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is the intelligence difference that big between different iqs

people say someone with an iq of 100 lives in a different world that someone with an iq of 130. But is that really true?

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u/East-Cancel-5050 — 5 days ago

Which cognitive ability gives off the biggest “damn, this person is smart” effect?

I’ve been thinking about this because my cognitive profile is pretty uneven but probably also due to the fact that English is not my native language:

VCI N/A | FRI 148 | VSI 132 | QRI N/A | WMI 94 | PSI 114

And I’m curious which cognitive ability people actually perceive as the most impressive or “tuff” in real life.
For example:

VCI – being insanely articulate, having a huge vocabulary and being able to explain very complex ideas effortlessly. Probably the most obvious “this guy is intelligent” trait in a conversation.

FRI – seeing the underlying logic of completely new problems and figuring things out without being taught the method. Someone who does this extremely well might just randomly say something and you think “wait, how tf did he figure that out?” This is probably my favourite ability, not because it’s my highest, but because I feel like this represents my original idea of Intelligence most deeply.

VSI – basically having a 3D model of things in your head and being able to mentally manipulate complicated structures.

QRI – intuitively seeing mathematical relationships and deriving solutions instead of relying on memorized formulas.

WMI – having an absurd mental workspace and being able to keep and manipulate a lot of information simultaneously.

PSI – extremely fast and accurate processing, where you just seem to instantly understand and react to simple information.

So I’m wondering:
Which one gives the strongest “damn, this person is actually smart” effect to you?
And maybe more interestingly: which ability do you think is actually the most impressive/“tuff” at an extreme level, even if it isn’t necessarily the one people consciously associate with intelligence?

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u/Academic_Memory_8543 — 5 days ago

145 quant reasoning but 120 working memory on core

what is wrong w me im an iqlet I get an 11 sequential span when they're presented visually but for listening I cant pay attention at all and get like a 7 its so over

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u/Flashy-Disk311 — 4 days ago

Did my IQ change?

A few years ago, midway through college, I was trying to figure out why I was doing poorly academically, and I wondered if IQ was the cause. I remembered seeing a score of 119 on some paperwork from when I was 15 or 16, but I wasn't sure it was accurate or representative. So I took the AGCT and a 1980s SAT, scoring 130 and 1300 respectively.

The real cause turned out to be ADHD, and I started medication (and also forgot about this sub mostly).

I'm 24 now and recently took the old SAT again for fun, using form 5H from the older files list. I scored 1470 (750 V, 720 M). I haven't taken any other IQ assessments since, but I did take a cold GRE diagnostic test since I’m planning to do a masters next year. Scored a 336 (170 V, 166 Q). I don’t know if this is higher or lower than a 1470 old SAT. Did my IQ change post-medication?

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u/JohnDoeRandomName — 4 days ago

Quite Disappointed with results

Approximately a week ago I made the bold decision to take an iq test that had to be specifically accommodated to not include language, mainly due to the fact because my linguistic vocabulary is not that outstandingly BRIGHT in german. Meaning… That the questions were all pattern-recognition based.

I ended up scoring a 110. Now, this leaves me to wonder: should I just keep on living my life as it is and not let the thoughts of my disappointing iq score consume me? Or instead, resort to criticising my mothers unfortunate mating choices? Its definitely bamboozling.

Im unsure on If I should interpret this test as fully credible, because it only measured pattern-recognition. But oh well, after all, the average is average for a reason, and If I take it literally, I didn’t expect to be that much of an intellectual fella either.

P.s: Yes, I think its undeniably evident that a quarter of what I wrote is ment to be satirical.

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u/Fit_Illustrator_5384 — 5 days ago

Confusion over varying results IQ tests/what IQ actually means in terms of ability? (ASD)

I'm 28 years old now, and I was diagnosed late with autism (ASD 1) at age 21. I'm grateful for the diagnosis because getting diagnosed let me find resources to help me communicate better/understand the social world better, but I'm also confused - because I recently took an official IQ test that placed me at 135. When I was in kindergarten, I was IQ tested for learning disabilities because I only spoke at home and refused to speak at school, and in kindergarten, when they finally convinced me to participate in the test, my IQ came out at 143. I was not identified as autistic at that time, despite what were in hindsight pretty obvious signs. As an adult I'm testing as 135 not 143.

I don't care so much about whether or not I'm smart, I just don't understand the advancements in IQ that have been made in the past two decades and why there's such a huge difference in the numbers.

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u/rustycrabcake — 4 days ago

Completely baffled by this logical reasoning question from SOVA: 'Which option follows the same pattern as those shown?'

