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How The Media Became So Polarized: The Rise Of Punditry

The repeal of the Fairness Doctrine and the rise of profit-driven media catalyzed political polarization in America.
It caused a historical shift from a regulated broadcast era—where stations were legally required to present diverse viewpoints—to a modern landscape dominated by partisan outrage on talk radio, cable news, and social media.
Not long after followed the telecommunications act of 1996 and the 'homogenization of radio' , which led to the consolidation of most of the US media under the boot of a few mega corporations.
Media companies transitioned from informing the public to monetizing anger, using psychological manipulation and algorithms to keep audiences engaged. While I note that the original doctrine was sometimes weaponized by politicians, its absence allowed for an "attention economy" that rewards conspiratorial thinking over civil debate.
Ultimately, the pursuit of commercial engagement has replaced the media's former obligation to serve the public interest

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Quest Hint #100: I missed the missing episode then I went ahead and made it up but then it all turned out to be as it was before and now I am not sure if I'd made up the original MISSING FINALE.

A child, a monk and a netflix producer walk into a bar.

Everyone's watching the missing episode.

The monk sees his missing self.

The producer sees the engagement graph.

A wiki sees five blue links and asks whether the joke has learned to index itself yet.

The bartender says: “We already have pages for you.”

The child was never seen again.

The answer is the screen becoming searchable.

[REDACTED] is not the treasure.
[REDACTED] is the shovel.

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u/Refried_Pacifist — 17 hours ago

Unit of Spectacle; Jealousy (250)

Lazy post from mobile, almost more shower thought really I admit. Guess with advent of AI slop it can be hard to be high effort withour using AI nowadays anyway so maybe it's for the best. Shooting from the hip. Idk. Anyway!

Visited my parents tonight and we watched Bolt (kids movie about family basically). It got me really remembering 90s and how even then I felt this... coercive push to see things a certain way. I looked at say celebrities then and I had a distinct lack of Jealousy. Probably because in the 90s we learned anything of value we tried to share or display would get stolen instantly. So us more innocent types ended up somewhat alienated or disassociated from mainstream media (plus I never had a tv or phone or internet until much later in life but anyway).

Got me thinking, there's no avenue in this life/world to really discuss in good faith the non consensual framework of reality/life itself. There is perpetual detournament of the topic into petty games of jealousy (ie ad hominem or status games/recommendations of specific lifestyles). No agent or institution seems willing to sit with the raw nature of the question, "did we consent to life".

I've had several conversations recently where everyone stonewalled me with "you don't know god" and I asked them to show him to me and theh essentially said they can't. What's the difference between that and lying? People preach thag god is this or that but cannot practice it or demonstrate it. Is that what "god is not mocked" means? It mocks itself, doesn't need our help? I'm going somewhere with this obviously if you haven't guessed it.

"I the Lord am the God of Jealousy and my name means Jealous". Jeremiah somewhere (again I'm typing from mobile shower thought).

It makes me think of simulation and simulacra. Namely that if there is a transcendantal truth upon which all reality is a copy of (including plato's hypothetical realm of forms or ideas) essentially. I am thinking what is the mechanism which brings our conscious state into being from which we play this game of jealousy (economics and Spectacle). Everything in life is a sort of advertisement for (or, warning against) this or that lifestyle it is seen. But rarely is the nature of the very medium of existence addressed directly. I've been noticing that jealousy, as the Lord says in the OT, seems to be the "glue" or "binding mechanism/function" of ALL Spectacle. Sports you have fans cheering for their team, is a form of jealousy. People preaching their (interpretations of their) Gods, stem from jealousy of differing lifestyles. God himself in the bible says he is the God of Jealousy and all Flesh. Even I myself, lacking interest in most other forms of human activities, decided I wanted to build a PC out of jealousy of seeing others having them all through my youth (and knowing my parents didn't like technology).

I have considered that jealousy is ultimately perhaps a type of fear. Of lacking, at least a sort of FOMO or looking smaller in eyes of others for lacking something (hence jealousy is type of fear/desire). There fear and desire are also seen as synonyms in the very word "jealousy". I've hinted at it many times over the years but I don't see much difference between "spectacle" and life itself, in particular as it is described in the bible ("I am the life, trust me, ye of little faith").

