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My 35th collection post: focusing on a group of intimate, functional items: covered boxes and lidded jars.[3248×1808]
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My 35th collection post: focusing on a group of intimate, functional items: covered boxes and lidded jars.[3248×1808]

(Fair warning: This is a deep dive! I love documenting the details of each item, the thrill of the hunt, and my reasons for collecting them. I am mapping everything out now because this writing will serve as the script for my future videos. Rest assured, I’m a real person sharing a real passion—not an AI bot.)

Hello everyone!

Following up on my recent threads, today I want to share my 35th collection post, focusing on a group of intimate, functional items: covered boxes and lidded jars.

The Evolution of My Collection

For those who have been following my posts, you know my obsession with teapots and Totai Shippo (cloisonné on porcelain) branched off 28 years ago due to a fortunate car breakdown. However, my foundational love for Japanese cloisonné actually began 34 years ago.

It all started when my wife and I stumbled into an antique store and were completely spellbound by a Japanese cloisonné vase. The absolute beauty, precision, and artistry of that single piece sparked a lifelong passion. Over the last three decades, that initial spark has led us to curate a collection of more than 40 pieces, spanning various sizes, shapes, materials, colors, and functions.

Bringing Luxury to the Desk and Vanity

This brings us to today's beautiful subset of vanity and desk vessels. These objects brought the luxury of cloisonné (Shippo) directly onto the vanity tables, writing desks, and dressing areas of the Meiji and Victorian eras.

If you read my 33rd collection thread on Totai cloisonné, you will recognize two of the pieces in this family portrait: the small, dark-green round box and the light-blue patterned box. Because they are functional boxes as well as Totai ware, I wanted to include them here to show how they fit into the broader narrative of lidded vessels.

In this group, you can see how Meiji artisans pushed boundaries with different geometries, materials, and background textures:

  1. The Gothic Arched Casket (Top Left)

This rectangular box is an absolute standout. It utilizes sharp geometric framing, featuring arched ogival panels (resembling Gothic church windows) that segment individual floral sprays and butterflies against a dark background. This dense panel work gives the piece the heavy, luxurious look of a medieval jeweled chest tailored for the Western market.

  1. The Large Turquoise Covered Box with Peach Finial (Top Right - Totsi Shippo)

This round, bulbous covered box with peach finial (Kogo) serves as a magnificent centerpiece. The entire body is blanketed in a vibrant turquoise ground filled with a dense, repeating cloud-scroll pattern. The crown jewel is the lid, featuring an elegantly sculpted finial shaped like a peach knob—a universal symbol of peace and longevity.

  1. The Flat Green Compact (Bottom Left - Totai Shippo)

This small, dark green circular box features delicate floral sprays on the lid and a dotted border. It is a wonderful example of early-to-mid Meiji experimentation with cloisonné on a porcelain body.

  1. The Material Fusion Round Box (Bottom Center)

Sitting right in the center is a low, round tripod box that beautifully mirrors the technique of my finest teapots. The shoulder features a heavy concentration of shimmering Aventurine glass (Goldstone), creating a starry, glittering contrast against the intricate blue and brown floral scroll panels below.

  1. The Sky Blue Round Box (Bottom Right - Totai Shippo Pair)

Decorated with floating butterflies and traditional geometric borders, its tight patterns prove that craftsmen didn’t cut corners just because a vessel was compact.

My Collecting Rule of Thumb: The Power of Variety

When you look at this new group of lidded boxes alongside my previous teapot and Totai collections, my core philosophy becomes clear: Never collect the same item twice. Instead, chase maximum variety.

By following this rule, this collection deliberately covers every possible variable:

The Shapes: Shifting from sharp, architectural rectangles to perfectly smooth, low rounds.

The Scales: Spanning from heavy, large statement pieces down to delicate, palm-sized miniatures.

The Handles & Lids: Moving from flat, flush lids to high domes, complex spouts, and overhead handles.

The Materials & Colors: Contrasting delicate Totai porcelain bases with heavy metal foundations, using backgrounds that range from midnight black to vibrant turquoise.

Why do this?

