Rumor: Market chatter suggests Google is working with AMD on a TPU project in the v10 generation - SA
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Rumor: Market chatter suggests Google is working with AMD on a TPU project in the v10 generation - SA

Screenshot from private SemiAnalysis report:

AVGO TPU Downward Revision
We are seeing lower TPU output in 2H26 than previous expectations. 2026 CoWos output for TPU v7x (Ironwood) is reduced by ~32k, reducing 2026 unit production by ~500k from 3.2mn to 2.7mn. TPU v8i (Sunfish) is also reduced by 5k wafers, reducing 2026 unit production by -80k. Ironwood upstream output now peaks in 2026 with a slight decline in run-rate in 2H, versus our prior forecast of a continued ramp from 2Q26 onwards. We believe this reduction is supply related and due to challenges ramping CoWoS-S. This brings total Broadcom 2026 CoWos output to 215k wafers from 250k previously.

For 2027, we also see lower TPU output than our previous expectation of 6mn units of TPU 7 and TPUi. This is driven by greater allocation towards other customers, with total Broadcom CoWos at ~460k wafers. Most notably there are 55k wafers (which is equivalent to 830k units TPU 8i Sunfish) allocated to MTIA 400 Iris in 2027. However, this remains in flux as Meta is known for abandoning orders, as we saw in May, where Meta agreed to cut its own Broadcom production allocation to support greater TPU supply for Google in exchange for access to TPU compute.
This could play out again and, if Meta abandons its allocation, this could be taken up by TPU. We also see slightly more allocation for OAI Jalapeno's ASIC. We will provide a more detailed model update soon.

AMD TPU Involvement
Market chatter suggests Google is working with AMD on a TPU project in the v10 generation. AMD's involvement would be the first real involvement in a custom Al ASIC project, despite having a custom silicon team. AMD has strong IP especially in advanced packaging and SolC. Additionally, CPU IP could also be a draw given Google and its customers are pushing for TPUS with on-packade CPU cores for RI workloads.

u/Addicted2Vaping — 6 days ago
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Three -ZFGs. No Memes. We’ve Reached Acceptance.

I’m not buying until Rob or Lemonwings comes back to tell us it’s still going lower.

u/Addicted2Vaping — 22 days ago

How realistic is 0.7 FTE outpatient FM after residency?

Hi everyone,

I’m an M3 finishing up my clerkships, and I’ve realized I’ve enjoyed my outpatient rotations the most. Right now I’m leaning toward outpatient FM. One thing I’ve been thinking about a lot is what I want my life to look like after residency. I enjoy medicine and find it interesting, but I also don’t want it to be my entire life. I’d rather have a career I like and still have plenty of time for family, hobbies, ect.

A lot of my preceptors have actually been pretty optimistic about where primary care is headed. They’ve talked about how AI scribes are starting to take some burden off documentation, and some have mentioned that inbox management tools(or managers) are starting to make the non-clinical workload a little more manageable. Obviously primary care still has plenty of challenges, but it’s been encouraging to hear people who have been doing this for years feel like things may be moving in the right direction.

I’ll be graduating with around $550k in loans, so my current(and only plan....) is to use RAP or whatever income-driven repayment plan and PSLF eligible employer. Because of that, I’ve been wondering how realistic it is to find a stable job around 30 hours a week.

Are there many outpatient FM jobs that offer 0.7–0.8 FTE schedules especially early in your career? Anyone else go this route. I tried to search through the sub but didn't find too much.

