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10 fun facts about shifting from each state of consciousness

# MABA (Mind Awake Body Asleep)

  1. MABA is the only state where both your critical mind and your subconscious are simultaneously accessible, making it uniquely powerful for shifting because intention and imagination are operating at full capacity at the same time.

  2. The sleep paralysis that defines MABA isn’t dangerous. it’s the brain’s natural motor inhibition system firing to prevent you from acting out sleep. You’re borrowing it consciously, do not be afraid of it.

  3. Most failed MABA shifts happen in the first 10 minutes of paralysis. Be patient and fully detach from CR sensory input.

  4. MABA produces the strongest physical sensations during shifting (pressure waves, vibrations, and the sensation of being pulled)

  5. The hypnagogic imagery that appears in MABA isn’t random noise. many shifters use it as raw material, essentially hijacking a forming dreamscape and redirecting it toward their DR instead of letting it go wherever the subconscious takes it.

  6. Your hearing is the last sense to fully disconnect in MABA. Experienced shifters use this as an anchor rather than fighting it, letting CR sound fade naturally as DR sound replaces it.

  7. MABA shifting and WILD lucid dreaming use identical mechanics. the only difference is destination. A WILD practitioner enters whatever dreamscape forms. A shifter directs the forming scene deliberately. The technique is the same.

  8. First-time MABA shifts often feel incomplete. people report arriving in their DR but still faintly feeling their physical bed underneath them. This dual awareness fades with practice.

  9. The theta brainwave state that defines MABA is the same state associated with peak creativity, deep hypnosis, and flow states. Some researchers consider it the most cognitively potent state the brain can occupy.

  10. MABA is self-reinforcing, each successful session makes the next one easier because your brain builds a neurological pathway between deep relaxation and conscious awareness rather than defaulting to unconscious sleep.

# Waking State

  1. Waking state shifting is considered the hardest but produces the most dramatic results when it works. a successful shift feels like the world literally replaced itself rather than a gradual immersion.

  2. The Raven Method works from waking specifically because the starfish position with limbs separated mimics the sensory deprivation of MABA artificially. you’re trying to manually recreate the conditions your body would naturally reach in sleep onset.

  3. Waking shifts are more common in people with highly active visual imagination — those who experience vivid mental imagery (aphantasia on the opposite end) report waking state success at significantly higher rates.

  4. The biggest obstacle to waking state shifting is sensory competition.

  5. Some of the earliest documented waking state shifts come from shamanic traditions, deliberate trance induction through drumming, breath work, and sensory overload or deprivation to overwhelm the brain’s CR anchoring.

  6. Waking state shifting attempts that fail often produce something useful anyway, deep meditative states, hypnagogic imagery, or spontaneous creative downloads. The attempt itself moves consciousness along the spectrum regardless of whether a full shift occurs.

  7. The body can show physical stress responses during a waking shift attempt (elevated heart rate, tingling, temperature changes)

  8. Scripting is most critical for waking state shifting. Vague intention produces vague or no results.

  9. Successful waking shifters often describe a specific moment of surrender rather than effort.

  10. Waking state shifting attempts done consistently at the same time daily show faster progression.

# Astral Projection (AP)

  1. AP is the only state where shifting requires no visualization at all for many people

  2. The AP environment itself can be used as a shifting tool

  3. AP shifts tend to feel more permanent than dream-based shifts

  4. Emotional charge accelerates AP shifting dramatically. a neutral intention moves slowly, a deeply felt one moves instantly.

  5. The silver cord is described as absent or invisible after a successful DR shift, which some interpret as evidence that the shift moved consciousness rather than just projecting it.

  6. Many AP practitioners accidentally shift before they intend to, simply thinking about their DR while projected can initiate a transition

  7. AP shifting can be initiated from outside your own projected body

  8. Time distortion is more extreme in AP, meaning you can stay there as long as you need to learn how to shift

  9. AP practitioners who shift report that returning to CR feels like a second shift

  10. The vibrational stage of AP is reported as the single most reliable launch point for shifting

# Lucid Dreaming

  1. Lucid dreaming is the most researched altered state on this list

  2. Dream stabilization before shifting is non-negotiable. an unstabilized lucid dream collapses within seconds to minutes

  3. Rather than abandoning the dream entirely, some shifters find a door or portal within the existing dreamscape and walk through it into their DR

  4. Lucid dream shifts are the most likely to produce false awakenings. You think you’ve shifted or returned to CR but you’ve actually entered another dream layer. Reality checks remain essential.

