r/evchargingUK

Does choice of charger matter too much?

I am due to get Polestar 3 on a lease/company scheme and have a discounted offer of either the Ohme Pro or Ohme epod. Polestar also potentially have an offer of a zaptec go at half the cost.

I am currently with Eon Next and from what i gather neither of these with my car will be eligible for the smart tarriff, so u less i choose to spend more and get the hypervolt or zappi, i cant see the choice of charger making any difference.

Does anyone have any thoughts or should i just go for the cheapest charger available.

Fyi i dont do much mileage only 8k max per year

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u/sharplyprocrastinate — 7 hours ago

Hypervolt’s 3 Year Warranty Is A Con - Avoid

They will invalidate it if anyone but their installer touch’s any of the install (even a local qualified electrician). Fine - but the gotcha is that their “approved installers” won’t stand by the CRA requirements for warranty on electrical installations and insist their work is only covered for a year, so want £160 to even look at the fault after the first year - even though all components of the install (consumer unit, charger, etc) have a 3 year manufacturer warranty.

And Hypervolt think this is fine.

Their chargers are ok, but I’d never use them again because their warranty behaviour is verging on criminal (and it’s a very expensive item to be failing after a year).

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u/cwaig2021 — 24 hours ago
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Installing an EV Charger on Private Estate

Hi,

Anyone had success with getting an EV charger installed on a private estate in England? I have a freehold house and parking space, but my parking space is separated by a 1m walkway owned by the estate freeholder.

Anyone ever had any similar work done and can let me know roughly how much they paid, and what the process is?

Our Estate Management company doesn't own the land, so they have given me an address to send snail mail to.

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u/Top-Carrot-786 — 1 day ago

Accounting for home charging...

Howdy all

Recently aquired a Peugeot E-expert for work.

And frankly am absolutely loving it.

Have only started charging at home on a granny charger...we do limited miles each day, and have been getting away with this each night as I come home from work. Adds to 75-95% charged and we are laughing in the summer months.

Will add a wall charger as soon as I can.

Two queries if anyone might like to advise.

Need to submit an amount of energy used to put on my books and get reimbursed....

Is there a better wall charger to do this with for business? From App software I guess as the E-Expert is not giving any charge data from vehicle screens, only levels. Any recommendations?

Currently with Octopus.

Also can I use the screen shots from the granny charger as attached....it shows a KWH on the screen...

Is it just the KWH total times my 0.22p rate for electric? Or is the sum more complicated???????

15.7 kwh x 0.22p = £3.45 as on screen shot

Thanks in advance ...

u/nighttime9999 — 1 day ago

First time using instavolt, started the charge with my fuel card (RFID) but had to pay with bank card at the end?

Bit of an odd one! I started the charge using an allstar fuel card but at the end of the charge the charger was requesting payment still and wouldn't accept the fuel card - I ended up paying with my bank card but then a few hours later instavolt refunded my account?

Wondering if anyone could tell me where I went wrong or if this is a charger to avoid in the future?

Im half convinced I maybe was meant to ignore the card reader and just drive off!

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u/Thalamic_Cub — 2 days ago
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Ohme epod help

Hi all,

I had an epod installed a few days ago and last night was my first time using/charging my vehicle.
I have a bmw, and was told by the guy who installed it to use mybmw app to schedule the charge. I’ve done this and input it charges between 2300-0600 to 80%.

However, every few minutes the app kept pausing the charge, and then changing the schedule to charge between 0400-0900 for whatever reason. So I’ve now woken up without it being fully charged.

What is the best way to charge going forward?
Am I doing something wrong? Do I use the ohme app or the bmw app?
I’m also on EDF go electric so my off peak is 7p and I want to utilise this price so charging in day is not desirable

Thanks

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u/Adam_E93 — 3 days ago
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EV wall charger to support Agile?

Some reading through here and r/ElectricVehiclesUK suggests the Hypervolt, Zappi and Anderson are all decent chargers to go for, with some questions about Ohme.

They all look to support "smart" tarrifs like IoG, but I can't find any details about if they're clever enough to work with Agile and pick the cheapest charging window etc?

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u/Transmog-rifier — 4 days ago
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Who checks whether the main fuse needs upgrading?