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u/Addicted2Vaping — 25 days ago

SemiAnalysis: ANTHROPIC WILL BE AN AMD CUSTOMER, ACCORDING TO THE PUBLIC GITHUB OF AMD’S SENIOR DIRECTOR OF AI

Rumor:

ANTHROPIC WILL BE AN AMD CUSTOMER, ACCORDING TO THE PUBLIC GITHUB OF AMD’S SENIOR DIRECTOR OF AI 🚨🚨

We explain the GitHub code and nuances below👇

In the AMD senior director’s public GitHub, the YAML code file lists Anthropic as a “customer” that is probably currently in the evaluation/testing phase. It shows that Anthropic has received the maximum 30 “priority boost points,” putting it in the same tier as existing hyperscale customers like Meta.

https://preview.redd.it/r0y6akv1t9eh1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9b00fb4464f7674628a72484cbf5ec39742c9c3

Note that Anthropic is still in the evaluation phase, and if AMD doesn’t announce Anthropic at its upcoming Advancing AI conference, that means u/AnushElangovan ’s FDE team has yet to address all of Anthropic’s concerns regarding software quality, and further improvement will be needed.

One general concern from the ML community is that, at the Kubernetes orchestration layer, AMD has yet to implement sufficient automated CI testing for its first-party Pollara NIC. Kubernetes is the layer used by most inference deployments worldwide. This isn’t because engineering doesn’t want to add it; rather, the team is blocked by underinvestment in internal CI capacity planning.

https://preview.redd.it/ce16psm6t9eh1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=859dc4e126c6f9e914af1b59d39ca2feed8f25d2

Source thread: https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2078975424709677359?s=20

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u/Addicted2Vaping — 1 month ago

ZTE among Chinese firms licensed to purchase Nvidia's H200 chips(and AMD), documents show

ZTE among Chinese firms licensed to purchase Nvidia's H200 chips, documents show

July 14 (Reuters) - A unit of telecoms gear maker ZTE Corp and two other Chinese firms are among the latest entities to receive U.S. approval to purchase advanced AI chips from Nvidia and AMD, according to documents and two sources familiar with the matter.

Nvidia's ‌H200 chip, one of its most powerful and used to train and run large AI models, has become a focal point of U.S.-China tech rivalry as Washington seeks to restrict China's access to advanced computing power.

ZTE Kangxun Telecom and server maker Maginfra have been permitted to purchase Nvidia's H200 chips, while Zhuhai Hengqin Yunxiang Zhisheng Network Technology, a subsidiary of ⁠cloud computing company Kingsoft, has been cleared to use some AMD chips that rival the H200, according to the documents and the sources.

The three firms, not previously reported to have received U.S. clearance, expand the known set of companies involved in the licensing process beyond China's largest internet groups and major electronics distributors.

Reuters reported in May that the U.S. had cleared around 10 Chinese firms, including Alibaba, Tencent, ByteDance and JD.com, to buy the Nvidia chips, but that no deliveries had been made at that time as the deals remained caught between approval requirements and scrutiny in both ‌Washington ⁠and Beijing.

However, some Chinese cloud firms have recently told partners and clients they may soon be able to obtain H200 chips, the sources said, indicating some progress in import reviews by Chinese authorities.

ZTE, Maginfra, Kingsoft, Nvidia, AMD and China's Ministry of Commerce did not respond to requests for comment. The U.S. Bureau of ⁠Industry and Security - the Commerce Department agency overseeing export controls - did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

Washington has steadily tightened restrictions on sending advanced AI chips to China since 2022, arguing the technology could ⁠support the PRC's military modernisation.

But the Trump administration has allowed sales of the H200, which first shipped to clients globally in 2024, with some arguing the exports promote U.S. technological dominance, while ⁠Nvidia has pushed to preserve access to one of the world's largest technology markets.

China, meanwhile, has encouraged domestic alternatives, creating uncertainty over whether U.S.-approved chip sales can proceed even after Washington grants export licenses.

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u/Addicted2Vaping — 1 month ago

Do we think Fidelity is going to offer the SK Hynix secondary?

BREAKING: SK Hynix has officially filed for a U.S. IPO, using ticker $SKHY

u/Addicted2Vaping — 2 months ago
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Secondary Offering

Has anyone heard about prelisting brokerage allocations through Fidelity/IBKR/Robinhood similar to IPO's. I'm sure it'll be heavily oversubscribed but I was wondering if there would be a chance.

I reached out to Fidelity yesterday and they hadn't heard anything yet.

