u/Boring_Estimate9308

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One can say everyone almost every people in this world are Hapa themselves. Ancient Wasian Hapa existed long before modern Hapas

Technically speaking almost everyone is mixed of some sort just in different degrees and I'm not talking different ethnicities but different racial admixtures.

Look this DNA chart from all people in this world

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCentralAsia/comments/1t76sou/they_say_central_asians_and_turkic_people_are/#lightbox

Even different types of Wasian exists.

Central Asians: Mixture of Mongol army invaders, Turkic people that mixed with Indo-Europeans white people and Iranic, first from conquest and later intermarrying which is why Kazakhs being 63-70% Asian while Turkmen being 21-39% Asian , Uzbek being 35-46% Asian. Everyone being mixed, not a single being pure. They have 40-80% West Eurasian/White maternal ancestry and similar percentages in paternal. Due to conquest and assimilation,

Filipino: have 5% European DNA and 2.3% Native American from Spanish and Latin American soldiers and settlers who married with Filipinas

Hazara people: Descendant of Mongol army (and Turkic) invaders that mixed with Pasthun, Persian, Pakistani. Which is why the 50% East Asian and 50% Middle Eastern and Pakistani like in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan

East Europe and North Europe have 1-5% Asian to some having 10-14% due to Mongols, Turkic people invading them and also from ancient medieval migration of Siberian people.

Or from subcontinent of India

Indian/Pakistani are mixture of Middle eastern and (ASSI) South Indians. Indo-European intermixing with Dravidian speakers.

Or Black biracials

East Africans: Mixture of Arabs and Black people. Arab invaders and migrants who intermixed with black people.

Cubans, Jamaicans,, Guyana, Trinidad All Black people with substantial European admixture from European colinial soldiers and from mass wave of Chinese male laborer's and male coolies marrying with Black females which is why DNA always show them with traces to moderate percent of Chinese DNA. In Peru too.

This is only the West Eurasian DNA chart. ( West Eurasian = European, Middle Eastern, North African type DNA) It means even most of these West Eurasian are not even pure themselves.

Ethnic West Eurasian %
Angolan 2.30%
Algerian 92.60%
Algerian-South 80.70%
Armenian 99.20%
Azeris 93.70%
Belarusian 98.50%
Chinese Han 0.00%
Chinese Han-West 4.20%
Egyptian 90.90%
Egyptian-South 80.20%
Ethiopian 45.80%
Ethiopian (2) 36.50%
Ethiopian Tigrayan 55.20%
Finn-West 94.50%
Finn-East 86.50%
French 99.20%
German 99.50%
Ghanian 1.80%
Indian-North 56.30%
Indian-North (2) 61.30%
Indian-South 34.50%
Indian-South (2) 27.70%
Indian-Dalit 9.20%
Iranian 98.10%
Irish 100%
Kazakh 36.40%
Kazakh (2) 30.20%
Moldovan 98.30%
Malay 6.00%
Mongolian 8.20%
Mongolian (2) 1.80%
Mongolian-Khalkha 7.80%
Mongolian-Oirat 17.30%
Polish 98.80%
Russian 97.50%
Russian-South 98.70%
Russian-North 86.10%
Saudi 93.20%
Spanish 99%
Spanish (2) 97.60%
Sudanese Arab 40.50%
Sudanese Arab (2) 48.80%
Turkish 93.10%
Turkish (2) 88.40%
Turkish-Yoruk 81.80%
Turkmen 71.70%
Turkmen (2) 74.20%
Turkmen-North 60.30%
Turkmen-South 79.10%
Ukranian 97.80%
Uzbek 62.50%
Uzbek (2) 54%
Uzbek-Tajik 83.20%
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u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 5 days ago
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Data of Asian American ethnicities with their interracial marriage with White, Black, Hispanic and other group/ethnicities

(Note: Below is only a example of some Asian ethnicities)

Chinese men intermarriage: 30% White female, 2.4% Black female, 5% Hispanic female

Chinese women intermarriage: 45% White male, 4.6% Black male, 6% Hispanic male

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Laotian men intermarriage: 48% White female, 8.9% Black female, 22% Hispanic female

Laotian female intermarriage 50% White male, 4.5% Black female, 7.5% Hispanic male

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Vietnamese male intermarriage 30% White female, 1.2% Black female, 6% Hispanic female

