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I've referenced this topic in previous posts, where different writers for AiG display their ignorance of the subject.

Between calling Protocetus a Pinniped or birds only have a pisiform, you can see how bad it is.

However, it also leads to hilarious contradicting opinions on transitional forms like Acanthostega or Homo habilis.

The concept of uniquely created kinds is challenged by morphology, which is why this happens, for there is no way to separate birds from dinosaurs, humans from apes, or whales from ungulates. transitions in the fossil record demonstrate gradual morphologic change, instead of distinct groups unrelated to anything else.

What exactly, if there is one individual thing ,convinced you of evolution?

In my case, it was learning there is no real boundary between micro and macroevolution, and it has been observed in the form of speciation.

Creationists use the ad hoc explanation of a common designer when diagnostic similarities are shared between “kinds”.

While this might make sense for some features like arms or a heart, ERVs repurposed for biological functions can only be explained through common ancestry.

The best example is the Arc gene, derived from an Endogenous Retrovirus at around the evolution of Tetrapods. Without the Arc gene you wouldn’t be able to hold on to memories for long periods of time.

Here is a catch-22 for a Creationist.

Either all of the tetrapod kinds got the exact same ERV to develop the Arc gene, or God made this gene out of an ERV, to give the appearance of common ancestry.

While the terrariums are nice, eventually to build more realistic and less headache inducing habitats, aviaries are needed.

Potential species that can could come with this in an update or DLC I think should focus on Avialans for their diversity and smaller pterosaurs and ambiguous clades.

Avialans:

Jeholornis
Ichthyornis
Confuciusornis
Anchiornis

Pterosaurs:
Pterodactylus
Anurognathus
Preondactylus

Other:
Weigeltisaurs
Rahonavis
Onychonycteris

I personally think it would be cool to see Australopithecines, but it could seem cruel to some people, so what’s your opinion?

Gigantopithecus or Dryopithecus could be substitutes if Australopiths or Paranthropiths are out of the question.

The question isn’t literal, but it’s definitely needed for non Christians in Texas.

Thanks to the religious right, Texas and another states have made it impossible to live without Christian proselytism.

Our nation was founded by people who loved God, but on secular principles of a separation of church and state and no government branded religion.

To proponents of scriptures in schools(my nick name for it)
It’s for an understanding of how America was founded on “Biblical” principles.

Last time I checked wizardry, rape, human sacrifice, slavery, genocide, torture, abortion, necromancy, and bigotry isn’t in the constitution.

Of course the schools don’t teach that or take it as elder mythology, that would undermine their pipeline of future voters.

Indoctrinating children into Christian Nationalism is the real goal of this push, to secure power by funding and supporting religious extremism and delusion.

If the global flood ended around their supposed time, there should be an evident mass migration from Turkey. All kinds would appear first in Turkey as they migrated further out.

Paleontology reveals the complete opposite of this hypothesis, with Turkey actually being a paleontological desert. None of the supposed kinds like Proboscideans or Canidae.

The most glaring biogeographical own of this model are Marsupials and other Metatherians. This clade first appears in North American rock, but it gets even worse. Their migration is a grueling, tedious process, with the journey covering North America, South America, Antarctica, Australia, and a few groups in Indonesia.

At no point did Metatherians live in or migrate to Turkey.

I could probably make a book out of biogeographical issues with AiG’s post flood model, but South American fauna would get most of the attention.

I’m sure this is why AiG ignores post-flood geography like Gorilla do with Chameleons. There is no reason why Meridiungulata, terror birds, Xenarthra, or Sebecidae only appear in South America if the Ark landed in Turkey.

He was racist, recounted evolution, thought whales evolved from bears, the evolution of eyes was impossible, he was atheist when he published On the Origin of Species, wanted to attack Christianity, is the prophet of evolution, and evolution or uniformity made him atheist are a few I can name off the top of my head.

Imagine if we did this to Ken Ham, it would be all about how evolutionists are liars who hate Christianity.

The rules are spelled out in the title.

Any Creationist in this sub, can you demonstrate where the division of kinds are?

If you claim humans aren’t apes, point on a cladogram of Hominini where the separation between Homo and the rest of the Hominins.

If Homo sapiens are related to Denisovans and Neanderthals, are they all related to Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo erectus, Homo habilis, Australopiths, Paranthropines, or Ardipiths?

