all it took was a hiatus for non black eyekons to show their true colors and thats kinda scary. Ppl are using ai to remove her from ot6 photos, calling her a slave, nigganon, lazynon, etc... and yall really want her back there?
the way her own "fans" were SO QUICK to turn on her and erase her from the group shows this definitely isnt a safe space for her and i definitely dont want her back there. idc
I don't think I can ever get used to this. I'm in tears tbh I know it shouldn't be that deep but from the antiblackness that's been happening on twitter the past month with people pointing out that kpop is just our culture repackaged, to the back-to-back antiblack behaviors from certain groups and idols, to now this shit from Simon Dominic.
Every video that comes on my feed of people calling idols and soloists out is just a digital l*nching in the comments tbfh and its been wearing me down so bad. When I was a child kpop was the one thing that could pull me out of my depressed state. I grew up listening to this coon and I should have known he wasn't shit considering he had a whole company with Jay Park but still seeing this durag in his new MV and then listening to the chorus of another song from his new album that sounds so eerily like the n word it made me recoil - I just can't do it. I want to walk away from non-black artists completely because of the amount of disrespect like I couldn't even enjoy xlov fully because Hyun was wearing a durag in the last comeback and they just constantly remind me that the behaviors that the world considers queer culture is Black queer culture and it feels like minstrelsy sometimes...
But how do I fully breakup with this shit? Has that is neurodivergent and struggles with hyperfixations and special interests tried? I've invested so much money into this industry and over a decade of emotional labor that its damn near stockholm syndrome atp and I just need another special interest to take over this one so I can stop torturing myself with racism every damn day.
I saw the soundtrack was releasing soon with a lot of people like NMIXX, Dean, Asepa, ETC and was like, "wait, why tf wasn't anyone talking about this when it was in theatres?". Turns out the soundtrack and the movie version of the songs are done by different people. IDK how I feel about that.
There’s been a TikTok circulating recently involving Anok Yai and Tarzzan that has sparked a lot of conversation, and I genuinely wanted to know how people here feel about it.
Because what’s frustrating me is seeing non-Black fans use this interaction as some kind of “gotcha” moment to prove Tarzzan cannot possibly be anti-Black or racist. Those comments are getting tens of thousands of likes and it honestly says a lot about how shallow people’s understanding of racism and cultural appropriation still is.
My issue with Tarzzan was never about whether he is capable of standing next to a Black woman, smiling at a Black woman, or admiring Black culture aesthetically. That has never been the point. The issue is the repeated pattern of disrespect toward Black culture and Black people through actions that people have already explained are offensive and harmful.
And honestly, I feel like people brush over his offences way too easily. I am genuinely disgusted by him and the things he has done. At this point, he is far beyond me hoping for an apology or some statement to “clear things up.” When someone repeatedly engages in behaviour like wearing braids, using the n-word, and constantly performing this caricature of Blackness despite being told over and over again why it is offensive, it stops feeling like ignorance and starts reflecting a genuine lack of respect or care.
There is this pattern in kpop where certain idols treat Black culture like an accessory to put on whenever they want to appear edgy, hip hop, or “hard,” while completely disregarding the people behind that culture. And Tarzzan embodies that mentality to me. It feels incredibly performative and deeply uncomfortable to watch.
That’s why this discourse frustrates me so much. Because people reduce anti-Blackness to this childish idea of “well he interacted with a Black woman positively so how can he be racist?” as if anti-Blackness cannot coexist with admiration, attraction, consumption of Black culture, or proximity to Black people. History has shown us countless times that it absolutely can.
And honestly, I say this as someone who had every reason to want to support this group otherwise. I’ve liked Woochan since OGZSCHOOL. I’ve followed Bailey since before I even knew what kpop was as a young teen. I rooted for Youngseo after she left ILLIT. But Tarzzan’s presence alone completely put me off wanting anything to do with the group from the beginning, and not a single day has passed where I regretted distancing myself.
I’d really like to hear people’s thoughts on this because I think the wider conversation being had here is much bigger than one TikTok clip.