  5. The length of time you’ve been lucid before attempting a shift matters

  6. Spinning in a lucid dream is one of the most effective shift triggers, the vestibular disorientation it produces destabilizes the current dreamscape without waking you.

  7. Lucid dream shifting success correlates strongly with dream recall ability. Journal up people.

  8. Calling out for your DR in a lucid dream works at a surprisingly high rate. The lucid dream state is highly responsive to verbal commands.

  9. The moment of lucidity itself is a viable shift trigger.

  10. Lucid dream shifts that fail often produce useful intermediate states. A failed shift from a lucid dream frequently lands in the void or a hypnagogic in-between space rather than CR, giving you another launch opportunity without having to start the whole process over.

Drum roll please, prepare for the elusive…

# Void State

  1. The void is the only shifting state with zero sensory competition

  2. Most people’s first void experience produces panic rather than a shift.

  3. The void responds to feeling before visualization

  4. Time in the void is completely untrackable. practitioners report that what felt like seconds was an hour.

  5. The void state is where the boundary between shifting, AP, and deep meditation becomes completely blurred

  6. Void state shifts tend to arrive with a physical sensation rather than a visual one.

  7. The void amplifies intention more than any other state. A passing thought about your DR can initiate a shift you didn’t consciously decide to make.

  8. Some practitioners use the void deliberately as a reset between a failed shift and a new attempt.

  9. The void is described almost identically across shifting communities, AP communities, deep meditators, and NDE accounts.

  10. Extended time in the void without shifting produces its own significant effects.

Enjoy.

Happy shifting.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 7 days ago

You won’t get to shift easily but it is an easy thing to do

Some of you been trying for years, your “journey” may have included many methods, none of which have worked, none of which you actually stuck to because “it didn’t work.” No wonder it didn’t work, you don’t want to do the hard thing. Shifting is a milestone, not the end of your journey. I believe (and so should you) that shifting is inevitable. It’s extraordinary how many people I see that never want to do the hard thing and that is to just sit in stillness. People always want to give their subconscious the wheel and hope that it follows through with shifting but it usually never does, more power to you if yours does. Get into a deep meditation, stay awake, go to MABA then shift or go to the void from there, everyone can do it just like everyone can fly in a lucid dream.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 9 days ago

Dreams aren’t fails, they aren’t mini shifts either.

The way I see it, they’re an upgrade in states of consciousness, you can either upgrade again into the astral, to which you can enter the void or, you can shift directly from the dream

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 10 days ago

A simple exercise to help believe the extraordinary is possible: Cloudbursting

Approach this with an open mind and belief that this is possible, forget instilled knowledge and knowledge that doesn’t help you that hinders your journey, it will not help you here. this is a strange esoteric practice that helps removes doubts about manifestation, the power of the mind and, much more.

Cloudbursting is a type of energy practice where you focus your intent on a cloud in the sky and visualize it disappearing, often times repeating mentally, “dissipate” “go with peace” “vanish” etc.
You can also visualize holding an eraser and visualize “erasing” the cloud.

This helps with your journey because let’s face it, if you can will clouds away, you can manifest whoever and whatever it is you’d like.

I’ve personally done it before and it was interesting to say the least, having many clouds disappear at my will and shaping the cloud roughly is fun.

Go try it out, do not come back to me with “I can’t do that!!” Yes you can.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 12 days ago

A simple exercise to help believe the extraordinary is possible: Cloudbursting

Approach this with an open mind and belief that this is possible, forget instilled knowledge and knowledge that doesn’t help you that hinders your journey, it will not help you here. this is a strange esoteric practice that helps removes doubts about manifestation, the power of the mind and, much more.

Cloudbursting is a type of energy practice where you focus your intent on a cloud in the sky and visualize it disappearing, often times repeating mentally, “dissipate” “go with peace” “vanish” etc.
You can also visualize holding an eraser and visualize “erasing” the cloud.