Any other example of a boundary between two daughter clades science says are closely related, but you think are different kinds will be accepted.

If anyone has ever posted anything on this sub or read any post, rob will almost always comment and he baselessly asserts theropods are birds or reptiles don’t exist.

My specific challenge for rob is to show the truth of his claim, to stop saying, “Teropods are irds because of aviann trsifs,” without listing those traits.

Give me a suite of uniquely avian characteristics besides a wishbone that apply to all of Theropoda. Even the furcula doesn’t appear until Neotheropoda, so he has fundamentally no evidence to support his claim.

When I was still a Christian, the diagnostic traits we share with other apes was more than enough for humans to classified as apes.

Carolus Linnaeus, the father of taxonomy and Creationist, said that he couldn’t find one major difference between humans other apes.

The most common objection I see to this is,” we’re in the image of God, and God isn’t an ape.”

However do we know if this is a physical or psychological comparison?

That means if we were basically modeled after God, he would possess all of our skeletal flaws like our spine and wisdom teeth.

It makes much more sense psychologically with(some of)us being more intelligent than all other animals.

Every time we look at a Creationist’s “evidence” for non avian dinosaurs living recently it always says something about how this disproves evolution.

Dinosaurs should’ve died out millions of years ago so why could they still live?

Of course at the K-Pg boundary all non neornithian dinosaurs disappear from the fossil record. However this doesn’t mean none survived with a few species possibly taking refuge in fossil poor areas like rainforests. Most importantly evolution doesn’t predict all dinosaurs collectively dying out right at this boundary it just seems that it’s the way things played out.

Something like this had already happened with the coelacanth which we thought died out at the end of the Cretaceous. Creationists also point to this as proof evolution doesn’t happen because why hasn’t it changed. In actuality the coelacanth is in a new genus compared to the Cretaceous species and has shifted to a deep niche.

If any dinosaur were to still exist it would be radically different from Mesozoic species. Mokele Mbeme the most famous Creationist dino delusion is aquatic which means it would have dense bones and a flexible tail. It would be an entirely separate, distinct lineage of sauropods not recognizable poster children like Brachiosaurus.

Even though every claim Creationists make about non avian dinosaurs living recently has been debunked they don’t care.

Their theology matters more than accepting the cold hard truth of reality.

When I first accepted evolution my stance was believe God building evolution through billions of years. It was nice being able to consider evolution without leaving Christianity. However I am now an agnostic after realizing there is lack of evidence to corroborate the Christian god.

The goal of this post is not to rip on Theistic Evolutionists but, to see if there’s legitimate evidence for God existing and driving evolution.

The defining trait of diapsid tetrapods that separate them from synapsid tetrapods are the number of temporal fenestrae.

If you look at the back of a bird’s skull where the temporal fenestrae reside in diapsids at first it seems they don’t have it.

What has happened in the case of birds is a reduction of the postorbital bar that separated the temporal fenestrae from the orbits.

However how do we know this isn’t some unique fenestra?

In ancestral avialans like Archaeopteryx and Jeholornis the temporal fenestrae are separated showing the exact formula diapsids use.

And secondly birds still retain components Diapsids use and used like the adductor mandibulae that run and ran through the temporal fenestrae. Another clue is the vestigial postorbital bar the same dividing line in extinct and extant Diapsid’s temporal fenestrae.

It’s such a bulletproof bombshell that most if not all Creationist organizations completely ignore this wanting to convince their viewers birds are separate from reptiles.

When Creationists claim all similar design equals a designer it shoots themselves in the foot on occasion.

In both humans and giraffe the neck is made up of 7 cervical neck vertebrae. While it doesn’t cause many problems in humans in the case of giraffes it’s a different story. Since the amount of vertebrae constricts the giraffe’s neck flexibility they have to awkwardly splay their legs amount to graze or drink. This leads to severe arthritis and chronic pain in giraffe legs. Why would a designer without vertebrae from a giraffe when birds like swans have upwards of 20.

Anyways this post’s goal is to share bad design plans in nature and if any creationist can make sense of them.

When I first accepted evolution my stance was believe God building evolution through billions of years. It was nice being able to consider evolution without leaving Christianity. However I am now an agnostic after realizing there is lack of evidence to corroborate the Christian god.

The goal of this post is not to rip on Theistic Evolutionists but, to see if there’s legitimate evidence for God existing and driving evolution.