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Asian American Woman Says Many Asians Benefited From Black Civil Rights Victories While Refusing to Acknowledge It, Tells San Francisco Board She “Wouldn’t Be Here” Without Black Americans’ Struggles and Sacrifice

During a San Francisco Board of Supervisors hearing on reparations, an Asian American woman spoke in support of the proposal and directly credited Black civil rights and Black liberation movements with creating opportunities that benefited other communities, including Asian Americans. She told the board that she “wouldn’t be here” without the struggles and sacrifices made by Black Americans and argued that supporting Black people should be the bare minimum. Her testimony pushed back against the tendency of some non-Black communities to benefit from gains won through Black activism while distancing themselves from or minimizing that history. The moment drew attention online for its blunt acknowledgment of how Black civil rights victories reshaped opportunities across American society.

u/ateam1984 — 3 days ago
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NYC Wasian/Mixed Asian Gathering Interview Compilation: Wasians' Opinions on the Word "Wasian," Their Experiences Living as Half-Asian, How "Asian" the Wasians Are, and Identifying their Mixes

Instagram handles of each clip's author, in order of appearance:

mixedasianmedia

thereflectionsmusic

cinthiakang

mike.or.mikey

u/superdelish — 2 days ago
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Mixed-Race Asian Book List

Hi! I created a catalog of books about Mixed-Race Asian characters written by Mixed authors. The books are organized by which ethnicities/ identities are included, and I've got a solid start, but your help adding to this list is much appreciated! Please let me know if you have any to add.

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u/Motor-Investment9545 — 2 days ago
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Have you ever accurate detected someone being 3/4 Asian and 1/4 white?

Just curious! I feel like this combo flies under the radar very easily most of the time.

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u/ihateclass2s — 2 days ago
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Compilation of Clips from the NYC and San Francisco Wasian Gatherings

u/superdelish — 3 days ago
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I (wasian) had a long conversation with a full Chinese acquaintance about the current wasian meetup discourse - want to get this community's thoughts

Conversation screenshots: https://photos.app.goo.gl/T96TDcoVbv3FfJgo6

The conversation is very long so if you actually read the whole thing, may your pillow be cold and your coffee hot.

A bit of background, this guy is a full Chinese friend of a friend who I've hung out with a few times and we get along. Partway through this multi-day conversation I find out from my friend that he's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder about whites, doesn't like my friend dating wasians (his last 3 women were wasian) and wants him to date full asians, wants to move to China someday.

This conversation initially starts with me responding to one of his IG stories where he writes a couple paragraphs about the discourse around the recent wasian meetups in SF, NYC, etc and is generally critical but not rude or hostile. Sorry I didn't save it and don't remember exactly what it said.

I really wanted to respond to a few of his last points but as the conversation shows we decide to meet up in person to finish the discussion. I'm out of town currently so this will be in at least a week from now.

What are all your thoughts on this? Where is he right, where am I right? Wasians and non-white mixes too.

u/hahncholo — 4 days ago
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Not proselytizing, but BLASIANS please read.

Hello MODS of r/hapas this post isn't meant to proselytize members in this sub. I am not attempting to steal folks away from this space. Instead, because of the CONSTANT Wasian discourse going on with social media, this space has become very compromised for the time being. I just scrolled and it's NOTHING but "Wasian" discourse. Those of us who are not Wasian, who have existed in this sub already having to deal with White/Asian mixed folks constantly centering their experience as "the mixed experience" need a space where we can avoid precisely what is going on in here right now.

I hope you understand this. So Blasians, we currently have r/BlasiansandBeyond/ by us, for us.

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u/blasianFMA — 5 days ago
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Sort of a weird question: In what language do u have your inner monologue?

Father is nihonjin and mother is argentinian, i was born and raised till i was 15 in nihon then we moved to argentina and my inner monologue its almost all in Spanish.

My mother knows only a little nihongo but my father knows spanish so inside my house in japan they always talked in spanish as i was growing up, so i think that's why i "think" in spanish.

