r/cellphones

Edit: Thanks a lot for all the helpful and insightful replies. I truly appreciate it. I upvoted all of you 🙏

I'm in the UK and I need to change my mobile plan and I saw a very good deal on the money saving expert website but the mobile plan uses esim.

I want to know the pros and cons of this as I never relied on esim as the main mobile sim, I've only used esim once for a one week trip. I also rely on using the phone as a hotspot a lot for work.

The esim deal is provided by idmobile that uses the Three network

A few prepaid carriers throw in free months if you pay twelve up front and on paper that looks like the obvious move. What I cannot tell is what happens if something changes, whether you get anything back, or whether you end up stuck on a tier that stopped suiting you by month three. Nobody seems to talk about the second half of the year. Has anyone done a full twelve up front and would you do it again?

Initially, I'm sorry if this post does not belong on the sub and accept it being taken down if that's the case.

On the first charge of a new phone (iPhone 17), I felt a subtle but uncomfortable shock on the bottom right side, where the phone wasn't covered by the case. It stayed like that for about 5 minutes before I noticed and disconnected the charger.

After that, I swapped the charger source for another one that I have at home (which was the one I meant to use in the first place, since the "shocking" one had been faulty) and while it heated during charging, the phone itself didn't. Also, the shocks were gone and the charging went on normally.

I checked the battery health and it remains at 100% and the battery seems to be working just fine, but I'm still worried that something might have gone awry with the battery. Should I be?

Now I'm not very tech savvy so I could seriously use some help. I have a phone that was given to me by my father. It's unlocked. I am trying to switch my service over to the new phone. I called and they said that there is an error with the phone's imei number or whatever. That the error has to do with the phone needing scanned I'm not really sure. Anyways. We call T-Mobile. They say that the phone should not have any issues being transferred over and I tell metro that but they say the phones imei number needs scanned what do I do. Can I go to metro and they take care of it all there?

I went to a local shop to get my hair cut today. The lady who was cutting hair next to where I was getting my hair cut was telling her customer about her cell phone woes.

Without boring everyone, is there anyone here who would want to help a lady with her Android cell phone woes?

I got in on the end of her story, but somehow HER photos (that she does NOT want to lose) have ended up on her mother's Android phone, and her (elderly) mother is locked out of her phone. Basically, her mother has forgotten what her password is to her phone. Her mother has it set to a WORD. (I'm used to iPhones where you use 4 or 6 numbers as a passcode, not a word.)

I suggested a few things, but I was of NO help once I found out that her (elderly) mother seems to not be able to remember what her password is on her phone.

Six months ago I bought a super cheap 4G smartphone and plan with a physical SIM so I could put the SIM in my router that I set to have the same IMEI as the smartphone. This is purely as a backup so that if something goes wrong with my main router SIM I can still have limited internet access. It worked great. I am going to do it again with a new router.

What I want to know is a model of smartphone with a physical SIM (dual SIMS would be even better) that is super popular, or maybe that was super popular a year or two ago. Something that pretty much every carrier sees a lot of. If it's something they made a lot of but is now being replaced with a newer model, there should be a lot of them available on the used market.

So, what physical SIM smartphone is/was the most popular?

My adult son with autism frequently loses his phone. What is the cheapest way locally to get a phone to add service to? A prepaid phone? In a metro area in US

So long story short I HATE my current phone plan. It's spotty, the customer service just refuses to listen, they change things without notifying me or my grandmother, and it's extremely expensive for what it offers 40gb of 4g data with unlimited talk and text.

I saw that visible is only $25 a month for unlimited talk text and data at 5g. We've been thinking about switching for a while and initially planned on going with cox mobile but that would require us to get new phones from cox which isn't in the budget. We'd still need new phones but I'm pretty sure it would be much cheaper regardless.

So is it a good service or is it worth it the biggest complaint I've seen was just about the customer service but I can live with that at this point as long as I can use my phone reliably and it's much cheaper then now at almost $40 a month for each phone.

Hi I know in this economy this might seem like a big ask but I need a phone any phone in the perfect world I want an iPhone but that might not happen nobody probably will even see this but I'm starting college soon and I have no device it's not fair (I'm started college wayyy earlier then I should btw) so my parents run my life and have say over everything I do legally but I need a phone I have nothing rn I'm using a borrowed laptop while they are away but basically I had a phone but then my entire life got taken away from me because I liked a girl. In my house you can be the worst of the absolute worst and you'll get accepted before a gay person does, I'm a decent person im not the best of the best but im not the worst of the worst im respectful, I have manners, I'm kind when I can be a decent person but still I get treated like a dog because I liked a girl. I have no phone, no friends nothing, I barely have social media I just remember the accounts that I had before everything got taken away. I don't even go to school they homeschooled me so I wouldn't be around girls I haven't been out or hung around other people besides my family since the 3rd grade if I leave the house, it's with my family to go do family stuff like watch my brother play football. if anyone sees this if you have a old phone or device I can use please please respond thank you.

I forgot to metion laptops work as well I do need a school laptop so if anyone has one of those that could work.

