u/Positronium2

As you probably know one can end the game by provoking the likes of Lothar and the Lady of Pain. Effectively the Nameless One dies but is that ending any worse than the main endings? I suspect the main thing missing would be a sense of closure but overall he doesn't risk losing any companions to the Transcendent One although I suppose in not dealing with the Transcendent One they may still be around with a shadow army to threaten the planes or some such? Or of course the Transcendent One also dies with the final death of the Nameless One. Was curious to hear people's thoughts on the matter

I was wondering if someone could give a rundown on the nuances of how belief works in Planescape.

In general if there is a strong enough belief in something in the outer planes, it may come to be.

Does this mean that say one could spread convincing rumours of a lost treasure hidden in Undersigil. As these rumours spread naturally the belief that there is a treasure hidden away becomes so widespread and potent that the treasure becomes real.

I presume simple charms and domination won't be enough as the underlying creature will have beliefs ingrained in them deep down but what about a night hag planting the seeds of some idea in someone's dreams. What about illithid colonies in the Outlands completely rewriting the beliefs of humanoids forming cults which can affect the reality of the planes as they see fit?

Am curious to know how these work and also if there is much affect on the inner planes if any.

I guess in principle I'd assume that the Sigil factions would have numerous bases on various prime worlds. Do the factions generally stick to Sigil and maybe outer planes or do they spread far and wide. Do the Dustmen have bases on Toril? Do the Harmonium police Dragonlance? Do the Mercykillers hunt criminals from the Last War of Eberron?

I imagine the whole point of the factions is to spread their philosophy far and wide until it becomes the new truth which shapes the planes in accordance with their belief?

Was interested in playing this Pathfinder game as I heard from many that it was a great RPG with many build choices for your character and such and ofc being a DnD player 3.5 and 5e was curious to try. The mythic paths sounded dope too although I'm sad they don't have time stop as a spell.

I was expecting something perhaps akin to BG1 and 2 but it feels much more like Icewind Dale just mobs after mobs although there is definitely more story content unlike Icewind Dale. I just defeated the demon lady in Kenabres using some kind of angel magic for reference. It seems to lack the exploration aspect that BG1 and 2 had. I liked just running around the maps finding the most random shit in different places like liches in a fucking tavern secret door lol.

I guess the game WoTR is emulating more is Dragon Age Origins certainly narratively but that was more than just fighting wave after wave of darkspawn and actually had a wide variety of varying quests and exploration.

My question is does WoTR get better or is it a slog throughout?

I am brainstorming ideas for a Planescape plotline. One of the ideas I had was that a certain antagonist could go out of their way to sow doubt in the dustmen's belief in death. They might be a member of the Athar that believes that the God's have bound mortalkind with the inevitability of death and as such hope to, as they see it, release them from this curse.

Given that belief shapes the reality of the planes and that death is such a central pillar of the dustie philosophy, what would happen if they stopped believing in death?

I suppose another thing is the Lady of Pain would very likely intervene with this scheme if it threatened the balance of Sigil.

Either way was curious to hear if any of this would make any sense in the context of the lore or if there were perhaps similar alternatives?

At the conclusion of the game Dak"kon is free from his oath after having lost his life fighting TTO. But if he dies and you cast raise dead on him throughout the game that is not so for some reason? Also Falls-From-Grace leaves a physical body rather than dissolving into ichor and returning to the abyss, why is this?

So I just finished the game, man that was a journey but such a brilliant story. Anyway I had wondered if anyone had any thoughts on where the Nameless One actually ends up. It's clear ofc that they end up fighting in the Blood War on one of the Lower Planes as punishment for their sins in life.

Now the question to me is which lower plane would they end up on? We know that souls that swing lawful or chaotic evil tend towards the Hells or Abyss respectively? Given the Nameless one committed so many crimes over many lifetimes which aspect the Nameless one is closer is somewhat unclear. The practical incarnation would likely belong in Baator but there are likely other incarnations that belong in the Abyss. Would this possibly become a point of contention over which plane gets to claim such a potentially highly desirable soul?

We also saw the Nameless one looking like himself when he entered the Blood War. So he hasn't been turned into some kind of devil or demon at least like a lemure or mane? Although given his rather unique life he may form a unique devil or demon. Either way was curious to hear your thoughts.

With all the enthusiasm for Count Binface across the country do you think he should call a Clacton Clean-up day where volunteers litter pick and clean up the town. It would be a good gesture and show that the Bin is doing more for Clacton than Nigel Farage ever did as an MP.