u/BrownEyeStankBank

AA is polluted with creepy old dudes. Im a 33 year old decent lookin dude who would enjoy a relationship with a good looking woman the same ageish also in pursuit of happiness in sobriety. These hoards of creepy old dudes scare said women directly out the door. Seen it a million times. Its not just the creepy old dudes either. At young peoples meetings as soon as an attractive girl walks in they are immediately surrounded......like a dogpile.....same thing- run them directly out the door, usually to never come back. Other scenarios include but not limited to- the fridge protecting the snacks type deal. It sucks.

Hey, Ill try and summarize here.....

long story short, like everyone else, my addiction started innocent and small. 30mg tabs, 50mg shots. As I cant get stoned (my personal favorite) or drink (almost completely ruined my life-damn close) due to my required attendance in rehab as a result of ongoing legals..........this was a great safety net instead of relapse and dirty piss test!

Then, being the addictive personality person I am, it very quickly became an everyday thing. I am fortunate enough to be paying $65 for 2000mg Kama bottles (20x 100mg pills) Yes- they are underdosed, but the way I inhale this shit, Id go broke quickly with the better quality, completely overpriced 5 packs. I'm at about 1000mg a day- and I know a lot of it is just going to waste. I've heard that there is sort of a ceiling one hits with this stuff- you cannot get higher than a certain point in a 24 hour period.........

Does anyone know of any resources that describe this chemistry? I wake up in the morning and get a tiny high off the first dose, other than that im just chasing the imaginary dragon all day into the night.

I am aware that this is not the end-all-be-all solution to alcoholism/addiction problems. I do give credit where credit is due- I would have relapsed and fucked my life/freedom up months ago had it not been for this shit. I am stuck at around 800-1000mg a day trying to taper down as I'm tired of spending all this money on a drug we don't know the long term health effects of.

I think its a great thing for people in my shoes with legals/piss tests, and I also think its a great thing to get people off opioids. I watched my best friend who was like a brother to me be eaten alive by his opioid addiction. Took about a handful of other people from me over the years....... Ive been hammerin down 500-1000mg a day for months. If this shit was actually dangerous, itd have killed me a long time ago.....or at least show some tell-tale signs of its danger. I read some posts about liver failure and news articles about lethal overdoses.....I call bullshit. 9 times outta 10 those scenarios involve other hardcore drugs or years and years of alcoholism.

The worst its done is keep me up at night with WDs and make me blow a bunch of money id have blown on shit worse for me.....

The withdrawal is an absolute nightmare without a doubt. The same as opioid. Ive kicked fent- I was on it for a few months-the WDs are the same.

If I could just smoke weed i'd be able to really work a solid taper. For now im stuck. I would obviously have a different tone writing this in a less glorifying way, if I was going through WDs out of 7 and out of money. It is going to suck balls for 10s of thousands of people when they do ban this shit ( I see it coming, its already in the cards)

How AA works for some people. Putting metaphorical horse blinders on, having a tunnel vision ideology. Attending daily ego circle jerks. Hailing an imaginary ghost in the sky- and everything else! I think that's absolutely GREAT for them!

But its not good for me.

Ive been in and out of AA for years. Religion is a fake story about an imaginary ghost in the sky which is completely unrelated to me or my need to recover from alcoholism (or whatever soft, PC term clinicians have come up with to replace the word alcoholism/alcoholic) I do attend AA currently to stay connected to a network of people, but as always, have a ton of problems with the program and its focus on religion, and other weird petty rules or things that go along with it. I have 158 days sober from alcohol today. Less for weed, which I had to quit to piss clean for rehab as I am facing DWI 3 and other serious charges which may result in me completely ruining my life and rotting away in prison. Anyway, just wanted to say hello, glad to see other people sober and not crediting it to giving blowjobs to an imaginary ghost in the sky......I wish you all a life of success and sobriety from whatever was destroying you....

Kills your sex drive/testosterone levels completely? At least thats the FX its had on me..... Curious to hear your opinions/experiences....

