u/Call_Me_Clark

Let’s see how Kegbreath explains two dead American soldiers.

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Alternate titles: “Hummus: appetizer or (geno)side?”

For the last month or so, the r/ Hummus community has been split with the most tedious possible debate: did Israel steal hummus, and from whom?

** post: Israeli Style Hummus with Pine Nuts (i.redd.it) **

Reported for spam. Just a troll post in jealousy of the "Palestinian style hummus" posted recently.

> Dude, how can it be spam? It may be of jealousy but it's a beautiful bowl of hummus in a hummus sub. Get over yourself

> > “Get over yourself” There's a genocide, Karen. This kind of thing is not harmless.

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What’s the difference between “Israeli” hummus and Palestinian hummus?

> It’s the same thing, but like anything else from the Levant Israel stole it and then claimed it as its own.

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Of course israelis make shitty imitation hummus. Looks terrible compared to Palestinian

> I guarantee to you if someone showed you this exact picture with the caption "Palestinian hummus" you would be gushing over it

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Cry harder I need your salty tears for my Israeli hummus

** meta post on r/ Hummus: I love hummus. I love Israel (but not the current government). I’m considering leaving r/hummus over stupid politics from both sides. 20 points 351 comments submitted 9 days I don’t need to wake up to a half dozen aggressive obnoxious shares about Israel and hummus…. **

** more recent post with >250 comments and zero upvotes: Israeli Hummus made by jews from Israel in Israel and have Israeli chickpeas and Israeli Tahini from Israel and I ate it in Israel**

The debate spills over:

** r/ Jewsofconscience**

So apparently in the rHummus sub, Zionists are saying Israel invented it. …

** the above cross-posted to r/ NYT, which is in theory about the New York Times but in practice almost exclusively discusses Israel**

** the above also cross-posted to r/ Hummus**

You're the one astroturfing a hummus subreddit with braindead talking points. "Every accusation is a confession" isn't that right?

** posted on r/ AntisemitisminReddit: We are thiefs of hummus too apparently?**

I still dont see how they can literally steal another ethnicity's namesake and bastardize the Phillistines' history, not that it was a great one to begin with

** posted on r/ IsraelBM: what’s the story with r/Hummus**

2ndYomKippurWar is a sub that was founded 2-3 years ago, and the sidebar reads: “This subreddit is for the discussion of the Second Yom Kippur War which began on October 7, 2023.” It has ~55k subscribers, 2 posts per day and 7 comments per day. The userbase is primarily (from my nonscientific assessment) American and Israeli and primarily analyzes the conflict in Gaza from a pro-Israel perspective.

This subreddit allows calls for violence (primarily against Palestinians) and racist, dehumanizing language (again primarily against Palestinians). Subreddit rules as posted on the sidebar explicitly ban this, however, a review of prominent posts on the subreddit (with moderators active in the comment section) show this is unenforced:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260713213437/https://old.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/176iamc/palestinian\_father\_and\_son\_injured\_in\_missile/

A post showing a grievously injured man and a boy (post identifies them as a father and son with injuries due to an Israeli missile attack) - comments include “This same father and son I bet cheered when innocent Israeli families were slaughtered” [+38]; “Hamas fighter survives counter strike. Tried hiding among his family like a coward. Fixed the headline for ya” [+26];
“Refusing to see the pattern of Islam across the globe so you can appear tolerant. Clown. I refuse not to see the glaring incessant pattern” reply: “Ya it’s always funny to me when people from the liberal west defend a group of people stuck in 500 AD when their religion was founded.” Reply: “Agreed. The evidence is available to everyone, but most refuse to examine because it makes them uncomfortable.”

https://web.archive.org/web/\*/https://old.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1c9s9ed/the\_us\_sanctioned\_but\_we\_are\_all\_netzah\_yehuda/

A post glorifying the Netzah Yehuda battalion of the Israel Defense Forces, which has been credibly accused of torture, sexual assault, and other abuse of civilians. In 2026 soldiers of this unit detained Jewish Canadian CNN correspondent Jeremy Diamond and assaulted his camera crew; the IDF subsequently apologized to CNN.

The comment section is a mix of support and condemnation of the unit involved, however, some of the condemnation is framed in racist terms: “…maybe stop acting like some Arab army unit. …” [+377]

https://web.archive.org/web/20231009130241/https://old.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/173qnaz/israelpalestine\_conflict\_indian\_congress\_extends/k44fg49/

A post discussing a statement by an Indian political party re: the war in Gaza. Comments include explicit calls for violence against Palestinians: “…I grew up in a time where the American liberal media was able to print endless stories of innocent Palestinians being shot at by the evil IDF, presented with zero context as to why a Palestinian was killed. There is no more spinning the narrative. The fuck bags filmed their war crimes and shared them with the world. They are the pigs, they are the scum.
Fuck any governmental body that tells Israel to cease fire. More death, more pain, more destruction is warranted.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20260713221610/https://old.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/1mpunla/over\_2024\_gaza\_has\_received\_10\_to\_35\_times\_more/

A post claiming that Palestinians have received ~10x the aid that other deserving groups have. Comments include: “…Ungrateful waste of life.”

“hope it lands in the sea”

Comment thread (initial comment downvoted, replies upvoted): “Good let them starve” reply: “How about not celebrating children starving to death” reply: “
i genuinely don’t mind it until the hostages get fed. i could not care less about the enemy’s population

Overall, only 20% of U.S. adults have a favorable view of the Israeli prime minister, while about twice as many, 38%, have an unfavorable view. Netanyahu is particularly unpopular among Jewish adults: about 6 in 10 view him unfavorably, while about one-third see him positively.

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New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani has gained prominence as an outspoken critic of Israel, and 27% of U.S. adults have a favorable opinion of the 34-year-old democratic socialist. Another 28% of U.S. adults have an unfavorable opinion, while 44% don’t know enough to say.

Jewish adults, who overwhelmingly identify as Democrats, have a more positive view of Mamdani than of Netanyahu, with 44% viewing the New York City mayor positively, 39% viewing him negatively, and 17% saying they don’t know enough to say.

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About three-quarters of American Jewish adults said Israel’s initial response to the Oct 7 attack was justified, but only about 4 in 10 believe that about its ongoing operations.

30%, of American Jewish adults say Israel has committed genocide, although about half, 49%, say it has not. This is in line with the overall American population, of whom 1/3 believe that Israel has committed genocide.

Is this gang activity, are these children being recruited into militant extremist groups?

Whenever there are attacks by extremist Israelis, there is no police or militia to intervene or arrest attackers.

Why not, and would you support the creation of such a force that would be empowered to arrest Israeli extremists, and/or use force to intervene in the violence?

I was reminded a while ago of this talking point Hillary Clinton often uses (and I like Clinton, she’s just the one I remember using this): “young people get their news from tik tok. Ask them which river and which sea, and they don’t know.”

Well, what would you recommend these young people seek out? News networks, journalistic outlets, individual/independent journalists, academics, scholars, documentarians, human rights/activist groups, etc?

There’s this talking point that Hillary Clinton has used a few times (and I like Clinton generally, I just thought this one was dumb) that goes “young people get their news from TikTok that’s why they hate Israel”

Sure. Short form video leaves much to be desired.

But where in the world of reputable journalism, long form documentaries, academic works etc… do you find information that paints Israel in a positive light?

Whether im watching tiktok (again, bad), or reading a hundred page Btselem report, the only responsible conclusion is one that is highly critical of Israel.