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Who in here has used the 'Clear ...' Option for the keyboard?

Would it be possible, to wedge custom labels between the key caps and the key switches? Or is this a totally mad, misguided idea?

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u/Misophist_1 — 4 hours ago

Need a Framework 16 soon, did prebuilt prices actually go up?

Hi, Framework community.

I'm a music producer looking to move from my M4 MacBook Pro (bought less than a year ago) to a Framework 16 Performance Pro. Apple is phasing out Rosetta 2 and deprecating APIs/frameworks my legacy VSTs and software rely on, so my workflow will become increasingly unreliable starting this September.

Ironically, I originally planned to buy a Framework 16 after my old Windows laptop died last year, but held off because Ableton Live 12 had reported compatibility issues on the FW16 (which have since been resolved). I bought the Mac instead, not knowing Rosetta 2 was about to be sunset.

I made my ideal prebuilt configuration a few days ago, but it sold out and is expected back in July. I need the laptop by late July or early August because migrating 2TB of projects, plugins, and samples will take time.

My concern is that the same prebuilt configuration was about $2.2k when I made it, but now shows roughly $2.6k. The site only lists the Expansion Bay Module as out of stock, so I'm not sure if this is a pricing bug or an actual increase (possibly due to component costs).

I also have DDR5 RAM from my old Windows laptop, but since that system died from a motherboard failure, I'm hesitant to reuse it.

TL;DR: Has anyone else seen prebuilt prices jump like this? Is it a temporary website issue or an actual price increase? I need the laptop by late July/early August and I'm trying to decide whether I should wait or change my plans.

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u/Remarkable_Read_7911 — 14 hours ago

Any updates on the silver chasis for 13 pro ?

I kinda like silver more then black but they haven't been in stock or for preorder yet so whats the situation

in addition to that is the fingerprint reader included in that kit ? thanks

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u/Latiosshine — 13 hours ago

Is anyone entering the lpcamm2 market

I can get 32gb of lpcamm2 right now for $320 is there a consumer ram company that might enter the market at a lower price within the next two months or should I buy it?

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u/Informal_Cry687 — 23 hours ago

In a bit of a tricky spot, Advice needed

Not sure if this should be on the megathread but  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have a pre-order for a batch 8 framework 13 pro prebuilt with intel x7 358H, 32gb ram and ubuntu (Previously announced to be first batch shipping in august but now pushed to 3rd batch shipping in September).

I start my first year of engineering in very early September and currently do not have a laptop that I could use besides the framework.

I wanted a portable laptop with decent graphics performance to run 3d software and light games/emulation but nothing too crazy because I have a desktop (5700x3d, 32gb ram, 7800xt) and would rather prioritize laptop battery life.

I was looking into the alternatives with intel b390 but they all seem to either severely lack IO, or be close to a thousand dollars CAD more expensive.

Any suggestions in terms of being able to keep my pre-order or recommendations for alternatives available currently at around the 3k CAD price point ?

I was looking into the HP OmniBook 7 Laptop Next Gen AI 14-hg0010ca but the lack of reviews concerns me.

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u/User_patato_computer — 21 hours ago

Further Framework 13 Pro delays - any info?

Hi,

My Batch 6 pre-order page now says the order is expected to ship in September - is there any explanation for this? I knew about the original delay to August from July, but it seems it’s been pushed back even further? Has there been any info shared about this?

I’m leaving my country for 4 months in September and I really wanted to take my 13 Pro with me, so this is very disappointing.

Has this been addressed anywhere? Thanks.

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u/littleeraserman — 1 day ago

16gb of RAM Enough?

I have a pre-order for a Framework 13 Pro Ultra X7 358H (batch 7) that's going to replace my M5 Macbook Pro as my daily driver. I'm planning to use CachyOS, maybe NixOS, alongside Winboat for apps like Microsoft Word and Excel.

Would 16 gb of RAM be enough for this setup or would I have to resort to 32 gb instead? I already have my hands on a 16gb LPCAMM2 module waiting, for my now September :( , shipment.