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u/Addicted2Vaping — 2 months ago

PSLF and Chill

TLDR: med student graduating in 2028 with about $1.5M in assets and an expected $550k in federal loans, trying to choose a specialty that makes sense for PSLF/RAP, reasonable hours, and family life.

Hey everyone, looking for some honest advice on specialty choice and how to think about PSLF/RAP/lifestyle.

I’m a current med student graduating in June 2028. I’ll be 27 when I graduate and will probably have around $550k in federal loans. I already started taking out loans, so my understanding is that I should be grandfathered under the newer rules for PSLF/RAP.

For context, I know I’m in a very privileged financial position. I currently have around $1.5M in assets total when you include liquid assets and a property held in trust. I realize this is not a normal situation to be in, so I’m genuinely turning to this community to figure out the smartest way to handle this.

Financial picture:

  • Expected med school debt at graduation: ~$550k, all federal
  • Current liquid assets: ~$900k, mostly from semiconductor investments over the last year
  • Taxable brokerage: ~$600k
  • Roth IRA: ~$300k
  • Capital loss carryover: ~$80k
  • Property in trust worth around $500k–$600k
  • Future spouse will likely make around $120k–$150k and has no debt

My rough plan is to go for PSLF through residency and then continue working for qualifying employers until I hit 120 payments. I’m assuming I’ll use RAP or whatever the relevant income-driven plan is at that point. During residency, I’d try to max pretax deductions to keep AGI/payments as low as I reasonably can. I’m also aware that married filing separately will help.

The bigger thing for me is lifestyle. I don’t want medicine to be my entire life forever. I want to have kids, spend time with family, and eventually work as close as possible to the 30-hour PSLF minimum once I’m an attending. I’m obviously fine working for a qualifying nonprofit/government/academic/VA employer if that makes the plan work.

Specialty-wise, I’ve only done OBGYN and pediatrics so far, so I know I still need more exposure. I’m not against a 4-year residency, but I really do not want to pick something where fellowship is basically required to get a decent job or lifestyle.

Right now, the specialties I’m thinking about most are:

  • Family Medicine
  • Psychiatry
  • PM&R
  • Pathology

Main questions:

  1. For PSLF/RAP + reasonable lifestyle, which specialties would you seriously consider?
  2. Is FM the obvious answer if I want flexibility and no fellowship?
  3. Do psych, PM&R, and path still make sense for PSLF, or are those becoming more private practice/PE-heavy?
  4. Is neuro possible?
  5. Any other specialties I should be considering?
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u/Addicted2Vaping — 2 months ago

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) Presents at Bank of America 2026 Global Technology Conference Transcript

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Bank of America 2026 Global Technology Conference June 2, 2026 2:20 PM EDT

Company Participants

Jean Hu - Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer
Matthew Ramsay - Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Conference Call Participants

Vivek Arya - BofA Securities, Research Division

Presentation

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Welcome back to this BofA Global Tech Conference. I'm Vivek Arya from BofA's Semiconductor, Semi-Cap Equipment Research team.

I'm really delighted to have the team from Advanced Micro Devices join us this morning: Jean Hu, Chief Financial Officer; and Matt Ramsay, Head of Investor Relations. And I'll go through my questions, but please feel free to raise your hand if you would like me to bring up something.

But really warm welcome to you, Jean and Matt. I really appreciate you joining us...

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. Thank you.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

At the conference. And I guess, exciting times in AI and the semiconductor industry.

So maybe, Jean, as a start, just walk us through your state of the union, right? The growth has been very strong, right, since the start of the year. What has surprised you? Which are the areas that you think you are seeing kind of the best growth right now? And which are the areas which have been kind of pushed back because of this?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. First, thank you for having us. Thank you all for joining us.

I think the biggest change during the last few months is really the rise and inflection of agentic AI. You can see continued momentum from training to inference, from AI adoption, experimentation, to more adoption at scale. So when you look at that, agentic AI, it's not about answering questions anymore. It's about orchestration, it's about database access and a lot of tool execution. And all of those require significant CPU performance. And what we are seeing is very significant and incremental demand for our CPU platforms. That has been really exciting.

