r/deism

I know Christian Deists exists, are there any Buddhist Deists?

Capitalism is a coldhearted broken system built by a handful of people to enslave the many through the illusion of limited scarcity of basic resources & thus creates population control.

Capitalism is great when there’s no survival requirement.

Capitalism is dog shit when there’s a survival requirement.

What is ridiculous about so many religious zealots / pastors / preachers / imams / “prophets” is that they often talk about how God is going to bless your family financially, help you prosper, help you impact the world with your business.

What they’re missing is capitalism is archaic, rudimentary, and a sick suppressive system that enslaves approximately 90% of the population, daily.

Fathers can’t spend enough quality time with their children.

Mothers can’t effectively support a family, child rear, turn a house into a home, while taking on the extra burden of building an empire.

Even part time work in a capitalistic system for most is exhausting.

Lovers are too exhausted to meet, connect, embrace, or live a romantic fulfilling life.

It literally murders people’s dreams “doing the right thing” trying to feed their families.

This world is sick. Capitalism with a survival requirement is horse shit.

Governments don’t love people: they want to control people.

“You are ‘free’ to start a business or work for one. If your business fails, and statistically 90% do, and no one hires you, you will be homeless your children will suffer and starve. Welcome to our country!” What kind of sick system even is that?

If God was such a great effective caring God who would want to “bless and put money” in a few of his stressed out exhausted struggling rat race children’s pockets (meanwhile 200,000 die of starvation statistically in other societies), wouldn’t it make sense this God would actually abolish the slavery capitalistic system and replace it with something much, much, much, much, much better and greater that flourishes and liberates every single human man, woman, and child?

Then they could love, create, support, rest, have peace, fluorish. Life would be beautiful for everyone.

Nope. God doesn’t care about that. Just putting an extra $500/mo in little Timmy’s pocket from the “blessing” of his new job or “blessed” him with the idea for his new Etsy devotional scripture coloring daily journal PDF business.

It’s honestly ridiculous that any Omnipotent Omniscient being would allow such a horrific suppressive sickening system to exist. Let alone “help” people trapped dying in it globally.

God didn’t free the slaves in America. Abraham Lincoln and a few others who had a heart and Deist views, did.

Unfortunately, the modern governments are so suppressive, corrupt, horrible, and gross, and God doesn’t lift a finger to help relieve it.

I digress.

This, assuming that no revealed scripture is to be trusted on this matter.

I was thinking it's quite conceivable that He is disgusted at being worshipped.

Hey everyone.

Born in a muslim house,family doesn’t accept other religions.

But im not a muslim anymore.

My family is kinda forcing me,I just don’t talk to them about my beliefs.

I feel close to deism. I also believe that there is a creator. But religions sound so man-made.

I want to learn more. Please help :)

Hi, everyone,

This is one thing that nags me (and I think it’s due to religious trauma) is capitalizing God’s first initial versus not giving god that consideration. We’re told that we should also capitalize His pronoun, but what about those that don’t?

If someone believes that Zeus is the God of all, then why not capitalize his name and pronoun? Who is to say that the Christian God gets this consideration but not Norse or Hindu gods?

Are we disrespecting God when we don’t? Sometimes when I’m deconstructing, I think of things like this. Thoughts?

The religion my parents choose for me was Christian ,as i grew up my beliefs also changes
“I’m an independent deist influenced by Christianity and Buddhism.”
• God: I believe there is a Creator, known through reason rather than revelation.
• Jesus: I respect Jesus as a profound moral teacher but do not believe he is the divine Son of God.
• Christianity: I follow its ethical teachings (love, forgiveness, compassion, humility).
• Buddhism: I practice or appreciate its ethics and meditation, not necessarily its supernatural claims like rebirth or cosmology.
• Authority: I evaluate beliefs using reason and personal reflection rather than accepting doctrines solely because a tradition teaches them.

I’m also queer idk if my family will accept this if they found out,they’re like a cult in my perspective

In Christian they think if u serve other gods your next generation will be cursed to be gay,they believe they’re better than catholic cause they don’t believe in saints and serve only Jesus

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I guess the woke virus is getting to us deists too /s

No but seriously, I had a discussion a while ago on here with someone along these lines, and I'm interested to hear everyone's opinion.

To preface, I would like to say that I'm someone who believes that we should show respect for God, and that there is only one God. It would be nice to hear opinions from others with similar beliefs, because obviously if you believe something completely different it doesn't apply as much.

I think that there are three English pronouns acceptable to use for God (he, she, they) and not "it". And I'll explain my reasoning:

he - traditionally gender-neutral third person singular, although it has become more gendered it can still be used gender-neutrally.

she - God has no gender, so in having to use gendered pronouns, we English speakers are rather limited in how we can talk about God. Since God has no gender, it can be argued that "she" is just as applicable as "he".

they - although technically third person plural, it has been used colloquially for hundreds of years as a third person singular gender-neutral pronoun. So, there's nothing wrong with using it. Not entirely relevant, but anyone who has studied Islam would know that the Quran also uses plural pronouns to refer to the singular God - it's called the "royal we".

it - it is a weird pronoun in English. It is gender-neutral, but typically refers to something inanimate. It can actually be disrespectful when applied to something animate. Sometimes it is even intentionally used to be offensive. For example, if you were to ask someone of a dog "what's it's name?", that could be seen as rude. Or if you say of a person "ew, it came to the party", that would be disrespectful and offensive. Since God is capable of doing things (e.g., creating the universe), God is animate. One of the definitions of "animate" on Wiktionary actually further addresses this:

>(of people, animals, ghosts, deities) That has (or is believed to have) a spirit (anima) and/or some amount of consciousness and sentience, either being alive or supernaturally seeming alive.

