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60% of Gen Z men have agreed that "feminism has gone too far and is discriminatory towards men" — wow.
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60% of Gen Z men have agreed that "feminism has gone too far and is discriminatory towards men" — wow.

It seems that our men of youth have been becoming more and more overtly sexist and hostile towards women in the premise that they are consuming harmful pornographic media, "manosphere" ideologies, and incel radicalization that makes these vulnerable, lonely, young men believe feminism has indeed gone too far and is now used as a means to oppress men.

[EDIT: Please take note that the surveys only consist of a specific pool participant and not actual global or scientific statistics that should be taken as hard facts. The 60% shown in the title is only said to be derived from 20,000 something participants. Still, blatant sexist hostility has been becoming more and more rampant with the newer generation. As for the entire population of boys and men who uphold such misogynistic beliefs is currently unknown.

Furthermore this discussion's intention isn't to generalize Gen Z men, but to show how young men, even those who subsist of these sample pools are being taken advantaged of and lured into spaces meant to dehumanize everyone in a predatory manner.]

Some findings I found interesting are:

- Gen Z and Millennials are more likely to agree that a man who stays home to look after his children is less of a man (25%, 27% respectively) than Gen X (20%) and Baby Boomers (11%).

And..

- Roughly 40% of teenage boys aged 13 to 17 agreed with the assertion that women routinely lie about domestic and sexual violence.

Which leads me to question what has been inciting these young boys to be so actively hostile and distrustful towards women? What are your thoughts on this newly birthed victimhood mindset as a knee-jerk response to progressive feminism?

Personally I believe it's because the patriarchal system, which promised them the world as a man, no longer serves them and is now crumbling compared to the very oppressive eras these boys revere. They seem to externalize pain a lot; blaming women for their own sense of entitlement and "failure" as a man — of which consists of a highly toxic and rigid manhood meant to dominate. Additionally it is also true that for men, it may be harder to find a safety net, emotional support, and help that they may need to de-radicalize themselves to start working on themselves.

It seems that young women have rapidly become more progressive, while young men have plateaued or swung conservative. Weird.

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u/Least-Spinach5163 — 1 day ago

Why is women's comfortable clothing still treated as less "professional" than men's?

We had a department meeting this week and afterward my manager pulled me aside to say my shoes were "a little too casual for client-facing days."

I was wearing plain black sneakers, clean, no giant logos, with black trousers and a blouse. The funny part is that two men sitting in the same meeting were wearing sneakers too. One had bright white running shoes and the other was basically in jeans and New Balances. Nobody said anything to them.

When I pointed this out she said men's office wear is "a bit different" and that women are generally expected to look more polished.

And I know this is such a small thing compared to actual workplace discrimination, but it annoys the hell out of me because what does "polished" even mean here? My clothes were clean, fit properly and covered everything they're supposed to. Apparently the missing ingredient was shoes that hurt after four hours.

I've had the same thing happen with flats before too, where perfectly normal comfortable shoes somehow read as lazy while a guy can wear the same pair of sneakers every day for 3 years and nobody even notices.

I'm not trying to show up in sweatpants or argue that offices can't have dress codes. I just don't understand why women's version of "professional" so often seems to include being slightly uncomfortable for no practical reason.

Has anyone else run into this? I'm tempted to ask HR for the actual written shoe policy because now I'm genuinely curious if this rule exists anywhere besides my manager's head.

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u/Frankl1n100 — 1 day ago

Men have the subtlety and nuance of a sledgehammer

I'm dipping my toe back into dating a bit and realizing again why I left.

I want to flirt with a man. I want to make jokes and laugh. I want to slowly build up to increasing amounts of intimacy. I want winks from across the room and hand holding and the brushing of legs under tables as I get to know someone. I want anticipation to build until it boils over.