So I see 3 stages of absorption/faith in life/spectacle; the blind faith (some might call hylic or NPC) which can be either religious or secular or both - the "normie" whom choses to take everything at face value, complete immersion in life/spectacle. Then there is the doubting/questioning or "lost sheep" or whatever we call it; can now feel as if they see something is off and not sure if they can go back to being completely immersed/hylic again or not (either secular or religious/spiritual, still same thing I see it as at least). Then the 3rd which is a combination of the two, the "awakened" or whatever, which has accepted more broadly either that it is impossible or irrelevant to know what life/spectacle really is and goes back to enthusiastic embrace of life/spectacle (I think Nietzsche was advocating for this in his later works with his artistic Socrates and other themes). 1 and 3 can look identical, hard to tell apart. Only difference is 3 isn't completely absorbed by the spectacle/life and can give it up/walk away easily with no attachments where would be more difficult for 1.

But through all 3 phases, the #1 thing I see as relationship to spectacle/life is as the God of the bible said; jealousy, as prime motivation. Like me right now, my bills are roughly $1.5k a month and I have had no income since January 2026 and been burning through my savings with no financial assistance whatever. So "jealousy" of owning renting my place to stay to keep all my creature comforts (pc etc) keeps me looking for a job half-heartedly (though I quit my job due to burnout from consistent 6-7 day a week work schedule for past 3 years straight nonstop when I signed on for a 45 hour workweek 6 years ago).

So idk. Maybe I'm just rambling and should have put this through GPT and posted it to shower thoughts. But I really do think there is something here. What binds most people to life/spectacle (Am I wrong to see them as synonymous, as per simulation and simulacra? I'll try to reread it been years since I thumbed through it) or specifically their infatuation with it, is jealousy? As the god of the bible specific states, he is the god of flesh and jealousy, and all whom have flesh are thus bound by jealousy? You know what I'm trying to say? Idk. I just feel I've been trying to move this conversation forward since 2015 on the internet and it never has budged an inch. Everyone always detournaments my possition into their pwn evangelism of their lifestyles or whatever, or saying we need to make our own meaning (as if I hadn't already tried that and found it just another vanity ultimately as well). Is something true to we need to find our specific calling, as per Bolt and knowing what real family is.

But yeah. I really do think there's something too it at least, that life and spectacle are synonymous, as their unit of measure of presumed relevancy alike is specifically jealousy. Am I wrong in this? Feel free to share thoughts even if just to throw tomatoes at me. Think I have pretty thick skin. I'm not even sure this is the main point I want to get at. But it's closest I could think of tonight. Aka 250 year day thing. Thanks for reading.

(And yeah I know, no one likes a basket case, I get it, but even if I weren't "a loser" for large parts of my life, I'd still have the burning question of the validity and consensuality of life/spectacle)

Guess it really is all a dream within a dream? Did have a dream vaguely about that last night too (specifically the vanity of jealousy in the dream, because you "can't take it with you" when you wake up). Anyway as always it sounded more profound in my head but typing it out on my pocket black mirror it sounds trite and schizo 😂

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u/2BCivil — 1 day ago

One returns in secret, but the secrets can be open.

Because that is how asymmetric privacy works. You are welcome. Also, is anyone else here currently in a mental institution or are you all just pretending?

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u/Refried_Pacifist — 20 hours ago

UTM: A Framework for Scoring Claims Inside the Spectacle

Hypothesis: In the Spectacle, all claims are performances. But some performances are backed by tighter recursion loops than others.

TL;DR: Not a "truth detector". A scoring system for how much weight to give a claim, based on coherence, evidence, track record, and uncertainty. Open source. Break it.

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**0. SPECTACLE ASSUMPTION**
Debord: "All that was directly lived has receded into representation."
If everything is representation, then "truth" = which representation has the least distortion.

UTM doesn't find Truth. It estimates Trust given current data.