This helps with your journey because let’s face it, if you can will clouds away, you can manifest whatever it is you’d like.

I’ve personally done it before and it was interesting to say the least, having many clouds disappear at my will and shaping the cloud roughly is fun.

Go try it out, do not come back to me with “I can’t do that!!” Yes you can.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 12 days ago

A simple exercise to help believe the extraordinary is possible: Cloudbursting

Approach this with an open mind and belief that this is possible, forget instilled knowledge and knowledge that doesn’t help you that hinders your journey, it will not help you here. this is a strange esoteric practice that helps removes doubts about manifestation, the power of the mind and, much more.

Cloudbursting is a type of energy practice where you focus your intent on a cloud in the sky and visualize it disappearing, often times repeating mentally, “dissipate” “go with peace” “vanish” etc.
You can also visualize holding an eraser and visualize “erasing” the cloud.

This helps with your journey because let’s face it, if you can will clouds away, you can manifest whatever it is you’d like.

I’ve personally done it before and it was interesting to say the least, having many clouds disappear at my will and shaping the cloud roughly is fun.

Go try it out, do not come back to me with “I can’t do that!!” Yes you can.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 12 days ago

A simple exercise to help believe the extraordinary is possible: Cloudbursting

Approach this with an open mind and belief that this is possible, forget instilled knowledge and knowledge that doesn’t help you that hinders your journey, it will not help you here. this is a strange esoteric practice that helps removes doubts about manifestation, the power of the mind and, much more.

Cloudbursting is a type of energy practice where you focus your intent on a cloud in the sky and visualize it disappearing, often times repeating mentally, “dissipate” “go with peace” “vanish” etc.
You can also visualize holding an eraser and visualize “erasing” the cloud.

This helps with your shifting journey because let’s face it, if you can will clouds away, you can will into your DR, it’s all about belief.

I’ve personally done it before and it was interesting to say the least, having many clouds disappear at my will and shaping the cloud roughly is fun.

Go try it out, do not come to me with “I can’t do that!!” Yes you can.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 12 days ago

How to get to every state to shift: awake to the void

Before I teach, it’s imperative that you’re able to relax deeply. Several things hinder and even halt people to relax deeply which is an obvious road block to their journeys. Tight and restrictive fascia is a huge hindrance, I recommend releasing the thoracolumbar fascia, the hip flexor complex, diaphragm, sub occipital region, plantar fascia Sternum and anterior chest, and lastly the pelvic floor, whenever you do release these, make sure you have plenty of water during and after. The body has one continuous fascial web, so restriction anywhere creates compensation everywhere. But those seven are the highest-leverage release points for relaxation specifically.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Vagus nerve activation is another big one, most hum or do extended exhale breathing during meditation to stimulate the vagus nerve.

Exhale passively instead of forcing air out, doing otherwise keeps the diaphragm tense

Interoceptive disconnection can also hinder your ability to relax, a body scan meditation done with curiosity rather than trying to fix anything will most definitely help with this.

Anywho now to begin
Awake: you’re already here, this is the baseline

Mind awake body asleep (MABA): lie completely still. do a body scan from feet to head. Breathe slowly. If you feel heaviness, tingling, or numbness spreading through the body. that’s SP (sleep paralysis) onset. Let it happen without fear or excitement, let it happen without reaction.
A shortcut is WBTB, it’d get you there much faster.

Lucid dream:
From MABA: as hypnogogia appears, stay passive, when a scene stabilizes around you, stabilize the dream.
From normal sleep: through the day, perform reality checks whenever you do something or something happens to you (pulling out your phone). Genuinely question and check if you’re dreaming. Push a finger through your palm and read text twice. This habit will transfer over.
WBTB helps with both.

Astral projection (AP):
From MABA: imagine yourself rolling out of your body sideways. Or imagine floating upward (climb an imagined rope above you). Or simply intend “I am out” during the vibrational stage don’t get excited during the vibrational stage. Stay neutral.

From a lucid dream: Intend to “go higher” or fly straight up until the dreamscape dissolves. You’ll often land in AP territory or the void

The void state:
from MABA: Instead of building visuals, keep awareness in pure darkness. Don’t grasp for imagery, just exist in the black.
Your breath will slow, sense of body dissolves. you’ll feel like you’re floating in nothing.