Big Ocean released this new single in dedication to their European PADO since the European leg of their recent tour was canceled.
It's a really sweet song, so please check it out! ^^
2nd pic: added some Yves, ARTMS, and Latency stickers! 🤭
Idk I just find it funny that between all these girls, for all their differences, are each the most stable sounding when singing life. Samara in Party 4 the Party has been going viral for her incredibly good vocals are while simultaneously dancing which everyone is surprised by. Savana's vocals are the loudest and most stable in Girlset so far, with ppl commenting on how they can hear her best in Little Miss performances. I still remember back when people were fat shaming her for being curvier then the other girls in VCHA, as if that effected her talents. More concerned with her bodyshape then her voice. And finally Manon who has received the most criticism and hate for her lack of training still remains the most solid sounding singer in most Gabriella/touch/ and debut performances live despite all the dance moves. People can say what they want about them, but they can never say these girls don't give it their all.
edit: I said what I said
How do we feel about buying secondhand tickets THE DAY OF concert for boycotted groups or groups from boycotted companies?
I've heard that buying secondhand can be bad because the seller themselves still buys from the artists/company, so I'm wondering what we think about day of, since that reduces chances of that?
ETA
are we doing boycott as in buycott, as in not buying from the company/artist? (ie: thrifting shein vs buying from the website)
or are we doing boycott as in the item/person/company/etc should not be visible at all?
or a secret third option
Credits to madsteaparty on TikTok
So if you haven’t been in on the loop, apparently an online organization originally by the name of halfasiaspring on Instagram (they've swiftly rebranded to citizensofwasia) hosted a wasian meetup in NYC, with plans to host the similar events in LA, Seattle, etc. However, despite the group's original branding as half-Asian, online commentators were quick to point out that the page's uplifting/posting of mainly/only wasians, with no effort to include Blasians/Latinasians/Nativasians resulted in a convention that pretty much ended up centering whiteness... on AAPI month no less!
The viral video embedded in the post is by artist Jonathan Tsai, who very succinctly lays out how wasians are not the only minority to feel out of place or rejected by their communities yet this sympathy is not extended to our Blasian/Latinasian/Nativasian siblings. He also cites journalist Aki Lee Camargo's substack article, which identifies how ultimately, the wasian identity isn't really rooted in a shared culture, but rather an aesthetic. He also points out that political labels like Asian-American differ from a label like wasian since the former "...were identities built in opposition to something. Wasian is built in proximity to something. Specifically, whiteness."
Another article that I think is imperative to read regarding this situation is NYC’s “Wasian Wonderland” Shows How Mixed-Race Hype Still Centers Whiteness by Kahlil Greene, which I feel goes incredibly into depth into the history of how white supremacy (and subsequently eugenics) was incorporated into racial mixing, with mentions of the implementation of blanqueamiento in the mestizaje space, and the paper bag test as a form of exclusion for Black Americans. I feel that the point Greene was trying to make with his article was that this surge in wasian fetishization is operating under the same principles that drove the creation of blanqueamiento and the paper bag test, and thus as a result, we should be more critical of what this means and what underlying biases are being affirmed in this wave of wasian.
As a wasian person, I really think more of us (especially those of us who are mixed with East Asian!) should be having conversations not just with one another, but the wider Asian community, both monoracial and mixed, acknowledging how much we benefit from white supremacy (and the entailing colorism/featurism), how that privilege is used to designate us as acceptable racial tokens (we're non-white enough that we can check off diversity quotas, yet not too non-white that we would be making white people uncomfortable), and how the elevation of our whiteness feeds into the discrimination and alienation of the Blasian/Latinasian/Nativasian parts of our community. To be clear, I'm not saying we aren't Asian enough or that we need to self-flagellate ourselves to atone, but I do think we need to confront this topic because in my experience, there are elements of white fragility that seeps through and makes us want to push back on having this conversation.
I do want to open this conversation to other BIPOC, mixed or not, to discuss the ways in how we can hold dialogues regarding issues like these in order to best combat them and figured this would be a good space to do so. Much love, xoxo, and a safe and happy AAPI month to all.