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u/Fun-Title1940 — 21 hours ago

FW13P Battery Video

Hi,

I was trying to find the battery test video of the new framework 13 pro but I could not find it on youtube. Does anyone have a link to it? It's been quite a while since their announcement.

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u/DrFizzics — 20 hours ago

GPU 5070 only running 34 watt, ist this normal

My FAN run by 100% and no more power. I think it is a bit low for the GPU or is it all i can expect?

I running a game or 3d Mark, never goes over 34 Watt.

u/chaosraser — 1 day ago

Framework 13 Pro vs Framework 16

Hello! I’m a long time fan of framework since its original launch, and as someone going to college soon, I’ve saved up enough money to comfortably afford and purchase a framework laptop and want it as my college laptop.

I’ve never been a fan of desktop computers and found myself always preferring a laptop which is my main PC as of right now, a raider laptop from MSI. As someone who’s been inside a lot all my life, I find myself in difficult position about whether to get a framework 16 for the peak performance of a GPU that I am use to, or choose the “better choice” that many seem to advocate for college, that is, a lighter more portable laptop. I love my gaming and a huge part of my “hobby-ing” has been in 3D modeling in blender, but I’m moving to that point in life where I believe it might be necessary to switch as I am majoring in business. Almost everyone I have seen advocates for the lighter load.

For FW16 owners: Is it too bulky to comfortably carry around campus all day? Would I feel cramped in public areas on small tables?
For FW13 owners: How does it handle heavy Blender rendering or moderate gaming without a dedicated GPU?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

Edit: If somebody happens to know how eGPU performance is on a FW13, please do let me know! And with all the price increases nowadays, is an eGPU better price to performance than a dGPU with the FW16?

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u/KingFlappyPanda — 1 day ago

Where this thermal pad belongs to

last night I accidentally emptied a glass of water on framework 16

the entire keyboard got wet

I immediately turned it off, unplugged it and opened everything and took off the battery

fortunately no water was on main board or internal parts

it was randomly turned on and off while I was opening it

I found one drop of water under the power button when I took off the top panel

I tried all parts using paper towel and put all parts vertically under air conditioner for the entire night to get dry

but now I saw this thermal pad, I am not sure from which part it is from and where it is supposed to be

does anyone know where it is supposed to be?

UPDATE: fortunately it survived 1 liter of water, nothing leaked to the mother of work though, but keyboard, numpad, touchpad and power button all are working

u/ryn_eghbal — 1 day ago

SIM card module?

I’ve seen laptops that accept SIM cards. Would it be possible to make a module for a frame work laptop that would allow for the same functionality?

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u/Squiggin1321 — 2 days ago

Update BIOS and video drivers on new desktop model.

So I bought the latest desktop and got two 1.0 TB nvme's with it. I have a "chicken and egg" problem now. I selected to have it sent with no OS. I have not used Windows for seven years now, and I have never owned a Macintosh. I have installed a dozen different Linux distributions and thought I could just install one of the noted compatible distributions. But when I put everything together and turn on, I have to go into "safe" graphics mode and when I installed Ubuntu onto one of the NVME's, it will not boot into it.

It appears I need to update the BIOS and get the correct video drivers installed. I need a working system to update the BIOS. But I can't boot into a working system. So how do I update the BIOS from a live session Linux?

I have the below link that I found from Google:

https://rocm.docs.amd.com/projects/radeon-ryzen/en/latest/docs/install/installryz/native_linux/install-ryzen.html

Will this work?

Can I just do "fwupdmgr refresh --force" from a live session and do the followthrough with that like normal? The Framework site does not show more than the firmware update command.

The model I have is:

16 x AMD RYZEN AI Max 385 with Radeon 80505 Version A2; 32 GB RAM

And this only has two USB ports, so how can I have a keyboard, mouse, AND installation USB? My workaround is that I have a powered USB-C dock and I have a wired mouse connected to that.

I can't believe they would ship this without updated BIOS and drivers. If I buy a car off the lot, it has engine oil, transmission fluid, steering fluid, gasoline, why would they not even get it to the point I could use installation media to get a working system?