Instead I get compliments about my physical anatomy over dating apps that would obviously not be said by a sane person if they were meeting someone for the first time in a bar. I get unrequested information about his bodily reaction to me before I know his last name. I get offered sex that feels pulled directly from an adult video with no authentic passion or romance. And it. turns. me. off.

I was married for 10 years and had sex nearly every day. I know my sex drive is healthy to say the least. I do enjoy kink and experimentation. But I cannot speed run intimacy the way that men seem to expect and when I try to slow things down I get labeled as a prude. It's wildly frustrating.

I've been single since my divorce - that was about 8 years ago - and I miss a lot of the elements of being in a partnership. If I could only find a man who was patient and whose sexuality involved a little subtlety I'd settle down again. I guess if those men ever existed they seem to have gone extinct.

My friends are mostly settled and they really don't understand what I mean when I say that the average single man's sexuality feels more predatory than seductive but I know it can't be just me.

Are we all having this same experience?

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u/opejustgonnasneakin — 1 day ago

Why are women always expected to give up their career and move for men

Just a rant but i’ve been in a few long distance relationships and experienced this a few times. I have an amazing job that is very very hard to replicate. Top pay for my field, easy hours, low stress, perfect for raising a family because it’s partially remote. I live in a nice city. Yet every single guy I have ever dated (except for the current guy I am
seeing ) despite having a more replaceable job than me has automatically assumed I am the one who has to move. Even if it meant me taking a significant pay cut and having to work worse hours when they wouldn’t have had to. I don’t even have an issue with moving if they were at least considering a compromise or if they had valid reasons for me to be the one to move, except for the fact that the option of them moving never crosses their mind. The reason is simply I am the women I am expected to fit into their life not the other way around.

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u/SupermarketOld4663 — 24 hours ago

Are flock cameras the latest inherent danger for women?

There seem to be never-ending reports here lately of Flock cameras being misused by law enforcement to stalk women, whether they’re exes, current spouses, or simply women they’ve decided to keep tabs on.

In one case, an officer used one to determine exactly when his ex-girlfriend would be home, only to then immediately go there and kill her before killing himself.

There have also been cases of law enforcement using them to track and arrest women trying to leave the state for an abortion.

And just today, I read about a Flock camera linking a woman’s vehicle to multiple crimes she didn’t commit. She was arrested and spent 13 days in jail before bonding out. She then spent months and thousands of dollars fighting the eight (8!!!) felony charges. She was facing life in prison had she been convicted.

I don’t know about everybody else, but it seems to me the world just got a little more inherently unsafe for women.

Simply put: we're flocked.

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u/ZebraSector — 1 day ago

Given less hot sauce because I'm a woman??

Starting to get annoyed lol. I'm curious if anyone else has this experience!

I am a white woman. I go to a shawarma place approximately monthly with 3-5 of my male friends (who are all white except one, sometimes two depending who's there). The workers know us because we're regular, greet us, know our usual orders.

EVERY time, I have to make sure I stand there while they prepare it or they will give me an absolutely pathetic amount of hot sauce. One teeny tiny line across an ocean of white garlic sauce. My male friends sit down, chat, and get handed their food with a normal ass amount of hot sauce.

Meanwhile I get asked, "do you want hot sauce?" and then when I say yes they drip a sad little line across. Every time I have to go, "um, can you put like five times that amount please?" and then keep encouraging them to put more down while they hesitantly add one more line at a time. I get the same thing every damn time and I am the only woman in the group.

One of my male friends always gets extra hot sauce and requests it up front when he orders. I tried that once and got given extra white sauce instead, and the usual line of hot sauce.

One of my other male friends actually has to ask for LESS hot sauce because they keep giving him too much!!

Ultimately harmless, but mildly infuriating anyway. The hot sauce is barely even spicy. Why is there this assumption that women can't handle spice? I know it's not intentional on the workers' parts, they all seem perfectly nice.

Does anyone else ever experience this?