At the same time, we also are seeing the economics of AI keeps changing, right? With the token generation going up so quickly, all the customers are really focusing on performance, TCO, and they're really trying to figure out how to use different computes to address different application and workloads. So we see demand for GPU going up, CPU and also a lot of other ASIC LPUs.

I think from AMD's perspective, you know our Q1 performance. We had record CPU performance. CPU business grew more than 50%. We guided Q2 CPU performance is going to go up year-over-year 70%. That has been really exciting. So all those things really benefit us because we have been investing in GPU, CPU, adaptive compute, to also address literally end-to-end applications, from data center to clients, to gaming. That feels like right now all the engines are really driving the business revenue growth very significantly.

Question-and-Answer Session

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. So I think the growth in CPU has been kind of the biggest positive driver this year and we are kind of tracking this 2030 or end of the decade type of addressable opportunity, which I think you were the first to point out, right, would be $60 billion. Then said that doesn't sound that high enough, so they took it up to $100 billion. Then you took it up to $120 billion. And Jensen said, well, could be even more than that, right, up to $200 billion.

What do you think is the difference between all these forecasts? This is one of the most frequently asked questions, right, from the investment community. What is the right number? How does one kind of get to it? Is there like a simple unit and are we just all using different ASPs to get to a different number and everyone has the same unit growth?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

You're asking a lot of questions here. But I think maybe let's take a step back. You're absolutely right, AMD was the first one. Literally last year, we started to talk about how AI drive the demand of CPUs. So last November, when we had our Financial Analyst Day, we actually outlined how we think about this opportunity under the TAM.

We basically said, okay, we are thinking 3 segments. One is the traditional general compute, which we are all very familiar with, has been driving the traditional enterprise application across the board. The second category is the head node, which is really the communication with the GPUs. You want speed to make sure you have the communication. We also outlined agentic AI last November, which is still very early, but our team already see the early signs of agentic AI. That has been the fastest-growing market in our view. That's when we said, okay, we believe the TAM is going to grow 18% CAGR to $60 billion in 2030.

Remember, the general purpose CPU used to be just a single-digit growth. So that market expansion, we saw it earlier, but we never estimated that it's going to be so fast. The pace and the speed of agentic AI adoption has been tremendous. So when you look at January, February, March, all the enterprise adoption started. You see Anthropic, OpenAI, their revenue has been going up very significantly. The demand for CPU continued to go up across all our customers. That's when we had our earnings call, we actually updated our market forecast to more than $120 billion.

Frankly, it's still very early, right, when you think about agentic AI adoption. What we are seeing is with agentic AI, it's quite complex. When you have millions of operations you have to execute, when you have a lot of agents concurrently working on different tasks, you actually need a very high core count CPUs.

We don't know what other companies, how they think about the TAM and the SAM. For us, we go through the bottom-up and the top-down approach. We know at this particular point, we feel pretty good about more than $120 billion. But it's evolving so fast and more and more complex, so you should expect for the agentic AI portion of the market, because you have so many diverse workloads, so complex, the ASP will continue to increase because, increasingly, you need very high core count CPUs, high-performance CPUs.

Matt, I don't know if you have other you can add here.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Sure. First off, thank you, Vivek, for hosting us and for you guys all coming. I think there's a couple of things, Vivek, that I would maybe add to Jean's comments. One is, I think for this whole audience, and us included, we were trying to figure out when was the primary driver of AI CapEx going to go from almost predominantly large model training and start the shift towards inference being a primary driver of CapEx.

And we're seeing that happen in real time. And I think the more powerful thing for our business and maybe the more transformative thing architecturally is during that transition, you're seeing chatbot inference become agentic inference. And what agentic inference does as a workload, right, you daisy-chain or can catenate all these automated agentic flows together. And between each inference task, there's a lot of CPU diverse work. So post-processing and data, figuring out what to tell the AI to do next, often based on the result of the prior inference. Where do I get the data from for the next step? Is it in a cloud? Is it in an ERP system, a payment system, a CRM system, wherever? Get all of that data, come back. Post-process the data from that step and feed it into the next agentic step for the AI.