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u/Difficult_Chain_577 — 7 days ago
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"Ermmmm it's not your culture"

Current discourse is going around saying "hapas/mixed asians aren't Asian, shouldn't call themselves Asian, Asian culture is not their culture and they'll never understand us Asians with our PURE BLOODED Asian experiences." The people who say that shit are almost always these pan-asianist diaspora Asians who ironically have this crazy western 'purist' idea of race unlike mainlanders who usually do not GAF as long as you pass as Asian or share their culture/language.

Their cortisol is spiked by Hapas because they're an Asian who has western ideas about race. They're insanely anal and gatekeepy over the idea of Asian/Asian culture because they're insecure about their own relationship with their cultures back home.

I am 1/2 Malay and was raised in Malay culture (practicing Muslim, eating and cooking the food, speaking the language, etc.) I love being Malay and I love Malaysians and if I could be 100% I would. I am Malay before I'm half Asian, and I think these diasporas are in for a rude awakening when they visit Asia and realise most mainlander Asians care more about culture and nationality than this unifying 'Asian-ness'. As if someone from the Philippines and someone from Mongolia could hold hands and talk about their shared 'Asian Experience' which would logically stop the Thailand-Cambodia conflict and Koreans' racism towards SEA because "we're all the same race, damn it!! Why are we fighting??"

I understand these Asians' reservations about Hapas/Wasians from WMAF. I know that their worldview originates from experiences with racism, but I am Asian passing and I experience racism too, and you seriously have me fucked up if you think I'm going to listen to race-obsessed Timmy from the Bay Area telling me that I have no right to call myself Malay or identify with my culture because of some arbitrary percentage in my DNA

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u/Effective-Cry-1342 — 7 days ago
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One can say everyone almost every people in this world are Hapa themselves. Ancient Wasian Hapa existed long before modern Hapas

Technically speaking almost everyone is mixed of some sort just in different degrees and I'm not talking different ethnicities but different racial admixtures.

Look this DNA chart from all people in this world

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCentralAsia/comments/1t76sou/they_say_central_asians_and_turkic_people_are/#lightbox

Even different types of Wasian exists.

Central Asians: Mixture of Mongol army invaders, Turkic people that mixed with Indo-Europeans white people and Iranic, first from conquest and later intermarrying which is why Kazakhs being 63-70% Asian while Turkmen being 21-39% Asian , Uzbek being 35-46% Asian. Everyone being mixed, not a single being pure. They have 40-80% West Eurasian/White maternal ancestry and similar percentages in paternal. Due to conquest and assimilation,

Filipino: have 5% European DNA and 2.3% Native American from Spanish and Latin American soldiers and settlers who married with Filipinas

Hazara people: Descendant of Mongol army (and Turkic) invaders that mixed with Pasthun, Persian, Pakistani. Which is why the 50% East Asian and 50% Middle Eastern and Pakistani like in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan

East Europe and North Europe have 1-5% Asian to some having 10-14% due to Mongols, Turkic people invading them and also from ancient medieval migration of Siberian people.

Or from subcontinent of India

Indian/Pakistani are mixture of Middle eastern and (ASSI) South Indians. Indo-European intermixing with Dravidian speakers.

Or Black biracials

East Africans: Mixture of Arabs and Black people. Arab invaders and migrants who intermixed with black people.

Cubans, Jamaicans,, Guyana, Trinidad All Black people with substantial European admixture from European colinial soldiers and from mass wave of Chinese male laborer's and male coolies marrying with Black females which is why DNA always show them with traces to moderate percent of Chinese DNA. In Peru too.

This is only the West Eurasian DNA chart. ( West Eurasian = European, Middle Eastern, North African type DNA) It means even most of these West Eurasian are not even pure themselves.