Also, for the 1000mg+ a day users, are you experiencing what I am and basically only feeling a light high at first use in the morning then chasing the dragon all day afterward? I now stay up late and wake up at 2-4am usually in a pool of sweat and am basically going into WDs while I sleep. I gotta get off this shit. Ive tried tapering, which usually leads me to increasing my doses in the end to stop the light emotional WDs and irritability. I took this as a way to not relapse on booze/weed because Im in a fucked up legal situation and have to piss in a cup for a rehab program. Thank god this doesnt show up because honestly without it, I wouldnt be able to abstain from getting stoned/drunk.....resulting in prison time. What a double-edged fucked up mess man.....

Curious as to what you guys think about how long it takes from last usage to start withdrawing? Does daily dosage weigh in on that? Also curious as to how long it takes to kick this shit and how long the worst of the WDs last? Any info would be greatly appreciated yall

Hey guys, I was wondering how you guys take this shit?

I have obviously eaten it, I recently got into snorting it depending on what pressie, Kamas are real dry and not sticky, great to mash up and snort.....

I read somewhere that you cant boof it not sure if I believe that but not rly interested in trying.

I was never into this and the needle petrifies me, but any of you hardcore fuckers shoot this shit up?

To say, props to yall. Im trying to taper/quit with nosuccess....."I take it away but I want more and more". One of the worst addictions ive battled. I got funneled into using this stuff because of legals I cant blaze anymore, and Im honestly glad at least I was able to quit drinking which nearly completely ruined/ended my life. I cant afford to go on like this. a thousand bucks burned in the past 3-4 months. ive burned more quicker with booze but still. Im blowing court fee money.....

Hey all, ill start by admitting this, I am in AA and in an outpatient program as a result of legal issues. That being said, I am truly grateful I have several months now sober from alcohol, however on the other hand I am crawling out of my skin not being able to mingle with my first true love, sweet sweet Mary Jane.

As a result, to fill the void AA and rehab do not fill, I turned to OPMS shots, then 7OH products, not knowing I would be dragging myself to hell like the time I was hooked on fent pressies for a short time. The 7OH withdrawal is the same exact thing seemingly as opioid withdrawal. Ive so far spent over $1K USD in the past 3.5ish months. That is a substantial amount of money, but I try and minimize it by remembering how much I used to blow at the bar everynight. This is certainly not as affordable as my weed habit considering I was getting ounces of fire nuggets for $40-$80 range here.

Anyway, I just wanted to say hello, I have been truly trying to taper down but its like that sublime lyric "I take it away, but I want more and more, one day im gonna lose the war!!" I think Pool Shark was the tune. I just wanted to comment on your guys sobriety/attempted sobriety from this shit. Its such a difficult thing to even begin to get off of. I will be surfing this sub for information as ive seen some hilariously bad youtube video on the subject matter..... have a great day yall

It was great to start with in desperate times but the sluggishness and sometimes freezing is starting to become a pain in the ass. Im ballin on a budget. I just want a faster phone, I dont need much HDD space. What would you guys suggest as an upgrade from the Blu im considering the following:

Moto g (there are a few inexpensive models) someone did mention at the store the moto g play kinda sucks.

Samsung Galaxy A16 5G

Hey guys, im glad this sub exists.... I turned to 7OH as Im in deep shit with a DWI and in outpatient rehab. I am a huge weed fan, I truly believe it saved my life, as alcoholism nearly destroyed it completely-many times. I am a member of AA. It helps with the alcoholism ive got like 4 or 5 months booze free, a little less with reefer.

That being said I had NO IDEA what I was getting myself into. Perfect storm for a guy with addictive personality issues. I started on Jubi shots which were around 50mg then worked my way up to Kama 2000MG bottles (20x 100mg) and am up to several hundred MG intake a day. I have ran out at times and gone through withdrawals that im sure you all understand to be the most agonizing disgusting feelings ever felt on this planet.....I once had a fent pressie problem and went cold turkey, while I had COVID. I remember it being a week and a half of sleepless diarhrea barf cold sweats, and levels of uneasy/uncomfortably agony I didnt even know were possible.

