r/dumbphones

Naming the new phone category

There are dumbphones, also called feature phones. There are also smartphones. So far, so good.

But there is also an emerging category of phones that doesn't have a name yet. This category is halfway between a dumbphone and a smartphone. A phone from this category can run either a limited set of apps or all apps, but even in the latter case, it implements certain technological and/or design features intended to discourage excessive app use.

People have been having trouble referring to such phones. I propose calling them wisephones. They are smart, to an extent, but they have realized that they can be too smart for their own good, and have taken a step back.

Discuss.

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u/merchantconvoy — 7 hours ago

EDC: 29, recovering from years of untreated bipolar

from left to right, top to bottom:

  • current library book (trying to go at least once every two weeks, if not every week)
  • kyocera ky-42c (northeastern US, my daily driver for 6 months this august)
  • ipad (only use for health apps + drawing)
  • sonic wallet (sick as hell)
  • car keys (car keys)
  • sony WF C701N earbuds (hard to see but they're clear plastic, also sick as hell)

not pictured:

  • kodak pixpro c1 (used to take the picture, only really carry to special events like concerts/parties)
  • prozac (elaborated on below)

the backstory:

>i used to be super deep into social media, since i had previously made accounts on tiktok/instagram to showcase my cosplay projects. during the pandemic some of my videos blew up, and keeping up with comments/making more content meant that my screentime hit double digit hours. the attention felt like crack during my manic episodes, and i'm embarrassed to admit that i've spent thousands of dollars on filming equipment and cosplay supplies for characters i didn't really know or care about just because i knew it'd get views. during lows i wasn't immune, since the rude comments (and there were plenty, given that it's social media) got under my skin even more than usual and i felt the obsessive need to monitor and filter all negativity from my online experience. this also fed into doomscrolling, which lead to constant pressure to comment on any and all social movements that were happening at the time. it was exhausting having to constantly monitor everything i did, both online and IRL (since my coworkers were starting to get my videos on their feed, which is something that still creeps me out to this day) to ensure that i didn't say or do anything that wasn't "correct".

>at some point i asked myself if i really wanted to keep performing for tens of thousands of strangers on the internet daily, and realized the answer was a resounding NO. i immediately deleted the social media accounts that were algorithm-only, realized that i enjoyed the peace of mind, and slowly began purging all social media from there. in early 2025 i started contemplating the idea of moving to a dumbphone, but was a bit hesitant given my previous spending problems. as a sort of middle ground, i bought a $40 tcl flip 2 off of ebay and told myself that i could upgrade to something nicer if i stuck with it for six months. i was able to keep that promise to myself, and now i'm rocking the much-sleeker kyocera ky-42c (my only regret is not splurging a little and getting the red one, but oh well!).

>i want to make it clear that this is a summarization of a process that took place over 5 years, that the process was NOT easy, and that some days it is tempting to give up and go back to that life.

>(as an aside: i wish the sub had a little more grace for younger people who are just starting out and asking "dumb" questions about changing from a lifestyle they've probably only ever grown up knowing, but that's a rant for another day)

the current:

>i've been off of social media and using a dumbphone for a year now and i can't ever imagine remaking my accounts, let alone going back to a smartphone. i don't want to pretend that cutting out social media and getting rid of my smart phone completely cured all of my mental health issues immediately, but it was a huge factor in finally getting out of online echo chambers and going to therapy/starting medication and i feel like i wouldn't have sought help if i was still worrying about "looking crazy" or "attention seeking".

>i don't want to credit prozac completely for my recovery either, but it feels like i've had the toolbox all along and prozac was just the key to actually opening it. i've always known logically that going to the gym, reading, and/or talking to others in real life would make me feel better, but i never had the energy or mental wellbeing to actually do so. i'm still hoping that i can get off of it in the future, but for now it's made me function like an actual human being again and i wish the stigma around it hadn't kept me from pursuing it sooner.

>the newfound stability also means that i'm able to work a fulltime job, something i'm ashamed to admit that i was too depressed to even imagine doing beforehand. i still cosplay here and there (as well as drawing and writing, other hobbies i was too miserable to make time for), but now i can actually focus my time and energy on smaller, more in-depth projects that i'm actually proud of instead of churning out massive amounts of expensive slop to cash in on social media trends.

>even more exciting: with the savings i've built up, i've been able to pay off debts that i accrued during the pandemic, and am now able to focus on travelling/visiting friends for the first time in almost a decade. i've never left the east coast before, and now i'm able to actually plan for travelling to other continents- something i never would have considered a year ago!