And that workload is quite diverse. And that's what we're seeing driving the demand for Turin now in real time. And as the order book fills in for the 256 core 2-nanometer Venice parts that are going to launch in a couple of months and be the primary workhorse for next year, that's where we're seeing the order book really expand.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. Is there a way to segment that market, whatever it happens to be, right, $120 billion, right, plus, in those 3 segments, Jean, that you described, kind of the traditional applications, the part of, let's call it, part of the AI cluster, and then agentic kind of stand-alone CPUs?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. I think the traditional segment, it's very clear, I think 2025, different third party, I would say that's a $25 billion to $30 billion market opportunity. It will continue to grow. As Matt has mentioned, you actually have agents doing more work on the traditional database. So that traditional general purpose CPU, it's probably steady growth, but not as high.

The head nodes which is working with the GPUs, you can see that's when people talk about the ratios. Traditionally, it's 1 head node CPU manage your 8 GPUs. And then become 2 to -- yes, it's getting more and more. So over time that ratio is changing. So we do think the head node segment CPU will also grow very fast, much faster than the traditional general CPU.

But the most exciting portion of the market is actually agentic AI. So agentic AI, you actually -- you are seeing agentic AI server rack sit in between the traditional servers and the GPUs. And those racks are handling all those different workloads to really make sure all the agentic agents work. That market, we think, whatever, the $120 billion or $200 billion market opportunity, is the majority of that large market.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Over 50% of that market you think is that...

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Agentic, yes. It is still very early right now. But if you just think about what Matt said, how complex, how dynamic those workloads will be. And we do see significant productivity improvement, especially software engineering side. Those are very complex workloads. You really need different core counts, you need really high performance, high core counts. You also need a simultaneous multi-thread, all those high-performance, you can manage millions of agents potentially.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Right. And the final question there is -- actually 2 last questions. One is x86 versus ARM. So if let's say that agentic opportunity does capture the dominant share of whatever that TAM number happens to be, what advantage, and if I dare ask, what disadvantage does x86 have versus ARM in capturing that?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. I'll start. Matt can talk about the more technical side, is the way AMD has been thinking about it, there has never been, "Oh, x86 architecture or ARM architecture." It's more about how we provide the best TCO for customers. So for us, the performance is number one.

And secondly, what we have been trying to build is the breadth and the depth of platform portfolio. So if you look at our CPU platform, we have gone through 5 generations at the Turin, and the Venice is next generation. We had the breadth from the core count to 8, to 16 core count addressing enterprise applications to the Venice will have 256 core count.

So for us, we have all different configurations, design points to meet all the different compute to give them best TCOs. I don't know technically you can provide them.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Yes, Vivek, I think they're, as Jean talked about, the 3 different buckets, right? The traditional server workloads for enterprise, I think there is an affinity towards x86 because of the codebase. And many of those servers are deployed on-prem, some of them are deployed in third-party cloud. But it's basically the same workload depending on where you want to deploy it. And I think as these agents generate more traffic to all those traditional systems, then the x86 ecosystem is well positioned there.

Then you have the head nodes. I think that what you really need in head nodes is really high single-thread performance, really high bandwidth to -- I don't know, it's not a technical term, but feed the beast, of these really expensive accelerators that are in the box, right?

We will do our own head nodes for Helios. I think our large competitor in their NVL racks will basically do their own head nodes. And then there's a bunch of different XPU programs that are going to be launched by the industry. And I think when we have those conversations with customers, it's much more about what is the performance of your CPU such that I get the best utilization out of this really expensive XPU that I'm buying? It's not an Intel or AMD or x86 versus ARM conversation. It's a, what's the best server part?

And then when you talk about these agentic racks, they're -- it's really about how many concurrent agents can you run per rack or per megawatt of compute. And as Jean mentioned, really, really high-thread and core-count products, I think our road map is differentiated there.