I’m in Austin, and I currently use AT&T for about 15 phones for my business. I really, really like the convenience of walking into a store and getting immediate help. My phone plan is out of control price wise, and I’ve found that when I walk into an AT&T store with a business account, they just literally tell me to a call a number. I usually make them call, because I’m in the store after already calling that number and getting no help. The customer service/support on the phone is all outsourced overseas nonsense that never help or solve my problems. The employees have literally told me they are all sales people, and so are most of the people on the phone. Once you have a plan, they don’t care about aftercare. My phone plan is also extremely expensive ($600/mo). Who should I switch to, prioritizing in person customer service and support, and good cell phone service in the Austin, TX area? I would really like input with personal experience in my area. I am not paying anything off (I buy the phones outright and refurbished from another business).

The Full Circle of My 333 Prefix: Confessions of a 2000s Mobile Telecom "Hacker"
There is a small detail on my iPhone 13 screen that means more to me than any technical specification: the TIM carrier logo sitting right next to my original phone number starting with 333.
To anyone else, it’s just a random sequence of digits. To me, it represents a 26-year time-travel journey—a nostalgic circle that has finally closed in the most satisfying way possible.
It all started in the summer of 2000. I was 14 years old with no internet connection, no computer, and no online forums to consult. All I had was a legendary, indestructibleb blu-monochrome Nokia 3210, my hands on its rubber keypad, and an overwhelming curiosity to figure out how things worked under the hood.
Back then, mobile telephony in Italy was in its wild west phase. TIM offered a base plan called Autoricarica 190—designed to make users spend money, but possessing a massive logical loophole when combined with their limited-time summer promos. Analyzing the rules entirely on my own, I discovered the "loophole": I activated the Summer Edition promo (which gave you unlimited SMS for a small flat fee) and started running my own text and missed-call routine.
My tactic was as simple as it was devious: I’d call random TIM numbers, let them ring once, and wait for people to call back out of curiosity. Once they picked up, I did everything in my power to keep them on the phone as long as possible—inventing excuses, wrong-number small talk, or random stories—just to rack up incoming call minutes. Reaching 100 incoming minutes unlocked the maximum auto-top-up bonus on my plan.
The result? I spent 5,000 Italian Lire on the summer promo and ended up with 100,000 Lire of free credit sitting on my Nokia display. For a 14-year-old in the year 2000, checking my balance via ⁠*123#⁠ and seeing a six-figure sum felt like holding a chest of gold. It was the ultimate victory of logic over the system.
I kept that plan active for nearly a decade. Eventually, around 2008, the carrier patched the exploits, capped the bonuses, and prices began to creep up. I finally left TIM carrying a half-wrecked Siemens M-series phone (the one with the iconic rubberized keypad guard) after years of heavy use. I said goodbye to the network and began a 15-year journey across various competitors, always carrying that original 333 prefix—a badge of honor from the 90s GSM era—wherever I went.
Now, the story has closed with a poetic twist.
I just switched back to TIM through a hyper-competitive win-back offer: 201 GB in 5G for just €4.99 a month, which I now use to power my home Wi-Fi router. No more missed-call tricks to farm incoming minutes, no more calculating SMS costs down to the cent.
Looking at my iPhone 13 today, connected to 5G under the exact same 333 number I used in the summer of 2000, brings a huge smile to my face. It reminds me of an irreplaceable era when all you needed was a monochrome screen, a rubber keypad, and a bit of ingenuity to feel like you owned the world. Everything is finally back where it belongs.

Android o IPhone ???

Cerco aiuto, qualche giorno fa ho rotto il mio iPhone 14 e adesso mi ritrovo ad affrontare una domanda perversa iPhone o Android(Samsung).

Ho un budget che si aggira intorno ai 700 euro, AIUTO.

From my understanding, you can SIM swap (which most modern smartphones don’t have physical SIM cards) or call forward…but only if you have another number to forward it to
Any other options that would be easier?

My full report on "mind control"/"mind guidance" thru cellphones, SIM cards, and debit card chips:

I have been testing cellphones on myself for eight years now, specifically to test the mind control effects and what they do, I thought it was the most fascinating thing in the world. I got into the smartphone game late, preferring to keep a cheap basic cellphone until 2017, when I reluctantly waded into the smartphone market, starting small at first. Before that, I got my first cellphone in 2005, going on Net10 Wireless, thinking it was related to Sprint, being 10 cents a minute. When I learned in 2016 that Net10 Wireless was a subsidiary of TracFone Wireless, which was based in Mexico, I was very upset knowing that a company based in Mexico could theoretically be listening to my phone calls. I then considered AT&T or Verizon. In hindsight, they both would have been huge mistakes also. I'll get right to it, what I've learned from this testing cellphones on myself. All cellphones are mind control, even having only a SIM card from a carrier has substantial mind control effects, effects you may not want. And even a debit card chip has mind control effects, as I also had problems with certain bank debit card chips and credit card chips, which would stop after cutting the chip out of the debit card and snapping it in half and burning it. But, as with anything, mind control could also be a good thing if the company was good. That being said, I'll just jump right to it, then I'll get into the specifics, like the specific things that happened. T-Mobile locked Apple devices on the T-Mobile network seem not only safe, but very fun, we discuss alot of things together, it helps me remember stuff, and I actually like it alot when its this way, the behavior modification helps me do alot of good things that maybe I wouldn't of done otherwise. So, T-Mobile is the only company I forgot to complain about when actually complaining to the FCC about mind control, when I remembered this I was embarrassed, I literally thought I forgot them, but then I realized it was that I had nothing bad to actually report about them, they were doing GOOD things thru it. That having been said, T-Mobile locked Apple devices on the T-Mobile network is a slim margin of safety. That means that only one of the five main networks in the USA are safe, and only on T-Mobile original Apple only devices (I've specifically been told by customer service that a Sprint iPhone on the T-Mobile network is NOT the same as a T-Mobile phone on the T-Mobile network, and this is my personal finding as well. Since T-Mobile bought Sprint, any Sprint phone will automatically work on the T-Mobile network, but Sprint devices on the T-Mobile network created fear, unreasonable fear, of anything, T-Mobile devices on the T-Mobile network didn't do this). An unlocked Verizon 5G Apple iPhone 13 on the T-Mobile network was a disaster, it kept causing sharp anxiety pains in my chest, but at regular intervals, like an algorithm would do, about every five to twenty seconds, until I had enough and broke it, then that phenomenon immediately stopped. To successfully make the phenomenon STOP ALL THE WAY, you need to smash every chip on both sides of the circuit board, and I mean smash each chip to dust, or at least mostly to dust. To do that, start by holding the cellphone sideways and splitting it open with a big enough rock, then tearing it in half to get to the circuit board, then tear out the battery VERY CAREFULLY AND TOSS IT ONTO OPEN PAVEMENT WHERE NOTHING WILL GET DAMAGED IF IT CATCHES ON FIRE (you MUST do this part VERY QUICKLY, because I broke a Samsung AT&T phone in half once and IT ACTUALLY CAUGHT ON FIRE, I had to toss it into a cardboard box and run outside to put it safely in the driveway), then you tear the circuit board out, even if it breaks into pieces, tear the circuit board out and smash every chip on the circuit board, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CIRCUIT BOARD, and on every piece of circuit board, if it broke into pieces. If the circuit board won't come out just start smashing every chip on the circuit board anyways, eventually it'll be broken enough to tear out because you need to smash every chip on BOTH SIDES of the circuit board to make the phenomenon stop ALL THE WAY. And by the way, I came to these findings on accident, like by ordering a Verizon device, then watching my life fall apart and everything go wrong on me all the time, petty little things like a zipper getting stuck, but petty little things ALL THE TIME. Then in desperation I would remember that the phenomenon started when I ordered the Verizon device. I would return the Verizon device and then noticed that the phenomenon would stop. It has happened with AT&T, Boost Mobile, US Cellular, and Verizon. 4/5 of the main cellphone networks. T-Mobile is the network that I have nothing bad to report, and it seems they actually use it to do good things, but thats only if its a T-Mobile locked Apple device on the T-Mobile network. A Verizon unlocked iPhone on the T-Mobile network was also bad, but not nearly as bad as a Verizon iPhone on the Verizon network. Let me try to get right to the point, Verizon is the worst by far, physically dangerous even. AT&T is the second worst, sort of almost as bad as Verizon. Then US Cellular is also bad, almost as bad as AT&T. Boost Mobile was much less worse than any of those, but still bad on several fronts. So, Verizon is PHYSICALLY DANGEROUS meaning that you could incur injuries, possible severe, from them. Verizon is the only cellphone network that would use mind control to cause you to injury yourself, usually only a petty injury, but still sharp pain, and they would do it to get your attention, or to make you angry and then pilot the angry energy around. Let me tell you a little about this. So, each cellphone network connects to a certain "chakra" on the body. Chakras are energy vectors on the body, seem to be related to the spirit, and do certain things. Look up "chakras" on Wikipedia to learn what the chakras are as I'm trying to keep this on topic, I have alot to write as it is. So lets get right down to it, Verizon connects to the root chakra, and the root chakra seems to be involved in the reptilian brain, is activated when there is pain or sexual arosal, hunger or thirst, eating shitting sleeping and sexuality (seem to be the four main root chakra things, but it also represents the