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u/JaKrispy72 — 1 day ago

What OS will you use on your Framework 13 Pro?

Curious what OS everyone plans on trying once they get their Framework 13 Pro? I’d like to get away from windows, but outside of bazzite and steam os I’m a newb with Linux. Think I might try Ubuntu and Cachyos and see how they perform. Otherwise I might have to stick with windows for awhile.

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u/Terreos — 3 days ago

Migrating from MacBook to Framework

I have been hunting for a windows laptop to switch to for work for a few weeks now but have not been impressed with anything on the market until I came across Framework. I've spent all day reading up and watching videos on the Pro 13 coming out. My question is... is there any way I can get a Pro 13 earlier than October? I have an option to purchase an ROG Zephyrus g16 for $1200 but that would only be to hold me over until Pro ship date.

In your personal opinion, do you think the price to performance is there with the Pro 13? Should I opt for the new Intel Panther Lake or go AMD AI? Which chip delivers the efficient power life advertised? How is casual gaming on the Pro?

Thank you in advance, this is a new realm for me.

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u/RicardiCapone — 3 days ago
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Mate fell asleep and dropped his laptop crushing the power button, needed a temp fix and I hate it

We are both waiting for the silver pro upgrade kits to come out and well my mate dropped his laptop and the top cover got crushed and the power button got stuck down as the top cover was bent over it, his solution pilers and a file even though its temporary I do not like it.

Also side note we are both IT repair technicians and when he showed me the original damage I said replacement and he said hammer so now I have been reminded why I supervise him and not the other way around

u/SamVgamer69 — 3 days ago

Framework 16 throttling when playing high load games, probably not heat related, possibly power related?

Hey everyone, I’m at my wits’ end at this point and really need to know if anyone knows what’s going on before I contact Framework support (because support sometimes takes a while).

Basically, every few minutes my Framework 16 will begin throttling incredibly hard - the frame rate drops, inputs lag, sound gets messed up. This only happens while playing Monster Hunter Wilds (and occasionally Stellaris), and this is not an issue I’ve had in the past, it used to run perfectly fine. I don’t think it’s thermal throttling because this sometimes happens when the CPU temperature is as low as 80 degrees, but I do have a few possible clues as to what’s happening:

  1. On two occasions, the throttling was temporarily fixed (for a few hours) by plugging the power cord into the back left port of the laptop instead of the back right. This no longer works.
  2. When it’s plugged into the back left port and the throttling starts, unplugging the charging cable and plugging it back into the left will not work - the charging light doesn’t come on and the computer doesn’t start charging. This issue persists for a while after the throttling ends.
  3. I’ve heard of a possible bug with Framework laptops where the charger will stop working if the battery starts draining and instead the computer will throttle really hard, is that a possibility for what’s happening? If so, does anyone know any potential fixes for that problem?

I really hope somebody knows what to do here, because like I said I’m kind of at my wits’ end.

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u/darwin1546 — 3 days ago

NVME Pricing, Smaller Drive Increased Price

I originally preordered my 13 Pro with a PCI Gen 4, 4TB drive. This was quite expensive. The more I thought about it, the more I think I should be fine with 2TB. And given inroads with ADATA I thought about the PCI Gen 5 2TB.

I went in and looked at changing to a 2TB version which, according to the screenshot should be about $150 cheaper. Instead, it raises the cost of my system about $80.

Then I tried the ADATA Mars 2TB. According to the screenshot, it should be about $6 cheaper. If I try to add it to my configuration, it increases my system by $250.

It is not making sense to me. Am I just not looking at this the right way?

EDIT - It was my original proce lockin apparently.

u/bigkenw — 3 days ago

Looking for framework desktop options for a 19” server rack mounting.

As the title says. I run a server rack and as far as right now my strix halo sits in a T1 case but want it to move it the rack. I know they have the 10” option but can’t be used in a full size rack as far as I’m aware. So looking for any recommendations, im open to 3d printed solutions. Or even a dual system next to each other setup in case one day I can get a stack.

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u/SkylarR95 — 2 days ago