And another thing that doesn't get mentioned but I think is important, is if you think about the dollars of CapEx that are going to come into the server market, the mission-critical nature of these systems, both head node and agentic racks, some of the RAS features and the security features of the x86 ecosystem, it's not an x86 architecture thing, it's just we and our x86 competitor have been put through the paces by every hyperscaler and most enterprises on all of these security features for a decade. And you might imagine, you get into these automated flows where those agents have access to mission-critical data, and you want to really have servers that have robust security features there. So we feel we get brought into essentially every RFQ that's in the industry for these servers, and I think we're positioned to win a very high percentage of them.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. Now your x86 competitor has their own fab, right? They are adding up -- or they're planning to add a lot more capacity on the server CPU side. I guess this year, every CPU is being sold, right? But do you think that there is a scope for share shifts given that your competitor has incremental capacity to devote to this? Or do you think you will be adequately served by your foundry ecosystem?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. We have been very pleased with our share gain trajectory. I think the last Q1 we just announced, we actually, from a value share perspective, we got to like 46%. When you think about it, is our success is really tied together with TSMC. From day 1, we have been using TSMC. We worked together with our chiplet design, with the packaging technology to come up with the best performance server platforms. That continues to benefit us going forward.

We have been planning for this ramp since last year. So if you look at the Q1 performance and the Q2 guidance, when we guide year-over-year 70% increase, and a lot of you actually know is right, the wafer started 6 or 9 months ago. So it is the early planning, how we work with TSMC to make sure we get support to continue to drive the ramp of the supply.

The demand is tremendous, supply is still tight. So I think for us, for this year, next year, every supply we can get, we can provide to our customers. We're going to continue to do that. It's the planning beyond the 2027 right now, for the longer term, I think we'll continue to work with TSMC and prioritize data center as how we drive the business growth going forward.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Vivek, one little thing that I would add to what Jean mentioned there is when we have conversations with the investor community on this particular topic, I think one thing that I've noticed is supply is tight. 3-nanometer is tight. There's a lot of other areas that are tight. And we're -- I think we're very well positioned with the relationships Lisa has personally with the executives in that space to get maybe more than our fair share of the incremental. But it is tight.

I think what I've noticed is maybe the investor scoping of what Lisa and the team initially asked for in '26 and '27 maybe didn't imagine how much growth we had already planned for in supply. So things are tight, but we've already asked for and already been sort of "granted" from TSMC, I think is a different -- I think we're having the right conversation there, but maybe not at the right starting point from what we were sort of allocated initially.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. And then final one on the CPU side, on price. So you mentioned 50% plus growth in Q1 and then 70% plus. I think there was a sense that one could sustain this, right, for the rest of the year. How much of this, Jean, is pricing versus unit growth?

And then let me just add quickly Part B to that. As that agentic, right, that third segment becomes a bigger portion, do you think that can command much higher ASPs? When I talk with the ARM camp, they are talking about ASPs in the $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 range, which is well above the ASPs, right, that AMD is able to get. So just unit versus ASP and just the trend of ASP.

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. I think as you mentioned, both the more than 50% growth in Q1 and that we guided Q2 70% year-over-year, more than 70% year-over-year increase, 2/3 of that actually are unit growth. So majority of our revenue growth actually comes from unit expansion, versus ASP increase.

But to your point on the ASP going forward, especially with agentic AI, is a great point, is what we're seeing is we're at the early innings of agentic AI adoption. You can already see, with the software engineering part of agentic work -- autonomous agentic workflow, you really need very high performance, high core count CPUs. That tends to have a higher ASP.

So I think generation over generation, when we go to 2-nanometer with Venice and the future generation to handle complex workload to provide the performance, you tend to see the CPU price to continue to increase.