TLDR:

>during the pandemic i got rid of social media, and the time away from the internet made me realize that refusing to address/treat my mental health was only making my life worse. i got rid of my social media/smartphone, went to therapy, got medicated, and now i feel like i'm able to live for the first time in years. i've gone from 'trying to force social media as a job while being constantly miserable offscreen' to 'working a full-time job, keeping my hobbies as hobbies, and using my phone for 30 minutes a day tops'.

u/thedogparkwillnot — 6 hours ago

The HMD Barbie phone's microphone sucks :(

My heart is in pieces. I was so pumped about getting a dumb phone, and I was thrilled to get a barbie phone (international version) because it looked silly as fuck, and I'm a guy who's very into silly and fun stuff.

The phone arrived and looked just as outrageously pink as I hoped it would be. It turned on and yelled HELLO BARBIE! ✨️💅 so loudly that it scared my cat. The menus were gorgeous, and the keyboard even more so (it has bloody flamingos on it! F L A M I N G O S!!!).

My sisters were jealous and have been trying to steal it ever since I got it, which was very fun. My flatmates and friends were worried about my sanity (not that it is the first time something like this happened), but then they picked up the phone and practically started a cult over it. All of the boys are now praising the almighty barbie phone and initiating new members by taking their shitty pixelated photo with the (pink) barbie frame filter that you can activate in the camera app.

I was marvelling at its many decoration and hidden Easter eggs when I received a call and discovered that nobody can understand what I say unless I literally scream. And mind you, I'm Italian, it's not like I talk quietly at the phone in the first place: when I say scream, I mean SCREAM.

I'm so sad. I don't know if there is a way to fix this (if you have any ideas, I'd love to hear them). I think I'm gonna have to return it :(

(The Barbie Cult is going to kill me, I think, but I guess that there are worse ways to go)

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u/DominaTemporum — 6 hours ago

My simple EDC 25M

AGM M9 4G - Reliable phone for calls and texts. Anything like banking or WhatsApp I just use on my computer.

iPhone 3GS - Basically an iPod with notes and a few games.

AirPods Pro 3 - 👂.

u/fivesfinest — 8 hours ago

Should I get the MIVE Style folder 2?

I've been using my Samsung Folder 2 for a while now and I love it so much. Though the downside for me is the battery.. it doesn't even last a day.

I was thinking about getting the MIVE Sytle folder 2 because of the better battery and newer Android version.

Does anyone have experience with using it long term? :)

u/Zymanii — 13 hours ago

Not only does they still put social media on it, they are putting ADS for apps that I already friggin have:

Even if it's designed for "seniors"... just... why.

TCL Flip 3 running KaiOS. Dude what the hell.

u/anonymous480932843 — 10 hours ago

Recommendations?….

I’m in the US and I’m planning to make a full switch to a dumb phone relatively soon. From what I’ve gathered, it’s not as simple as it used to be back in the day……

All I care about is being able to text and call reliably. I don’t want or need anything complicated.

A QWERTY keyboard is preferable but I can live without it. I used to love the old blackberries, or the phone that would slide to the side to expose the keyboard, and you’d turn them horizontal to text! Those don’t seem to be a thing anymore.

Please help recommend me a good dumb phone that’s close to what I’m looking for! I’m so lost.

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u/based_rib — 10 hours ago

New phone recommendations?

Fellas,

I’m 42 and I’ve never ever used smart phones. I’ve only used Nokia and Samsung dumb phones before.

When HMD released the new 3210 I immediately bought it. Honestly it turned out to be below my expectations and what it should/could have been.

Anyway, recently I dropped it to water, dried it with silica, now it’s working except one button and the backlight is always on. It’s still useable but I want to use it as an excuse to get a new one.

I live in Turkey, not all brands and models are available here. Still many options…

I want a relatively newer dumbphone with 4G, user friendly os, responsive/fast buttons and os, and durable battery. I’m not using the camera but it could as well have one.

What’s your recommendations?

I’ve searched but couldn’t find a general review post. Sorry if I’ve missed it, a link could do…

Thanks in advance,

u/winniethepunk — 15 hours ago

Stay with dumbed down smartphone or go to dumb phone primary with secondary smartphone

I'm still rolling with a Pixel 7 and honestly it's still doing well. On low use days, I can go 2 days no problem. On higher use days I'm still ending the day around 40% battery. With the 11 series around the corner, I am considering moving up or taking one of the fantastic deals on a 10 pro. I realize I'm on the dumb phone sub but I am also very seriously considering going back to a dumb phone or something like the Clicks Communicator. I mainly use my phone for audio listening, maps, MFA, and camera. I do use social media but am actively trying to use it less. I like a lot of the smart features on Pixel but think they're way over doing things with AI and have been turning off as many as I can. So all that begs the question, what things am I not thinking about in considering my next phone? I have considered the dumb phone primary with smart phone secondary but am not sure and looking for some opinions. For what it's worth I'm in North America and on Verizon.