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u/sabigarasan — 1 day ago

Why are there more goth women than goth boys?

whilst back in the day styles like emo you could find a good balance. If you ever do find a goth man, their either supper masculine or super feminine.

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u/Unlikely-Bug8047 — 23 hours ago

Anyone else here a single prude but have men assume they are open to sex?

Idk why men think I’m open to sex, I’m a prude. I get a vibe that men think I’m an easy target and that because they see I’m socially excluded, bullied and abused that this means they’ll get easy access to sex if they’re nice to me. They act like I’ll fold from them being nice, because they assume that if others haven’t been nice to me that this means I’ll fall hard the moment they are. On the contrary, I’ve seen the worst of humanity and don’t easily trust, so when people are nice to me, I’m questioning their intentions and use my discernment. Then they switch over to negging and saying things to do some damage to my self esteem and confidence. That doesn’t work either because I see them for who they are and what they really think and feel.
I’m not on any dating apps so I’m not sure why men assume I’m available for sex. It’s not the way I dress either. I wear sweat pants, jeans, T shirts, sweaters. I’m not glammed up. I don’t wear makeup. And lots of people have bullied me for my physical features that I can’t change, so I’m considered unattractive by societal standards.

Why do men do this? It’s abusive and predatory. I removed myself from the dating pool, but they still treat me really bad and think I’m someone to “pump and dump”. I feel dehumanized and objectified and they always act surprised and get angry when I say no. One guy actually got physically violent and would bully me nonstop because I said no. He kept coercing me, and thought I didn’t get to have a say because I’m “ugly”. They think because I’m ugly I don’t deserve to be treated with basic decency. They think because I’m ugly, I’m just someone to use, treat like shit, then discard. And I see that, so I always say no. Men also do this weird thing where they try to isolate or exclude me from other women I’m interested in befriending. After excluding and isolating me from other women I try to connect with, they act weird and throw around sexual suggestions. It feels gross, creepy, and predatory.

I feel sad because I wish I could meet guys who were actually interested in connection and having a relationship, instead of trying to use me to access sex. I feel sad that I can’t be friends with men in my life, they don’t seem to want to be friends either and they’re always super hostile and antagonistic towards me.

Now I just want to be alone. I don’t want to deal with men anymore. I get bullied so much by them. And most of the time when they’re nice to my face, I find out later they’re making fun of me behind my back. This will be from male acquaintances too, not just men I’m interested in being in any relationship with. I don’t think I like men. They’re always really mean spirited towards me. I think men hate me, lol. It’s like I’m interacting with demons.

Edit: there’s seriously something up with this sub, idk why the moment women post on this sub it gets downvoted by misogynistic lurkers. Y’all need to fuck off.

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u/TA_reddit_0 — 1 day ago

How to stop feeling giant next to my shorter partner?

I’m not asking for relationship advice!! I’m hoping some of you beautiful people can help ME with this feeling I’m experiencing.

I’ve started seeing a wonderful man and he just so happens to be about 2” shorter than me. It seriously doesn’t bother me at all. I think we look very cute together, and he actually loves that I’m taller. He’s very secure and his confidence hasn’t wavered, which I love.

But when we’re standing together, I can’t help but feel giant. Why do I feel SO LARGE? He’s not that much shorter, and we’re probably around the same weight (~120 lbs). So why does it feel like I’m towering over him? Is this body dysmorphia? It’s starting to really bother me. I feel almost like I’m sticking out or something.

Has anyone felt similarly, or have any idea how I can move past this feeling?

Edit: a lot of people are pointing out that the height difference does bother me. I want to reiterate that yes I am bothered, clearly, but it’s by how I am FEELING by being the taller one. I’m bothered by me being bothered! It’s obviously hard to describe, but some wonderful people have also felt similarly so I believe my description came off as intended, and people who haven’t experienced it just may not know that there is a difference.

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How do I know if I’ve had an orgasm?

