We can't afford food but my family wants us to have a baby
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We can't afford food but my family wants us to have a baby

My snack is the last off-brand thin mint in the package because I've been saving it for a moment when I need to treat myself.

Hi, I don't usually post on reddit, just lurk, so if I do something wrong, I apologize. This community just seems so wholesome and sisterly that I feel safe venting here.

So, long story short(er), this year has been significantly financially unstable for my husband and me. I have chronic migraines and really struggle to hold down a job, so for the previous few years, my husband has been the primary breadwinner and I supplement with gigs and side jobs when physically able. I got to rest when I needed and help when I could, and it was great. We didn't have a ton of surplus money, but we weren't living paycheck to paycheck either. Things were really comfortable and on an upward incline and our savings was the highest it had ever been, and we'd even begin trying to conceive because we've both always wanted kids and thought we were safe enough to try.

Then, things just started happening. I won't get into all of it because we'd be here all day, but here's some highlights:

We moved, which took a decent chunk of our savings, and then before we'd managed to recover, our car had a very expensive break down that took a solid bite out of what was left. Then I had two ER visits close together and each cost around $2k even with insurance, then my husband and I proceeded to both get COVID, and while we were both down for the count with high fevers, he found out he was being laid off from his tech job. He immediately started trying to damage control and find more work, but the whole field was and is hemorrhaging employees or in the midst of hiring freezes and he couldn't (and can't) get in anywhere.

It's been a year. We're barely scraping by with both of us working and doing gig work. He got a job at a small local manufacturer and I clean buildings at night. I'm in so much pain all the time and it's absolutely miserable, and my husband is getting more and more burnt out as time goes on from the perpetual anxiety. We have a penny in our savings account. At the end of last month, we had seven dollars left, total.

We're not being financially irresponsible. We've reduced everything we pay for. Any unnecessary purchases (subscriptions, hobby supplies, etc) are gone. Grocery shopping is potatoes, bread, rice, and peanut butter. My prescriptions are affordable only through the help of a local clinic. We drive as little as possible to conserve gas. These $1.99 cookies from WinCo are the first chocolate I've had in *months* and they were heavily debated on before purchasing.

It's exhausting and scary and I'm terrified of the day we can't pay rent, because it's coming, and oh boy is it coming soon. We found out yesterday that my husband is being laid off from his new company because they're downsizing. We can't afford our current small apartment on only what I bring in and nowhere he's applied has so much as interviewed him.

I'm scared. So freaking scared. We're doing so much. My husband has sent out *thousands* of applications and reached out to every single person he can think of for opportunities. I'm working myself to exhaustion and constant pain with so little to show for it. I feel the broken promise of the American dream like jaws waiting to close around me at any given moment, and through all of this, my family keeps encouraging us to have a baby.

*A baby.*

We can't afford to feed ourselves and barely scrape together enough for rent.

My family will listen to and commiserate when we tell them our financial woes and have even helped as much as they can, but as soon as I mention being sad we had to stop trying to conceive, it's like everything I just said is erased from their minds.

"You can make it work, parents always do."

"The most expensive thing about babies is the birth."

"They don't even eat for several months so they won't be a financial drain on you."

"You'll get a bigger return in tax season."

And on and on and on and on...

Just last week, I had to sit there and listen to my mom and sister list all the reasons we shouldn't let impending homelessness stop us from having a baby. They wouldn't stop talking about it no matter how many times I tried to change the subject and I felt every reassurance like a brick being added to the pile on my back.

I want a child. It's been something I've wanted as long as I can remember. But I don't just wanna spawn in a kid and not be able to care for it. I want to give my baby a safe, happy, healthy childhood with ample food, clothing, school supplies, health insurance, and all the wonderful things money can buy. I never want them to worry about where we're sleeping tomorrow or if they'll have dinner on the table in the evening. I can't bring a whole human being into a world when I can't even keep myself and the man I love more than anything in a stable position. I just *can't* and I'm so exhausted by all of this and by the constant reminders that only a year ago, we were so close to everything I've ever wanted, and it was snatched from us and continuing to slip further and further away.

EDIT: I am so sincerely, genuinely touched by the response to this post. I wrote this in a very sad mindset with my last cookie and the weight of everything we're going through on my shoulders, and the outpouring of understanding, compassion, support, and validation has been so healing for me. I've received so many loving messages and comments that I can't reply to them all and that's absolutely incredible. I know I don't need other people's validation in a decision like parenthood, but when you have hundreds of women telling you you're making the right choice despite the pain it causes, it really, really helps cement that it is what you need to do. I admit that I had doubt that I was making the right choice and that added to the pain I was feeling. To have so many people say no, it is the right choice, has made me feel more anchored than ever.