Taper is the word that goes down great in theory but when I truly try to reduce my doses I end up just wanting more and more. I am going to surf through the sub in hopes to find strategy, but god damn I had to get that off my chest to people who know what the deal is with this demon.

I wish all of you the best of luck in this fight and life....

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That being said, there is hope for us. I just wanted to tell all the first time offenders (and even 2nd time) that it CAN get worse. You get cocky as years pass and forget how bad the trouble was from the first offense, years down the road its easy to fuck up again- it only takes ONE time.

Alcoholism runs deep in my family and ultimately claimed my fathers life. My cousin died in his late 20s driving drunk. None of that was enough to stop me from doing what I allegedly did last summer. I have been in rehab for several months now and have roughly 200 days sober.

I have a state appointed public defender. Mind you, I was on a suicide mission with booze hoping I would die- unemployed and drained out my 401K's in hopes I just wouldn't wake up. Im not a rich kid and have no money for a paid attorney.

Here goes the story- last year I came out of a blackout to a gun pointed at my head and cops ripping me out of my vehicle. Before blacking out last thing I remember was signing the check at the seafood bar/grill I was at.

I had gone to the beach knowing there was a huge storm blowing up the coast, in hopes to surf some wicked waves. By the time I got down the beach the storm was so bad the beach towns were flooded out. I made the foolish decision to start drinking knowing im an alcoholic and cannot stop once I start.

I am now facing potential prison time. My case at least forced me to open my eyes and get sober again (I had nearly 1000 days sober before 2020 happened, covid ultimately turned my world upside down with the death of handfuls of friends and my father)

The state I got these charges in is one of the worst in the country. Extremely strict minimum sentencing guidelines. I apparently didn't stop when the cops told me to and side swiped someone in their car before stopping and surrendering, resulting in a serious eluding charge.

Its extremely terrifying to be facing potentially going to prison for several years, for something I don't even remember doing.

My first 2 DWI charges were when I was just the legal age to drink at 21 (from date convicted of 2nd dwi to arrest of 3rd I am 22 days shy of it being 10 years apart.)

All 3 DWIs I refused the breathalizer.

I am now in my early 30s facing this disaster of a court case. I attend AA daily and did detox and rehab-it took me MANY attempts in rehab to finally complete inpatient. It was NOT easy by any means with the stress load of court.

My court case is still going on and I am a potential candidate for diversion programs like drug court and pretrial intervention. The issue with that is I am not a resident of the state I am being charged in, barring me from some of these options due to the states bizarre technicalities.

My public "pretender" as I call them, is apparently overloaded with case files as they told me many people in their office quit or left. That person is extremely difficult to get in touch with and is extremely dodgy/brief when I do get in touch with them.

The most concerning thing was they mentioned I could be getting probation at minimum, or 4 years in prison! However, at my arraignment, the DA said their offer was 6 Flat in prison. Obviously concerned, i asked my public pretender about what they initially told me, and they immediately denied claiming 4 years in prison. Now, I want everything written in an email should my case go down the shitpipes- I want at least some documentation showing I dont feel I was properly represented. No, I dont have money for an expensive lawyer, nor does what family I have left.

In my experience with DWI 1 and 2, the paid lawyer was just as dodgy and seemingly careless. Its just a gig to them. They couldn't give the last fuck on earth about your freedom, in my personal thorough experience.

Good luck to all of you people. You arent bad people, even if you are a true alcoholic. DWI laws are NOT fair. Normal drinkers get unlucky and get DWIs. They dont judge the charge by what exactly happened. They can crucify you by what COULD have happened. DWI is dangerous, undeniably. However, my first 2 were on country backroads very late at night with no one else involved, no property damage (except my vehicle) and barely anyone out on the road. That didn't matter when they charged me. My first charge was reduced to a violation DWAI, the second was misdemeanor DWI with 3 years probation. Both judges were 80 years old or older, and visibly senile.