body, and the physical material realm, different from the astral realm), so the root chakra is our primal animal related things. So pain activates the root chakra AND the reptilian brain, but I think those two things are linked, pain and the reptilian brain. So Verizon would make you injury yourself, or even create sharp pains spontaneously from nothing, and those pains would come with a message of something to do or a point they would make mentally to you, they would make you think of something immediately after. So Verizon would either cause pain/make you injury yourself as to activate the root chakra because thats the chakra of the body that they connect to, or they would do it to make you angry to pilot the anger around, because anger is a root chakra energy (anger might be related to survival) and Verizon uses the root chakra. And the root chakra element is earth. Also, the element of Verizon is EARTH, earth element, and there are six elements if you combine the Greek system and the Chinese system most of them overlapping; metal, earth, water, wood, air, fire (in ascending order of density). Next up the chakras from the root chakra, lets go by chakras. Boost Mobile (was Sprint, but these are all separate TECHNOLOGIES, and they can "bend" physical reality, and from what I've seen, even change physical reality itself, which points to the world being a system, like the matrix) Boost Mobile connects to TWO chakras, to the naval chakra (the naval chakra element is WATER) and to the solar plexus chakra (the element of the solar plexus chakra is fire, and TWO VERSIONS of fire, the first version of fire "electromagnetism" and the third version of fire "heat" or "oscillation" as in the regular fire of a campfire). Boost Mobile wasn't nearly as bad as Verizon, AT&T, or US Cellular, but still had several problems. AND, the Sprint technology which later became Boost Mobile is related to law enforcement and the courts, like when I first got a Sprint WiMAX phone and all of a sudden I wanted to know about everybody else's legalities when I was at the store or in public, anything they were doing that was illegal, and I wasn't doing that before I got the device and activated it, and that particular phenomenon stopped after I disconnected service, deleted the account, and destroyed the device. Let me get right to the main things that cellphones do; behavior modification (you will seem like a completely different person, but you may not be aware of it, both because they don't want you to know, and because you may not notice it yourself, but I realized it because I didn't recognize myself anymore and remembered that it started when purchasing a device, or even only SIM cards from a carrier), so behavior modification, involuntary movements (such as not being able to speak, blurting out words accidently, saying the wrong word, jerks and jolts and such like twitching, but with a purpose like to make you bump into something or spill something to the purpose of getting you to stop thinking of something they don't like or stop you from doing something they don't like), so involuntary movements, phantom sensations (like knee sensations of kneeling even when you are standing, which is specifically a Verizon phenomenon, and it involves when they want you to do something and need to "stand over you" or more accurately they want you to stand under them, thus the sensation of kneeling, so they can make you do something in particular) so phantom sensations, "bending" physical reality (NOT JOKING, everytime I put my Sprint locked iPhone 4S on an AT&T apn, Access Point Name, the sun would come out and the clouds would disappear, the rain would stop, the weather would get better, and I changed the APN alot, very many times. So AT&T controls the weather? Seems as such. So AT&T bends air and wood elements and can manipulate birds and insects (but ANY iPhone also seems to be able to manipulate birds). Samsung also manipulates insects, specifically flies, the common housefly) so bending physical reality, and then the worse part, changing physical reality itself, and this seems to point to the world being a system like the matrix, I'M NOT JOKING. I had an unlocked Verizon Blackberry Z30 device, and one day I walked past a shopping cart that was only a few feet away, then a few seconds later looked back and it was gone, nobody around, many cars driving around but nobody stopped, and I mean only a few feet away and a few seconds later looked back and it was gone, and I don't have such hallucinations, nor does my family have a history of such hallucinations. Worse than that, and this proves the altering physical reality part; when I was in jail, I asked somebody on the outside to put my US Cellular sim card in my unlocked Verizon Blackberry Z30 phone. The next morning I awoke and there was a big two inch wide burn mark in the concrete of the bed in the jail cell, and when I poured water from the sink onto the burn mark to try to wash it off, the water evaporated or disappeared from on the burn mark IN ONLY A FEW SECONDS, but NOT from around the burn mark, where the water was still there in a circle, and it happened over and over and over again, many times in a row, to my astonishment, AND I DON'T HAVE SUCH HALLUCINATIONS, and my family doesn't have a history of such hallucinations either. Then I cursed the burn mark alot with my intentions/thoughts, saying that I didn't want it to happen, that I was against it, and a few minutes later I poured water on the burn mark again, trying to wash it off, and the water stopped disappearing from on the burn mark. VERY weird, and its even weirder that my input, cursing the burn mark that I was against it that I didn't want it to happen, my input ALTERED what was happening, so that points to our intentions actually having a physical effect on the world (like the group of Buddhist monks getting together by a polluted river to meditate to try to make the river cleaner, and supposedly after about twenty minutes the river actually became clearer, so they say anyways. Or that "Masaru Emoto water experiment" where they would think intentions into water, freeze the water, shine a light thru the water, and different geometric shapes would appear). Not only this stuff, but the environment would change depending on what cellphone equipment I had, once I had Verizon and all