The other thing I would say is because we have really large platform, the CPU ASP is really determined by the mix and by the different configurations for different workloads. So it's not necessarily -- for enterprise, the per core ASP is very high, but because the core counts are relatively low, so ASP is relatively low. But the gross margin is great. So it's very nuanced from our business because of how big our platform is and how complex or different design point we are helping our customers.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. We spent 2/3 of the time on CPU, so let's talk about GPU now. So you are at the start of launch of a major rack scale system to your portfolio. Maybe give us a status update of how you're feeling. When your competitor launched their first large scale-up product, it took a while, right, for the industry to get ready, liquid cooling, right, and all those things to get ready. So how do you think about your progress so far? How excited are you about the second half?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. We are on track. We sampled MI450. We expect to be launching in second half or Q3 starting point, and Q4. As you know, we have been preparing for this launch for a long time. We acquired ZT Systems in 2024. The whole reason we're acquiring ZT Systems is to help us to add capabilities in system-level design. And we also have worked on the networking side.

So the whole team has been working to prepare this launch. We know it's very hard. It's very complex, very hard. But from an execution perspective, our team has been on track, meticulously preparing for all different aspect launch, not only technology, software side, but more importantly, the supply chain side, how you make sure the design redundancy with all the components, but also supplies, even very small components, that you have to make sure you have supplies. That has been this whole team's execution track record. We feel pretty good right now.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Yes. Vivek, I think we're anticipating, as Jean said, the -- we already have sampled and we have a number of customers that have full Helios racks in their own data center running their full production workload now and testing and doing all those things that you would expect us to be doing at this point in time.

I mean we learned -- the customers learned a lot, we learned a lot from some folks that blazed the trail, as you mentioned. And we're going to really focus on a concentrated set of ODMs as we launch for the first number of months until we get up to scale. And not like a few systems, but billions of dollars of scale. And then we'll be expanding the ODM ecosystem pretty significantly as we move through next year and get towards the MI500 series and whatnot.

So we feel good about where we are. The initial work that the customer base is doing in their own labs with sampled systems has gone very, very well. And so now it's about let's get -- we'll see a pretty significant jump in the fourth quarter of revenue and a fairly significant jump in Q1. And then we'll kind of go from there. So it is wood, so -- touch wood, everything is going exactly as we hoped it goes.

I mean when you're doing a thing like this, there's -- day to day, there's always something, right? But our job is to keep the duck calm on the top as we kick on the bottom, and get ready to ramp this thing starting in Q3.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. When you've been asked, Jean, or Lisa has been asked, you've always mentioned the opportunity for multi-gigawatt scale deployments. I think we have heard about 2 of them, OpenAI and Meta. You think there is still the scope for us to be pleasantly surprised that more such announcements even for '27? Or do you think that just given how tight the industry is, that more incremental announcements could be further spaced out on that?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. We talked about we're really pleased to lead our partnership, very long-term partnership, with both OpenAI and Meta. Last year, we established those relationships and we actually see the forecast from those customers are actually above our original plan for 2027.

I think one of the key milestones we're really focusing on this year is to continue to expand and deepen the customer adoption of MI450. We definitely expect there will be other mega, gigawatt customers. We have both across the board the hyperscale customers, the model companies and the even AI-native companies who we have been engaging, working with. I think it's important for us to continue to expand this customer base, and with the large scale deployment.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. Makes sense. And then how do you expect the 2 customers you have announced to allocate market share? Because they have a number of supplier options. I know you have a somewhat unique engagement, right, with them through the granting of warrants and whatnot. But just if you set that aside, how is your visibility into getting, I think they're 2-gigawatt each, right, from those customers for next year?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. Vivek, as you know, the lead time for MI450 is quite long. So we really have to start to plan and have the orders from customers for next year for the second half launch in the next year.

I think the supply chain overall is tight next year. But since we have been preparing to support our customers, we do want to ensure we get supplies for what they need. I think both are coming higher than our original plan, but we are continuing to increase the supply. Those are 2 of our most important anchor customers.

Of course, we also have a warrant, which we're going to be able to share the upside if we get more revenue. Our [ start ] price is higher, they will share upside too. That is absolutely the common interest for both companies that want to drive the adoption of MI450. We feel pretty good with the both of them. We think we can get the right supplies to support them.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. Do you think having someone like a TSMC is almost adding a level of discipline, right, in the ecosystem? Because it's just harder to double count if everyone has to kind of go to the same source, right, to get -- I mean I know it sounds obvious, but do you see that also?

