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european controllers, was feast trainable or mostly innate?

asking the folks who went through eurocontrol or national ans selections. the multitasking and memory parts of feast look brutal from the outside. did people around you prep seriously or just show up? and did prep actually separate the passes from the fails?

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u/Akara91 — 2 days ago

those who passed cut-e or dlr for the cadet programmes, did training the test mechanics actually help?

same debate in every cadet thread: half the people say aptitude tests cant be trained, the other half grinded mental math and memory drills for months and credit exactly that. if you went through easyjet/ryanair/lufthansa selections, what did you do to prep and would you do it again?

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u/Akara91 — 2 days ago

Brain Preflight — the aptitude tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots, as a daily trainer

Answer: Brain Preflight turns the cognitive tests airlines use to select cadet pilots (timed mental math, working memory, spatial orientation, instrument monitoring, and a combined multitasking test) into a daily trainer: 17 short timed exercises, a mock exam mode, and a per-skill weakness breakdown, scored on the same 1-9 applicant-normed scale the real selections use. I'm the developer.

Better: it's not abstract brain training, these are the actual selection-test mechanics (COMPASS/pilotest style), fully offline, no account needed.

Cost: free tier is 5 sessions a day, with optional rewarded ads. Premium unlimited + full diagnostic: 7.99/mo or 44.99/yr.

App Store: https://apps.apple.com/app/id6794363864

Transparency: solo developer. Website: https://aakk91.github.io/ · Privacy Policy: https://aakk91.github.io/preflight-legal/privacy-policy-en.html · Terms: https://aakk91.github.io/preflight-legal/terms-en.html · Contact: brainpreflight@gmail.com

u/Akara91 — 3 days ago

building a hyper niche ios app solo, the audience turned out way bigger than the niche

im a solo dev. my app trains the cognitive tests airlines use to select cadet pilots, timed mental math, memory sequences, multitasking. i assumed my audience was the few thousand people a year who apply to cadet programs.

what im finding instead: the same cognitive formats show up in tons of other selections, train drivers, air traffic control, corporate hiring assessments. and beyond that theres a whole crowd of people with zero career reason who just want to know how theyd score on the thing that filters airline pilots.

so the niche i built for might be the smallest slice of the actual market, which makes me rethink who the app is really for.

the app is called Brain Preflight (cant put links in this sub)

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u/Akara91 — 3 days ago

Do memory techniques survive time pressure and a second task running?

I build a small iPhone app that recreates the aptitude tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots, and the memory sections are the part I keep wondering about for this community. They are short sequences, letters, numbers, instrument readings, recalled after a delay, under a clock, and sometimes while a tracking task is running at the same time.

Loci and the major system are built for depth: long lists, encoded carefully, retrieved in order. The pilot test format seems to attack exactly the opposite end, no time to encode anything elaborately, and your attention is split while the items arrive.

So genuine question for people who train these techniques seriously: do they still give you an edge when the format is fast, small and hostile to deliberate encoding? Or does trained memory collapse back to normal short term capacity once a second task is running? Has anyone here actually tried a speeded battery like this?

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u/Akara91 — 5 days ago
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Controllers who took FEAST, how close is it to the pilot selection batteries?

I build a small iPhone app that recreates the aptitude tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots, the COMPASS and cut-e style batteries. On paper FEAST looks like a close cousin: tracking tasks, divided attention with things to catch at the edge of the screen, short term memory sequences, mental math on a clock, spatial orientation.

Controllers who sat FEAST, how close is that impression to reality? Is the weighting different, more memory and less psychomotor, more raw speed? And did anything actually help you prepare, or is it one of those batteries where you walk in and find out what you are made of?

Asking because there seems to be very little FEAST specific prep material out there compared to the pilot side, and I want to understand how big the overlap really is.

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u/Akara91 — 5 days ago

Does grinding runs change how you handle pressure in general?

