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Any tips to address the scratches on the plastic bumper? Another ditch I guess.
Thanks
I leased a 2025 Toyota RAV4 Prime in Connecticut and absolutely loved the vehicle. The lease incentives and EV credit made it an incredible deal, and overall it was one of the best vehicles I’ve owned.
Last year, life changed quickly and my family relocated from CT to Texas. To help with the move, I scheduled an appointment at a Toyota dealership in New York to have an OEM Toyota tow hitch and wiring harness installed so I could use a cargo carrier for the drive down to Texas.
The installation was completed in October 2025. Everything seemed perfectly fine afterward, and we completed the move to Texas without issue.
Fast forward to about three weeks ago. I suddenly received a “Charge System Malfunction – See Dealer” warning on the RAV4 Prime.
I immediately scheduled an appointment with a Toyota dealership in Texas. The next day, I received a diagnostic video from the technician, and honestly my jaw dropped.
The rear spare tire/tailgate area had massive water intrusion — enough that water had migrated forward under the carpet into the second-row passenger area. During the inspection, the technician noticed broken taillight mounting brackets and overtightened fasteners around the driver-side rear taillight area. They explained that this section had clearly been previously disassembled and that the leak did not appear to be a factory defect or normal warranty issue.
They then ran the vehicle through a car wash while monitoring the exposed rear interior panels, and water could literally be seen pouring into the rear body cavity from the driver-side rear area.
At this point I was panicking because I’m thinking:
“How is a nearly brand-new vehicle not covered under warranty, and what could possibly have caused this?”
I went to the dealership in person, and honestly the service manager at the Texas dealership was incredible throughout this process. He had my entire Toyota service history already printed out and walked through everything with me step by step.
He said:
“This vehicle is basically brand new. No accident history. No third-party modifications. This shouldn’t be happening.”
Then he found the key detail:
the OEM tow hitch installation performed by the New York Toyota dealership in October 2025.
He pulled up the official Toyota installation procedure and physically showed me that the installation requires removal of the taillights and multiple rear interior/body panels in order to route the wiring harness.
He told me:
“I think this is your issue, but we need to do a more extensive teardown to confirm.”
I approved the teardown.
The second diagnostic video was honestly infuriating.
Broken clips.
Damaged mounting points.
Evidence of improper reassembly.
And finally the main culprit:
a rear drain hole plug left completely out of the vehicle.
According to the Texas dealership, the plug was never reinstalled after the tow hitch wiring installation, and since October 2025 water had been pouring directly into the rear body cavity every time it rained or the vehicle was washed.
At this point:
- corrosion had begun affecting wiring/components,
- mold was discovered under the carpeting,
- and the repair estimate climbed to roughly $27,000.
I was honestly speechless.
The Texas dealership advised me to contact Toyota Corporate and the New York dealership that performed the installation.
Initially, the New York dealership’s service manager acknowledged that it was possible the issue originated during the hitch installation and said Toyota Corporate would likely need to mediate reimbursement between dealerships.
So at first I thought:
“Okay, this should be straightforward.”
Unfortunately, things became much more complicated after that.
Toyota Corporate has actually been professional overall and has stayed involved, but because the issue was allegedly caused by dealer workmanship rather than a factory defect, they explained it technically falls outside traditional warranty coverage.
Even so, both dealerships indicated Toyota Corporate needed to stay involved to coordinate the process.
The first corporate case manager I was assigned was honestly amazing. She reviewed the videos, investigated the history, and repeatedly attempted to contact the New York dealership.
According to her, they stopped responding to multiple calls.
I also emailed and called myself trying to start a productive conversation regarding repairs and responsibility.
Eventually I traveled from Texas back to New York myself to try speaking with them in person.
When I arrived, I was told they could not speak with me further based on advice from legal counsel.
As I was leaving, my Toyota Corporate case manager happened to call me back. I asked if she wanted me to go back inside while she remained on speakerphone, and she agreed.
So I went back in with Toyota Corporate actively listening on the call.
At that point, the New York dealership stated they rejected the findings of the Texas dealership — despite also acknowledging they had not reviewed the diagnostic videos yet. They also stated their technicians are trained professionals and “would never make a mistake,” and that they wanted to inspect the vehicle themselves.
My case manager was honestly stunned by the interaction. She specifically commented that she had never handled a case quite like this before. The videos show the issue very clearly, and the overall response from the dealership felt immediately hostile and defensive rather than solution-oriented.
The case has now been escalated to a senior case manager, and the process is essentially beginning another review phase while they get up to speed on everything.
Meanwhile, I’m still paying a lease on a vehicle that is currently torn apart undergoing mold remediation and investigation.
I honestly don’t even know what to think anymore.
