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From the early KOD chapters I was under the impression that solders were generally low level in their [Soldier] classes.
Most of them aren’t carrier soldiers who spend their whole lives in the army and reach level 20 in their [Soldier] classes. That seems more like a Liscor or Drake thing.
I was under the impression that most soldiers were low level in the class and got it when they signed up for the army.
I thought level 20 was like the veterans.
So why does Cloth refer to the Reim soldiers in the Coliseum as average even though they likely have way more levels in a combat class than an average conscript?
Or was he referring to average soldiers in Reim which generally level quicker due to the influence of Flos.
Also this is a side note but I really enjoy seeing the Lizard folk army a few chapters ago I thought the way classes interacted with the evolution of the lizard folk was very interesting in a combat setting.

Obviously as you gain levels you have a chance to change your class. Most people specialise. For example if a warrior mostly fights in the dunes he will become a [Desert Warrior] and gain Skills that help him fight in the desert.
A thing with mages is that they have the option not to specialise and instead be a [Mage], [High Mage], [Grand Mage] and, [Archmage]. We know other classes have similar upgrades for example a [Tactician] becoming a [Strategist] at level 30 or a [Trader] becoming a [Merchant] at the same level.
Do you think the [Warrior] class also has something similar? Also can you get [Sage] from level 1 or is it a class you get with certain requirements like [Strategist]? Alidamus indicates that you already have to have [Scholars] and similar classes to create [Sages].
Since we know [Great Sage] exist like the one in Nerrhavia’s fallen at what level do you have to be to be a great Sage. From what we have seen in the deadlands I would assume that Sage is a very important class to the history of the Innworld.

Before you say anything yes I know pirate is bad at numbers but the fact there are HUNDERDS OF MILIONS of stichfolk in Nerhhavia’s fallen is insane.

Also I know this seems weird to say but the fact that there are around a million people in Pallas makes it seem kinda small. Also I know that Drakes are hugely militant but are the armies of the walled cities too big? There are eight armies in Pallas each one close to a hundred thousand. If you were to be generous that’s still close to a third of Pallas being in the army.

Three leisurely overweight men who have magic related classes and are assumed to be over level 40.

In case you need a refresher:

Glasiaad is the second named rank of Pallas meaning that he must be over level 40. He uses four magical tomes which he can cast spells out of one at a time. In his own words this should “increase the selection of spells he has four times” but he has to redo each spell in his time after using it, which is not relevant to one battle. He specialises in clearing out dungeons and utility magic and is at least partially recognised as an asset by Saliss.

Telim is a Winstram high mage who even Eldavin considers good. While it’s not directly stated he is over level 40 it’s highly implied. Using the magic Eldavin taught him he was able to match house Shoele in privacy magic. His big disadvantage when compared to the other two named ranks is his lack of combat experience. While both Glasiaad and Kositer are far from traditional adventures and are known for being kind of lazy they still made it to named rank. They likely had to both work hard to earn their artifacts and have great instincts in order to survive until old age. Unlike Telim which is generally surprised by everything outside of polite society and gets truly intimidated and threatened by Lyonette despite her having no leverage.

Kositer is the last one and the one we have seen the least of, he seems the most out of shape and we haven’t seen any Skills or Spells and don’t know what his class is. He uses dozens of artifacts to fight and floats around in a Dais. However he is a named rank adventurer in Balerors who is still active and can directly contact the four great companies and be taken seriously. He made first contact with the Dyed Lands and manage to survive and retreat using a teleport scroll. Due to living in Baleros and exploring a death zone safely he likely has by far the most combat experience out of anybody in this group.

Lord Moore says that in every world Halrac killed the mother of Graves.
He didn’t have the arrow and apparently even now Lord Moore wouldn’t stand a chance.
What was it about Halrac that allowed him to kill her.
And how did spreading the Original Halrac into every Halrac allow him to fight the maiden.
I know things get weird with the gods but do only weapons matter. Zeladona couldn’t doge her blade and yet Halrac can. Is there some trick of perspective he has managed to pull in every timeline that allows him to fight with people way beyond his level of power.

Damn if I am not a sucker for enchanted items. It’s a shame using them all the time doesn’t let you level.
If you think about it the items should only be brought out when you are sure you will die without them. So they can let you level but not die.

Also Etroc’s gear is so cool. He has an Orichalcum sword which is objectively the coolest metal, would love to know what the enchantments do. We don’t know what the cape does but I absolutely love capes and robes. And the crossbow is a key to Meshi and while it does seem like only free quivers if it’s on the same level as the key Lehra has it has to do something cool.
Also I don’t know how he managed to teach a Low level half elf teen a tier three spell from a lost school of magic which she barely has mana for but if the spell doesn’t sound cool.

In general I am so interested in the ghost touched people, I wouldn’t mind a similar character appearing every so often with a legacy of a different legend. I am still waiting to see if the slime guy figures out sethe and we get super slimes.