Vietnamese female: 47% White male, 4.8% Black male, 10% Hispanic male

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Filipino male intermarriage: 40% White female, 4.2% Black female, 14% Hispanic female

Filipino female intermarriage: 54% White male, 9.2% Black male, 10% Hispanic male

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Korean male intermarriage: 33% White female, 2.6% Black female, 7% Hispanic female

Korean female intermarriage: 42% White male, 7% Black male, 5% Hispanic male

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Japanese male intermarriage: 50% White female, 1.5% Black female, 10% Hispanic female

Japanese female intermarriage: 63% White male, 3.1% Black male, 5% Hispanic male

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 8 days ago

Asian men and Asian women: Their interracial marriage with White, Black, Hispanic and other group/ethnicities

Chinese men intermarriage: 30% White female, 2.4% Black female, 5% Hispanic female

Chinese women intermarriage: 45% White male, 4.6% Black male, 6% Hispanic male

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Laotian men intermarriage: 48% White female, 8.9% Black female, 22% Hispanic female

Laotian female intermarriage 50% White male, 4.5% Black female, 7.5% Hispanic male

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Vietnamese male intermarriage 30% White female, 1.2% Black female, 6% Hispanic female

Vietnamese female: 47% White male, 4.8% Black male, 10% Hispanic male

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Filipino male intermarriage: 40% White female, 4.2% Black female, 14% Hispanic female

Filipino female intermarriage: 54% White male, 9.2% Black male, 10% Hispanic male

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Korean male intermarriage: 33% White female, 2.6% Black female, 7% Hispanic female

Korean female intermarriage: 42% White male, 7% Black male, 5% Hispanic male

Japanese male intermarriage: 50% White female, 1.5% Black female, 10% Hispanic female

Japanese female intermarriage: 63% White female, 3.1% Black male, 5% Hispanic male

Note: From the second data. Asian men intermarriage much more with a ethnic/racial more with Dominicans (Spanish speaking mix race Black/European females). Asian men and Dominican female marriages are much more common than opposite. Than comes Mexican females/Asian men sharing the almost same percentage/ratio to Mexican men/Asian female.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 9 days ago

Turkic people are mixed but is vast majority of ethnic groups in this world.

Most of the world is mixed, they really are like Central Asians and Turkic people in it's own way.

Ethnic North and East Europeans including Caucasus have low percent of Central/East Asian Asian admixture. Balkan Europeans have low Roman(Indian/South Asian) admixture. Middle East have minor East Asian and Indian admixture. North Africa have minor black/african admixture. Even in terms of West Eurasian admixture, most South Europeans and Southeastern European have 1/5 to 1/3 West Asian admixture.

This is only the West Eurasian % spreadsheet and it shows not even most West Eurasian ethnic group( Europeans, Caucasus, Middle easterners, North African) are pure West Eurasians.

Ethnic West Eurasian %
Angolan 2.30%
Algerian 92.60%
Algerian-South 80.70%
Armenian 99.20%
Azeris 93.70%
Belarusian 98.50%
Chinese Han 0.00%
Chinese Han-West 4.20%
Egyptian 90.90%
Egyptian-South 80.20%
Ethiopian 45.80%
Ethiopian (2) 36.50%
Ethiopian Tigrayan 55.20%
Finn-West 94.50%
Finn-East 86.50%
French 99.20%
German 99.50%
Ghanian 1.80%
India-North 56.30%
Indian-North (2) 61.30%
India-South 34.50%
Indian-South (2) 27.70%
Indian-Dalit 9.20%
Iranian 98.10%
Irish 100%
Kazakh 36.40%
Kazakh (2) 30.20%
Moldovan 98.30%
Malay 6.00%
Mongolian 8.20%
Mongolian (2) 1.80%
Mongolian-Khalkha 7.80%
Mongolian-Oirat 17.30%
Polish 98.80%
Russian 97.50%
Russian-South 98.70%
Russian-North 86.10%
Saudi 93.20%
Spanish 99%
Spanish (2) 97.60%
Sudanese Arab 40.50%
Sudanese Arab (2) 48.80%
Turkish 93.10%
Turkish (2) 88.40%
Turkish-Yoruk 81.80%
Turkmen 71.70%
Turkmen (2) 74.20%
Turkmen-North 60.30%
Turkmen-South 79.10%
Ukranian 97.80%
Uzbek 62.50%
Uzbek (2) 54%
Uzbek-Tajik 83.20%

