't wait to see the rest of them!

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u/BloodyReizen — 6 days ago

Suikoden x Raku Spa Cafe Review

Hi guys, I was fortunate enough to pay a visit to the Suikoden x Raku Spa Cafe so thought I'd share a review.

For some background info Raku Spa Cafe is a collaboration Cafe which hosts various collaborations, they have a few locations across Japan, some are Bath houses with a Cafe and some are just Cafes, they are doing a Suikoden Star Leap collab until the 20th of October.

I visited the Shinsaibashi location on Tuesday 6th October around midday, this location is just a Cafe so there was no bath facility.

The Cafe is on the 4th floor of the 心斎橋日光 building in Shinsaibashi, a popular fashion district of Osaka, there wasn't much signage so it was a little difficult to find but once you walk in you can see the signage on the floor guide next to the elevator.

After exiting the elevator you will immediately be at the reception desk, there's actually two cafes here so I told the staff I was here for the Suikoden Cafe and they gave me a table number and QR code then showed me through to the left. On the way to the cafe there is a little merch stand and some visuals from the game.

Upon entering the Cafe I noticed it was completely empty, I was the only customer and there wasn't even any staff, the Cafe is self service, meaning you order via QR code and pick up your meal from the kitchen window when it's ready.

The cafe decor is pretty minimal, just a few banners of the main characters, some character bio's and a life size cutout. There were TV's playing a few scenes from the game on a 10 minute loop. Overall not very impressive.

Every item ordered comes with a random coaster of one the characters, also their face portrait tag on the item itself, the coasters come in a blind bag.

We ordered Flik's Potaf and Humphrey's Stew Hamburg as well as a Hero's Crimson Squash. The taste was OK, I've been to a lot of collab cafe's in Japan and I'd rank this slightly above average in taste but below average in creativity / presention. I know it's basically the standard but face portrait tag on food item is low effort.

After the meal I returned to the merch stand and grabbed a basket to fill up, theres keychains, badges, acrylic stands and other miscellaneous things, mostly standard offering.

For an additional 1100 yen you can get a random mini towel, 1 per person who spent over 1000 yen at the cafe

I picked up 3 stands and a keychain as well as two towels, total for the food and all my merch came to about 14,000 yen, I got 3 washi style stickers for free and they even gave me some of the leftover Star Leap manuals from TGS last month which I was really happy about.

Overall I had a good experience and was really happy with all the merch I got. I did try to go to the bathouse in Toyashi a couple days later but unfortunately my partner fell ill so I had to cancel it but I was already satisfied from the Cafe.

Thank you for reading the review I hope it was informative :)

u/spiderpants108 — 7 days ago

Will the anime show the dark history of Luca Blight and his mother? How Jillia was conceived?

Will the Suikoden anime actually explore Luca Blight’s dark past including what happened to his mother, Queen Sara and the unfortunate circumstances surrounding Jillia’s conception? It’s one of the darkest parts of Suikoden II’s lore hidden because it is SA and I wonder how much of it the anime will be willing to show what caused the trauma of the Mad Prince.

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u/Moon_Degree1881 — 6 days ago

Show support: Rate Suikoden positively at mysnimelist

It’s at a really bad 6.7, but the people here clearly liked it.

The more support the closer we get to Suikoden 6.

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u/BringbackSuikoden — 6 days ago

What’s the current consensus on Suikoden Remakes?

Selected flair doesn’t mean discussion has to revolved exclusively around S1.

I’ll say, I’m no authority on this series. I played S2 back in the early 2000s. Rented it multiple times from a Blockbuster shelf, and loved everything about it. Didn’t even realize the game has a save transfer gimmick from its first game until several years later and that gave me the S1 experience, which had a cool story, and gave some much needed story context about the reoccurring characters and wider world, but I enjoyed my time with less. Never played any of the other games in the series though.

S2 is in my JRPG Holy Trinity. I bought the remaster, loved it. I backed Eiyuden Chronicle, and while objectively I think that game was probably a 7, I’d give it at 8 all things considered, and absolutely loved the idea that it existed via crowdfunding. What I am currently, impatiently waiting for now is a Global Star Leap release. All those familiar characters, with these new flashy animations and attacks, battles with modernized gimmicks and system, but still feeling very Suikoden. Between Star Leap and Eiyuden, it really has me looking to the first game, wondering “what could be” if say, they chose to do Remakes of 1&2 that, keep the style and story of the original games, but really ramp up animations and effects of certain rune magic and attacks to feel be even more detailed and intricate.