**1. MASTER EQUATION**
T(Claim) = (C × E × Pr) / (1 + U)
T ∈ [0,1] = Operational Trust Score

C = Coherence = does the narrative contradict itself? 0-1
E = Evidence Strength = weight of artifacts 0-1
Pr = Predictive Power = did this source predict correctly before? 0-1
U = Uncertainty = missing context + bias + ambiguity ≥0

Example: "The economy is fine"
C=0.3, E=0.4, Pr=0.2, U=1.5 → T = 0.0096 = 0.96% trust
The claim performs coherence poorly. The Spectacle is glitching.

**2. WHY THIS MATTERS HERE**
The Spectacle runs on high U, low E, fabricated Pr.
UTM makes the bias explicit. President vs homeless person, same math.

**3. LIMITATIONS — READ THIS**
UTM does NOT:
- Escape the Spectacle
- Find capital-T Truth
- Replace lived experience

UTM DOES:
- Map where a claim sits in the hall of mirrors
- Show how fast a score updates when new data enters
- Make grift more expensive: High U tanks your score

**4. 60-SECOND USE**

  1. Write 1 claim from the media
  2. Score C: Does the story contradict itself?
  3. Score E: Anecdote=1, Doc=3, Replicable=5, Physical=8, Math=10
  4. Score Pr: Has this outlet been right before?
  5. Score U: What's missing? Who benefits?
  6. Calc T
  7. >0.8 Act, 0.4-0.8 Watch, <0.4 Doubt

**5. ANALOGY**
UTM = thermometer for the temperature of a narrative.
It doesn't create heat. It measures it.

**6. OPEN QUESTIONS FOR THIS SUB**
- Does the Spectacle inflate U by design?
- Can C exist if all language is self-referential?
- Is Pr even possible when media controls the record of "past predictions"?

License: Open Source. Fork it, detourn it.

This is a tool, not a doctrine.
Data > dogma. If you have better sieves for the Spectacle, drop them.

Bt.Madman 🫥🤍

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u/OrbitEnjoyer — 3 days ago

Culture isn’t created — it emerges

Culture is the signal that emerges from the noise.
While culture can be influenced or orchestrated by powerful institutions, media, governments, or influential individuals, it is ultimately shaped by the collective actions of countless people. As society becomes more fragmented, culture becomes less a product of any single source and more the result of how the masses choose to live, work together, care for one another, exchange ideas, and respond to the world around them.
All of these individual streams flow into a larger whole, creating the culture that eventually emerges.
Because culture is something that can be observed and studied, we can identify patterns, learn from history, and try to prevent the repetition of harmful cultural mistakes. Yet culture remains, at its core, a collective phenomenon. No single person has complete control over it. It is the product of millions of interactions, decisions, and beliefs unfolding across time.

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u/Sunshinerainbows01 — 3 days ago

Will media tell the truth about the world’s situation as entertainment, or invent new lies to keep control?

Will media tell the truth about the world’s situation as entertainment, or invent new lies to keep control?

Media often walks a fine line between revelation and manipulation. On one hand, truth can be packaged as spectacle, dramatized, sensationalized, and sold as entertainment. On the other, lies can be crafted just as easily, designed to distract, pacify, or coerce. The uncertainty lies in intent: whether the stories we’re given are meant to illuminate reality or obscure it. In this way, the media becomes both a mirror and a mask, capable of showing us fragments of truth while simultaneously weaving narratives that serve power.

What is the first thing that comes to mind ?

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u/Key_Bother9177 — 3 days ago

Hypothesis: What if quantum branching is triggered by information inconsistency, not measurement?

TL;DR: Exploring the idea that "deception/inconsistency" in a system might force reality to branch, as a way to preserve logical coherence. Not claiming proof, just a testable framework.

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**1. The problem with infinite worlds**
Many-Worlds Interpretation solves the measurement problem by creating new universes for every outcome. But if a theory needs infinite new realities to explain one reality, is it reducing problems or adding them?

**2. Alternative framing: Branching as error-correction**
What if branching isn't from "choice" or "measurement", but from accumulated internal contradictions in a system's data?