Because a varied collection turns a simple hobby into a living historical archive. It highlights the incredible versatility of Japanese master enamelers. Firing glass onto a flat surface is difficult, but wrapping wires and flowing enamel across a curved teapot spout, a square corner, or a miniature box lid requires absolute genius. Grouping these contrasting pieces together tells the complete, engaging story of artistic evolution!

Market Insights & Lessons Learned Along the Way

For fellow hobbyists looking to get into Japanese cloisonné, small vanity boxes and covered jars remain an incredible, highly accessible entry point. While masterwork presentation vases can easily fetch thousands of dollars, beautiful, unsigned pieces like these can regularly be found at antique shops, estate sales, or online auctions for between $30 to $250, depending on condition and enamel complexity.

Even after 34 years, my Japanese cloisonné collection is still missing two major types: wireless cloisonné (Musen Shippo) and Plique-à-jour (Shotai Shippo).

I do own a pair of Chinese plique-à-jour ducks, but I had never encountered a Japanese example until recently. After sharing my duck collection, another collector reached out to tell me they collect Japanese plique-à-jour vases and bowls, so I hope to acquire one in the near future!

The search for a wireless piece also led to a funny (and slightly disappointing) collecting story. I saw a vase on eBay listed simply as "cloisonné" that looked exactly like wireless work. Since I had never owned a piece before, it was hard to confirm from the pictures alone. I even asked an AI tool, which assured me it was wireless cloisonné! Excited by the great price, I bought it immediately. When it arrived, I discovered it wasn't cloisonné at all—it was a porcelain vase painted to look like it. It was a classic collecting misstep, but those little surprises and learning moments are all part of the fun of the journey.

If you love my collection and like to see the fake wireless vase I mistakenly bought, please keep an eye out for my upcoming 36th Collection post! In that thread, I will be showcasing my 10 genuine Japanese cloisonné vases right alongside this fake wireless one to break down the differences up close.

I would love to hear your thoughts! When you make a series of collections, do you have a rule of thumb?

u/Antique-collectorlo — 11 hours ago

A couple of paintings I picked up today

First is an unsigned 19th Century Alpine painting and the second is titled Saturday-Noon by Jack Robbins

u/Wide-Reflection1137 — 11 hours ago

App for logging your art collection?

Hey guys, new here!

Is there a decent (on device, not to expensive) app to keep your art collection with photos and details? Everything I've found seems to end up storing the collection externally which I don't particularly want..

I have received 9 not-extraordinary items that I would like to catalogue.

Alternatively, is there demand for one? I've toyed with the thought of making my own..

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Own a lithograph by Georges Lambert. Found, bought, and restored the original paintint.

u/BCNART4 — 15 hours ago
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My favorite Hilma af Klint painting, on a vintage Dooney and Bourke.

I made this to sell because I am in need of cash, but I am definitely going to be sad when the day comes. Just have to seal, so I consider this finished.

Please lmk if you have any advice or comments so that I can get better next time. I had so much fun doing this and will be on the lookout for another bag to make my own.

u/anewchapteroflife — 1 day ago
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Selling a painting

Have a painting that was given to me but moving homes so looking to sell. It’s an acrylic on canvas, size is 72cms x 60cms. Artist name is Rajendra Usapkar. Looking for 5 lakhs. Please dm if interested.

u/Unable-Travel-8786 — 23 hours ago
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Selling this painting! ^^

Need more budget for painting materials and school (broke college student😔) so Im selling my paintings! ^^

This is a 16x20 inches painting

Inspired by Japanese Cherry Blossoms🌸

Title: Oubaitori 桜梅桃李

“every flower blossoms in its own time and unique way.”

Selling it for the price of P. 2,500 :))

u/jeliyahinwonderland — 1 day ago

Sharing A Proud Collecting Milestone

Really happy to finally possess a Steadman print. I thought of his work when I started collecting 2 years ago. Hoping I would be able to own or at least temporarily own his work. I was obsessed with HST when I was younger and still am. What do you think? This is from Steadman's 'Sarajevo Series' there are 14 styles each with a letter. So this is the 14th print of this monotype in the 'S' series of the Sarajevo Series'.

Also, there is a video of Steadman creating this very design at the 'Peacock, Print Stuio' in 1993. It is so endearing and funny you should watch it. I will post a link.