Cautions: Some of these charts are have some samples biased. Russians here with 14.5% East Asian/Siberian Mongoloid was sampled from Northern Russia. The Mongols with low West Eurasian are the Khalkha and Inner Mongols, Daurs while the ones with 17% West Eurasian are usually Oirats and Kalmyks used to represent "Mongolians" in older studies. The Uyghurs here samples from Urumqi, which is why they are 60-77% East Asian. Other Uyghurs from Kashgar, Hotan are 55-60% West Eurasians with individuals reaching 65-83% the more south-west they go+. Nogais that is not Kuban have 55% East Asian while Kuban Nogais have 34%. The Turkmen sample here are from Ashgabat, have 23-29% East Asian on average many individuals reaching 30-39%. Some Turkmen tribes have 40-50%+ East Asian

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 13 days ago

Khalkha Eastern Mongols represent the majority of Mongolia population. Where as Oirats and including kalmyks who are sampled in Europe to represent "Mongolian" genetically have some clear differences.

This is only the West Eurasian % spreadsheet and it shows not even most West Eurasian ethnic group( Europeans, Caucasus, Middle easterners, North African) are pure West Eurasians. Not even most West Eurasians are pure many have East Asian/Central Asian like admixture. Others have Roma Indian ect

Ethnic West Eurasian %
Angolan 2.30%
Algerian 92.60%
Algerian-South 80.70%
Armenian 99.20%
Azeris 93.70%
Belarusian 98.50%
Chinese Han 0.00%
Chinese Han-West 4.20%
Egyptian 90.90%
Egyptian-South 80.20%
Ethiopian 45.80%
Ethiopian (2) 36.50%
Ethiopian Tigrayan 55.20%
Finn-West 94.50%
Finn-East 86.50%
French 99.20%
German 99.50%
Ghanian 1.80%
India-North 56.30%
Indian-North (2) 61.30%
India-South 34.50%
Indian-South (2) 27.70%
Indian-Dalit 9.20%
Iranian 98.10%
Irish 100%
Kazakhs 36.40%
Kazakhs (2) 30.20%
Moldovan 98.30%
Malay 6.00%
Mongolian 8.20%
Mongolian (2) 1.80%
Mongolian-Khalkha 7.80%
Mongolian-Oirat 17.30%
Polish 98.80%
Russian 97.50%
Russian-South 98.70%
Russian-North 86.10%
Saudis 93.20%
Spanish 99%
Spanish (2) 97.60%
Sudanese Arab 40.50%
Sudanese Arab (2) 48.80%
Turkish 93.10%
Turkish (2) 88.40%
Turkish-Yoruk 81.80%
Turkmen 71.70%
Turkmen (2) 74.20%
Turkmen-North 60.30%
Turkmen-South 79.10%
Ukranian 97.80%
Uzbek 62.50%
Uzbek (2) 54%
Uzbek-Tajik 83.20%

Cautions: Some of these charts have samples biased.

Russians here with 14.5% East Asian/Siberian Mongoloid was sampled from Northern Russia. The Mongols with low West Eurasian are the Khalkha and Inner Mongols, Daurs while the ones with 17% West Eurasian are usually Oirats and Kalmyks used to represent "Mongolians". The Uyghurs here samples from Urumqi, which is why they are 60-77% East Asian. Other Uyghurs from Kashgar, Hotan are 55-60% West Eurasians with individuals reaching 65-83% the more south-west they go+. The Turkmen sample here are from Ashgabat, have 23-29% East Asian on average many individuals reaching 30-39%. Some Turkmen tribes have 40-50%+ East Asian

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 13 days ago

They say Central Asians and Turkic people are mixed but aren't the world also just like them?

Most of the world is mixed, they really are like Central Asians and Turkic people in it's own way.

Ethnic North and East Europeans including Caucasus have low percent of Central/East Asian Asian admixture. Balkan Europeans have low Roman(Indian/South Asian) admixture. Middle East have minor East Asian and Indian admixture. North Africa have minor black/african admixture. Even in terms of West Eurasian admixture, most South Europeans and Southeastern European have 1/5 to 1/3 West Asian admixture.

This is only the West Eurasian % spreadsheet and it shows not even most West Eurasian ethnic group( Europeans, Caucasus, Middle easterners, North African) are pure West Eurasians.