Can anyone explain the solution to this logical reasoning question, apparently the solution is >!the lower right hand box in the second image!<but can't for the life of me see how, and no reasoning is given in the test.

u/Eliptico101 — 5 days ago

Psychometricians specializing in young kids: give me your rant on the pros and cons of testing littles! (My own took the SB5 and had a wild spread, which I have the urge to attribute to, well, being a toddler.)

We had my daughter tested right at the earliest sign the testing parameters permitted, and she hit the ceiling on several areas but I'll just say her "working memory" rated like a goldfish and everything else was somewhere in between. It was long, she lost interest, and I'm sure you can fill in the gaps.

We had her assessed because I wanted more of the contextual picture of how other things (her speech articulation, etc) might layer in with her cognitive, so I could best support her. But having sat through the thing and observed, I can't really see where a toddler could score higher than their true read but can totally see where they could score way lower.

Anyone else have thoughts? We might need to have her assessed again, with a different measure, closer to school starting, so she can get into a program we really like (great price, great curriculum, great ratio...) but I'm grumbling toward that unenthusiastically.

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u/PinkCheekedGibbon — 5 days ago

I really miss the simpler times 8 years ago when i thought working hard was all it took to become intelligent and good at something.

Learning that iq is substantially hereditary has been a double edged sword. On one hand, it made me more understanding of my deficits and i am less hard on myself when concepts don’t come easily. i also became a more empathetic person in general. If i happen to find someone who is struggling academically i no longer assume that they haven’t expended enough effort like i used to back when i was a child, i always consider the possibility that they need a different approach in explaining the concept and it’s ok if they never fully grasp it since it just might be an inherent limitation.

However, learning about the limits of my control has made me question the value of my effort in learning any skill before i’ve even given myself the chance to find out what i’m capable of. It has become an automatic reaction to the initial frustration that happens when trying to acquire a new skill. I really can’t help it it’s become a knee jerk reaction.

At least before, I had a belief that in-spite of being unrealistic, it still gave me something incredibly valuable: the freedom to try. I would struggle with something and think “I’m not good at this yet, but maybe I can become good at it if I work hard enough.”
“If even a single thing person out there managed to figure it out, then why wouldn’t i?” Hence, my frustration tolerance was a lot higher.

i have come to learn that people differ significantly in their innate abilities,that there is very little i can control, and that effort doesn’t guarantee equal outcomes. And somewhere along the way, that information seems to have transformed into a personal sentence.

Instead of thinking, I don’t know how far I can go, I find myself thinking, What if I’ve already reached my limit?

I honestly have no idea why i’m posting this, not even sure what i want to hear, maybe i just needed a place to vent.

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u/midnight-OwlShinobi — 5 days ago

What is wrong with IQ?

He had a spikey profile. He scored 143 on quant section. 132 on crystalized and a mere respectable 118 on fluid. It sure about VCI.

He also mentions factors that can affect your scores on the day.

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u/Humble_Aardvark_2997 — 14 days ago

IQ Test Confirmation?

My parents recently sent me some old papers and things after cleaning out my childhood home. Among those papers was a Slosson HIT test I took when I was around 8 years old, which had an IQ at the top listed at 129.

I remember going into my aunt's (who was a school psychologist) basement for an afternoon and taking a bunch of tests but I never knew why. My parents later told me that I was being evaluated for learning disabilities and ADHD as I was doing poorly in school at the time. Anyway, I never knew the results until now. My parents never told me.

While I know I'm not a genius, 129 is fairly high, roughly 96th percentile. I was surprised because I have always felt really average, never considered myself especially smart.

Well, I was curious to see if this held up into adulthood, so I just took the Mensa online test and did pretty well, I guess, at 131.

I'd say these two test confirm each other, right? I probably fall somewhere between the 95th to 98th percentile or 125-133?

Not super meaningful for my life now, but just an interesting fact I suppose.

u/Strong-Mango-1348 — 14 days ago

Discrepancy between Digit Span forward and back and sequencing.

I have ADHD and a very poor working memory but yet my sequencing score is 3 SD's above my other digit spans scores. What's the reasoning for this?

u/the_ultimate0 — 14 days ago

Why is my Iq low in some fields and ot the others

To begin with , I took core and I scored at the VCI 99.6th percentile (140) and the score for the fluid reasoning index was 99.1th percentile(135) ,my psi was at the top 97.7th percentile as well as my QRI was at the 98th .but coming to both my WMI and VSI my scorings were suspicious, like for the WMI it was at the 50th(it says 100 basically)percentile and my VSI was in the 75th(110) percentile. So why does the spiky profile happened. And FYI I was diagnosed with adhd medically and have been confirmed to have high functioning autism. So am I doing the test wrong? Or is the test itself untrustworthy ? Hewp im confused

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u/dio_Leg55 — 14 days ago

Opinions on RIOTIQ?