Therefore, it is disrespectful to God to refer to him/her/them as "it", and in my opinion, I don't think "it" is an acceptable pronoun to use for God.

Apologies if this isnt the right sub for these questions but its been bugging me all day. Does the creation of the first synthetic cell disprove deism or any gods? Let me know your thoughts lol

Since finding other Deists is very rare, I think it’s necessary to date people from other religions and worldviews. What is the advice on which worldviews are compatible with Classical Deists?

I think that it is possible to have a fruitful relationship with people from many worldviews assuming boundaries are discussed, but the one thing I doubt is how to raise children? I’m fine with my children making the choice to be religious, but I don’t want them to be indoctrinated into a religion or worldview.

I personally do not believe God is loving at all. God does not feel human emotions, he is above them in a sense. But of course when many religious people talk about this, they are more referring to God's nature rather than actual emotion. I believe God also does not act loving or particularly concerned with human affairs. God is neutral, not good or evil, not for or against, not loving or hating. Creating the universe was not an act of love, it was done for reasons far beyond our capacity to understand.

What are your opinions? Is God all-loving? or is God even loving at all, in feelings or in nature or in actions?

I'm an interventionalist(believing that God does intervene to help or hinder things from time to time). Other interventionalists, do you think the current decline of the world(and America especially) in terms of freedoms, economy and government is a form of God punishing us for being selfish, cruel, evil, ect.? And if so, is there hope to turn it around?

I was reading into lord Herbert of Canterbury’s 5 articles and one of the articles was to repent from all wickedness and that got me wondering what everyone’s views on sin and human nature in general.

The more I pondered about God and creation in general the lesser I felt relevant even in the slightest among the gazillion planets and the billions of lifeforms on earth why should God be the slightest entitled to human beings? Let's say Edward prayed to Jesus to get an A++ on his examination or whatever, and he does get it. But a question arises: Wouldn't that be unfair to others? Why an omnipotent being should even in the slightest bit feel any relevance towards Edward who should get the exact fruits of his own hard work/laziness rather than just being helped by an omnipotent being? It doesn't make any sense in the slightest at all. Why should an omnipotent being help anyone at all? It just creates unjust , unfairness for others. The same could be said for cancer patients and their mourning families they expect their God from their said religion to give salvation to their loved one from cancer, and yet they didn't receive any. who's fault is it? The religion that peddled the concept of there being a personal god that is entitled to helping people on demand??.

The notion that there exists an omnipotent being personally helping specific people who are entitled to his aid disgusts me because that's simply unfair to others.

God is just a wonderful artist, and we're a part of his majestic canvas called creation that's all there is to it.

That's all that I think. Criticism is welcomed upon my understanding of God.

I am tired of people usually theists there only critique of the idea of deism being that god doesn’t intervene and that appelry I am just trying to make a god up 😂

No I am trying to find out what god is using the best means we have available to us using our logic and reasoning that we all have and yes I do come at with some other world view assumptions like rejecting religious books being from god and such and prophets and that god would intervene through natural means only but still I believe in all of this for practical reasons expect for god intervening through natural reasons I believe that for logical reasons if they do intervene

Any way I wonder if you any of you guys Have gotten this to from other theists and thanks for the rant

I have a theory for the cause of supposed divine revelation (e.g., Bible, Quran and Vedic texts) and consequently the cause of many Western organized regions. I would love to hear y'all's thoughts and opinions on it.

I believe that divine revelation is the result of the human subconscious (either individually or collectively) trying to reconcile the fact that we know something had to have created all of this with the fact that we can't perceive that thing (that created it). This subconscious struggle to perceive the imperceptible creator of a reality that had to have been created by something external to it may be the root cause of many purported "spiritual experiences" as well. But, ultimately, to me it makes a lot of sense that revelatory religious texts would be the result of this. The (Hebrew) Bible, aka the Old Testament, was a book of oral Jewish tradition, history and folklore that responded to the question "what created this?" by collectively agreeing that certain people (prophets) had been able to perceive the divine. Thus resolving the internal struggle in the subconscious minds of Jewish thinkers that something created this but we can't perceive it. The Vedas are similar but for Indo-Aryan peoples rather than Jews, the primary difference being that Jewish minds seemed to more settle on the logical conclusion that there is only one God. As for the New Testament, many scholars think Jesus was one of many apocalyptic preachers during his time. That in itself isn't especially relevant, but Nicene Christianity, which is now the standard, seems to reconcile the fact that a creator had to have created all this with the fact we can't perceive the creator by believing that we did in a sense perceive the creator - when that creator took human form. The "divinely inspired" or "divinely revealed" New Testament verses like John 1:1-4 reflect this, but you know, Christians tend to use verses out of context to apply to whatever they believe at that moment so I think my theory still is applicable to both the text and the theology; also it was written by Jews so that original statement about the Hebrew Bible still applies. As for the Quran, Prophet Muhammad appears to have had a fascination with religion and trying to figure out the "truth". Perhaps this revelation was from his subconscious mind trying to create a creator in a sense, perhaps even to the extent that he believed he was communicating with an angel - so he could resolve this problem internally. Islam also shares with Judaism the belief that certain individuals have been able to perceive God. I don't know a whole lot about Sikh texts, but if I'm not mistaken I believe that what I said about the Prophet Muhammad could apply to Guru Nanak as well, at least in part.

The tl;dr is that Western religions often come from "divine revelation", which I believe comes from a coping mechanism of our limited human minds trying to reconcile the fact that we know something had to have created all this with the fact that we can't readily perceive that thing that created it.

Thoughts?