r/troubledteens

We are victims of a predatory and criminal industry. They want us to be called survivors to perpetuate the fear of being sent to programs. As victims we obliged justice by law, and the law refuses to see we get any. These criminals who work and operate these facilities must be put behind bars. It is not enough to have schools shut down. The employees and owners must face criminal prosecution at the fullest extent of the law. We must not rest until we see every school shut down and everyone who profited and perpetuated the abused indicted on criminal child abuse charges.

Hi everyone, I’ve become very Interested in this topic after the Reckless Ben video dropped on it (as I’m sure many others have). I’m turning 17 next month and I’ve had experience with E.S programs as well as having friends who’ve gone to schools and other programs like Provo. I thought Reckless Ben did an awesome job on his video, but these practices are still remaining strong in many programs throughout the U.S. That’s why I want to hear the experiences of survivors directly from them. And if they’re comfortable with sharing them, maybe the names of other schools that still participate in these practices. I can’t watch Ben’s video and not want to go in undercover myself. It’s a crazy thing to want to do, I know. But again, there’s still plenty of schools out there that extort the “Troubled Teen Industry”, and the public should know what really goes on behind the scenes. If anyone feels comfortable talking about the idea, don’t hesitate to jump in the comment section.

I was reading my records from a psych ward, and one of the things was an ethics consultation. It was a complete joke. Just platitudes about how forced medication shouldn't be taken lightly followed by saying it was okay to keep forcing me the daily injections that were hurting me without any consideration of my concerns or actual ethics of any kind. It didn't even consider that I might be having bad side effects or another reason for not wanting the medication, and it said something like "preserve autonomy by allowing things like picking what side the injection is in." I'm not and wasn't some toddler who just needs a little feeling of automony, I had serious concerns that they didn't even consider. And that recommendation only *increased* feelings of helplessness for me. The way they bulldozed over my concerns is nothing new, but the way they went out of their way to call it ethical makes me furious.

I’ve seen many posts about the Reckless Ben video and wanted to take time to shout out the survivor who made it possible.

Jordan’s podcast has plenty of survivor guests and has been ongoing for years. We love to see survivors uplifting other survivors.

I’m personally so grateful and so impressed by the courage it took to make this happen. Thank you so much, Jordan!!

Hey everyone,

I still wonder what TTI places are still open. Only so people are aware not to go there, or we can protest outside those places to get them shut down for good.

Yesterday, I was in part of my training for a new job and we had to do a fishbowl exercise. The other two that day weren’t in a circle, so I was able to complete them easier. The last one when we sat down all in a circle and it was my turn to do the training, I couldn’t do it.

I freaked out maybe 30 seconds in and said I couldn’t do it (which made everyone stare at me more) and pushed my chair back fast and walked out, where they informed me that the rest of the training would be similar exercises to this. I’m 34, and it’s not something I’ve had to work on in my personal or professional life - “public speaking” I guess but it’s really mostly certain situations - so I never have.

I’m at a loss and I don’t have anyone to tell or talk to about it so I just thought I’d post it here. Thanks for reading guys.

Edit: my actual job isn’t like that. I do one week there and one week training currently, It’s the nature of the skills clinicals for the training going forward from here. I genuinely don’t know how I’m going to get through them, and what happens if I can’t.

I did not “survive.” I existed.

I was not noble, brave, or tough. It fucking broke me. I have never been the same since being in the TTI. It took hobbies, friends, and everything I knew about myself, and ruined it.

I suffered through an environment that I had no choice but to remain in. My life was not threatened. I was never in mortal danger.

So, yes, to anyone who calls me a survivor, I would say, “no shit.” Because I’m standing right fucking here. Alive. Heart beating. Breathing. Traumatized. Time moves forward. What choice did I have?

I was not stoic. I was weak. I was preyed upon. Victimized. Mocked and gaslit for being victimized before I even ended up in the TTI. Told it was nothing. To grow a thicker skin. That I should stop victimizing myself. Called manipulative when I asked how I was doing so.