Ethnic West Eurasian %
Angolan 2.30%
Algerian 92.60%
Algerian-South 80.70%
Armenian 99.20%
Azeris 93.70%
Belarusian 98.50%
Chinese Han 0.00%
Chinese Han-West 4.20%
Egyptian 90.90%
Egyptian-South 80.20%
Ethiopian 45.80%
Ethiopian (2) 36.50%
Ethiopian Tigrayan 55.20%
Finn-West 94.50%
Finn-East 86.50%
French 99.20%
German 99.50%
Ghanian 1.80%
Indian-North 56.30%
Indian-North (2) 61.30%
Indian-South 34.50%
Indian-South (2) 27.70%
Indian-Dalit 9.20%
Iranian 98.10%
Irish 100%
Kazakh 36.40%
Kazakh (2) 30.20%
Moldovan 98.30%
Malay 6.00%
Mongolian 8.20%
Mongolian (2) 1.80%
Mongolian-Khalkha 7.80%
Mongolian-Oirat 17.30%
Polish 98.80%
Russian 97.50%
Russian-South 98.70%
Russian-North 86.10%
Saudi 93.20%
Spanish 99%
Spanish (2) 97.60%
Sudanese Arab 40.50%
Sudanese Arab (2) 48.80%
Turkish 93.10%
Turkish (2) 88.40%
Turkish-Yoruk 81.80%
Turkmen 71.70%
Turkmen (2) 74.20%
Turkmen-North 60.30%
Turkmen-South 79.10%
Ukranian 97.80%
Uzbek 62.50%
Uzbek (2) 54%
Uzbek-Tajik 83.20%

Cautions: Some of these charts are have some samples biased. Russians here with 14.5% East Asian/Siberian Mongoloid was sampled from Northern Russia. The Mongols with low West Eurasian are the Khalkha and Inner Mongols, Daurs while the ones with 17% West Eurasian are usually Oirats and Kalmyks used to represent "Mongolians" in older studies. The Uyghurs here samples from Urumqi, which is why they are 60-77% East Asian. Other Uyghurs from Kashgar, Hotan are 55-60% West Eurasians with individuals reaching 65-83% the more south-west they go+. Nogais that is not Kuban have 55% East Asian while Kuban Nogais have 34%. The Turkmen sample here are from Ashgabat, have 23-29% East Asian on average many individuals reaching 30-39%. Some Turkmen tribes have 40-50%+ East Asian

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 13 days ago
▲ 34 r/mongolia+1 crossposts

The most important genetic admixture is first measured by racial admixture than sub-race admixture. The difference between European and West Asian is sub-race admixture

Central Asians and Central Siberians closest in their own genetic cluster

Europeans, West Asians, Northern South Asians are the closest in West Eurasian cluster.

North East Asian and East Asians South East Asian closest in East Eurasian cluster

Central-West Siberians

Khanty are 51.8% East Eurasian and 49.2% West Eurasian.

Europeans

West Europeans genetically almost pure West Eurasian. North European have are almost pure Europeans but South Europeans have substantial West Asian admixtures..

West Europeans have virtually no East Eurasian. Some East Europeans, Norths Europeans, Caucasus ethnic group all have small degree of East admixture in various minor low degrees with the East Finns and North Russians even have 10%+ East Asian on average and Komi and Chuvash in Europe's Russia having 16-23%

East Siberians

Almost entirely Northeast Asian ( North East Asians) with little to no West Eurasians. Some Yakuts have 11% West Eurasian nm average and some Yakuts have 0% of West Eurasian like Ngannasans. Including Tungustic. Evenki, Oroqn and Nivkhs.

Central Asian

Mixture of East Eurasian ( East Asian/Siberian) and West Eurasian (European/West Asian)

Closer to East Asian Central Asian: Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpak, Northern Uyghurs: Their East Eurasian ranges anything from 55-60%, 60-70%, 70-80% while West Eurasian 20-45% depending on individuals

Uzbeks, Uyghurs, Turkmen, Tajiks are closer to West Eurasian except for Northern Uyghurs. Uzbeks can can have anything from 35-60% East Asian but mostly 38-44%. It is the Uzbek Tajiks (make up 1/3 to 1/2 in some cities) that have 18-27% East Asian only. Turkmen East Asian is 27%, 22% and 31%, 34% on average depending on the cities some Turkmen tribes have 40-55%. Tajiks only one with low 15-20% East Eurasian.