Ethnic West Eurasian %
Angolan 2.30%
Algerian 92.60%
Algerian-South 80.70%
Armenian 99.20%
Azeris 93.70%
Belarusian 98.50%
Chinese Han 0.00%
Chinese Han-West 4.20%
Egyptian 90.90%
Egyptian-South 80.20%
Ethiopian 45.80%
Ethiopian (2) 36.50%
Ethiopian Tigrayan 55.20%
Finn-West 94.50%
Finn-East 86.50%
French 99.20%
German 99.50%
Ghanian 1.80%
Indian-North 56.30%
Indian-North (2) 61.30%
Indian-South 34.50%
Indian-South (2) 27.70%
Indian-Dalit 9.20%
Iranian 98.10%
Irish 100%
Kazakh 36.40%
Kazakh (2) 30.20%
Moldovan 98.30%
Malay 6.00%
Mongolian 8.20%
Mongolian (2) 1.80%
Mongolian-Khalkha 7.80%
Mongolian-Oirat 17.30%
Polish 98.80%
Russian 97.50%
Russian-South 98.70%
Russian-North 86.10%
Saudi 93.20%
Spanish 99%
Spanish (2) 97.60%
Sudanese Arab 40.50%
Sudanese Arab (2) 48.80%
Turkish 93.10%
Turkish (2) 88.40%
Turkish-Yoruk 81.80%
Turkmen 71.70%
Turkmen (2) 74.20%
Turkmen-North 60.30%
Turkmen-South 79.10%
Ukranian 97.80%
Uzbek 62.50%
Uzbek (2) 54%
Uzbek-Tajik 83.20%
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u/Boring_Estimate9308 — 5 days ago
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opinions on NYC Wasian Meetup discourse?

i’ve been seeing a lot of tiktoks on ppl discussing their perspectives on the NYC wasian meetup, and i wanted to share mine & hear the perspectives of other wasians as well.

if you’re not aware, heres what i understand happened from the videos i’ve seen:
there was a large wasian meetup in NYC. The event was advertised as a wasian meetup and the vast majority of those who attended were wasian. For those who were wasian, the majority of them were white/east asian. There were some other mixed asians in attendance. The event is being held under scrutiny because other mixed asians feel as though the event centers whiteness. From my understanding, this claim is what the discourse centers on. Some say that because other mixed asians were allowed to attend, there is no problem to have a meetup catered to the wasian demographic. Others feel that the surge of wasians becoming an overly represented demographic in popular media when compared to other mixed asian demographics is a reflection of racial hierarchy. Of course, representation is important for everyone, i think it would be bad-faith to say that those who feel that this event centers whiteness don’t want to see wasian representation. I believe people are just tired of the racial hierarchy that society can’t seem to shake.

In my opinion, i do think the event does center whiteness and the timing leaves a poor taste in my mouth. Wasians have been garnering a lot of attention in popular culture recently while other mixed asian ppls experiences arent given a second thought. Wasians are unambiguously centered when it comes to mixed asian identity; having a large scale wasian event that claims to be inclusive to all mixed asians absolutely centers whiteness. This doesn't mean that wasians dont go through specific experiences or struggles that they can connect with eachother on, i just think during aapi month we should be more mindful and uplift all mixed asian experiences if we are connecting on the basis of being bi/ multiracial

Let me know what you all think if you want to weigh in.

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u/ParticularStrong6258 — 8 days ago
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Japanese-Hawaiian-French Canadian-Portuguese Hapa with a seemingly different experience than most here

I stumbled on this sub after seeing the recent wasian meetup "controversy" posts on Reddit and found myself here. I was kind of surprised by the how different my experience as a hapa growing up in Hawaii seems to be from most of the posts here.

Growing up in the islands, I always felt like I could relate to anyone because I was a bit of everything and was somewhat ambiguous looking (besides asian cheek bones/eyes). In some ways, I even thought that maybe mixing races even more is the solution to the divisions we see amongst people these days, because most differences are arbitrary anyway. People are people no matter where you go.

I've since lived in the UK, Germany, and multiple states since moving away from home and still felt the same. I think Hawaii may be a bit special because it is a real mixture of cultures instead of multiple cultures living in the same place.

