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We know the Duffel Bags cannot write the word ‘gay’ in their script. I don’t believe Robin called herself ‘gay’ or ‘lesbian’ when she come out to Steve. Steve stated “how could you like Tammy if she was a girl?” Which it was her way of saying ‘I’m gay’ to Steve.
We know Will is hinting in his coming out scene that he was different. Yeah, he mentioned that ‘he doesn’t like girls’. I know some general audience like to believe Will is ‘straight’ because he didn’t say the word ‘I’m gay’.
After the whole sorcerer scene and Will’s power, the characters might already know he was different at the point. I don’t think Will mentioned a gender when it came to talking about his ‘crush’.

I remembered watching a funny skits of men claiming women to be expensive. The real truth is… men are expensive, too. Society wants to push this narrative that women are expensive. Yes, women can be expensive depends on her maintenance.
Ladies, you should watch Dave Ramsey’s clips on YouTube. Many women called his podcast explaining how they were in financial crisis due to their husband or boyfriend. Women need to speak up how men can be financial burden in relationships. If even a man doesn’t directly ask for money, doesn’t mean he isn’t expensive. Men can indirect can ask for money.
I heard horror stories of men eating up the groceries where the woman have to make double trips to the store. Another story of a man using his girlfriend or wife beauty care products (like expensive shampoo, lotion, or body wash) where she has to replace her items. A coworker told me how her fiancée rack up speeding tickets that her insurance went up. Don’t get me started on men asking women to co-sign for a car or house. Men are expecting their girlfriend or wife to financially support their hobbies like sports, gaming, cars, fishing, and etc. Men are expensive!

I remembered watching a funny skits of men claiming women to be expensive. The real truth is… men are expensive, too. Society wants to push this narrative that women are expensive. Yes, women can be expensive depends on her maintenance.
Ladies, you should watch Dave Ramsey’s clips on YouTube. Many women called his podcast explaining how they were in financial crisis due to their husband or boyfriend. Women need to speak up how men can be financial burden in relationships. If even a man doesn’t directly ask for money, doesn’t mean he isn’t expensive. Men can indirect can ask for money.
I heard horror stories of men eating up the groceries where the woman have to make double trips to the store. Another story of a man using his girlfriend or wife beauty care products (like expensive shampoo, lotion, or body wash) where she has to replace her items. A coworker told me how her fiancée rack up speeding tickets that her insurance went up. Don’t get me started on men asking women to co-sign for a car or house. Men are expecting their girlfriend or wife to financially support their hobbies like sports, gaming, cars, fishing, and etc. Men are expensive!

Does anybody remember when Vecna pulled Will into trance? We know Venca can manipulate your mind and convince you that it could be real. Will was focused to came out of the closet because of Vecna. Do you believe Vecna showed Will other things? What if Vecna convinced Will that Mike will never love him? The vision lead to Will self-rejecting himself before Mike could explore the idea.
Vecna knew create a vision of Hopper ‘accidentally’ unalive El in the tank. Vecna knew Hopper’s weakness was losing his daughter (and El) again.

We know Max was in a coma for a year or two. I believe Lucas and Will might have bond during that time. Beside El, Will would’ve been the next person close to Lucas that explore the Upside Down. Will might not have a crush on Lucas. Lucas does care for Will as a friend.
I don’t believe Will is not wearing hand-me-downs from his brother, Jonathan, in season 5. I believe Lucas gave Will some of his clothes since Lucas look like the same size as Will. Lucas is only jock in their group to give Will his jacket.

I truly believe if the Mindflayer got fully possession of Will Byers then Venca wouldn’t exist in the Stranger Things. Or Will Byers would’ve been ‘Vecna’! Can you imagine Mike fight the evil paranormal to getting Will back? Mike using El’s power to search for Will and rescue Will from Upside Down.
I got a lot of hate when I mention Mike would’ve been like Dr Brenner for having obsession over finding Henry. Mike would’ve build obsession over finding Will. Dr Brenner thought of Henry as an object or experiment. Mike thought of Will as a person. I only imagined the damage Mike would’ve created if Will turned evil or disappeared into Upside Down.
I honestly believe the Mindflayer capture Will would’ve cause Mike push El into creating tear between two worlds. Can Evil Will still have Byler moments?