Morning all. I’m getting solar and battery installed next week, followed by an EV charger at the end of the month (different installer). My solar installer has confirmed the G99 has gone through with no issue but when I asked if they had checked if the main fuse needed upgrading, they said they didn’t usually check this. I did contact the DNO a few weeks ago asking if I needed to do this and they sid the solar or EV installer would do this. My questions are:

  1. As part of the G99 application, does the DNO check this as part of their process - I would assume they would - and if needed, they would inform both me and the installer this needed to be done?
  2. if the DNO does this, presumably the EV installer would then need to inform the DNO and there would be a similar check again?

I can just raise a request via the DNO website myself but it’s not clear what the standard process is. Also the label on the fuse has worn away so it isn’t clear what size the fuse is currently.

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u/Hobnob-Harry42 — 4 days ago

IONITY in the midlands isn’t doing so great

All Leicester chargers are offline and their South Normanton (Derby) ones only have 4 or so working.

They’ve all had their cables chopped.

Anyone who was planning on stopping at IONITY Leicester soon, consider Fosse Park for Tesla or Leicester Forest East for Gridserve.

Anyone that’s planning on stopping at IONITY South Normanton, there’s a fleet of Tesla chargers a mile away at East Midlands Designer outlet if all 4(ish) are in use at Holiday Inn. Google Maps is recommended to check live activity.

u/Melon_Hands — 6 days ago

Vchrgd Seven Pro Recommendations

I need to get a home charger installed and have shortlisted a few chargers, including the Vchrgd Seven Pro tethered version.

I've seen a few recommendations for it here, but am just looking for other feedback about day to day usage really. The app looks a little basic compared to some, but from what I can gather, the car itself (Model Y) will handle most things directly anyway.

We're with Octopus right now, but their intelligent Go seems expensive for daytime rates (we work from home so most our usage is then), plus we'll only charge the car once or twice a month. I'm thinking EDF might be the way to go, or E.on/OVO, so anyone who has that combination and could let me know their experience, that would be great.

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u/captkz — 3 days ago

EV Tariff + Export Tariff

Hi all,

I just added an EV to my existing Solar+Battery and looking for a new tariff.

I am super confused with trying to find a good balance with offpeak charging / standing charge / export rates from my solar.

Previously i had a good EON Next drive tariff that was 3p off peak and 16.5p export. Lowest I can find now is 7p ish? from EDF and 13p export or so. (what has happened to the tariffs?!?!)

My mileage is kind of low at around 4000 miles per year

Any advice?

Thanks

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u/octobeast999 — 4 days ago
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Consumer unit in garage

Not sure if this the right sub for this question, sorry if not.

I've been thinking about going electric and also having a charger installed. The thing is my parking space and garage are at the back of the house, the opposite to where my consumer unit is located.

I've seen talk of people needing to have trenches dug for cables, but in my garage I have an existing box rated at 40amps. I know it only has two spaces, so I dont think could be used as is. I'm no electrician but would the existing cable be sufficient (with some added hardware in the garage) or does it need to be wired direct to the house consumer unit.

Hope this makes sense, but as I said I'm no expert!

u/GSV_honestmistake — 5 days ago

Panic over!

I put my recent-and-first-EV on my home charger today and it would only charge at 1.23kW. It has charged at 7.4kW several times before so I know the charger should be OK.

Then when I got in and switched the car on I got a scary red warning box 'Emergency charging only available'. Given the the HUD stopped working a few days ago I was imagining something fundamental was dying.

After a hasty Google, skimming the manual etc. and finding lots of very expensive possible causes I finally found something saying '...or the charge cable might not be plugged in properly'. That was easy to check so I got out and sure enough I could push the charge cable into the car another 10mm, then I restarted the charge and happily got 7.4kW for the next few hours.

Just the HUD to fix now. At least I found the warranty docs while I was looking for the manual!

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u/anomalous_cowherd — 5 days ago
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Low charging speed

Can anyone help shed some light on an issue I'm having with my charging speed?

​I've just taken delivery of my new Tesla Model Y and plugged it in to make sure everything works. However, the max speed I'm getting is just under 4 kW.

