u/Brill_1193

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IRTG

A follow-up on my last post-- I really believe that lipsticks can help people narrow down their season just as much or even better than cloth drapes do.

Lol please ignore how terrible I look in these photos but walk with me:

As a Deep Winter my contrast is high, my chroma is medium, and I am neutral-cool olive skin tone.

1st lipstick is a bright true red. It doesn't look bad on me but it is slightly too bright on me. This is I believe a true winter lipstick.

2nd lipstick is a darker bricky red that I think sits on my face a bit more naturally than the first lipstick. This is a dark autumn lipstick though so the undertone isn't perfect, the depth is correct.

3rd is a sort of reddish berry color that is medium and neutral. Not sure what season it sits in tbh, would likely suit a lot of people.

4th is a neutral deep wine color that suits dark winters and dark autumns.

5th lipstick is a deep purple brown wine color. Perfect for a dark winter.

6th is a slightly cool-toned, medium-dark mauve. This works because it is the correct undertone and depth. This would be like an everyday "nude" lip for a dark winter or dark autumn.

7th is a warm tone berry nude. Not great it is too warm and too muted.

8th is a slightly darker brownish shade that is still too warm and muted.

Here are the products:

1. Revlon ColorStay Limitless Matte Liquid Lipstick 011 Fire Off
2. TIMEPHORIA Altera Blurring Tint Lip Stain 002 Burst
3. TIMEPHORIA Altera Blurring Tint Lip Stain 015 Flare
4. Revlon ColorStay Limitless Matte Liquid Lipstick 015 Hype Girl
5. Maybelline Super Stay Matte Ink Liquid Lipstick Makeup 50 Voyager
6. L'Oreal Paris Colour Riche Intense Volume Matte Lipstick 153 Le Rosewood Ambition
7. L'Oreal Paris Colour Riche Blurred Matte Lipstick 635 Worth It Medium
8. L'Oreal Paris Colour Riche Blurred Matte Lipstick 560 Rosewood Influence

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

Edit: I use Deep/Dark Winter interchangeably. Sorry if that's confusing.

For years I thought I was neutral-warm because when you have olive skin and are non-white that's what you get told, but autumn and spring colors make me look sallow and sick when I'm not wearing makeup.

I can only speak to color seasons as a Deep Winter and someone who was trying to figure out her own coloring, so I may be off base here but here is what I've learned!

People confused medium chroma and soft chroma all of the time and people also cannot distinguish between medium or clear very easily either. Usually when people say you look soft, they actually mean you have medium chroma!

Olives can have a harder time getting typed correctly, and for me lipsticks show undertone the easiest IMO. When I was trying to figure out my season I tried summer, autumn, spring and winter subseason lipsticks and could see that I can't handle bright/saturated vivid colors in either temperature direction. I look dead in soft muted colors and the best colors on me were deep and neutral to cool (deep winter and true winter colors). True winter colors were not bad on me but they couldn't be too bright.

For example red lipsticks: MAC brickola looked orange on me, MAC ruby woo looked too bright and overwhelming, MAC left on red VERY orange on me, MAC russian red looked good not great, and MAC diva, MAC sin and MAC rebel look amazing.

The images attached come from Anuscha Rees Personal Color book. I bought it with my own $$ and found it very helpful! I was also color analyzed by her and a separate color analyst online and they both said Dark Winter, a third person said Bright Winter but I blame the picture I sent them (they only used 1 image to type).

I hope this helps and people share more info too :)

Edit: I should mention that for my purposes I care about color theory/color seasons more so when it comes to makeup over clothing. Also see: https://www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/comments/1tf73ip/a_case_for_lipsticks_as_drapes_over_clothing/

I do like knowing that autumn colors and spring colors look pretty bad on me because I used to waste my money on those thinking they were the "right" colors on me even though I was drawn toward cool tones.

Me next to my very tan nephew! I look sort of grey-olive and have some surface redness. Second pic is me as a kid with a tan!

I take meds for an autoimmune condition that makes me sensitive to the sunlight. I miss getting a natural tan lol I look ghostly.

I included some lipsticks and drapes to see if that's helpful. I'm not wearing makeup in the first pic or in the drapes. I'm more interested in my color season and what makeup suits me than I am in what clothing colors suit me, especially blushes and lipsticks!

I feel like deep winter colors may be too deep for me? My chroma is medium and my contrast is high. I think I am a neutral leaning cool olive. My best foundation matches are Haus Labs 160, Merit Ochre, Wonderskin Echo, Glossier Light 3, and Nars Light Reflecting in Lima.

For lipsticks I've noticed that I cannot handle brightness or high saturation but I also can't go too muted. Browns lippies don't tend to suit me even if they are neutral-cool they tend to drain my coloring. I tend to look best in mauves, blue-reds that are not saturated/bright, blue or purple leaning pinks/roses that are not too muted and not too bright.

Someone suggested I try asking this sub even though I consider myself more of a light to light-medium olive depending on the season. Maybe someone else out there has similar coloring to me!

Thanks!

Edit: The consensus seems to be that I am indeed a Dark Winter that likely can handle some Dark Autumn colors when tan. Thank you everyone for your input! Clothing color wise I definitely own a lot of Dark Winter clothes, I think I need to adjust my makeup application techniques for Dark Winter makeup colors since that was my sticking point when I was first typed.

NMIP

Got an analysis done by Anuschka Rees after I bought her book on personal color. When I tried to find out my season I considered dark autumn, dark winter, soft autumn, or soft summer.

I think this result makes sense for me. It's been hard to wrap my head around being neutral-cool because my whole I was told I was obviously warm because I'm non-white. But most of my clothes are blues and greys, so this tracks. Whenever I try to go for autumn colors I look sickly, especially if I'm not wearing any makeup.

The foundation tips were helpful too. I do indeed have an olive complexion which I think makes makeup a bit tougher for me.

The only thing about me being a dark winter that is hard for me is the makeup. Dark lipsticks I feel overwhelm my face? But that may be because I actually am not very high chroma, so more medium contrast makeup may suit me better. If you're a dark winter with the same issue I'd love to hear about your favorite makeup and looks.