r/wickedmovie

Finally

I know the knee jerk reaction to the PG rating is marketing, and I get that - they wanted to be able to market to children and sell toys. However, I truly think they could have marketed it the exact same way with all the same merchandising and still rated it PG-13.

All the Marvel and Star Wars movies are rated PG-13 and they’re marketed towards children the same way Wicked was. They make a fortune off of toys and kids clothes! The biggest difference I can see here is that Marvel and Star Wars are marketed towards boys and Wicked is marketed towards girls. I think most fans of the musical were surprised to find out it would be rated PG, and I’ve seen a lot of people say (and I agree) that For Good especially would have benefitted from a PG-13 rating.

Anyone agree? Am I overthinking this?

ETA: My point here is that the movies would have been better if they had been made with the intention of being PG-13 from the start and had a slightly more mature approach to the subject matter, not that the movies as they are should be PG-13, in case that wasn’t clear in my original post!

I hope ya'll don't mind me posting I haven't seen much in discussions in my groups for Wicked now and that made me feel sad so I started posting to try and start discussions because i recently rewatched the movies and i apologize if this is stating the obvious and probably everyone already knows this anyway but it took me a bit to make the connection. It's really impossible to catch everything without rewatching and i haven't watched the movies as much as some people.

I think it was sad that Glinda had to go and celebrate with the ozians after Elphaba melted during no one mourns the wicked but I made a connection I hadn't realized before.

I realized that Glinda may have tried to get the Ozians to feel some sympathy for Elphaba by saying that Elphaba had a childhood like everyone else, telling the story of her birth and that she was bullied as a child and then by saying " so it couldn't have been easy...". She was trying to get them to understand how she was treated like garbage for most of her life.

That one munchkin girl asks Glinda " is it true you were her friend?" and Glinda responds "friend?....yes." When Glinda admitted she was Elphaba's friend she was met with shocked gasps and angry looks. Glinda realized from their reaction that what Elphaba told her was right. If she had tried to push the issue further, if she had tried to make them see the truth about Elphaba they would turn against her and she wouldn't be able to rule Oz so she backtracks by saying " that is our paths did cross at school....you must realize it was a long time ago." As sad as it was Glinda did the right thing IMO by not trying to clear Elphaba's name because she was able to change Oz, which is what Elphaba wanted. AS sad as it was that Elphaba would be remembered as the wicked witch she was right, if Glinda had tried to clear her name they would have just turned against her. She honored Elphaba's wish by not trying to clear her name and she honored Elphaba's memory by changing Oz.

What do ya'll think?

I think at first Glinda was jealous of Elphaba, Glinda wanted magic more than anything and Elphaba had it and Morrible chose to teach Elphaba, not Glinda so i definitely think Glinda was jealous of Elphaba until the Ozdust which is why she orginally didn't like Elphaba for a while. Glinda said her hearts desire was to be a sorceress and then Morrible chose to teach Elphaba over her.

Also I think the intial rivalry between Glinda and Elphaba was refreshing for Elphaba. Glinda disliked Elphaba for who she was not just cause she was green, it was actually about her not her skin and i think she thought that was refreshing and it seemed to amuse her.

That's what made Glinda dancing with Elphaba at the Ozdust significant because she saw the kindness in Elphaba and in that moment she didn't care what anyone thought. Glinda matured a bit in that scene and it was one time she actually didn't care what the others thought of her dancing with Elphaba, she was doing what she knew was right.

I felt so bad for Elphaba during the Ozdust scene, she was blindsided cause she thought she was finally being accepted when Glinda gave her the hat but she realized it was just a cruel joke which made it more poignant when Glinda danced with her. Glinda felt bad cause Elphaba did something for her which was probably the first time anyone did anything kind for her and she realized there was more to Elphaba than hostility.

What do ya'll think?

Damn. They really (successfully) made the wicked witch of the west the most likable, layered and 3-dimensional character all at the same time. The wicked witch of the west, of all people. I thought this film was absolutely majestic.