East Asians

Manchus, East Mongolians, Han Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Tungustic, East Siberians are basically the best representative of East Eurasians

Almost entirely of Northern East Asian branch. The ANA (Ancient North East Asian) and Yellow river (East Asian)

Mongols

East Mongolia closest to East Asian. West Mongolia ( Kazakh and Oirats ) closer to Central Asians. But Central Mongolia is closer to East Asian also East Siberians with little west eurasian admixture. Also to Qinghai, Xibe and even Han Chinese living in western province of Gansu and other western provinces close to Xinjiang the Han Chinese show 5.2% West Eurasian mtDNA H, U and 7% R1a, J2.

Mongols Khalh being 92.5% East Asian and 7.5% West Eurasian

Mongols Oirats are 82% East Asian and 18% West Eurasian

Mongols in very East of Mongolia show 99-100% East Eurasian and 0-1% West Eurasian

Xibe people show 95-98% East Asian and 2-5% West Eurasian

Qinghai and Han Chinese living in western provinces shows 96-97% East Asian and 3-4% West Eurasian

South Asians

Is combination of West Eurasian ( West Asian ) and ASSI (South Indian)

Kashmiri: Hunza, Burusho having over 80-90% West Eurasians, 10-20% South Indian (ASSI)

Afghans/Pasthun 77-83% West Eurasians and 17-23% (AASI) South Indian

Balochi 72-78% West Eurasian and 22-28% (ASSI) South Indian

North Indian/Pakistani having 55-63% West Eurasian with 37-45% South Indian (AASI)

South Indian Dravidian speaker 23-40% West Eurasian with 60-77% South Indian (AASI)

Dalit caste 8-19% West Eurasian and 81-92% South Indian (AASI)

Southeast Asians

Southern East Asian genetic cluster

Thais, Cambodians, Vietnamese, Burmese, Indonesians, Filipinos Malays all show mixture of Malay like admixture (Southern East Asian) with various East Asian and Indian admixture of Indians in various degrees

They have South Asian mtDNA from 1.9 to 15% reaching highest in Burmese and Sumatra but also R1a, G in similar percentages. This is from ancient Indian migration before 200 BC. That is why Thais, Cambodians, Burmese can show 8-15% South Asian DNA

Malays of Malaysia including Southern Thais have 3-6% Negrito maternal DNA. This is due to Malay slave trade of Orang Ansli from 19th-20th century of Negrito Semang and other Negrito groups but some already due to ancient admixture other Southeast Asian with negrito population also have admixture

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 15 days ago

Imani Hakim was no doubt one of the most popular female child actress in the 2000's era. She played Tonya Rock on the popular UPN/CW sitcom Everybody Hates Chris.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imani_Hakim

What about now? Being how popular she was in US (also in Latin America especially Brazil) back than as Tonya Rock. I see Brazilian media mentions her a lot even now. I remember she had 540K instagram followers. It also says Hakim acted in the films Chocolate City and Burning Sands, and had a supporting role on the Apple TV+ television series Mythic Quest. But I have no idea what these shows are as I haven't watched it and I don't know how famous she is based on these shows.

Her Asian husband Chris Naoki Lee is also a actor only avaliable info is on imdb. They welcomed their first child together, a son named Kazuo-Marley Hakim Lee in 2025.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 16 days ago
▲ 1 r/mongolia+1 crossposts

Both are famous actors of known for villain roles and foreign roles ( sometimes Central Asian, Turk, Mongol, Tibetan) especially in the early days. This is due historical Indian medieval stereotypes and later British colonial stereotypes. It's not like Bollywood superstars Jackie Shroff and Tiger Shroff who have more North Indian faces despite being born partly to Turkmen (mother/Grandmother with East Asian face). They get leading superhero and romantic roles although Indian social media compares Tiger Shroff to Brandon Lee (son of Bruce Lee) but still get a pass as Indian looking enough.