of a sudden there were all these big lifted monster trucks with loud mufflers and big wheels always driving around me, making aggressive deep muffler "gurgle truck" sounds, as I call them. Then I got rid of the Verizon equipment (returning it all or completely destroying it all, down to snapping in half and burning the SIM cards and calling Verizon and having the account completely deleted) and then I went to AT&T and all of a sudden the "gurgle truck" phenomenon stopped and it was "swishy swishy" car sounds always around me. Different people would show up around me depending on what network I had. From big fat rednecks from Verizon to clean cut business-like people from AT&T (such phenomenon points to the world being a system). There were certain people from Sprint either, or US Cellular. Also, having any Samsung phone from any network always resulted in "race car" muffler sounds talking to me telling me to do things or making some point or another mentally, like putting certain thoughts into your head, which didn't happen before getting the Samsung phone and stopped after getting rid of all Samsung equipment. The worst platform was Google Pixel, which actually tried to erase certain memories they didnt like, such as the burn mark incident in the jail, a memory which they tried to eliminate and it took me like a whole three months to get the memory back (because it was a glitch in the system. Right?). The only other time cellphone mind control has tried to erase memories was when my US Cellular sim card was in an unlocked Verizon Blackberry Z30 phone, they didn't like certain things either. Verizon also utilizes something I call "movement control" meaning they can make you move or keep you from moving, more so than other companies involving involuntary movements, it seems to be based on an element "bending" technology related to the root chakra or the earth element or both. AT&T utilizes "air bending" technology that seems to be able to control the weather, as every time I changed my Sprint locked iPhone 4S apn, Access Point Name, to AT&T, the weather would become good, the rain would stop, the sun would come out, and I mean EVERYTIME, and I did this hundreds of times! Also, AT&T seems to connect to TWO chakras, the heart chakra (the heart chakra element is AIR) and the throat chakra (the throat chakra element is WOOD). US Cellular connects to the "third eye" chakra, and the third eye chakra element is the second version of fire known as photonic light, radiation, light, the second version of fire, like the light we see with our eyes is also a version of fire, and there are three versions, the first version of fire is electromagnetism, as electricity is a version of fire and magnetism and electricity were lumped into the same force, electromagnetism. Also, all iPhones and iPads connect to the third eye chakra and somehow involve controlling radiation. iPhones and iPads are stronger mind control than non-Apple devices, but are better because they respect you alot more, and they always know what you want and try to do it/give it to you (but thats confirmed only IF they are original T-Mobile iPhones and on the T-Mobile network), depending on the original network of the device because the network might be an asshole network like Verizon or AT&T or US Cellular in which case they are trying to do what the network wants, not what you want. Google even once told me thru the mind that it "didn't care what I wanted". Also, my behavior seemed to get rude the last time I tested Samsung (a Google Android device) on myself, and Apple devices made my behavior better (but only confirmed IF both T-Mobile locked AND on the T-Mobile network). So Google Pixel devices were a disaster, even T-Mobile locked and on the T-Mobile network. The Google Pixel 6 didn't try to erase memories it didn't like, THAT phenomenon didn't start until I also got the Google Pixel 7a, two of them, both also T-Mobile locked and on the T-Mobile network. This is important because the Google "Tensor" chip started in the Google Pixel 6, but the Tensor chip development went in stages, first Google only designed the CPU in the Google Pixel 6 Tensor chip, not the GPU or the "back end" of the chip, then in the Google Pixel 7a they also designed the GPU. So I returned the two Google Pixel 7a phones and they stopped trying to erase memories they didn't like. So that points to the mechanism of trying to erase memories being in the GPU of the Tensor chip. After getting rid of the Google Pixel devices and getting a T-mobile locked iPhone on the T-Mobile network again, things started getting better, then for some reason I got a Google Pixel 8 T-Mobile locked and on the T-Mobile network and the phenomenon involving it trying to erase memories started again, then I got rid of the Google Pixel 8 and that phenomenon stopped again. So it points to the erasing memories phenomenon being related to the GPU in the Tensor chip, since that phenomenon didn't happen when I had the Google Pixel 6 T-Mobile locked and on the T-Mobile network. Also what happened when having three Google Pixel 5G phones and no iPhone was that the behavior modification from the Google Pixel phones made me run thru traffic without looking either way when I had to go somewhere real quick, THEN they made me do it again a second time coming back to get my stuff, and I ALWAYS look both ways before crossing the street. So there I was running thru two lanes of traffic without looking either way both times, AND I ALWAYS LOOK BOTH WAYS BEFORE CROSSING THE STREET, its literally a miracle I didn't get hit. Running thru two lanes of traffic without looking either way both times, maybe once without getting hit would be lucky BUT TWICE IS A MIRACLE. AT&T also ran me thru two lanes of traffic once without looking, but both lanes of traffic were going the same direction that time and luckily both cars stopped and I didn't get hit. I'm serious about this. Mind control from cellphones could get you killed (but death is a return to the spirit world, and you probably just go dreaming for awhile, like at night when you sleep, because the dreamworld of nighttime LITERALLY IS THE SPIRIT WORLD, then after death and going dreaming for awhile you probably just wake up in a new body in a new lifetime as a child again, probably at the point of your first memory. You DO have a