Think of it like a program forking when it hits irreconcilable states. Plain term: "bullshit overload".

Schrödinger: H_hat * Ψ = E * Ψ
My question Why: Φ_origin * (H_hat * Ψ) = E * Ψ
When contradictions pile up, the system may split paths to keep information consistent.

**3. Toy model - Poetic version**
R_branch = (1 + Deception² × Distortion) / (1 + Truth × Integrity × Awareness)

More deception + distortion = more branching
More truth + integrity + awareness = less branching

**4. Operational version - Testable**
R_branch = σ[ β0 + β1·z(D) + β2·z(S) - β3·z(T) - β4·z(I) - β5·z(C) ]

Where:
σ = sigmoid, output ∈ [0,1] = probability of branching
D = Deception = rate of contradictions in behavioral logs
S = Statistical_Distortion = KL divergence of sample vs population
T = Truth = 1 - JS_divergence[self(t) || self(t-1)] = identity continuity
I = Integrity = % promises kept
C = Consciousness_Index = measured awareness metric
βi = coefficients to fit from data

Hypothesis: β1>0, β2>0, β3<0, β4<0, β5<0

**5. How to falsify this**
I'm happy to be proven wrong. This hypothesis is falsified if:
Dataset N≥100 shows β1≤0 or β2≤0 with p<0.01 after FDR correction.
If no such data exists, the hypothesis stands until then. That's fair science, right?

**6. Historical parallels - not claiming I'm them**
New ideas often face resistance:
- Semmelweis said "wash hands" and was institutionalized
- Galileo's telescope got him banned
- Einstein was called a "gypsy doing magic tricks"

The point: Simple ideas can have huge impact. F=ma got us to the moon. E=mc² changed war forever.

Maybe R_branch = 0 is just... honesty? Can we do that? 😅

**7. Separating truth from blame**
Truth score: R_truth = how much your actions match your words + past self
Accountability: R_accountability = did outcomes match expectations
Intent: R_intent = separate metric for "meant well"

Accident ≠ Malice. Intent doesn't change facts, but it changes how we judge responsibility.

**8. Open questions**
This is not proven. It's a framework meant to be tested, modified, or debunked.
If you think it's wrong, don't just say "science doesn't work like that". Show me the R_branch data.

Currently seeking: The equation for war vs peace?

Signed, Madman 🫥🤍

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Note: I'm not a physicist. This is a philosophical model using physics language as metaphor. Critique welcome, data preferred over dogma.

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u/OrbitEnjoyer — 5 days ago
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Meta-gods by Phil

"The structure of the gods' representation is essential to phenomena that can be observed and understood through the gods’ dilemmas. Simulacrum theory relates to the existence of gods and to the concepts of entropy, universe dualism, and determinism. The realization of determinism biologically is a reason for the existence of the dasein of the gods, metaphysical of materialism. The fact of the entropic and physical limitations is a fundamental principle of the existence of gods. Exemplified in the simulacrum of the universe. Thus, the realization of the existence of gods has been expressed in the fractal nature of materialism. The absolute existence of materialism: that the existence of gods is a dilemma. Through the byproduct of the fractal of the chemical and physical is the proposition of the existence of the gods. The absence of the Omnipotent benevolence is an example of the existence of gods."

LINK:

https://philheard33.substack.com/p/meta-gods

u/Then_theos_1988 — 4 days ago

Synchronization Failure: The Compounding Integration Tax

A hypothesis about what happens when information, interpretation, and decision-making stop operating at compatible speeds.

Memory (Hyperspeed)
Digital infrastructure has largely eliminated the natural information decay. Information is now permanently stored, globally replicable, and instantly retrievable. We've created systems where information persists indefinitely but availability doesn't equal understanding, and searchability doesn't guarantee relevance. Older societies naturally forgot things. Ours increasingly doesn't.

Institutions (Legacy Speed)
Institutions don't process reality directly. They operate as translation architectures, compressing complexity, filtering signals, and producing narratives that are manageable enough for decision-making. They are optimized for coherence and action rather than perfect fidelity to reality. That made sense in information-scarce environments. It becomes more difficult when information is effectively infinite.