I believe Will was able to fight off the Mindflayer because of Mike. Will stated to his mom that everybody treats him differently besides Mike.
We saw how the Mindflayer was able to possess Billy and Henry because they already have mindset that they were monsters or everyone treat them differently. Billy was disliked by his father, stepfamily (Max and his stepmother) avoid him, and kids at school saw him as a bully.
Yes, Will had people in the community pointed out his sexuality. Mike being his best friend had prevent the Mindflayer taking full possession of Will Byers’ body.

- When Holly was having a slumber party in basement on Halloween, most likely Will had to sleep in Mike’s room. I pretty sure the Wheelers have strict no boys and girls sleeping in the same room.
- The slumber party happened a week before Venca decided to capture the kids. Something happened where Mike and Will might have kissed or made out. That’s when Will saw Vicki and Robin kissing in the hospital and he started asking questions about dating. He told Robin about “dating” instead of “making out”. I thought a kiss or making out would been the first before officially dating.
- When season 5 opening, Will and Jonathan forgot to set the alarm and both have overslept. How the both of them forgot to set the alarm if they both went to bed the same time? It’s clear that Will and Jonathan has been sneaky off in the Wheeler kids’ room at night. Jonathan isn’t wearing pajamas when he got out the bed but Will is wearing pajamas. Mike gave Will his pajamas to wear to convince people that Will wasn’t hanging out in his bedroom all night. I don’t know if Jonathan arrive in the basement before or after Will. Will thought it was Jonathan responsibility to set the alarm instead of him.
- At the breakfast table, Will and Mike were sitting next to each other. Nancy and Jonathan were sitting next to each other too. Mike was pouring a cup of coffee to wake himself up for staying up all night with Will.

I saw an interview discussing how possessed Will from season 2 was supposed unalive Bob instead of Demongorgan. Noah Schnapp had confirmed the storyline was supposed to happen until the writers made changes to the storyline. They thought it would too dark for young Will to unalive his potential stepfather, Bob.
Do you believe the storyline of Will being evil would change Byler? We know the Mindflayer has the abilities to fully possess people like Billy and Henry. Do you think Mike will be able to handle possessed Will to make Byler happen? This is ‘what if’ question and I’m not doubting Byler.

I don’t know if this off topic… but I have a theory that Finn is a Byler fan. Did anybody saw his movie called “Hell of A Summer”? I believe Finn wrote and directed the movie. The movie has a love triangle between Finn’s character with his male best friend and his love interest (a girl). The movie came out a year after season 4 of Stranger Things. Finn wrote a movie where his male friend has a crush on him and fight over him with his love interest.

I’m not film, art, or graphic design major but I remember a creator breaking down scenes in tv shows/movies. Every director knows to create scenes in sort moments. For example, if the scene was serious or frightening then they would create scenes to be romantic, emotional, or funny to ease down the intense.
There were more Byler scenes that were place in serious, intense scenes. When Mike and Will have to kidnap the kids from military headquarters, the pipe scene was place in between as ‘romantic’ scene. The ‘romantic’ field scene where Mike and Will were planning to kidnapping Derek and tie up his family. Many ‘romantic’ moments when Mike and Will were traveling to rescue El.

I was single since 2017 then became single by choice on 2020. I noticed the strange behavior with men when I was in high school. Now, we were in the time where women are openly discussing these situations online the internet.
Can we talk about the weird obsession with men always trying to make women look crazy, stupid, or gaslit them? I don’t know if society gave men the green light to create situations for women. I remember this guy used to steal my book off my desk and hide it under his school bag. When I confronted him in class about stealing my book, he would pretend that he didn’t know what I’m talking about. Of course, I would be look as the problematic woman who wants to give a man hard time. The thing is we wasn’t dating or talking to each other in romantic ways. Even if he thought this is the way he flirts with me, I was super turn off by the gesture. Another time, he thought it was cute to ignore me when I was directly talking to him. The poor guy actually believe being a jerk would attract girls when he ended up being alone and single before his death (RIP).
I noticed in real life and media that guys actually believe being a jerk or gaslit women would give them the upper hand on women. I have dealt with guys who tried to humble or gaslit me out of the blue. I haven’t dated or never been talking stage with these guys. Once a guy tries to gaslit or humble me, I would immediately reject him. I don’t know if these guys find this as entertainment to get emotions from women. Why guys believe creating imaginary arguments would get them with women? Have anybody experience the same situation with men?