From AP: stop moving, release all visualization, let the astral plane dissolve around you and sink passively into the void.

From a lucid dream: Close your dream eyes and intend darkness or walk into a dark room and don’t let your mind populate it.

You can get to all of these with deep meditation into MABA, which I highly recommend. In the astral plane, you can stay in there for however long it takes you to learn how to shift.

Happy shifting.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 13 days ago

The only guide you’d need to shift from every state of consciousness: awake to the void state

Before I teach, it’s best if you learn how to perform a reality check, this is a tool used by the lucid dreaming community to tell if you’re in your CR (awake) or a dream, once you reality check you become lucid so you can move on from there, the two most common ones people do is plug your nose to see if you can still breathe or not or push a finger through your palm. If you can breathe or push your finger through your palm then you’re in a lucid dream. some more quirky ones you can do are trying to fly and creation.

Awake to reality shift/dream/MABA: Count to 100 while relaxing and visualizing your DR in between realities, most suggest lying in a starfish position, at 100, you may feel a pull, give in and don’t resist it. most try awake methods, most fail, do not expect much from this but if you succeed, more power to you. If that didn’t work and you go to a dream or MABA instead, do not fret, that’s what I’ll talk about shortly.

Mind awake body asleep (MABA) to reality shift/dream: Hold a single visualization (a door, a scene, a person from your DR) .Don’t engage the hypnagogic imagery, observe it passively until one scene stabilizes. After that, step into the stable scene with intention. This is a lot of people go to when trying to shift, it’s a great place to try and has a high success rate.

Lucid dream to reality shift: stabilize the dream first (rub hands, touch ground) and find or create a portal (a door, mirror, dark hallway) (creation is easy in a LD, just intend it and it happens, just like flying) state clearly in your dream “take me to [DR name]” then walk through or fall backwards through the portal or door. If the dream resists, spin in place until it dissolves. intention carries you through the blank. This is also a great place to try from if you aren’t great at visualization.

Astral projection to reality shift/ the void: once in the astral and stable, hold the Dr in your mind as a vibrational target, not just a visual. Since AP is highly intention responsive, declare that you are in [DR]. You can also visualize a rope or cord connecting you to your DR and pull yourself along it
Alternatively: find darkness, sink into it (leads to the void), then redirect from there

The esteemed void state to reality shift: once in the void, don’t panic or try to fill it. say or think your DR affirmation and intend your way there. let the void build your DR around you rather than forcing visuals, You’ll feel a warmth or density shift. that’s the shift happening.

Universal tips: relaxed expectation beats tense effort every time.
Shifting from MABA and the void has the highest success rate because CR interference is minimal.
If you feel vibrations at any stage, that’s your cue to go still, breathe, and intend​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​.
Know exactly where you’re going.

Should I make a guide on how to get to each state?

Happy shifting.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 14 days ago

I have several points on why they do not

Point 1: People post so much questions about methods it’s insane. No you don’t need to jump through 100 hoops that are on fire, no you don’t need to write every minute detail about wherever you want to go down, and no, you do not need to worry about literally anything that may go on wherever you want to go. that leads me to my next point.

Point 2: metaphorically speaking, people worry and ask far too much about the obstacle they may or may not see over at the mile mark when they haven’t even taken their first step. Meaning that people do not experience or try and just fear of “what ifs”

Point 3: this sub has far too repetitive questions in general

Point 4: this subreddits partitioners are far too redundant with their questions

Anywho, those are my points, now as for the only shifting/astral projection/lucid dream method one could ever need (not saying these are the same, you can get too all of them from where the method takes you) is to simply deeply relax. focus on deepening your state of relaxation and will yourself to whatever reality you want to go to from there (yes, focusing on CR expectations of symptoms or CR symptoms in general grounds you to CR, who would have thought.) Happy shifting

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 19 days ago

Can we request a City ordinance to ban ALPR entirely? I feel like there should be warrant requirements, data retention limits, no federal sharing, public transparency reports.

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u/According_Bid_4462 — 21 days ago