I’ve owned Toyotas my entire life. My first car was a 1996 Camry. Between my family and I, we currently own multiple Toyotas including this RAV4 Prime. I’ve always trusted the brand, which is why this situation has been so shocking and disappointing.
Has anyone here dealt with anything remotely similar involving dealer workmanship, water intrusion, or Toyota Corporate escalation?
Any advice would genuinely be appreciated.
RIP 2022 XLE Premium Hybrid, cut off by kid driver at intersection but thanks to awesome modern car safety, walked out unscathed! Insurance gave me $35K which felt pretty good for 4yr/40K miles on our adventure car
Called 20+ dealerships across the US hunting for Everest Woodland PHV. Many places in California wouldn’t budge on dealer markup $5-10k), settled on fair price White Woodland in Las Vegas, paid ~$52k after tax/fees (see price breakdown above), then drove it 500mi back to SLC (tried to be gentler to help out with “break-in” period), able to reach on single tank of gas!
Still early, but thoughts so far
Pro: EV range 45mi is awesome with zippy acceleration & smooth, quiet ride; spacious with nice soft-tex; trunk outlet + built-in tow hitch great for outdoor crowd; semi-auto cruise control is the best so far
Con: Driver Visual Tracker is too sensitive (even 5sec looking at dashboard for odometer/cruise control gets flagged); minimal customization on digital gauge cluster, headlights shouldve been same LED as SE/XSE, indoor lighting is SO DIM (stupidly teeny LED lights that arent very effective), cost/overall painful Toyota buying process which will likely be here to stay post-COVID supply issues… (IYKYK)
Overall VERY THANKFUL for plug-in hybrid that will hopefully last a lifetime of national park roadtrips + easy EV-only work commuter. Good luck on the hunt peeps, it’s a HOT commodity right now
Hi all, been reading the sub for a while, finally got ours.
First off, we decided we wanted to change cars because my wife wanted more height. The Prius was too low, tired of getting in/out of the car.
Driven couple of Hondas and Toyotas, we generally liked Toyotas more so RAV4 seemed to be a fit. We didn't want any options, base Woodland seemed perfect and in fact cheaper than adding options to XLE Premium. We wanted SofTex as we have a puppy. (She's just under 10 pounds and not getting any bigger.)
Apparently another customer ordered this particular trim/color/options and could no longer finance it, so the dealership had been going down the waitlist. I happened to be home available to go in, so ended up buying it. Oops? LOL
I'd happy to hear your opinion on these!
Edit: added Likes item.
My 2020 RAV4 Hybrid has only 48,000 miles and has been taken in for regular servicing at the Toyota dealership-- no issues prior to this month. I woke up one morning a few weeks ago, turned on my car, and got a rotating carousel of error messages. There was a message about a PKSB malfunction and several other flashing messages I had never seen -- followed by "see dealer." I got the car towed to the dealer and they tried replacing the battery only to find that each new battery was also getting immediately drained due to some other problem. Here are a list of the things that needed replacing: Rear Traction Motor with transaxle assembly, combination meter, and floor wiring harness. I know that there are customer support programs out there that have to do with moisture and corrosion of certain cables associated with the parts listed below, but the dealer is insisting that none of those factors are at play. In other words, they are saying there is no applicable recall or customer support programs. I am shocked at the total collapse. The dealer is commnunicating with Toyota headquarters to see if I can get any "goodwill" coverage for these repairs since my 5 year 60,000 mile warranty that would have covered the rear traction motor has just expired about 5 or 6 months ago-- though I only have 48,000 miles.
Has anyone else experienced this level of catastrophic Rav4 Hybrid failure?
Hey folks, I have a question about using a child seat in the back of my 2026 Rav4 Hybrid XSE. That being said, I do tend to overthink things...
I have my toddler's child seat installed in the rear passenger side of my vehicle. Since I have side curtain airbags, does this pose a danger to my child, or does the car seat itself provide protection from the side airbags?
I hadn't really thought about that until now, and perhaps I am overthinking it, but does anyone have knowledge about this?
https://www.carscoops.com/2026/05/toyota-rav4-dealer-markups-hybrids/
Toyota dealers gonna dealer still
Nowadays, Toyota RAV4 is essentially a Camry SUV, a family car, but it wasn't always like that.
First gen "Recreational Active Vehicle with 4-wheel drive" was a fun light off-roader, like a baby more affordable Land Cruiser.
So, what if Toyota decided to bring back a more recreational body, short wheel base, to the RAV-4?
I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
* Year / Trim
* First letter or digit of vin
* Do you get a message on your screen, either a warning or option to keep the car running?
* What is the longest you have successfully kept it running while parked?
* Does it shut off on its own?
* If not, what is your procedure?