KELLY DORJI

A prominent supermodel and actor (on the left). His father is Bhutanese Sikkim Royal Family. and mother was White European women with green eyes. Sometimes playing the role of a mafia boss, gangster and sometimes a modern Central Asian villain in South Indian cinema and various villain roles in Bollywood who gets defeated by Indian heroes. He dated Lara Dutta for 9 years, she was winner of Miss India, winner of Miss Intercontinental 1997 and winner of Miss Universe 2000. Now a super famous actress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Dutta

DANNY DEZONGPA

Danny Dezongpa (on the right), famous Bollywood actor who is famous for various super villain roles also of Sikkim origin and sometimes plays in Indian medieval movies as the Mongol king, ruler, Genghis Khan. A Mughal noble, Turkic noble and even king of Afghan Turks/Pathans, other times a Tibetan monk, Chinese Kung fu master. He had played over 200 movies since 1970' to now, but majority of the time playing the sexual predator villain to many Bollywood actress and later get beat up and defeated by the Indian hero. A minority of a time a romantic interest in movies

He dated sex symbol actress Parveen Babi for 4 years and after dated Kim Yaspal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parveen_Babi (<--- This women a descent of royal Pathan/Afghan dynasty not Turkic)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Yashpal

Also several notable movies with Kimi Katkar (a blue eye Indian goddess) romantic and villain. Some media claim they a have a romantic relationship but this just media claim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_Katkar

But he ended marrying a Sikkim princess His son Rizang, recently starred in a superhero romantic movie Squadin 2021 with Indian actress Malvika Raaj (a green eye goddess)

Marriage to females Indian, Pakistani, Bengali female celebrities

I must say despite racism there's quite a number of famous (and not as famous) Bollywood actress, Hindi movie actress ) Some famous bollywood Indian actress including Pakistani and Bengali actress models eithe dated or married men of East Asian faces they include Chinese men and men who looked like East Asian born in India and from other countries. Other Indian female actress/celebrities like Benaf Dadachandji, Madiha Imam, Mandakini, Plabita Borthakur, Afrina Razia Trina, Rista Basnet, Minissha Lamba, Deekshha Sonalkar, Monali Thakur

Sikkim people and it's connection with Turks?

No connection except historical Indian medieval stereotypes. Tibeto-Burmese are sometimes regarded as descendants of Mongolian and some Indian social media will even claim some are remnants of Mughals and Delhi Sultanate Turks. Chroniclers and military writers (especially describing frontier campaigns) sometimes grouped different Inner Asian/Central Asian steppe peoples together as “similar-looking” to Hill steppe people. and later British administrators and early ethnologists often used outdated racial categories like: Mongoloid, grouping Tibetan, Mongols, Turanians as one group of race.

The Bengali Turks (in medieval) in 1205 AD. The first Islamic Invasion into Assam was by Bakhtiyar Khilji who was Turkic and belonged to Afghanistan. Claiming the Mountain people of Northeast India resembled them. He was the founder of the Khalji dynasty of Bengal , ruling Bengal for a short period, from 1203 to 1227 CE. Khalji's invasions of the Indian subcontinent between A.D. 1197 and 1206

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Bakhtiyar_Khalji

Turkic raider Bakhtiyar Khalji, writing on his failed expeditions in Assam, remarked in the Iabaqat-i-Nasiri that these tribal groups “all have Turk countenance"
[p. 310]: The one is called Kuch (Kuch Behir), the second Mich, and the third, Tiharu
.1 They all have Turki features and speak different languages, something between the language of Hind and that of Tibet

The Ahom dynasty is a Indianized kingdom that defeated Mughals 17 times. It ruled 600 years of Northeast india of Assam. The ruling class originated from the Yunnan China, ethnic minority Tai people but became Burmicized with Burmese triber and a large population were already Assamese Indo-Aryan. Sikkim and Northeast India is part of India are Tibeto-Burmese because of British India, Except for Assam which was historically a place of Indo-Aryan, Mongoloid tribes, and Dravidian looking people. India's most powerful dynasties like Mauryan (from Afghanistan to Assam) and Gupta influence the region with rule or vassal but Tibeto-Burmese dynasties of Northeast India like Varman dynasty, Melh dynasty ruled Northeast East and parts of East India, absorbing indo-aryan population. That is and Northeast Indians and Sikkim are genetically 70-90% East Asian and 10-30% South Asian (some in Assam 50-60%). They have 10-25(30%) South Asian maternal and 5-30% South Asian paternal. Due to conquest and assimilation and marriages. They can be described as South Asian version of Central Asian

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 16 days ago

Jackie Shroff

One of the most famous bollywood actor known for playing superhero and romantic male lead roles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Shroff