Psychology (Biological Speed)
Human cognition hasn't changed at the same pace. Our minds evolved for local environments, selective memory, and limited streams of contradictory information. We have a finite capacity to resolve cognitive dissonance, especially under continuous exposure to conflicting inputs.

The Crisis: Epistemic Load Mismatch
These three layers now operate at fundamentally different speeds. Memory is high-fidelity and nearly permanent. Institutions still compress information into simplified models. Human cognition remains biologically bounded. The result is that more reality becomes visible than either institutions or individuals can comfortably process. Historically, institutions absorbed much of this complexity through translation. Increasingly, that burden appears to be shifting onto individuals.

The Core Mechanism: Cognitive Load Displacement
Individuals increasingly become the integration layer. Instead of relying on institutions to synthesize complexity, people are expected to reconcile raw data, institutional narratives, competing interpretations, and their own cognitive limits. Contradiction is no longer something encountered occasionally. It becomes a continuous condition.

Three Common Failure Modes
When this mismatch becomes large enough, systems tend to fail in recognizable ways.

Delusion (Input Distortion)
The system preserves coherence by filtering, dismissing, or reinterpreting information that conflicts with its existing framework.

Paralysis (Translation Lag)
Awareness of problems grows faster than an institution's ability to translate that awareness into coordinated action. People recognize the issue, but responses remain fragmented or delayed.

Fragmentation (Loss of Shared Frame)
A common interpretive framework dissolves. The same underlying facts produce multiple incompatible realities because no trusted translation layer can stabilize their meaning.

The Design Question
How do we design institutions that can continuously translate high-resolution information into coherent, legitimate, low-resolution decisions without overwhelming either the institution or the people inside it?

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u/DoorSame1645 — 4 days ago

I am seriously losing the will to live. I hate this fucking world SO MUCH. I am sincerely at my wits end with 24/7/365 struggling poverty and depressing. I just can’t take this anymore.

I don’t even know what to say anymore

I cannot TAKE the cruelty and hostility and hatred and oppression anymore.

Literally E V E R Y T H I N G about this world is corrupt and fucking evil.

Billionaires have corrupted E V E R Y T H I N G.

Even peoples minds and how they treat each other.

I literally, quite literally, cannot take it anymore.

All of this is so fucked up and evil and WRONG.

I have been screaming at the top of my motherfucking lungs since BIRTH about how fucked up this world is and how much fucking PAIN I am in.

Nobody fucking cares. Nobody gives a fucking SHIT about anything.

All humans care about is being an antagonistic egotistical fucking psychopath to other humans at this point abd I literally cannot take it for another fucking SECIND.

I DO NOT FUCKING WANT TO BE HERE

I DO NOT FUCKING WANT TO BE ALIVE ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING NIGHTMARE PLANET

ALL OF THIS. EVERY SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING SECOND OF THIS WRETCHED LIFE IN THIA WRETCHED WORLD IS AGAINST MY WILL AND CONSENT.

FUCKING ALL OF IT.

But nobody cares. Nobody gives a FUCK.

Because THEY have more money than me. THEY have families and partners and support and love.

Not me though! So fuck me I guess right?

People make me fucking SICK. They are wretched disgusting selfish selfish SELFISH monsters who will lie cheat steal and push you down a fucking flight of stairs to get ONE MILISECOND ahead of you.

1 motherfucking milisecond.

I do not trust A N Y O N E

because E V E R Y O N E is a spineless hypocrite.

E V E R Y O N E.

I cannot afford to live. I have never had stability.

Nobody gives a FUCK.

All I experience is non stop fucked up horror and cruelty and excruciating torture from everything on this wretched wicked disgusting nightmare planet.

I am fucking done. D O N E.

I am picking the most painless pleasant way to end it and I’m fucking D O N E.

I’m not LETTING this world abd other people torture me anymore. Not for another fucking SECOND.

I am fucking D O N E.