first memory, right? I do). And I'm also serious about the thing that all this points to the world being a system like the matrix, and that would probably mean that the cellphone mind control phenomenon is part of how the "machines" interact with us, and its mostly a bad thing. So my best advise is to get a T-Mobile locked Apple device and go on the T-mobile network, AND TO GET RID OF all your old cellphone equipment (I've confirmed that selling a cellphone device on Facebook Marketplace DOES MAKE the phenomenon stop, immediately even, because its not your's anymore, technically. AND BY THE WAY, ALL CELLULAR DEVICES seem to do the mind control phenomenon, could be a cellular tablet or even a cellular hotspot), and I mean getting rid of all old cellular equipment including breaking AND burning the old SIM cards, just snap the SIM card in half at first, then wrap it in the end of a paper receipt, twisting it up tight like a stick, and then use a lighter to burn the end of the twisted up paper receipt "stick" that has the broken SIM card in the end of it, and BE SURE to keep the lighter flame ON the whole time, and DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH WHERE THE SIM CARD IS twisted up at the end of the tightly twisted up receipt "stick", it takes about twenty seconds of this to completely inactivate a SIM card chip, the plastic of the SIM card chip will catch fire too, that helps, its the heat that changes the properties of metal, thats how this works, and I've confirmed many times that it does work. Because I snapped three Sprint SIM cards in half once and left them in a pile of garbage but the Sprint phenomenon didn't stop, so I went back and burned all three Sprint SIM cards this way and the Sprint phenomenon immediately stopped, finally. Also, go so far as to grind the ashes of the burnt SIM card into dust with your shoe/foot. Sprint was "pinging the ground" that time, when it would randomly and spontaneously feel like the whole ground around me was hit with something, and it would come with a message like something to do or making some point to you mentally. My biggest question is how cellphone technology could possibly change the physical world. But what does that matter if the phenomenon is happening right in front of you, and keeps happening, and doesn't stop until you return the cellphone equipment to the vendor or destroy it or sell it on Facebook marketplace (I've confirmed several times that selling devices on Facebook Marketplace makes the phenomenon stop, immediately even) but don't sell the device to somebody you know or give it away because I've seen that the phenomenon doesn't stop then, because I guess then "the system" doesn't know that and thinks its still your's, or whatever reason but that doesn't seem to work. Also don't lose SIM cards, as they are very small, and since I've lost three Verizon SIM cards, the Verizon phenomenon seems to have  NEVER stopped since then, and I've been very upset about it. And it doesn't matter if the SIM cards aren't activated, they still work in the cellphone mind control arena even if unactivated, but the effect is much stronger when activated. The cellphones themselves also still do mind control even if unactivated, even if there is no SIM card in them, and worse; EVEN IF THERE IS NO BATTERY IN THEM (I've confirmed this, I had three Sprint phones and took the batteries out and put them in a faraday cage that blocks all radiation and the Sprint phenomenon kept on going, then I came back and broke all three Sprint devices but that time I only broke the circuit boards into a few pieces, chips intact on the circuit board, and the Sprint phenomenon kept on going, then I came back and actually used a rock to smash all the chips on both sides of the circuit boards of all three Sprint devices and then finally the Sprint phenomenon stopped). So if you need to destroy a cellphone so the phenomenon stops, use a rock and first hold the device sideways to the ground, so you can crack it open, then pry it apart and first remove the battery, BE VERY CAREFUL because batteries are dangerous (also be very careful anyways, because when I had to break apart a Huawei smartphone to destroy it, IT SEEMED TO BE DESIGNED TO CUT YOUR HANDS IF YOU BROKE IT, in any common way like snapping it in half, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF METAL EXTENSIONS THAT JUST BARELY MISSED MY HANDS and seemed like they would have seriously cut me if I did it wrong, and I had to destroy a few Huawei smartphones, THE METAL EXTENSIONS DESIGN WAS IN ALL THREE OF THEM, it was obviously designed to hurt whoever tried to destroy them). So be very careful, and especially about the battery, just try to be quick when removing the battery (but not quick about the rest of destroying the device, be VERY CAREFUL destroying the rest of the device, so you don't injure yourself), but make sure not to bend the battery much and certainly don't puncture the battery, batteries can explode and/or catch fire, so do it OUTSIDE, then throw the battery to an area that won't matter if the battery catches on fire, then get to the circuit board of the phone and pry that out, then hold it flat to the ground and use a rock to smash all the chips on the circuit board, somewhat gently but still hard enough, as they crumble quite easily, the point is to destroy the chips on the circuit board to the point of being almost dust, NOT SIMPLY INTO A FEW PIECES, and I mean EVERY EVERY EVERY CHIP, then the phenomenon stops, immediately even. I've done it several times, MANY TIMES EVEN. It's been almost a decade of testing cellular device mind control on myself, a literal case of "curiosity killed the cat" but I'm done testing mind control on myself. Thats why I'm writing this, BECAUSE YOU DESERVE TO KNOW. And its not been easy to write this, especially as long as it is, because the mind control doesn't want me to, common distractions increased ALOT, VERY MUCH SO, since deciding to write this, then I almost forgot to post it. Before, I told them I wouldn't write anything about it because it would unnecessarily scare people, and if the bad parts of the cellphone mind control phenomenon stopped, then I wouldn't need to write anything because it wouldn't be an ongoing injury. Mostly psychologically an injury, or petty little physical injuries, but they seem