I build a small iPhone app that recreates the cognitive tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots, and the thing that fails most candidates is not the difficulty, it is the clock. The math is easy arithmetic, but every question has seconds on it, and one miss tends to snowball into three because people tilt.

Speedrunners are the only community I can think of that deliberately trains executing under a live timer for hours, with a reset always one mistake away. Managing the choke on a PB pace final split is basically part of the craft, and nobody else practices that on purpose.

So genuine question: does it carry over? Are you noticeably calmer than the people around you in exams, job interviews, driving tests, anything with a clock and one shot? Or does the composure stay attached to the game you grind and vanish everywhere else?

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u/Akara91 — 5 days ago

Is the multitasking from this game a real skill or does it only exist in the client?

I build a small iPhone app that recreates the multitasking tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots. One section makes you track a moving target with one hand while answering mental math and memory prompts, with gauge alarms on the side. Most people completely fall apart the first time they try it.

StarCraft players are the group I would bet on before anyone else. Macro and micro in parallel, scouting while producing, camera hopping between bases and fights, injects on a timer in your head, all under a clock that never stops. From the outside it looks like exactly the same skill.

So genuine question for people with serious ladder time: does it leave the game with you? Do you notice the multitasking when driving, working, cooking, playing other genres? Or is it hotkey muscle memory that stays in the client and never transfers? Curious whether the skill is general or game specific.

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u/Akara91 — 5 days ago
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Does limb independence transfer to anything outside drumming?

I build a small iPhone app that recreates the multitasking tests airlines use to screen cadet pilots. One section makes you track a moving target with one hand while answering mental math and memory prompts at the same time. Most people completely fall apart the first time they try it.

Ever since I started working on it I keep wondering if drummers would be unusually good at this. Limb independence, keeping time, reading a bar ahead while playing another, it feels like the same skill dressed differently.

So genuine question for people who drum seriously: do you notice your multitasking transferring to other stuff, like flight sims, gaming, driving, holding a conversation while doing something else? Or does it stay locked to the kit? Curious whether the skill is general or drumming specific.

edit: for the curious ones, the app is called Brain Preflight

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u/Akara91 — 5 days ago

Anyone here tried the actual tests airlines use to screen pilots? Curious how HB scores translate

Airline cadet selection is basically a harder Human Benchmark. Reaction time but you track a moving target with it. Number memory but the digits arrive while you do arithmetic. Sequence memory but under a clock that adapts to you. And one test HB has no equivalent for: tracking plus mental maths plus gauge alarms, all at once.

The interesting part is the scoring. You are not ranked against everyone, you are ranked against other applicants, so the bar is people who trained for weeks.

I rebuilt these mechanics in a free iOS app, Brain Preflight. I am the developer. Not linking it since I do not want this to read as an ad, you can find it on the App Store. Free tier is 5 sessions a day.

If anyone here tries it I am genuinely curious whether high HB scores carry over. My bet is reaction and memory transfer, the multitask one humbles everyone the first time.

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u/Akara91 — 7 days ago
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How airline pilot selection tests differ from the batteries discussed here

Airlines screen cadet pilots with a battery that is public in structure but rarely discussed outside aviation forums (COMPASS, cut-e, ADAPT, the DLR test in Germany). It is not an IQ test and the gap is interesting.

What it measures: working memory under load, timed arithmetic, spatial orientation and mental rotation, and divided attention, meaning a tracking task running while you answer maths and watch for gauge alarms at the same time.

What it ignores: verbal knowledge, culture, anything untimed. Almost every subtest is speeded, and the cut score is normed against the applicant pool, not the general population.

The part with no equivalent in the usual batteries is the multitasking one. Matrices tests never ask you to hold a target on screen while doing arithmetic. People who score very high on matrices often collapse there, which makes it a decent probe of something the standard tests miss.

Disclosure so nobody wastes time: I built a free iOS app that rebuilds these mechanics, so I am not neutral. I am mostly curious how this sub scores on the multitasking one compared to cadet applicants, and where you think it breaks as a measure.

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6794363864

u/Akara91 — 2 days ago