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u/Zalumar — 13 hours ago

I didn't expect the Qin F21 Pro to run Java games this well

Testing Java games on the Qin F21 Pro using a Java emulator. I didn't expect it to run this well! Here's some gameplay. Does anyone else still use this phone or play Java games?

u/Inner-Notice-9452 — 1 day ago
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my screen time has never been lower

i’m almost done setting up my phone, and i’m honestly surprised by how much this little thing can handle. this is the kyocera digno ketai 3 (903kc), and so far texting, calling, and using data have all been working great. :)

i really miss when phones looked like this. i’ve found myself doomscrolling way less, and it’s made me appreciate conversations and being present a little more. i’m still keeping my iphone around for banking and a few apps, but i can definitely see why people love these.

what dumb phone do you use? :) would love to hear your stories!

u/sunyastar — 1 day ago

Social life with a dumb phone (young people specifically)

The biggest reason I have not gotten a dumb phone is because I don’t want to isolate myself from my peers. I know that this was discussed in the pinned post, but I would like to hear how college and high school students still make friends without social media. I’m a high schooler and I am scared that getting a dumb phone will cause barriers such as not being able to FaceTime, text on instagram, and being alienated in general. I would love any advice you have

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u/Few-Daikon-932 — 1 day ago

Commodore Callback 8020 Founders Edition

Me encanta el concepto de los dumbphones.

Realmente no puedo prescindir de mi smartphone principal para gestionar cosas del día a día, así que suelo utilizar a ratos un dumbphone.

Llevo días mirando el Commodore Calback 8020 FE y al final me he decidido a comprarlo. Estoy deseando que llegue aunque todavía tendré que esperar un poco.

Estoy loco?

u/JGold9999_9 — 1 day ago

EDC as a gen-z dad

- Field Notes Notebook
- Sharpie S-gel 0.7
- Modded 3DS
- Camillus knife
- Sony NWE394/B MP3 Player
- Zyn
- AT&T Cingular Flex 2 Smart Flip (Cricket)
- Wallet

I've thought about switching to a dumbphone for a long time. What spurred me to bite the bullet was that my four year old, who copies everything I do, had started making lego/paper phones and pretend to be scrolling.

We don't let our kids use any smart devices for obvious reasons and I figured there's no reason not to hold myself to the same standard.

The benefits outweighed the inconvenience right away. Just the fact of not having my smartphone in my pocket feels freeing. I have more free time, I can read a book or hold a conversation without the voices telling me to check my phone every 10 seconds, and I have more time to be present with my family.

Now for the practical details, I work remotely in IT. I do require my smartphone for 2-factor authentication (for what I couldn't switch to SMS) so I deleted 75% of the apps and it sits across the room. There was one day where I reinstalled Facebook to look for something on marketplace--and I was having trouble signing in on my laptop--Immediately I caught myself randomly opening the app and scrolling without even thinking so it got deleted again.

Navigation-wise the Cingular Flex 2 has KaiOS and a rather-challenging-to-use Google Maps app, but it gets me where I need to go. I will admit I've grown a bit more dependent on my wife, who still has a smartphone (shes talking about making the switch too), for directions, googling stuff, etc..

My favorite thing about my EDC is my pocket notebook, in which I write stuff I want to look up later, notes to put in my Obsidian vault, grocery lists, to do lists, doodles, etc..

Finally, I want to thank this community for probably changing my life, y'all are awesome.

u/gabe923 — 1 day ago

When do you listen to music?

I have been using dumbphones since march, recently bought a new one that I can save music to. But I dont really want to ”abuse” it, so I was wondering, to all of you listening to music outside, when do you listen?

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Is the TCL Flip 2 still the best android dumbphone option?

I was recently considering updating my flip 2 when I saw that the flip 4 5g had come out, but quickly dropped that idea when I heard it didn't have android os. Is there a newer phone comparable to the Flip 2 in terms of features while still being android?

My main draw is that it has no touchscreen, like the Cat S22, because that seems like its pretty much a smartphone imo.

I guess im just hoping for a more capable Flip 2 style phone that has an updated version of android, but I want to hear everyone's opinions.

u/BetioBastard0311 — 1 day ago