I am not, and will never be, a survivor. I lived. I am alive. That does not mean I am okay.

I am a victim. That label empowers me. It is the correct legal, therapeutic, and institutional terminology to describe my experiences.

Ever since I have started my tti research, something has bothered me. In the 1980 VisionQuest boating accident, Lyle Foodroy has been listed as one of the many victims.

This is the incorrect name.

As I have been digging in old newpapers and records, I found that his real name is Lyle Purnell Goodro. He was 18 and from Englewood, Colorado. His name has been misreported for over 40 years, and now his story can be told.
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=RMD19810319-01.2.30&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7CtxCO%7CtxTA--------0------

specifically he got sent there because the provo canyon school shut down. I couldnt convince my parents to pull him from that one, but im hoping maybe I could for this one. If anyone can tell me what its like and/or help in any way i would be immensely grateful

Taken from (German broadcaster) DW's documentary on the TTI. In the video, 13 year old Logan was sent to Provo and is CLEARLY showing symptoms of PTSD from his time there. The video is fuckin heartbreaking. I broke down crying when this documentary first came out, because i saw myself so much in this kid. I saw my own pain and abuse through this kid and it hurts like fuck to see that. I just wanted to jump through the screen and give him a hug bro. This fucking industry is evil for what it does to people. If any of yall watched Reckless Ben's dope documentary, then watch this next.

Dirk Schenck fundamentally broke my trust and then conveniently disappeared from the state of Montana. Very suspicious behavior. I wanted to contact him because some of his colleagues were cited for illegal educational consultation practices but since the allegations and his obvious involvement he seems to have completely vanished professionally. This kind of sudden disappearance is suspicious on its own but coupled with very conclusive evidence tying him to fraudulent and abusive teen treatment centers. Very sad and pathetic line of work to be in. I wanted to contact him directly but he never gave me the chance and left me feeling used and taken advantage of in a most vulnerable state. Sad and pathetic. I hope he enjoys the hole he dug himself to live out the rest of his days in.

Spring Creek Lodge Academy 03' - '04, Serenity Family

I watched the RecklessBen episode yesterday about Provo Canyon and woke up this morning to my husband telling me they'd been shut down. I hope thats a good thing for those kids and that they haven't just been shipped off to other facilities.

I've looked up SCLA a few times on reddit and come across a post or two in the past but never joined. But, I decided to join today. Just to say, if anyone ever needs to talk to someone else that understands I am willing to talk and listen. I have very mixed feelings about my time at Spring Creek. In some ways it was a good thing for me but in others it has had lasting effects on me that still hurt (mentally/emotionally) deeply.

Anyways, I just wanted to be supportive for fellow survivors and while my goal during my time there was to be as invisible as possible I realize that I could use the support or be the support for others that have similar experiences.

it all started with my dad relapsing on heroine in April 2014, it was just me and him in the house (mom fucked off years ago) i would spend the next 2 months in summer seeing things in my house getting sold off for drug money and things being stolen from Walmart, come September cps took me away and arrested my father for theft, i got put into a temp house for a week until CPS took me in, they put me in this key program at the start of October, life was hell in here, i had to share the things that kept me sane (my ps3), they'd have us line up to take a shower I don't know if i mentally cracked or not but i stopped taking showers and i stopped sleeping well(lying on my bed and just staring at the radio tower behind the house), my roommate was a loon and tried to kill himself twice in front of me and also pissed on my bed, mind you i wasn't a bad kid i just liked video games and weird preteen furry shit, im also positive my stuff got stolen by managing because i had 2 nerf guns in my baggage. i make this post so i can hopefully get rid of the baggage this place gave me, i hope you guys succeed in making these programs obsolete i wouldn't wish this place on my worst enemy, also feel free to ask anything, im not sober right now but i'll answer them to the best of my memory