I remember my engaged friends or family members would tease me for being single. I don’t date any guy slowly on the fact that he’s a man. These women show off their ring, talk endlessly about their fiancé, and convince the world that he adores her.
Few times, an engaged female coworker convinced me to drive her home after work. As soon as I drove her home, I saw her fiancé’s truck sitting outside of their house. I asked her why she wanted me to take her home if her fiancé was home. Her excuse was how much she didn’t want to bother him… but it’s okay to get your coworker to take you home.
Another story, how my married female family member was upset with me because I wouldn’t want to sent her money to feed her child. I work two jobs, do delivery app hustles, and saving money to pay for college courses. Her child is an adult at the time.
Another situation, where another female family member who was in 8 years committed relationship. She wanted me to pick her food while I had COVID because her boyfriend didn’t want DoorDash her food.
Why do women in a committed relationship always need single women to carry half of their relationship weight?

I’m currently have been single by choice since 2018. It’s rare that I come across decent, genuine guy who fits what I’m looking for in a partner without faking it.
My family members, my brother and cousin, decided it would be funny to call me ‘a man hater’. It truly hurts my feelings that they thought of me that way. I have openly expressed to my brother and cousin how I was SA, almost r-pe, and stranded alone in another state by men. It’s crazy my family members would sided with random men that they don’t know more than their own family member. I don’t have any inherently evil or mean to these guys to be called ‘a man hater’. I have always been nice, caring, and respectful to others. This situation has caused me to not speaking to my family members and other family members who defend their behavior. Some of my family members knew my horror stories with men.

Have anybody notice how guys want one-sided relationship? I know plenty of guys want “ride or die” or girl who would stand down during ‘their struggle’. Years ago, my house caught on fire and I had lost my belongings in the fire. I was talking to a guy during this time and he was my first time interacting with a guy dating wise. I went through life realization and struggling to focus at work and school.
The guy didn’t want to be there for me instead he ghosted me and he started dating another girl. When you go through a life struggle, the real honest truth is that men will not be there for you as a woman. It’s funny how guys preach about loyalty and someone’s being there for their struggles but they cannot reciprocate the same thing.
This experience has altered my feelings toward dating and men.
I’m currently working on my 2nd degree and single by choice. I had another guy in the past who thought I was going to be his ‘retirement’ plan. I was actually there during his struggle stage and he dumping me as soon as he got in his career field. When he found out I accepted in the nursing program, he wanted to quit his job after I graduated from college and work on our relationship. He didn’t want to date me during my college and studying phrase. I don’t know if he thought I was dumb so I declined his offer. Guys really don’t want to be there for you while you’re struggling.

I forgot about this well-known book called “Color Purple”. The author originally wrote about two queer characters and the central character having a fling with a woman. When the movie came out, the director made changes to the story because people were uncomfortable with two women kissing or having a fling in movie. Anybody who read the book knew the central character was queer coded. Until this day, people talk about how it’s good movie, especially the homophobias. I’ve seen how they have broadway plays of the “Color Purple” and they still downplay the queer scene from the book.

I know this might be off topic. I’m afraid they would do the same thing to Stranger Things if they were broadway plays or remake in the future. We already saw how they made changes in Stranger Things cartoon. Will you guys handle not having remake or spinoff?

Few interview clips, Millie seems to be more of fan Byler. I recently saw post where Millie will return to Stranger Things if El was alive. Do you think she would return just give Mike and El a healthy breakup scene so Byler could be endgame?

I recently watched super controversial movie called Blue Lagoon. I read several comments where people ignored details to make into a beautiful love story. I know this might be off topic for a bit.

People were the same thing with Byler in Stranger Things. They completely ignored Mike doesn’t give off a straight man in love with a woman. I feel like people love to ignore things to fit their narrative of beautiful love between a woman and man (especially).
They ignored the true writer behind Stranger Things advocate for LGBTQ community stories to be heard. Sometimes, the writer background will tell us more about the characters or their work.
I’ve seen people comment how they don’t believe Will is gay. Even though, they ignore more signs before season 4 where characters hinted that Will was gay. People rewrite Will’s coming out scene like he has to say “I’m gay” to get confirmation instead of “I don’t like girls”.
How Mike treats Lucas in their friendship is what I imagined straight male friendship. Mike treats Will very different and a romantic interest. Everything between El and Mike gave me the idea that they stuck two people in a room and force them to talk to each other.
I read a comment how people tried to convince themselves that Mike and Will are two straight men. So they could be comfortable with rewatching the show. Again, nothing about Mike or Will gave me straight men.
I think people don’t want to actually listen to details and uncomfortable with real truth. I understand comfortable with society norms.