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Hello guys,

Not for self promotion, only for personal interest.

I uploaded Planescape Torment to my personal website, the game is running in browser based on Windows 98 and Github v86 project.

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Currently save/load state button can be used to save & load game.

I'm trying to get to level 12 Fighter beforehand if possible, only level 9 currently. I already have the portal and key, and I'm having a hard time finding enough side quests to hit the goal.

I recently started playing Baldur’s Gate 1/2 on iPhone again and thought about giving Torment another shot as an adult. BG1/2 were my favorite games in my youth, I enjoyed IWD 1/2, but I never liked Torment, and never managed to play it very far (I only ever managed to recruit Zakkon and Morte, if that places it).

I know Torment is a revered game and that I am posting in your forum, so I hope what follows will not be taken as insulting or fighting words. But I wondered whether fans of this game could speak to the main issues I recall having with it. They are:

1. I dislike being forced to play as a particular character (in this case, “the Nameless One”). When I first played this game years ago, I thought this was a bad import from JRPGs, and it changes the experience from participating in a story to something closer to passively consuming a pre-written storyline. Similarly, I think the small cast of potential party members in Torment feels like a structure lifted from Final Fantasy.

2. I have always found the Planescape setting ugly, and dislike its “punk” aesthetic and the one-note “philosophies” that drive its factions. Planescape makes a big effort to come off as deep and intellectual. But I’ve found that the philosophies of Planescape factions are less interesting and less sophisticated than the ideas that animate characters in purportedly more stock settings like Forgotten Realms, which are typically derived from real-world religion or esoteric/occult thought even if the coloring and names have been changed around and the setting doesn’t try to beat you over the head with how smart it is.

3. I know this is blasphemous to fans of this game, but I found that I disliked the writing of Torment on every prior attempt. I thought it was not interesting or entertaining enough to justify how wordy and frankly kind of self-indulgent it seemed. I disliked the use of labels like “(lie)” or “(bluff)” on dialogue options, and found that the writing interjected the voice and thought process of a narrator in a way that a game like Baldur’s Gate never does.

Some of these issues are probably ultimately an unbridgeable difference of taste. But I wondered if anyone who likes Torment and yet kind of understands my objections could speak to why, in their view, the game is worth pushing further into.

I am of course fully aware that I may just never have given this game enough of a shot to let it grow on me.

It is common in other subreddits to add a rule so that noone makes AI Slop and I would like it to be proposed in this subreddit.

Thank you very much.

I brought all the companions I could bring in the first areas of the game and entered under sigil, but I cannot move for a second without dying. How can I become stronger? (I am a mage and my companions are ignus, Morte, annah and fall from grace)

Hi cutters,

I made a short AI animated fan video with Annah and Morte wandering through Sigil and making terrible decisions.

The vibe is: dark fantasy, absurd Planescape logic, a suspiciously important door, and Morte absolutely not helping.

It’s a fan-made experiment, not official of course — just something made because I love the weirdness of Planescape: Torment.

Would love to know what you think!

https://youtu.be/HBVQ8pzTd-c

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Welcome to the Planes.

Come join your fellow Players in exploring one of D&D's most memorable settings.

Have your characters take part in Expeditions to the various Planes. Taking Loot back with your from Worlds you never knew existed, and Realms beyond your wildest imaginations and beyond the physical laws you thought real. All while earning Favors from your mysterious benefactors deep within the Plane of Dream. 

Campaign:
This is a West Marches Style Campaign based in the Planescape Setting.

You may make up to four characters that can go on Expeditions into the various Planes and Demiplanes of the Great Wheel Cosmology, and occasionally into the  various Crystal Spheres of the Material Plane when something within the more commonly known D&D Settings is meddling in matters they should your benefactors rather they do not.

Edition:
This Planesmarches Campaign is using the 3ed Edition (3.5) rules for Dungeons and Dragons 

Dungeon Masters:
As a West Marches style Campaign the Planesmarches Campaign shall be run jointly by multiple Dungeon Masters.

Each Dungeon Master will be running Expeditions they have crafted for our community on different days and times. You are free to join any day a Dungeon Master runs his session assuming he does not have a preferred Player cap per session and it has been reached.

As it stands we have DMs running Mondays, Thursdays, and DMs who will be starting up Wednesdays and either Fridays or Saturdays.

Please reply to this thread or message us with any questions you may have, or if you want a link to our Discord Server. 

Welcome to The Planes!

I'm currently 6 fighter 5 mage, just made it to the trash warrens. I want to play as Mage through most of the game, and make it to level 20 Mage before end-game, but with *just enough* extra hit points and thaco that when I'm out of spells I still function decently in combat. I don't mind if Morte and Vhailor outperform me in combat, but being useless in melee isn't fun for me. What level Fighter should I stop at to reach this goal?

I like the factions in Sigil; I think they bring the city to life. I don't like it when factions disappear, collapse, or are exiled, so I'm not a big fan of the Faction War lore. I'm currently researching the factions Sigil has had and need help figuring out if I've missed any important ones or if they're worth remembering. For now, this is the list I have:

- Athar

- Believers of the Source

- Bleak Cabal

- Doomguard

- Dustmen (Renamed Heralds of Dust, but I prefer the old name)

- Fated

- Fraternity of Order

- Free League

- Harmonium

- Mercykillers

- Revolutionary League

- Sign of One

- Society of Sensation

- Transcendent Order

- Xaositects

- Ring Givers

- Incanterium

- Mind's Eye (This is a fusion of Believers of the Source and Sign of One; I'm still not sure whether to keep them together) or separate, for the moment I'm leaning more towards the latter)

- Hands of Havoc (Possible merger between Revolutionary League and Xaositects, or maybe just Xaositects with another name, I'm in the same situation as before)

Out of interest, I looked up the alignments of certain characters according to the internal game data of Planescape Tornment today. First, I wanted to know Ravel's alignment, as I assumed she would fall somewhere within the evil spectrum; however, I wasn't sure if she would be lawful evil, neutral evil, or chaotic evil. So, I checked and found out that Ravel is actually just neutral. Afterward, I did the same for the other bosses, Trias and the Transcendent One, and both are also neutral.

I thought about it, and it does make sense for Trias and the Transcendent One at least, since Trias is a machiavellian and the "Transcendent One" is driven solely by an absolute instinct for survival. But I would still categorize Ravel as clearly evil.

What do you think? Were the alignments of the bosses left neutral as placeholders by the developers, or were they chosen deliberately with a specific justification?