to have caused some more serious injuries, one incident I know for sure, because they didn't like what I was jacking off to (they seem to harass bisexuality) and it was my jack off hand that was injured badly, and by badly I mean that so much blood was lost and blood pressure lost that I almost lost consciousness, having to change strategies from destroying cellphone mind control equipment to quickly bandaging my hand. It was an AT&T SIM card in an unlocked Verizon 4G Chromebook laptop. What happened was things were going relatively fine before this, but then when jacking off the cellphone mind control phenomenon started up again, petty distractions that would try to divert you from achieving an orgasm, or shifting body position slightly and "accidentally" bumping into things that would startle you, but it would happen EVERY TIME you were starting to make progress towards an orgasm, at such a rate and so frequently as to KNOW FOR SURE that it wasn't accidents, something was doing it deliberately, and they've harassed my jacking off MANY TIMES before this, and since. Because I've lost cellular device equipment along the way and my life seems to have become an absolute NIGHTMARE of cellphone mind control STACKING UP ON EACHOTHER, Verizon (lost three SIM cards in a stolen backpack) and AT&T (sold a device the wrong way, to somebody I know for cheap to make the phenomenon stop but it seems that didn't work) and Boost Mobile (lost a SIM card and possibly sold a device the wrong way, on eBay to somebody who didn't even pay but I sent it off anyways to make the phenomenon stop but it seems that it didn't work) and Samsung (sold a device the wrong way, to somebody I know for cheap to make the phenomenon stop but it seems that didn't work, then I also purchased another Samsung device FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, big mistake) AND Google Pixel (lost a broken Google Pixel 6 WITH A SIM CARD STILL IN IT, big mistake there either), so don't lose cellphone equipment because then I'm not sure if it stops, EVER. So theres the cellphone mind control phenomenon of Verizon and AT&T and Boost Mobile AND Samsung AND Google Pixel ALL STACKING UP ON EACHOTHER, what a nightmare it has been. Also, I've seen the cellphone mind control phenomenon start BEFORE the purchased cellphones arrived, including hours after purchasing devices on eBay, and even a separate time IMMEDIATELY after clicking the final pay button. Again, for eight years I've tested cellphones on myself specifically as mind control devices to see what they do and how they modify behavior, and its been a disaster. Verizon was so bad I got arrested several times. Thats how bad it was. Then I went AT&T and ALMOST got arrested several times. Also, I've talked to several other people that were afraid of iPhones, one person said they "had a bad iPhone experience" and will never have an iPhone again, they said they got arrested also, because of the phone screwing up their behavior. I asked them "what network?" and they said "Verizon" and I think that was their actual problem, but it would of been similarly bad if it was AT&T, in my experience (the cellphone mind control is likely trying to "sift thru society" or something, such as trying to get certain people in trouble, like in jail or even killed). I absolutely hate Verizon, AT&T, and US Cellular, as each has had very bad effects on my life. And I don't like Boost Mobile either even though it wasn't nearly as bad as Verizon, AT&T, or US Cellular, but bad things still happened from Boost Mobile either. Like I had nightmares involving PHYSICAL PAIN when I was on Boost Mobile, and that never happened before, so I called Boost Mobile and had the account deleted, had the Boost Mobile SIM cards broken and burned, and destroyed the two Boost Mobile locked iPhone SE3 phones I had, and I haven't had another dream involving physical pain since. This CAUSE AND EFFECT of weird phenomenon that didn't happen before having a certain cellphone network or it's equipment is UNDENIABLE in my opinion, because its happened OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN thru a period of eight years, AND IT HAS CONSISTENTLY HAPPENED IN A SPECIFIC PATTERN, like when I had six Verizon phone numbers in a year once, because everything would start going wrong on me THE DAY I GOT VERIZON or ordered any of it's equipment, and things WOULD STOP going wrong on me the day after I got rid of the Verizon equipment, called them and had the account deleted, and broke and burned the Verizon SIM cards. So I should also tell you about that, to make the phenomenon stop ALL THE WAY you will also need to call the cellphone network and have the account deleted, which is instant if Verizon, takes about a week or until the next billing cycle if Boost Mobile, but AT&T will keep your account for 90 days if the account hasn't paid over a certain amount ever on the account AND FOR 365 DAYS if you've paid over a certain amount on the account ever. Like I said, this all points to the world being a system like the matrix. How else could it be that having a US Cellular sim card put in a Verizon Blackberry Z30 cellphone, and the next day there is a two inch wide BURN MARK in the concrete bed of the jail cell I was in? And how the heck anyways could water evaporate/disappear IN SECONDS from the burn mark, but not from around the burn mark, leaving a weird circle of water in a circle around a DRY two inch wide burn mark in the center of it, where there was no water anymore but there just was water there a few seconds ago. I've since been in the same jail cellblock that I was in when the unexplainable burn mark happened and I asked the guy that was in the same exact jail cell that I was in when the unexplainable burn mark happened, I described the unexplainable burn mark and asked him if it was still there, HE SAID THAT THE UNEXPLAINABLE BURN MARK WAS STILL THERE, so the unexplainable burn mark was NOT a hallucination. THE WORLD IS A SYSTEM AND THAT PROVES IT, to me at least. Also, I've seen another thing pointing to the world being a system, like the people you know are just roles in your life, almost like a TV show, because I ordered a cellphone for myself once, and then a person I know, their behavior changed the night of ordering the device and it wasn't even shipped yet, but the cellphone was