I saw a video by Kpop Spy talking about the group and I saw a comment that made me giggle that read l:
“I love the inclusivity in this group tho. We've got
a racist, a meanie, a singer and a child all in one”
This made me look into how the “meanie” was and apparently it was Lexie who likened Emily’s “aura” to Syd The Sloth from Ice Age😬
Now…I wasn’t tuning into this group already bc of Samara and her racism but it’s like…the more I see of this group makes them even more unappealing. Like also add in the fact that the chose a 2010 born girl to join three 20 year olds.
Also, I’ve seen people say that Lexie didn’t mean it but…idk I feel like people are only saying that bc she’s pretty. Idk maybe it’s just me, but it felt super mean. Especially when people picked at Emily’s appearance during Dream academy and called her Syd for her eyes being far apart. Am I seeing things or is really mean?
hahaha first time seeing them perform at an informal event and this looked cute. the girls were having so much fun, thought others might want to check it out too
Hi y'all, been recently thinking about this but this tweet (the image) confirmed my thoughts around the current love for electro music in our pop culture (at least the American one). K-pop on some fronts, at least through some of the comebacks I've noted, seem to be coming back into an EDM inspired era of music. This isn't my favorite style of music, but bangers are bangers. Knowing the current scene in American pop, I felt interesting then in trying to consider what is currently defining k-pop music and what music styles we define k-pop by in the past generations. The question that is kind of plaguing me, from the time I've spent thinking about it, is just... how would you guys define this current decade of k-pop?
So much has happened in these 6(!!!) years that it feels strange to limit it, and then stranger still is just that I can't trust for anything cohesive to be considered k-pop of this generation. Obviously we know of the minimalist pop era that sprang from NewJeans for a while, and then that mini afrobeat's era (I didn't even bother listening to a good bit of it), and now currently it feels like we're back into EDM (ILLIT, BABYMONSTER, LESSERAFIM... probably more..) and a bit of house (H2H, KiiKii, and I know there's gotta be some nugu groups trying it). This is what I personally am thinking, but it's just looking to be a bit of a mess overall...
Kpop as a whole, but especially in the music released, is so trend driven that it feels difficult to imagine that I'll look back and hear something distinct in this era of music that I could feel with listening back to the music released in the 2010s k-pop scene. Honestly, I personally haven't felt super connected to the big kpop scene outside of some of the groups I enjoy recently, and the music is playing a huge factor for me. Does anyone else feel that way? I wanna hear people's thoughts, :)
The outfits are fucking awful and I’m sick and tired of them consistently being put in lingerie and calling it an outfit and having other people (as well as myself) gaslighting me into thinking it’s cute or okay 😭😭
EDIT: I just want to say the only outfit that’s even somewhat redeemable is Daniela- the rest absolutely not MAYBE Lara and Yoonchae…. with actually shorts or pants 😭😭(I reallyyyyyy want to like Yoonchae look….but something about it makes it a no- likely the underwear as a bottom 😭😭)
You’re doing a world tour that basically going to be the same set list as your last tour (besides the 4 new songs from their EP…. yippee I guess 🙃🙃) all while having Manon status still in limbo…. like please don’t piss me off
Oh and they are doing arenas instead of theaters this time around so now the question is will it sell because so many kpop acts are going on tour and Katseye is relatively popular but idk (especially them picking days where most people are in school 😭)
The funny thing is they are coming to my city (they skipped last tour) and a couple of months ago I would’ve JUMPED on the opportunity but now I really couldn’t be bothered. I feel my interest in Katseye fading the longer Manon on hiatus- like truly 🫤🫤
on katseyeneutral, people are saying all of the sudden that continuously mispronouncing someone’s name is not racism…….. am i literally crazy, this is all over people saying people saying manon’s name should be pronounced correctly. i feel literally insane because I’m of indian ethnicity and use an english pronunciation for my name and find it racist that people still dont make an effort to pronounce it correctly lmfao