​My Ohme Home Pro says its max charge current is 32A, but the car shows it's only receiving 16A. If I manually change the car's setting to 32A, it immediately drops back down to 16A once charging starts and won't let me select anything higher.

​I don't have an EV tariff yet (I'm in the middle of switching) so there are no schedules set up. I just wanted to test it on max charge to put some juice in. Am I doing something wrong?

u/No-Inspection3326 — 6 days ago

Had an AC charger cable fail - unexpected behaviour

Well, it's no news that things fail. But until it happens you don't know how.

TL;DR: when EV charging cables fail, they don't necessarily stop working. You may still be able to charge the car in some way even with a faulty cable.

My home charging cable has been in use for just over 4y, it's a menekes blue AC cable (3ph I believe, but only ever used in a 1ph charger). So not a rubbish/cheap cable. It does have an awful design flaw in that the protective lid for the car connection side would pool up rain water via the locking slot with no way to drain it...

Anyway 2 days ago, id7 wouldn't hold a 7kW charge. It would go up to 7, then down to 0/0.5kW and hold it there for a bit then back up to 7. After some time of doing this it would stop charging. I thought it was software that was acting up... I managed to get a charge in at 2kW through the night. Not ideal, but I will test tomorrow to make sure it is the car acting up, not the charger.

Sure enough the EX30 charged at 7kW - phew! Until it didn't... slowed down to 50W and stayed there. Whoops!! So it's not the id7! Swapped the cable for a longer yellow one that came with the id7 and the ex30 charged normally.

So the blue menekes cable is faulty in some way, just not enough to not work. I believe these are entirely passive wires (i.e. have no circuitry in the connectors I'm told they do have a resistor that informs the charger of the current limit) so the only option is careful monitoring of impedance while in operation by the onboard charger, the wall charger or both.

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u/pjvenda — 5 days ago

Granny Charging Advice *Sorry!*

Yep, another wanker who is buying electric and asking questions about the charging side of things. I've done a lot of research but my situation isn't one I can find online. My house is at the end of a little pathway from our communal car park area. The distance is around 40 to 50m to where we park the car.

An actual EV charger is going to be pointless I assume as I'll need to buy a 50m cable which are around £500 so I was thinking of doing a 50m extension lead and granny charging off of 13amps every couple of days using someone like EON for the cheaper rates.

I've now seen that it would be better to get it on a separate circuit for safety due to the current flow but I'm now thinking the extension lead would be an issue with getting hot:

- would using an extension lead off the dedicated EV 3pin socket be an issue

- the cable would go across a pathway which I don't own. My neighbours are chill but what's the legal implication if I cover the cable to avoid a tripping hazard?

- does anyone have a rough cost they paid for installing a separate circuit as the electricians I've spoken to didn't have an answer?

- has anybody done something similar to this and have any advice?

- is there a better solution I'm not thinking of?

- should I just spend the extra and charge off of a lamppost about a 10 min walk away?

- am I being a knob by even trying to charge at home?

We're semi detached in a new build with the fusebox under the stairs attached to the external wall. It's a KIA EV5 we're buying if that makes any difference

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u/vanbladehoven — 7 days ago

Could a charging cable be put in this channel?

A friend of mine doesn’t have a private driveway but is interested in getting an EV.

He has one of these ‘channels’ (pictured) outside his house.

Question 1: Any idea what the official purpose is for the channel? I’m thinking perhaps for drainage or an expansion joint? Might be wrong though.

Question 2: Has anyone got a similar set up at home? And have you used the channel to house the charging cable with any success?

I know strictly speaking this wouldn’t be permitted by the local council, but I’m also guessing that they’ve probably got more important things to be dealing with and probably wouldn’t have the time/resources to enforce against this, especially if the cable isn’t actually a trip hazard (due to it being inserted nicely into the channel).

u/Splodge6461 — 8 days ago

France road tripping with hotel chargers

I wanted to share my experience with hotel chargers in France. I asked about the feasibility a while back and most of the answers were not to bother. However, I went ahead with it anyway and thought it may be useful for someone looking to do something similar.

Previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricVehiclesUK/comments/1mx29o6/hotel_chargers_in_france/

We've just come back from 2000+ miles round France, staying at 7 different hotels, all with chargers.