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

They're quite disciplined. I think they'll continue to be. I mean these are sensitive topics for us to talk about in these forums. But like we really, really, really appreciate the support that TSMC is giving us as a partner and the way that they're working with us to bring more capacity online to support not just the Helios and 450 growth, but the significant server TAM expansion that we're seeing and planning for, not just for this year, but for all of next year and conversations going into 2028 on wafer capacity to support demand.

So we really appreciate the work that they're doing on our behalf. And I think they're being, as they've always been, disciplined in the way that they bring capacity online and do their diligence 2 or 3 levels deep in the customer base to understand where the organic demand is coming from to support the capacity that they're bringing on.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Makes sense. And then the final one, Jean, is on just memory cost inflation, right? I guess when you wake up and see DRAM -- I'm sure DRAM price is not what you see when you wake up, but when you see that the cost inflation every day, is that a good thing because it gives you more pricing power? Or is that a bad thing because now you have to absorb that cost and hunt for more supply? What are kind of the pros and cons of that memory cost inflation for you?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

It's really a great question. First, for us, right, we really want to make sure if there's a longer-term agreement with our suppliers, we can secure the capacity. That is the number one thing. When you have a large business at our scale, you have to plan ahead.

And secondly, we think more strategically. If there's memory cost increase, we do need to figure out a way to share with our customers to absorb that increase together. I think the most important thing for us is we actually don't want to use the shortage of control of memory to just increase the price. We want to make sure customers help us to absorb the cost increase, but we are more strategic with the long-term relationship.

I think from an industry perspective, the memory cost increase at this kind of level we have never seen, right? The price is really high. I think it does increase the CapEx spending for end customers where they spend the CapEx. I think in the longer term, just like all the industry, you always have a new capacity add up. You also have a new innovation on how you utilize memory more efficiently. It will figure out itself in the longer term. That's what we believe.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got it. But do you have long-term agreements in place for the majority of your memory needs? Or do you think that this is a cyclical high, right, and maybe there will be kind of more normalization of that input cost?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. From a planning perspective, because our manufacturing cycle is so long, if we plan for the MI450 ramp this year, we had to start to talk to our suppliers last year or year before. Similar situation is right now, not only with a very tight supply chain environment, not only we're planning 2027, we are planning 2028. So for us to continue to make sure we can support our ambitious plan to grow the company, we have to plan ahead.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Vivek, in the server market and in the PC market, the majority of -- the vast majority of the DRAM is actually acquired by our OEM and ODM partners and the hyperscalers themselves, right? That DRAM doesn't run through our P&L. And we work really, really hard with all of the customer base to try to make sure that we're matching like the memory supply that they're able to get and the CPU supply -- or the GPU supply that we're able to provide together to where there's not mismatching of supply in the industry or hoarding of anything. And so we've been working really hard on that.

But there's certainly increased input costs to end-devices in certain parts of the consumer and gaming market where there have been some anticipated market impacts. And I think we've given you guys our current view of that in the guidance that we've talked about. But we're working really hard on behalf of the whole customer base to try to make sure that the memory pricing and the matching of components is relatively seamless in a time like this.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Got you. And just final question before we close. When you look across your customer base, Jean, how far is the visibility like that they are willing to provide to you now? And when you get that, what are you doing differently in your business operationally to kind of deliver to those?

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Yes. I think because the supply chain environment is really tight, customers really plan ahead. So we have a very good visibility into 2027 and beyond. I think our customers and ourselves, especially when you think about the data center investment, very large CapEx planning, very long planning cycle, they actually plan way ahead. 2027, we feel really good about both the visibility of the demand side and the visibility of the supply side. And of course, 2028 and beyond, that everybody is working on.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Okay. On that positive note, thank you so much, Jean.

Jean Hu
Executive VP, CFO & Treasurer

Thank you.

Matthew Ramsay
Vice President of Financial Strategy & Investor Relations

Thanks, Vivek.

Vivek Arya
BofA Securities, Research Division

Appreciate your time.

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