I genuinely can’t tell if I’ve ever had an orgasm. Sometimes I’ll get to a point where I feel amazing but I can’t tell if it’s just the normal pleasure experienced from being fingered or if I’ve actually finished. People say that when you have an orgasm “you’ll know” but i genuinely don’t. Maybe I have maybe I haven’t. Are there any tell tale signs to know? I’m 18 and have been sexually active for like two years and have tried damn near everything to finish but u just can’t tell if I’ve finished. Has anyone else had this issue? I’m so confused and I don’t understand by body.

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Am I overreacting over this male colleague?

Hi Ladies, and NBs,

I wanted to post in a women's sub because many men would not understand.

I (35F) have a married colleague (40sM) who I suspected was attracted to me from when I first started working here, but I told myself that it was fine as long as he doesn't act on it. I work hybrid and like to be friendly with colleagues. When I'm in the office, I go around to people's desks to have a chat with them.

I didn't want to seem like I was avoiding him, so a couple of months ago I stopped at this colleague's desk for a friendly chat (but made sure someone else was with me so that it wasn't one on one). However, ever since then, his behaviour has shifted in a way I do not like.

He uses terms of endearment to address me, sends me hearts over Teams (IMO heart reactions aren't the same as sending hearts), calls me beautiful and comments on my dresses, and I'm not sure if I'm going crazy but could swear he suggested inviting himself along one time I told him about plans I had with friends after work. He touches my arm sometimes when he's passing by my desk and today was blowing kisses at me even though I didn't reciprocate. All of these things combined are making me feel rather disgusted. I don't want to be fancied by a married man. If we had a close, banterful work relationship then I wouldn't read into it, but I barely know him.

I want him to go back to more professional behaviour but I don't want to sound crazy and be gaslit if I raise this with him or someone else. Am I overreacting? I know I'm uncomfortable but don't know if there's anything that's concrete enough to raise concerns.

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u/Eunomia28 — 23 hours ago

Those who went no contact with their sister(s), do you regret it?

I'm facing a dilemma and I'd like to hear from other people who have been in a similar situation.

Have you ever had to cut off contact with your sister? What led to it? Was it worth it and do you ever regret it?

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u/PalmitoylCoA — 1 day ago

Do facials ever do anything for your skin?

Anytime I've had a facial it was basically to be polite because I was having a spa day with girl friends who were also getting facials, or it just worked well with our schedule and other peoples' massages etc. They don't do anything for my face that putting some lotion on couldn't have done. Sometimes they even just irritate my skin. I've had them mostly at spas inside of high end hotels, but also at day spas.

Anyway, do you get facials? Do they help you, or do you just like feeling pampered / to destress etc?

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u/MassageToss — 1 day ago

10 weeks pp with a 3a tear — anyone else terrified to try sex again?

Had a 3a tear with my delivery and I’m 10 weeks postpartum now. I got the “all clear” at my checkup but honestly I’m just… scared. Not sure if it’s the fear of pain, the memory of the tear itself, or just not feeling like my body is “mine” again yet. For those who’ve been through a 3a (or worse) tear, how long did it actually take before sex felt okay? Did it hurt the first time? Any tips that helped, whether that’s lube, positions, PT, going slow, whatever worked for you?

Also open to hearing if it’s normal to just… not feel ready yet even after being medically cleared. Trying not to feel like something’s wrong with me for still being nervous about this.

TIA 💛

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u/Both_Leave1808 — 1 day ago

Is it normal for me to take all my clothes off to poop?

Ever since I was young I have been taking all of my clothes off to poop because I get very overstimulated if I don't

(I have AuDHD and anxiety)

and it's a problem.. Because what if I need to poop in a public restroom or something?

When I stay at other people's houses it feels weird to take all my clothes off.. so I end up being constipated for days on end.

I have a camping trip with my grandparents later this month and its for a week.. I'm scared for my bowels..

It's really embarrassing and I need to fix the habit or something!

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u/lilghostspo0ky — 1 day ago