Where are you guys at on this? Are the remasters enough? Would you prefer 3-5 get some love? Do you just want 6 at this point? Idk if I’m in the minority or not but I really do appreciate the sprite-style of the first two games. I remember seeing the change in design for S3 and just not…gravitating to it the same way. The fact that Eiyuden opted to be created in that style is a huge part of why I donated. There’s just something that feels so unique to Suikoden about that style, but it might just be my personal experience.

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u/jdow0423 — 7 days ago

My theory on how the episodes will go

Given that we will only probably have 23 episodes, this is how I think the episodes will go.

I also listed the stars of destinies that will be recruited.

Two big assumptions:

  1. The SOD's are the people included in the last frame of the ending credits

  2. That the first cour (eps 1 to 11) will be until Greenhill, since Teresa and Shin are in the frame.

Events SOD
Ep 1 Mercenary Fortress Riliu, Nanami, Mukumuku, Tuta, Gengen
Ep 2 Ryube and Toto burning, fall of merc fortress Pilika, Apple, Tsai, Tomo, Zamza, Hanna, Kinnison, Shiro, Rikimaru
Ep 3 Runes, white deer inn, and Muse Alex, Hilda, Pete, Anita
Ep 4 Reconnaisance mission and fall of Muse Jess, Hauser
Ep 5 Coronet, Kuskus, and South Window Leona, Barbara, Viktor, Flik, Eilie, Rina, Bolgan, Tai Ho, Yam Koo, Oulan
Ep 6 North Window and Recruiting Shu Richmond, Shu, Freed Y., Amada, Yoshino, Stallion
Ep 7 Battle with Solon Jhee and introduction of SOD's Luc
Ep 8 Kobold Village and Two River Tetsu, Gabocha, Hix, Tengaar
Ep 9 Battle for Two River Ridley, Fitcher, Sid, Chaco
Ep 10 Greenhill academy infiltration Flying Squirrel Squadron, Meg, Gadget, Pico, Emilia, Jude, Jeane
Ep 11 Rescue of Teresa Teresa, Shin, Nina
Ep 12 Going to Matilda and meeting Humphrey and Futch, Sacrifice of Muse
Ep 13 Flight from Matilda and first battle with Kiba
Ep 14 Defeat of Kiba, death of Agares, Sheena arrives
Ep 15 Alliance with Toran Republic
Ep 15 Capture of Ridley and defense of Dunan Castle
Ep 16 Night Raid
Ep 17 Night Raid
Ep 18 Tinto arc
Ep 19 Liberation of Greenhill and Muse,  death of Kiba
Ep 20 Conquest of Matilda, Battle with Gorudo, Shu's Gambit
Ep 21 Battle of L'Renouille and Beast Rune
Ep 22 Duel at Tenzan Pass
Ep 23 Epilogue

Major differences from the game

  1. You heard it here first, Neclord will not be in the anime. And I like it to be that way. The Tinto arc was a major curveball and just out of place for me. We might still see a vampire in Sierra, but there won't be a vampire hunt arc. Kahn Marley is probably not an SOD. However, I will miss the Celestial Sword / Night Rune.

  2. Pete, Pilika, and the four other flying squirrels will be SOD's, to replace others like Wakaba, Adlai, etc.

  3. We'll have no zombieland arc in tinto, and most likely Jess and Hauser will join the group either during the fall of Muse, or that Jess's reconciliation with Riliu will happen during the South Window arc or after they win against Solon Jhee.

  4. Since there's no Neclord, North Window is probably just a normal abandoned castle, and they will abandon Viktor's back story. Or use another reason why the place decayed

Notes:

  1. The narrative seems tight since 23 episodes is a bit short. But I think by removing the Neclord-adjacent ones, the core emotional beats can still be covered while using narrative shortcuts to save time.

  2. The total SOD's at this point in the anime is 58. At this point in the game, it should be around 64. So it's possible that some of the missing ones will appear in the second cour. My hunch is that the non-combatants like Hans, Hai Yo, and co. will appear when Luca is defeated and the lands feel "safer" for these civilians

  3. Notable missing from the frame for me would be Clive, Hai Yo, and Huan

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u/genso19 — 8 days ago