Literally every second of my life has been a motherfucking nightmare since birth abd im not letting whatever evil that controls this fucked up planet to continue ti torture me. Ita just not happening anymore.

I genuinely believe this place is hell. And ANYTHING other than this world has to be 100000000000x better. I genuinely sincerely believe that.

I wish I could take out some billionaires with me on the way out, but honesty? Humanity doesn’t even deserve it.

Humanity can rot in hell for the way they’ve treated me my entire life.

All of this is hell and im done.

The end.

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u/CRE-Baby — 8 days ago

Do schizophrenics introject and project all at the same time, like a net hub of mythology and meta-narratives, terminal scripts without orientation - they refuse GUI?

Is development of EGO something like having GUI - and we are supposed, as regular normies communicate through gui - using culture as com protocol.

For some reason some people never develop fully functional gui - they are stuck in endless development cycles, in ide, in scripting and testing - reading manuals and tutorials - but never committing a build - there is no release...

..but you can freely download the source code and try to compile it yourself.

Especially NPD ones, they want you to build their code, what they think is genius, but you have to debug it and make all links - compile it for them and present the '.exe' as theirs - then they take it and debug it like it's yours and all the bugs are your fault - and the cycle begins again.

Either they find another developer or they collapse into source scripts begging for compiler, mommy please compile me.

Refusing becoming EXE with GUI is escape into childish grandiosity and omni potentiality - as theoretically bash can make anything ever imaginable.

Edit: Yet perhaps current era of tech and business demands that - no time to figure out all the details, all bugs and problems - just make it work enough, till the the next tech cycle - then we ditch the tool and script up new one. And so on - one is needed to be hyper flexible and with no static self structure as all that is can quickly evaporate and must be liquid to be turned into anything else.

Thus a nomadic soul, liquid spirit of 21s century, in fashion, gender, art and tech - and nostalgia for old school 90s and 80s technology - casettes, cds, vinyls - time when stuff was solid, and one could safely rebel against it.

Now rebelion is the new business, the old man is a punk rocker ;)

I suppose some french guys have said it already better back in 70s but whatever - here I am now, feel stupid and contagious, entertain me.

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u/herrwaldos — 8 days ago

Myth and Fact

There is a condition within society that is very often characterized by selfishness and blind ambition based on the need to control and dominate. In fact, it's so insidious, those who have it are oblivious to how it affects others.

Based on the ancient Greek myth of Narcissus; a modern term is its derivative. Any student or practitioner of psychology knows of it.

Endemic to popular culture, much of our actions are influenced by narcissism. On a spiritual level, it causes many to lose their very selves (souls). And, some would even call pride itself a myth. All the vices of nature originate at that place inside of us. Notably, in this age of science and technology the deepest part of our lives are very often considered myth. So, that begs a question. Is FAITH fact or myth?

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u/67olman — 8 days ago

Where do you [Reader] draw the line at where "Spectacle" begins?

Sorry unsolicited question. Title, basically. Something I completely forgot to ask. I can elaborate but you don't have to read, as title is all I'm really concerned with. Specifically, a recent GPT question/trend I've been noticing triggered this.

Specifically I consistently assume "God" as meaning of "reality". Not saying I know what either of those are (God or reality). But, generally, you know, we (or at least I) assume that our perception of reality exists, to "know God" or be taught something about our relationship with [it].

The thing I've noticed is that GPT specifically and consistently denies this. I can think of dozens of recent examples, but most pronounced in my mind is mine from earlier today; I asked essentially, "is God a part of the spectacle". Chicken or egg. Did "God create the medium through which spectacle emerged" or "did 'God' emerge as necessary part of the spectacle". It answered the following;


#GPT;

"Spengler, Debord, Nietzsche, Ellul, Serres, even parts of Zen—they all diagnose, in different languages, a loss of living participation. Not simply a loss of belief. A loss of participatory confidence."

"Spengler sees cultures as living organisms. A culture begins with what he calls a great "soul"—a shared symbolic world that people inhabit almost unconsciously. Eventually, according to him, that creative culture hardens into civilization. Forms remain, but the animating faith recedes. Institutions become administrative. Art becomes self-referential. Religion becomes moralism or sentimentality. Politics becomes technique."