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I need your help, my grandma wants to sell some porcelain paintings she made and I don’t know how much people would pay for them

Here’s some of them, all of them have been patiently painted by my grandma with passion, she loves doing it. But we are receiving way too many and we have no space left to keep them. I’d love to make her feel useful again (she’s sad because she feels we don’t need her) by making her think people love her art (her family already loves her paintings, but we literally have no more space to put those things and it happens that some of them ends up forgotten somewhere.
Here it comes the question: what do you think about those paintings and how much would you pay for them? Would you give her some advice for new ones? Thank you all!

u/Mother-Data-5262 — 3 days ago

Original pen and ink on paper work of art or reproduction?

I bought this piece of art at a fine art auction where it was described as an original pen and ink on paper, but I want to be sure. Here are some close-ups of the ink. What do you think? Thanks in advance for your help!

u/Mediocre_Athlete_617 — 2 days ago
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Scream Sladjana Pejovic Acrylic on Canvas 60x40cm 2026

In the flame of my own being, torn apart, thrown into the abyss of obedient gazes, I am the scream that shatters silence.

Helplessness is my skin, despair is my blood, rejection is my breath.

In the authoritarian darkness, where the crowd becomes a faceless mass, I am crucified between my own pain and the indifference of others.

My eyes are the mirror of degradation, my lips are a wound that never heals.

Every shadow within me is poison, every thought is a fracture, every tremor of the soul is a blow into emptiness.

There is no comfort, no salvation — only endless silence that devours my scream and returns it as the echo of my own downfall.

I am a living funeral, a walking wound, a song without melody.

Within me there is no light, only a flame that does not warm, but burns.

And while the crowd stares with obedient eyes, I remain alone — crucified, humiliated, yet tirelessly howling against their silence.

u/Few_Field_6318 — 2 days ago

Original Oil or Hand Embellished Glicee

Edit: It seems like the general consensus is that it is printed and painted over. I'm not sure if this is part of the artist's process, or maybe if the original was mixed up with the hand embellishment. I want to reach out to the artist. What's the best way to do it with giving them the benefit of the doubt? How would you word it?

I bought a work of art and the artist said it was an original oil. I paid him half and then he delivered it to my house the next day where I paid him the other half. When I saw it at the art festival, it looked real, but now I'm taking it out now that we're ready to put it up and I'm not sure if it's original or an embellished print. The artist talked about how he's done hand embellished giclee and that he sells him cheaper, but I loved the piece and decided to invest in the original. The artist has a good reputation, but this is my first time buying an artwork. I'm worried if maybe there was a mixup.

I got a microscope to help see if it was printed or not. Can anyone help to know if this is printed with some paint on top? I want to be sure before I reach out to the artist.

u/SuggestionFuzzy6215 — 3 days ago
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Can Anyone ID This Artist?

It came from an estate in Connecticut. Maybe the signature/initials are a different language or symbols? AI search has brought nothing useful.

u/Impossible_One_2021 — 3 days ago

Glicee or Original Oil?

I bought a work of art and the artist said it was an original oil. I paid him half and then he delivered it to my house the next day where I paid him the other half. When I saw it at the art festival, it looked real, but now I'm taking it out now that we're ready to put it up and I'm not sure if it's real. The artist talked about how he's done hand embellished glicee and that he sells him cheaper, but I loved the piece and decided to invest in the original. The artist has a good reputation, but this is my first time buying an artwork.

I got a microscope to help see if it was printed or not. Can anyone help to know if this is printed with some paint on top? I want to be sure before I reach out to the artist.

u/SuggestionFuzzy6215 — 4 days ago

Unnamed but I’m thrilled!

Inherited from my father-in-law. 70” tall.
Suzanne Adèle Recordon / Suzanne Recordon-Randin

Swiss, Lausanne, 1881–1962
Large Art Nouveau decorative underwater panel, likely gouache or watercolor on paper, signed “S. Recordon,” inscribed “IIe Année,” probably c. 1899–1903.

u/CarrieNoir — 6 days ago

Alternatives to Packengers?

For post-auction pickup and shipping art from France to the US, has anyone found a reliable alternative to Packengers? Not interested in using Packengers again.

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u/5cj4881_dyh378 — 4 days ago