I recently purchased the full RIOTIQ test, and am going to take it soon. I was wondering how the r/cognitiveTesting community felt about this test.

If you have happened to take this test, what was your experience like? Any particular opinions on the specific indices and their subtests? How did your performance compare to your other IQ-related scores?

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u/UsedFlower831 — 13 days ago

(update) I don't understand why I'm stupid if my parents are smart

My dad has a job where he's upper middle class in salary writing on equipment in filmmaking. My parents met in the film industry. My grandfather was the famous statistician George E. P. Box. I went to a college prep school and struggled academically throughout my highschool years. I often plaigarized in my essays and relied on my mom to do large amounts of my assignments in ELA and history. I was given ritalin in 10th grade for potential ADD and had minimal results from it. 11th grade was COVID lockdown and I did virtual school. At this point I completely phoned in my classes and have no idea how to do algebra II (or college algebra) or any math surpassing that. I got accepted into a college with a 96% acceptance rate with my grades from my first two years of HS. I only lived there for a year then commuted afterwards. Now I'm 23 and live with my parents. I've never had an IQ test or diagnosis of a mental disorder, though I had a counselor in HS suggest I'm on the autism spectrum because of social awkwardness and analytic thinking. I've gotten into nootropics hoping that a mix of creatine, nootropic supplements, and full dose of effexor could treat depression and brain fog and I've had so so results from over 7 months of it. I've considered drug use being the only way to numb my depression and suicidality from my hopeless situation.

I can't understand how if my parents are smart and functional how did I become essentially a mental vegtable. And why has no friend, family member, or therapist been able to give an explanation or antidote to my mental problems. Would an IQ test be helpful for what job is realistic for me given my mental capacities? What best explanation is there for my intelligence and what other advice could you give me in my situation?

This year I was diagnosed with the KIF1A genetic mutation which can manifest in terms of cognitive impairment. on my physical evaluation from a doctor, he says I meet the physical symptoms that align with this mutation. Although many with this mutation are physically disabled I am concerned how this rare mutation effects my cognitive deficits. I had my blood drawn for research. Aug 19 I will get an MRI scan for further investigation.

Last, Here's what I've found on how it KIF1A effects neurology

KIF1A-Associated Neurological Disorder (KAND) fundamentally affects how neurons function

“KIF1A encodes a protein of the same name, part of a group of proteins called kinesins. It serves as a molecular “motor,” transporting cargo (like nutrients and other molecules needed for nerve cell function) up and down nerve fibers. Variants in KIF1A can disrupt this transport in different ways, impairing nervous system function. For example, KIF1A may not attach well to the cargo, or it may fall apart structurally and be unable to travel. But other research suggests that the KIF1A protein can sometimes build up in cells and become toxic.”

I had an EEG and MRI and found nothing significant going on.

Since all of this I've been diagnosed FOX-P4 genetic mutation, another rare genetic mutation. According to AI

"A mutation in the FOXP4 gene (Forkhead Box P4) causes an ultra-rare genetic disorder typically characterized by neurodevelopmental delays, language impairment, short stature, and congenital anomalies. FOXP4 is a transcription factor that acts as a genetic switch to regulate tissue and cell development during embryonic growth. [1, 2, 3]

Most identified human cases are monoallelic (heterozygous/inherited from one parent or occurring de novo), which follow an autosomal dominant pattern. However, biallelic (homozygous/inherited from both parents) loss-of-function mutations also exist and result in a much more severe form of the disease. [1]"

For more information on my neurodivergence/medical history at least adjacent to this issue, here are some links

https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/comments/1wv2pz0/im_not_sure_what_my_verbal_tic_means_in_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/comments/1ullslv/thoughts_on_kif1a_as_an_overlooked_explanation/

https://www.reddit.com/r/antidepressants/comments/1wv1vsj/ive_been_lying_in_bed_all_day_depressed_and_3g_of/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Prolactinoma/comments/1wu7hbl/to_those_who_have_taken_mucuna_p5p_and_vitamin_e/

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u/Sad-Abies4263 — 14 days ago

WAIS-5 Score interpretation

Hi there!

I just received my ADHD assessment back, and I’m trying to get my head around these scores. Please let me know what stands out to you guys. What conclusions can be drawn? I’m just looking for some insight.

Thanks

u/Dry-Bluebird5912 — 14 days ago