Bonus questions that I would love data points. Please do not answer without the year/trim/location, trying to get to the bottom of this too:
* Do you have the chicken nugget sauce cup holder by your shifter, or do you have the knob and large buttons that a half kilo kitten can activate while driving on the freeway? One of them says, "Trail." Whoever said that button does nothing is wrong.
* If you have a trail button, what does it do when it's not activated while NOT going highway speeds?
* Have you ever left your hatch open with the car off and just kinda forgot? If so, did the cargo light ever shut off on its own or did it drain your battery?
* Do you have factory tow hooks/cutouts on the front or not? My research is leaning Japan specific...because they are imported on a boat...and no I'm not suggesting there are other ways to get them from Japan...but I'd love your help affirming it's specific to the J vins.
Does anyone else with a Gen 5 TRD Off Road feel noticeable vibration through the gas pedal and driver footwell?
It’s not necessarily a noise issue. It’s more of a slight discomforting buzzing/vibration feeling through my foot while driving, especially during cruising on the highway at higher speed. it’s not so bad driving around the neighborhood.
I already switched to Continental LX25 tires and lowered PSI. I even tried vibration absorbing padding on the pedal and it only helped like 10% better, but it’s not at that comfortable state yet. I drive on normal mode and eco doesn’t change much either.
obviously i know that this trim is a more “rugged” and not a luxury comfort suv, but i still want to try out anything i can. I mainly care about reducing the vibration feel through the pedal/floor area and making the driving feel smoother. i’ve been trying to figure this out for about a month now so any sort of help or tips is VERY much appreciated!!!
officially a part of the rav4 club! my first brand new car!!! just brought my 2026 XSE home today.
anyone have any recs for floor mats and/or screen protectors for the infotainment system? plus recs for anything extra you think i should add!
thanks! happy to finally join the club after lurking here for months
I was in my garage, turned the car on, playing with setting, it is still parked. clean the car, listen to the music, and in about an hour or so, the car just shut down on its own, totally off.
This had happened twice so far, both time the car was also in the garage and parked. Is this normal? If this is normal, how cam people use it to camp if it turns off completely?
The engine kicked in while it was on idle when the ev ran out the juice and recharging then engine turned off into ev mode, but then just shuts off on its own!
edited:
somehow it won't show any comments under this post but I can read most of the comments via the notifications, thank you all for the info, really appreciate it.
First time in over 10 years I'm happy to be driving my car again. Absolutely love this thing
Hello, I’m new to the group.
I have a 2018 Rav4 LE AWD. It’s maintained pretty well. Parked in a garage at home, no lights on the dash, no issues while driving.
I recently went on vacation for a week and came home, drove home with no issues. Next day I go to get groceries and when I started the car there was a beep I’ve never heard before. It was one beep that went away then after about 15-20 seconds there was an audible long beep/buzzer that was continuous for about 5 minutes then turns off. Loud enough to be very irritating. The sound comes from the dash. When I turn the car off while the buzzer is going it will continue. It would turn off if I open the door with the car off. If the car is on I can’t stop the buzzer by opening the door. I don’t know what it is because there’s no lights on the dash and there’s no codes from the reader.
I researched that the sound could be from a dying battery. I got a new battery and the buzzer persists. I read it could be the antitheft and to reset the system by taking the positive terminal off for 15 min. I did that. I checked all the doors to make sure they’re closed including the back hatch. If a door was open then it would show on the dash but did it anyway. I checked the seatbelts and the seatbelt alarm by driving with no seatbelt and buckling up to stop the alarm, everything was working there.
Everything is stock. No aftermarket parts that would be making that sound.
I’m checking to see if anyone in the group would have an idea before bringing it into Toyota for service. I’m pretty handy when it comes to doing things by myself but I’m clueless as to what is causing this. please help if you can. Appreciations in advance.
Edit: Also checked the fuses. Fuses look fine.
problem: A gps tracker was installed from the previous owner. The gps was located behind the mirror and lane departure control panel. Took out the gps and buzzer. Problem solved!
Happy to be here! I’ve never had a new car before, so this 2026 LE feels like a dream, even at the base model. Some questions:
The inside (including screen) gets dusty and fingerprinty AF. Any ideas for regular easy cleaning (other than keeping a microfiber towel in the door pocket)?
Passenger can’t use wifi while I use Apple CarPlay. Why?
Any updates on the Apple CarPlay delay? Annoying but it won’t kill me (I’d have bigger problems if that was my death threshold).
Thanks!
UPDATE*. I got a call from my service; they said my tire life is 5/32 on caution. They want $889 for 3 michelin tires.
I have a 2024 Toyota RAV4 hybrid that I got back May 2024 and now has 23,000 miles on it. I came to Toyota to get my last free service and they’re talking about getting new tires. I thought tires were good for about four years and 40 K miles.