The planning:

Usual process for us looking across Booking,com/Hotels,com/Trivago for what hotels we like, only addition was to use the 'EV charger' filter. There were so many hotels with chargers I didn't feel this limited are options at all. However, we were looking for hotels 20/30 minute drive out of towns/cities, I can't say how many city centre ones have EV chargers.

Once we found a hotel or two we liked in each area I emailed them asking a few questions about their chargers: how many they had, what the speed was, whether there was a cost and whether it was reservable. I also checked Electroverse and Plugshare but Plugshare didn't have good coverage. The responses were mostly reassuring, the majority of hotels knew about the chargers in terms of whether they were able to be reserved and what the cost was. They didn't know the cost if it was operated by a third parted and charged per kWh mind, but I could find that on Electroverse.

Cost:

Across the 7 hotels: 2 were free to use, 2 were a fixed amount for a 24 hour period (one €8, one €26) and 3 were operated by third-parties, on a standard cost per kWh basis. The third-party operated ones were all about €0.30/kWh

Experience:

I managed to charge easily at all 7 hotels. Although one hotel had a Tesla charger that wouldn't work with my car so I had to use their other charger.

I was able to reserve a charger in advance at 2 of the hotels. All chargers were 22kw, it seems they're all 22kw in France. My car can only take 11kw AC.

At two hotels I experienced ICE-ing (and EVs using the space but not charging, not sure what the name is for that!). At the first hotel the staff just shrugged their shoulders and said there was nothing they could do. They did have about 15 chargers so it wasn't a big issue but shame they didn't care to fix it. The other hotel only had 1 charging post (with 2 charger ports) that were often blocked by ICE or EVs, I spoke to the hotel reception and they were amazing, immediately saying they'll go and get the number plates of the cars and get in contact with the guests to move - I left them a great reviewing, calling this out.

We did use public chargers on two days, where our journey was over 3/4 hours. A mix of Tesla and Ionity, not a lot to say on that as I think everyone knows the public charging experience in France is superb. We could have easily gone round France without any charger planning as there are chargers at so many aires, you might just pay a bit more for the convenience (€0.60/kWh, Vs my ionity rate of €0.33/kWh)

Overall it was a very simple experience and was very nice setting off with 100% each time! Im not here to advocate it being a better strategy over forgetting hotel chargers and just public charging, just saying it's a viable option if it's one you want to go for.

If you want to give it a go and are happy putting a bit of extra work in planning upfront then go for it.

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u/BroadSwordfish7 — 6 days ago

3 pin charger or 7kwh charger? Dilemma

Hi, I recently got a model Y and I keep going back and forth of which charging option I should install.
I do about 10-12k miles a year and looking online alot of people saying a 3 pin charger will suffice for most people as they don’t do many miles, a top up charge around 60-70 miles a few times a week is more than enough.

The cost of an external one like the one attached is around £100-£150 supplied and fitted.

The other option is just getting an actual dedicated EV charger for around £400 ish installed with the OZEV grant. With this option I probably need to charge once or twice a week max.

u/Ok_Inevitable_9094 — 8 days ago

Scottishpower ev optimise advice

Hi all, im trying to get some info on scottishpowers ev optimise and their chat advisors have been useless.

Im getting my ev in a few weeks so looking at chargers and tarrifs currently with SP and they have an offer on at the minute to buy a charger through them and get 6p per kwh on ev optimise. I find their descriptions of they will only charge at the greenest and cheapest times a bit vague though.

My car will rarely be plugged in during the day but will be every night, over night. If I set my charge period as for example 8pm to 7am and I want 80% charge by 6am and it is always plugged in for that period will i only ever pay the 6p per kwh for charging and it will be charged to what I want by 6am every day? Or could they say well there were only 2 hours of cheap and green energy so we are charging you full price for the rest of the charging you needed or there were only 2 hours of charging so we charged you 12p for that but you are only at 60% charge?

Apologies for the essay but I cant think of how to get this question simpler, I've been on chat with an advisor twice and neither time did they understand me at all and I was just getting nowhere

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u/andygray383 — 6 days ago