Thank you to everyone who has commented, from the bottom of my heart. Even the tough love comments have felt like love and I really needed to hear it.

The three loudest messages I've heard from this post are that I definitely shouldn't have a baby right now, that I need to be able to accept help from my community and take better care of myself, and that I have more options than I thought when it comes to my migraines. I've received so much insight on all of these topics (and I gladly welcome more. I might not respond but I'm reading every single comment and message) and for the first time in months I feel like I have a course of action. That, more than anything else, makes me feel so much better than I have been recently.

So again, thank you so much. This experience has been nothing short of beautiful and I never expected how comforted this would make me feel. I really, really needed it. 🩷

u/Celllardoor_ — 1 day ago

41F single work in tech

I'm so over corporate America, man. But bummed my numbers aren't impressive enough to quit.

I work in tech marketing in the Bay Area, CA, make around ~200K. I'm a contractor though. I have about 80K in emergency savings as well. No debt, no home ownership.

u/Celllardoor_ — 1 month ago
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Looking for advice

So iam currently 36 weeks pregnant and I feel like I’m drowning. My maternity pay isn’t cutting it and iam just earning too much where iam entitled to any help. My partner works 5 days a week but on the best of wages he’s looking to try and get an extra job with 0 luck at the moment. We were financially crippled last year as he had an accident and needed surgery making it my income was covering everything which wasn’t enough we had help with benefits but that just covered our rent, we are behind on pretty much every bill at the moment and also behind on buying things for the baby. Is there any at home job I can get that isn’t that demanding even the smallest income would help right now. I have looked to no avail and I guess I’m coming here out of desperation iam tired of being stressed and also seeing my partner stressed this should be a time where we enjoy the last weeks of my pregnancy but it’s I’m possible too.

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u/AggravatingCustard59 — 2 months ago

Moving back to BK - smart or forget it?

Hey all, I'm looking for some advice. I'm 41 and living in the Bay Area. I moved around a bunch in my 20's and when I was 32, I decided to come home because I'd never lived in the Bay as an adult. I wanted to see what it would be like when I had a little bit of money to do things (since we didn't have any when I was growing up). Now, nine years later, I'm just beyond depressed living here. Almost everyone I know growing up has been pushed out because of cost. I live alone, and my mom and step-dad (who live about 55 miles) away just annoy me (I realized I can love my parents from farther away).

All I think about is when I lived in Brooklyn for three years and how great it was. I lived with a bunch of women from Craig's List and we all had the best time. I want to be in community again. Not feel isolated, begging people to hang out who never can because they have families.

I'm a copywriter by trade which is.... not a growing industry (AI), and it's very youth-driven. I have zero debt, good investments (420K) and about a 90K emergency fund. I have a lucrative contract here that has said I could (probably) do it remotely and another freelance contact I work for that I have a lot of projects with. Do you think I could move back to BK? Or is it a dumb move? Trying to recreate a past that's moved on without me...

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u/Celllardoor_ — 2 months ago

“Help me get out of collections for my student loans so I can take on more”

The begging culture around GoFundMe is so wild to me. What happened to saving up for your goals? And why do these people always have like word soup ailments: “autistic burnout”, “memory abuse regression”

u/Celllardoor_ — 2 months ago
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I want a baby

I am 40 and want to have a baby with my husband. We have no savings and most of our money is gone by the time we get paid every month to bills and past debt (mostly medical). As a responsible adult, I know bringing a baby into this financial situation is not only not smart, but it's also not fair to the child. We make too much to be eligible for assistance like WIC and have no family support. So, we have waited for things to turn around. Then, some things and the country changed. We're managing our debt. We're working. We pay our bills. We just don't have "extra". So, my heart is breaking having to put off motherhood because of money. And I know that if we need help because of age that we won't be able to afford that either. It's my fault for not settling on my bad exes before, for not choosing a career that would pay better and have health insurance, and so on. With the daily frustrations of staying afloat, I know it's not feasible. But I am still so very sad.

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u/Celllardoor_ — 2 months ago

Park East neighborhood question

How would you say the Park East neighborhood has changed since the 90s? (Including home prices). I'm talking about the area by Sunflower Discount Grocery and the Wawa.

It's pretty close to downtown and I'm wondering if that has any bearing.

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u/Celllardoor_ — 3 months ago
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Self-auto body shop for my baby

Not sure how it happened, but really scuffed up my passenger front side. Worked at it with some Nu Finish and a Paint Touch Up Kit, it’s not perfect but looks much better I think. 🥲

I love my girl! Just wanna take care of her!

2017 Golf, 52K miles, Wolfsburg edition — 2nd owner, California

u/Celllardoor_ — 3 months ago