It seems like a lot of people here have the experience that they don't belong to any one culture and are kind of floating in no-mans land looking for their tribe (but I may be reading this wrong). To be honest, realizing that there may be a specific hapa tribe does feel somewhat "good" to me, knowing there are others that are similar to me in a more wholistic way.

I don't know what I'm trying to get at with this post...maybe some sort of consensus:

Does anyone else feel the same way I do? If so, why do you think you ended up viewing things that way.

Do you feel the opposite or any other type of way? Why do you think you ended up viewing things as such?

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u/Ok_Gap_2316 — 7 days ago
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Im a wasian and I hate looking more white

I’m half Vietnamese and half white, and I don’t look Asian at all. My mom is southern viet so she doesn’t hv that Asian look. ( look up the dif between north Vietnamese vs south Vietnamese people) So I have double eye lids, a very tall, and straight nose and overall just look white. ( I’ve even gotten Latin before) but I hate that I don’t look Asian. I lowkey wish I had monolids or something to make my facial features look Asian descent. I feel so excluded from my viet cultural bc I don’t look like I come from it at all.

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u/webkinzdolphin — 9 days ago
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Centering whiteness is something you do, not something you are (thoughts on the wasian meetup)

There’s a lot of discourse about the wasian meet up recently, and I agree with many in thinking that it’s weird to make the event about wasians and not mixed asians in general. Not because we don’t deserve a space for ourselves, but because our defining experience as wasians (cultures clashing in our heads, not belonging anywhere) is shared by all mixed asians. There’s no reason why we should be excluding people who share our experiences just because they aren’t part white. We all know that mixed people aren’t often represented nor have spaces for that experience, and that when mixed people are represented, they’re usually half white. Because of this, whenever we create events, clubs, etc, we should advertise it as open to all mixed asians/people. There could be a wasian sector in the event, and sectors for each racial identity.

That being said, some of the discourse goes too far. I saw a popular post say something like “the term wasian itself centers whiteness”. This is not true. It is just a descriptor, and to assume our identity centers whiteness is ironically a way of centering whiteness. Each of us choose what culture/identity we lean into (to the extent that we have a choice), and what we advocate for. It is not wrong to claim an identity for yourself. But it is wrong to create public events and spaces that exclude people with similar experiences, just because they don’t share the same phenotype. Creating a wasian only meetup event centers whiteness, being wasian does not.

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u/dradqrwer — 8 days ago
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most common multiracial names in the 2020 US Census: Kai takes #1

do any of the other top multiracial names ring Hapa to you? if you look through the table there's very strong Hawaiian and Japanese representation (Nanea and Taiyo are the most multiracial names in the entire 2020 US Census).

full disclosure: I made the linked website; it has no ads or trackers.

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u/aar0nbecker — 7 days ago
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"Start Wasian Hate?": Latino/Asian Journalist Aki Lee Camargo Details his Experiences at the NYC Wasian Gathering and Explains Why He Believes America's Latest Obsession with Wasians is Dangerous

Archive link: https://archive.is/rKW85

Choice quotes:

>Wasia’s popularity is insidious because the identity will always be defined in relation to whiteness. You can’t be Wasian without the hard 'W.' And that distinction matters more than it might seem.

>You cannot include whiteness in your label and then claim to represent everyone.
Compare that term to any of the other Asian identity markers that actually did political work. The term Hapa was a political tool used by Hawiians to build solidarity across ‘mixed’ Asian communities under colonial rule. Identity markers like Asian-American or AAPI emerged in the 1960s from the pan-Asian solidarity movement against white supremacy. These were identities built in opposition to something. Wasian is built in proximity to something. Specifically, whiteness.

>So, then, what cultural and political weight does ‘Wasian’ hold?

>When Icelandic-Chinese singer Laufey exclusively featured fellow Wasians in her “Madwoman” music video, she framed it as representation: "Growing up, I felt a general lack of representation for people who looked like me in music and media." But representation of what, exactly? A phenotype? Because if Wasian identity begins and ends with aesthetics, that’s eugenics.

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u/superdelish — 10 days ago