His father is a Gujarati and his mother is a ethnic Turkmen but treated like a descendant of Mongol invader in Turkmenistan (and reason for Chinese looking). In Indian social media Jackie Shroff is treated like a North Indian type looking man, his mother is treated as Chinese, or a Mongolian from Turkmenistan, his older brother who died at 17 trying to save someone from drowning is also treated as part Chinese even though he clearly looks more mix. Jackie shroff sometimes mention his brother as a reason for being a hero. He married Miss young India 1980, Ayesha Dutt

Tiger Shroff,

The son of Jackie Shroff (frequently compared to Brandon Lee, the son of Bruce Lee in India social media. Also play superhero and romantic roles and is one of most famous young generation actors. He also claims his mother is a Turkmenistani, a Mongolian-Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Shroff

Tiger replied, "My dad's dad is Gujarati. Dad's mom is Turkmenistani, a Mongolian-Chinese. She's a Muslim." Mom's mom is French, and mom's dad is Bengali. So I'm a mix of a lot of things, I don't know what that makes me."

The reason for this ignorance is for three reasons

  1. Tiger compares Turkmenistani as Mongolian-Chinese comparison is because the average Turkmen from Turkmenistan generally looks more Iranic and mix race, some look East Asian Some Turkmen especially within the tribes look more East Asian. So to him, his mother is a Turkmen that descent from Mongol invasion and to them it means Chinese looking.

  2. In India mentality, the standard of a yellow face (or Mongoloid) is connected with Chinese. You only need to look at nomadic tour a India guy who travels who in India.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=indian+in+turkmenistan

He said "People Turkmenistan are really interesting. Some look European, Some look Persian like their neighbors Tajiks, some look like Chinese, a few can even look Indian."

He doesn't even mention Mongolian or Turkic despite the fact the only reason people of Turkmenistan having East Asian is like that

  1. Some famous bollywood Indian actress including Pakistani and Bengali actress including from Miss India, Miss world married men of East Asian faces they include Chinese men and men who looked like East Asian born from other countries or in India but all treated as Chinese men at first glance.

Indian female actress/celebrities: Benaf Dadachandji, Madiha Imam, Mandakini, Plabita Borthakur, Afrina Razia Trina, Rista Basnet, Minissha Lamba, Deekshha Sonalkar Tham all married to men who look East Asian. Others like Lara Dutta, Parveen Babi, Kim Yashpal, Monali Thakur had romantic relationship like famous actor Danny Dezongpa of Sikkim origin known for villain and romantic roles in bollywood is treated like Chinese and Meiyang Chang also actor is treated like Chinese.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 18 days ago

Jackie Shroff a famous bollywood actor known for playing superhero and romantic roles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Shroff

His father is a Gujarati and his mother is a ethnic Turkmen.

So he is basically a mixture of North Indian+Central Asian. To me he looks North Indian or North Indian with slight Central Asian features. His older brother looks more East Asian/Central Asian but died at 17 trying to save someone and so Jackie Shroff always mention his older brother. Social media online treats his mother (and sometimes brother) like Chinese people (or overall Chinese looking people) without knowing their ethnic background. In India, everything that looks like her or his brother (clearly mixed looking) as Chinese.

He married Ayesha Dutt miss young India of 1980, a beauty with green-hazel eyes. His son Jackie Shroff is also a famous actor (1/4 Turkmen) known for superhero and romantic roles

His son Tiger Shroff also reffered to his grandmother as a Turkmenistani, Tiger is comapared to Brandon Lee the son of Bruce Lee in Indian social media.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 18 days ago

I noticed they used words like ambw, ambf, bwam but I never understood this until I find found profile using these tags but why these short terms, when most people wouldn't understand until they find out?

For Indian men and black women is called imbw

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 18 days ago

Benaff, popular Indian actress in Hindi TV series from 2005 to 2008. He married a Chinese man named Norman Huo. They have a kid together

Minissha Lamba famoys bollywood actress inb the 2007 to 2012 married to a Chinese man Ryan Tham, they lasted from 2005 to 2010

Deekshha Sonalkar Tham, a actress not really known but has 140K+ followers in instagram for her body and beauty. He married a Chinese actor born in India named Jason Tham

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 20 days ago
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Most marriages were not like this but given the number of Turkic people in Central Asia or outside of Central Asia like, Nogais, Bashkirs, Tatars there must have been 100 million of such unions in last 2000 years.

