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An ITV News undercover investigation has exposed a UK church that claims that the biblical God can fix gay people of their urges. An undercover reporter was told by several pastors at Winners' Chapel in Dartford they could help stop him being gay. News reporter Paul Brand covered the investigation.

This was not completely surprising to me, that this type of practice goes on behind closed doors, but it doesn’t make watching it anymore easier. It really does bring me to have such a soft spot for the LGBTQ community - they really have had it hard, even to this very day.

I feel these types of churches who embrace conversion therapy are part of a cult and need to be exposed and stopped, before more damage is done to those who happen to be LGBTQ & Christian.

Thoughts?

Mr. Mackay argues that the biblical God established marriage and sexual relations exclusively between one man and one woman in the Garden of Eden. From his perspective, any sexual activity outside of this heterosexual, monogamous framework-including homosexuality-represents a departure from the "very good" creation described in the Book of Genesis.

He teaches that homosexuality is not a natural biological variation present from the beginning.
Instead, he categorizes it as a consequence of the
"Fall of Man," viewing it as a symptom of a world corrupted by sin and genetic degeneration after Adam and Eve's initial disobedience.

I know that this is a sensitive topic, but I really would like to hear your take on his views? How would any of you respond to a person like John Mackay? Even as a straight male myself, I find his views to be pretty strong.

Alan John Miller, also known as A.J claims to be the reincarnation of Jesus of Nazareth and his partner, Mary Suzanne Luck, claims to be the reincarnation of Mary Magdalene. The couple describe their discussions of Divine Truth as non-religious.

They claim that the incoming spirit of a child can sense the emotional environment and fear of the parents and may choose to leave before full physical birth takes place.

They also teach that emotional baggage and "injuries" pass down generationally from parents to children. A woman might carry her own mother's or grandmother's unresolved grief and trauma, which manifests physically as a lost pregnancy.

I’m curious to know what you all think of their perspective on this particular subject? Since it is such a controversial and debated issue.

Scar was obviously killed at the end of the original film by the hyenas, so he didn’t live long enough to see Kovu fully grown. Scar chose Zira’s son, Kovu, to be his heir to the thrown. Darrell Rooney told me that Scar was very dismissive of Zira’s other children, Vitani & Nuka - Vitani because she was a female and Nuka because of his stupidity. Scar saw more potential in Kovu.

Scar clearly didn’t want the responsibility of having children of his own, it was probably easier for him to choose one of Zira’s cubs to be his heir - since he saw so much of himself in Zira.

I always wonder how Scar would’ve reacted seeing his protégé/hand picked heir develop feelings for Simba’s own daughter? Zira didn’t handle it well at all. Scar wasn’t much of a fighter, so I doubt he would’ve fought Kovu. I’m sure he would’ve given Kovu crap though verbally. Scar would’ve just wiped his hands with him after all that.

I also suspect Scar would’ve regretted not having children of his own with Zira. He might’ve of even taken it out on Zira, for giving birth to a worthless betrayer.

How do you all think Scar would’ve reacted?

My name is Kyle. I actually contacted both Flip Kobler, Cindy Marcus & Darrell Rooney on their Facebook accounts back in 2018. I actually asked Flip Kobler about Nuka’s parentage at the time. This is what he told me - a screenshot for you all.

All of Zira’s children were originally going to be fathered by Scar himself. From Flip Kobler’s perspective, Kovu’s parentage was changed midway through production because of Michael Eisner being against the idea of Kovu & Kiara being two cousins in a romantic relationship. So Flip is not actually sure if Nuka & Vitani were changed to not be Scar’s children. Like he said it was left up to the director and the storyboard artists.

Darrell Rooney (the director) told me the same thing pretty much, but from his perspective Nuka & Vitani were changed to not be Scar’s offspring before Kovu actually was in production. Mr Rooney wanted the lineage to be clear & direct, Scar to Kovu. Michael Eisner though was really against Kovu being Scar’s son, because of Kiara being his cousin once removed. So Kovu was changed later on. So Kovu, Vitani & Nuka are Zira’s children from an undisclosed mate. Darrell Rooney actually told me I could decide the fate of their father👍🏾

Hope this helps 👍🏾

This footage again was taken from the Leaving Neverland documentary. You hear the gruesome details of what went on behind closed doors.

Footage taken from the Leaving Neverland documentary.

So, this is the part in the LWMJ documentary where MJ discusses with Martin Bashir his first sexual encounter with former child actress, Tatum O’Neal. MJ made it out like Tatum was the one who was pushing for the both of them to have sex and that he was quite scared about going through with it, because he had never had sex before. What MJ failed to mention was the fact that he was 17/18-years-old and Tatum was 12/13-years-old. So, making out like a 12/13-year-old was the aggressor in that situation, was quite a bold statement to say the least.

Tatum O’Neal had a different recollection of what had happened. She stated in her book, that MJ was the one who kept bringing up the topic of sex, whenever they would speak on the phone. So, Tatum claims it was MJ who was actually the aggressor. So, it is a who to believe situation.

If MJ’s recollection was the truth, why do you think he acted all shy and disgusted when speaking about it? We have since found out that MJ did abuse little girls after all - Jane Doe and Marie Nicole Porte are the two public female victims. So, it couldn’t have been the fact that Tatum was a girl? That’s why I’m thinking was MJ putting on a performance here? Was he trying to brainwash people into thinking that the topic of sex disgusted him? Maybe to try and discredit the fact that he would ever molest a child? What do you all think?

I believe that this has already been posted before, but this video is for the new members of the sub, who may not be aware this video existed.

This again is from post-production of the Living With MJ documentary. MJ again unable to control his lustful thoughts of little kids, even when he is on camera being filmed. He also had zero issues explaining to MB that his whole bedroom was decorated with photos of little kids, which in itself is highly suspect. MB even mentions that MJ’s computer was filled with pictures of little kids, which again is even more suspect. It just proves how MJ had an unhealthy obsession with children.

Very emotional two part videos. I wish Sarah all the best.

Sarah is the one I posted about previously, when I showed her support video for Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck.

I wanted to show this video of her disclosing the fact that she is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. The perpetrator who abused her was a family member and it went on from when she was around 4 until she was 10 years old. She goes into more detail about how the abuse caused her not to trust men or teachers in general. Even very dark thoughts.

Sarah's story really does resonate with what Wade and Jimmy went through. So I can see why she supports them. I just thought I should share her story, too.

This was uploaded on the 28th of January 2016.

Sarah Elizabeth is her name. She grew up being sexually abused as child, from the age of 4 until 10 years old. She posted this video on her official YouTube channel.

She grew up a huge MJ fan and since she has watched the Leaving Neverland documentary, she has completely changed her tune and is now showing support to the victims of MJ. This video she posted is very inspiring.

Link to Sarah's channel https://youtube.com/@_sarahelizabeth?si=the6x48QLwe5tmF5

The mother's name is Pauline. She claims to be a mother of two kids.

This just goes to show you the power of celebrity worship. How vulnerable working-class citizens can be easily manipulated by a person's fame, reputation and on-screen persona. Parents/people like Pauline need to be educated big time on subjects like this.