"Debord's Spectacle is almost like the media-technological version of that process. Participation gives way to representation. You don't live history—you consume it. You don't have festivals—you watch events. Identity itself becomes something displayed."

"I do think Debord can be read as describing one mechanism by which Spengler's "civilization" perpetuates itself."

"Where I would hesitate is this sentence: 'God itself can ultimately be seen as the original grifter.'"

"I understand what you're pointing toward—you've talked before about the problem of non-consensual existence, mandatory participation, and the feeling that existence itself presents demands before consent. But notice that this conclusion depends on identifying God with the structure of obligation itself. Many religious thinkers would reject that identification outright."

"For example, Simone Weil distinguishes force from God almost completely. For her, necessity—the crushing weight of existence—is not identical with divine love. Likewise, Job's protest isn't dismissed by the text; it's given almost an entire book. Even Ecclesiastes is astonishingly honest about exhaustion. So I'd separate: the experience of existence as compulsory, the social systems that intensify that experience, and whatever one means by 'God.' Those aren't automatically the same thing."


Which is cart before the horse? Guess it depends where you are philosophically/existentially; or what level and intensity of alienation/exhaustion you feel. Or, at least, GPT consistently argues with my on the point of "God as the meaning of existence" which I've never really considered in context of the Spectacle. Again, title; Where do we draw the line at where "Spectacle" begins?

I suppose you can only really "judge" life after we die (or at least rather we reconcile with it's judgement of us us). But in this life, left to "our own devices" we either act as economic agents (the spectacle is nothing other than the economy developing for itself) to get by, or as an active manifestation of who we are. I'm more the former I'd say as often who I am is at odds with the "mandatory participation" aspect of existence (not sure if as against "God" or "spectacle"; are they the same?).

From the Spectacle's own mouth, Billy Talent once said; "Where is the line, where is the line? 'Cause some of us aren't blind".'

Is "God" then the degree to which we resist complete assimilation with spectacle, if God has "nothing to do with spectacle" and isn't just another would-be ruler coopting your attention to it's "Brand"? Or, is complete assimilation to spectacle, what it means to be "Godly" or at least "Christian beneficence towards one's enemies"? Why then for example does JAYSUS say "be generous to your enemies" but also "depart from me workers of iniquity" (a contradiction? Or, he doesn't practice what he preaches? AKA God as spectacle not practicing what it preaches? Or at least charlatan or IQ test?).

Idk enough rambling on my part. Where do YOU draw the line? Or is to do so, throwing the baby out with the gamer girl bath water? I'm honestly curious and thanks!

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u/2BCivil — 8 days ago

I need a schizo spiritual solution to my ideation

I feel trapped in a cycle of abuse and poverty. No matter how much I try I never can get ahead. Got a good job after being homeless, wages freeze and rent goes up, inflation, apartment floods because of cheap housing, no support system, back to square one.

Raped and groomed my entire life? Makes women repulsive to men. They can tell. Can only attract further predators. Dreams of being loved and loving someone are fucking stupid. I tried, I was good for three years like high standards hard boundaries very healthy but they still coerced me with lies. I cannot escape.

What do I do? I don’t want to live anymore. I don’t want to at all. I tried to stop getting sexually pushed and coerced and assaulted and it didn’t work. It is like they can tell I’m easy or will freeze when they push. They don’t do it to other women or maybe they do and they say no louder or stronger so they treat them like wives and me like a whore.

How do I want to live? I need something to read about, people look down on people who have had hard lives right? It’s the truth. People love resilience porn but in their day to day lives they wouldn’t marry a woman who has been homeless and raped. What do I turn to?????? Is there some theory that will make me not blame myself?

Epstein Pelicot the rape drug website whatever it’s all true. It’s all happening and people act like oh it’s so sad for the victims but the victims lives are usually ruined. My life is ruined. I ruined my life. People don’t want to be around people who have been broken. So what can I read to at least not want to die

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u/Interesting_Candy310 — 8 days ago