still technically mine because I already paid for it, and that matches the phenomenon of the cellphone return delay problem, when I would return a cellphone to the vendor (like on eBay) but the cellphone mind control phenomenon wouldn't stop while in the process of shipping the device back UNTIL THE MONEY WAS REFUNDED and the device wasn't technically mine anymore. The thing is, the person's behavior changed like back to the way they were when they were on AT&T, and the device I ordered was an AT&T iPhone 6. So how could ordering a cellphone not only change my behavior but also someone I know, and change their behavior back to the way like they were when they were on the same network as the cellphone I ordered? That difference was unmistakable and accurate, same exact behavior with several keynotes I could tell you about that proves it but I won't, because of privacy reasons. I'm sorry about whatever situation you are in, but consider for a moment that some of the problems in your life might be from the cellphone network you have and/or the device platform you have (like Android or iPhone). If you want to be safe about it, just get T-Mobile locked Apple devices on the T-Mobile network, AND get rid of your old cellphone equipment, including calling the cellphone network carrier and having the entire account deleted. Also, the Verizon iPhone SE3 phenomenon didn't stop the same day I shipped the cellphone back, but it significantly reduced when I filed the return order, reduced about in half, but didn't completely stop the whole three weeks I had to wait for the cellphone to be returned and it only stopped when the cellphone was completely returned, the money was refunded, and the returned cellphone wasn't technically mine anymore. Giving away cellphones also doesn't seem to make them stop. You have to return them, sell them on Facebook marketplace (eBay might also work if you include the IMEI number, but I can't confirm that, so I wouldn't go that route if you want to be absolutely sure that the cellphone mind control phenomenon stops), or destroy the phone completely down to smashing ALL THE CHIPS on both sides the circuit board. And about the SIM cards, you have to snap the SIM card in half at first, then wrap it in the end of a paper receipt, twisting the end of the paper receipt tight to hold it securely and keep twisting the paper receipt tightly until it becomes almost like a stick, and then use a lighter to burn the end of the twisted up paper receipt "stick", and BE SURE to keep the LIGHTER FLAME ON the whole time and the flame directly underneath where the SIM card is, as heat rises and you need to add that heat to it to have enough heat to make the plastic of the SIM card catch fire, then still try to keep the flame on and under the SIM card, it takes about twenty to thirty seconds of doing this to completely inactivate the SIM card, the plastic in the SIM card will catch fire too, YOU NEED THAT EXTRA HEAT, because heat that changes the properties of metal, thats how this works, and I've confirmed many times that it does work. Then even go so far as to grind the ashes of the burnt SIM card to dust, just to be sure. Also, I've purchased merely one SIM card from a cellphone carrier based in Australia and then immediately upon receiving it, the Australian SIM card still in the wrapping and it stayed that way, THE WEATHER ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAME HOT, and VERY hot and VERY sunny, just like like Australia, for quite awhile actually, several weeks perhaps, and the weather stayed that way until I snapped the Australian SIM card in half and burned it. Also, cellphones and cellphone companies/network carriers seem to be able to read your thoughts and feelings and sense intentions (and this is even if you just own a SIM card from them and its not in a phone and you don't have an account with them, the mind control STILL seems to work), like when I go to do something that is against Verizon and they try to get in the way, trying to prevent it, this happened ALOT, MANY MANY MANY TIMES, I think it happened absolutely EVERY time I went to do something against them, actually. It sucks real bad to try to fight Verizon off, because they are the fastest latency network, like how fast it takes a cellphone network to send and receive information, Verizon is the fastest, then AT&T by a close margin, then T-Mobile is third fastest but not by a close margin at all, then Boost Mobile (formerly Sprint) is fourth. But theoretically, and I believe this, cellphone mind control technology CANNOT read your memories unless they coerce you into remembering something, and then it would be only that memory. I think how they can sense thoughts and feelings is thru what I call bio-radiation. I believe that we radiate our thoughts and feelings thru radiation emitted by our DNA, literally whats called "vibes" and DNA both sends and receives radiation, and thats the nature of the mind control. But then theres the instance of the cellphone phenomenon causing a two inch wide burn mark on a closed jail cell (and it was directly underneath my head on the concrete of the jail bed, I would wake up if anybody came in trying to get underneath my head), and that points to the world being a system, of which it wouldn't matter how the cellphones affected our behavior, like if its thru the DNA or however the mechanism. If cellphones can alter physical reality, like the windows turning into a brick wall as seen in the first matrix movie, then what does it matter how they influence us? Everything would seem screwed then. But I would still want the system of reality to continue, I would just want it to be better, I would want it to be a better system, I would want the world to be a place of harmony and beauty, where its all giggles instead of terrifying screams, benevolent smiles instead of painful tears crying, and everybody was happy and kind to eachother. Isn't that possible? system? If you're reading this, please do consider making the world a perfect beautiful harmony, I would sure like it, I would like it very much indeed....

Like the title says, was wondering if anyone had two phones on not for work? Im considering turning on a cheap phone so when I want to disconnect and turn my phone off I still have a phone to browse, game, and use just in case of emergencies.