These couples are not even from different Turkic ethnic group marrying other Turkic ethnic group. They belong mostly to same ethnic group of Tatars couples, Uzbek couples, Turkmen couples, Nogais couples, Bashkirs couples ect. Remove their dress and identity and you would think they are different nationalities and ethnic groups coming together. We can be sure all of these Turkic people have east/west admixture. The East Asian/ looking ones have for sure west eurasian admixture and the caucasian looking ones have east eurasian but each one coming out with very different faces

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW East Asian/Siberian and European/West Asian the men and women are. I'm just judging only by phenotypes.

The man on the bottom left look European but the women look East Asian and it it could even be she has caucasian maternal DNA and the male has East Asian paternal despite looking european same can happen vice versa. The East Asian males one can have East Asian paternal or west eurasian paternal and look East Asian or Caucasian and the female can have east asian or west eurasian maternal and look european/west asian or east asian.

On the 1st row of the males either look like 55%, 70%, 100% East Asian while the females all look either 90-100% West Asian or European (1st and 2nd women look west Asians and 3rd women look european)

On the 2nd row, the males either look like 90% East Asian, 57% East Asian and 75% East Asian while the females all look European 85%, 100%, 77%

On the third row, the males look either 80% European, 80% East Asian, 45% East Asian while the females look 70% East Asian, 65% West Asian, and 100% West Asian

LIKE I SAID. I have no idea how west or east eurasian they are.

For example Alexa Chung is 37% East Asian married to a white man and everyone thinks they are a white couple. Nobody ever said she looks even mixed race let alone east asian.

https://www.nickiswift.com/img/gallery/inside-alexander-skarsgard-and-alexa-chungs-relationship/l-intro-1607557069.jpg

Nobody ever thinks his father (Asian-White but only 1/4 white looks 100% East Asian) can produce such a white looking mix race.

https://imgproxy.amomama.com/cjlrO7q2A99gXQYlw45DfJKT1ki8Io5PNi0dQpksUEk/rs:fill:1200:0:1/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9jZG4uYW1vbWFtYS5jb20vYzk0ZGEwZThiMTZlY2Y0MWU3NTMyNjhmZWU0ODdlNjhiOGY1YmQzNWEzMjAyZTE3NDg1NjIyYzg3Yjg2ZGJmYS5qcGc.jpg

Her mother

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/97/12/4d/97124dd7e16040bda89b18721cdb1212.jpg

But not all 37% East Asian most of the time they look white and ambiguous but quite a lot can look part East Asian or mostly East Asian.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 22 days ago

This is the most accurate in terms of facial features and bone structure, as it is made from exactly from the face reconstruction of Timur by Soviet anthropologist that shows he was predominant East Asian Mongoloid buried from his graves in Central Asia.

Timur's body was exhumed from his tomb on 19 June 1941 and his remains examined by the Soviet anthropologists Mikhail M. Gerasimov, Lev V. Oshanin and V. Ia. Zezenkova. Gerasimov reconstructed the likeness of Timur from his skull and found that his facial characteristics displayed "typical Mongoloid features", i.e. East Asian in modern terms. An anthropologic study of Timur's cranium shows that he belonged predominately to the "South Siberian Mongoloid type". At 5 feet 8 inches (173 centimeters) "

THE ONLY ORIGINAL PORTRAIT.

The only real original portrait of Timur was the one made by his grandson Khalil, every other portrait was made hundreds years after his death by people who never seen him. Earliest known portrait of Timur, commissioned right after his death in 1405–1409, by his grandson Khalil Sultan and looked very East Asian or Mongoloid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur#/media/File:Timur_seated_(earliest_known_portrait),_Timurid_genealogy,_1405-1409,_Samarkand_(TSMK,_H2152).jpg

Hair color

His hair color seems to be mix of red and dark brown (black/brown), and gray. Nowhere like the Scottish or irish red hair type. More like a muddy dark brown-reddish.

Light eyes and light hair are are occasionally found in individuals or families of East Siberians Mongols, Hmong, Turkic, Miao, Himalayan Tibetans, Chinese mountain people living in high altitude where the populations can look East Asian and have light hair/light eyes. It's just mainstreams East Asians that lack it unless they have conditions like albino, heterochromia, skin pigmentation, waardenburg syndrome, or even from malnutrition's.

u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 29 days ago