I know what is குற்றியலுகரம். உ which comes after a வல்லினம் (stops) which is in the middle or end is குற்றியலுகரம்.I assume that குற்றியலிகரம்is something similar with இ (or isn't, idk) I also know ஃ, குற்றியலுகரம் and குற்றியலிகரம் are சார்பெழுத்துகள் .
I know that this is a really basic question. I hope I don't offend anyone for not knowing this.
I am a native tamil speaker who is learning Hindi and I learnt that ड़ ढ़ are not the same as ड़ ढ . I looked up many guides for it online but I don't understand any of them. Everyone says that it is the "retroflex version of र " but when I retroflex र , it becomes ष . If they mean the retroflex of English "r", it becomes a retroflex approximate (ழ/ഴ).So I am so confused on the pronunciation of ड़ and ढ़ . Some say it's in Water when said fast but it is aleveolar soo?
If we look at Tamil - the oldest Dravidian language we found proof of, it represents voiced and voiceless stops by the same character, but Ashokan brahmi didn't work that way, if they had borrowed the writing system from Ashokan brahmi, why would they represent voiced and voiceless stops by the same charector?
Sure it could be that they were trying to reduce letters as Tamil grammar was really strict or a previous brahmi was that way and tamil people borrowed it as some people say tamil brahmi or tamizhi is older than Ashokan brahmi.
But it could be that tamil and other Dravidian langueges were using a different script before brahmi which could be like drawings of objects and people and other living things like Egyptian and Indus valley civilization and as that was too hard to write, they moved to brahmi but kept the same letters with a different script?
Tamiḻ has a dental, aleveolar (now r) and retroflex t (த்,ற்,ட்) and a dental, aleveolar and retroflex n (ந்,ன்,ண்) but there's only a aleveolar and a retroflex l (ல்,ள்) .Why?
ஃ,ச,ட,ண,ந,ர,ழ,ள,ற are the usual letters mispronounced in tamiḻ, I won't go into detail but
ஃ - Voiceless velar fricative? - x
ச - Cha at start ,when doubled (ச்ச) /Ja at the end or after ஞ்
ட் - Retroflex t - Ṭ
ண் - Retroflex n - Ṇ
ந் - Dental n - ṉ
ர் - Aleveolar tap
ழ - retroflex approximate l - ḻ
ள - retroflex l - ḷ
ற - aleveolar t (Now an r) - t (Now ṟ)
but when did these started getting mispronounced ?