So they say that:
“I’m just saying—now and then, you get [Pirate Lords], kid. Nasty ones, the likes of Rasea Zecrew or Admiral Rosech, but with the class. If there are enough, they fight it out, and then a [Pirate King] shows up. The last one was…”

But in the wiki she is called a [Pirate Lord] or [Pirate Lady].

So which is it. Also how high level are Rasea and Therrium. They are considered as pretty much some of the strongest pirates now so does that mean they are for sure over level 50?

It’s stated that there are more than 48 people in Pallas who are over level 40.

This makes sense as there are more than 1 million people in Pallas.
Which class do you think is the most common with those 48+.

I like to think that like 20-50 percent of adults are level 20.
While like 0.1-0.5 percent of adults are over level 30. Of which like 80% are older than 50.
And people over level 40 are normally like one in 10 000.
With many of those people having high level parents and/or high level instructors and resources.

I find it really interesting how living armor seems to be born in a similar manner to faith or witch magic.
I would love a Toren style protagonist born out of the armor of an important person. I would read that fan fic.
Also I do feel like living armour should qualify for the trial of levelling. They seem intelligent enough. Currently there is no path for the race to grow, they must simply be created using better armour to be stronger.
The reason Paterghost is strong enough to be a grand knight is because of Nube.
Speaking of Nube greater mimics are really interesting. They seem strong and are immune to illusions and tracking. The name implies the exitance of a regular mimic and I would love to learn the difference.

PS if you don’t care about the two characters listed above pick one of the following to reply:

Do you think Eclizza is over level 50?

Do you think any current named ranks in Izril we have seen outside of Salis are over level 50?

How strong do you think Menocrel and Giants as a species in general are (Kasigna boasted about beating giant at her peak so maybe in the dimension they are from they are way more powerful)
How much powercreep is there? I don’t mean in terms of the story scaling up but in terms of characters leveling quickly or being higher level then they should be.
If you think there is and regular people are to high level can you provide some examples?
What level should the average civilian be? What would you prefer?

No Ryoka an ape even a smart one cannot take on a 100 humans. Even earth ones and essentially not ones with levels and/or weapons. One good blow is all it takes and a Gorila cannot defend from all sides. And that’s not including the ways a single low level Skill could probably allow the opportunity for a single human to land a killing blow.
If an ape could take on a 100 people with levels the apes would have taken over the world by now.
I know this is obviously a reference to the online discussion but that discussion was obviously on the side of the humans in our world and in theirs it’s even more lopsided.

I thought that Lyonette being extremely low level in her princess class was indicative of the entire bloodline being low level due to stagnation.
While they aren’t exceptionally high level the rest of the royal family is in their level 20/30s with Ielane being level 46. I fully believed that the rest of the family was under level 10.
I also assumed that Tetriarch was unbelievably powerful.
He is extremely strong and one of the strongest beings, but an army or a high level enemy could definitely take him down. I for some reason believed that he completely outclassed the rest of the world to a ridiculous degree.
I was also sure Magnolia was going to be a major villain. I remember seeing a map with her holdings and seeing the Skill that ejected Ivolethe and thinking that there was gonna be a big conflict in which she bought Izril and simply forced all her enemies out.

Looking back I am glad I was wrong about all of these. Lyonette’s character is better if she is the incompetent one of the family starting off instead of average for a princes. Tetriarch is a key part of damn near every major event to happen in most of the world’s history, so he needs to fit into the world in terms of power.
And Magnolia ended up being a great character which is damn near always morally correct but is often rude.

Pirate has been absolutely insane when it comes to coming up with names for everything. Basically nothing in the story shares a name unless it’s intentional.
However in 10.41T Toren names the undead Litch he likes Deimos.
Which just so happens to be the name of a nation in Chandar.
I assume that this was an accident because the word Deimos is the Greek word for dread which fits an undead Litch nicely.
This doesn’t mean there was a mistake just that a name was accidentally reused which is practically unheard of for this novel as far as I am aware.

Even though we have never seen it I am sure that Hedag gained a bunch of levels.
She managed to be significant to both the goblin king and the Halfling. She also did more damage to the Halfling than anybody else.
Think about her classes she is an Executioner. And she has exposed the Goblin King ( what may be the world’s biggest criminal) to one of its oldest mortal law keepers.

Her Witch craft mostly revolves around old wisdom and beating up people who are wrong morally. And she beat a self conflicted Halfling who was WAY above her level of power.

I am unable to imagine a better levelling opportunity.

Though I cannot even estimate what her levels were like before this. Witches are famously not the most directly powerful class. And we have seen practically no executioners and have no idea what an average one looks like. She has some pretty powerful sounding Skills she used against Gailant but I think she counter levelled like crazy and got them on the spot. This makes sense as despite being a Great witch she wasn’t treated as being high level just good at her job. And also the two powerful Skills she had were about disarming opponents aka Let's Settle This With Fists and making her opponent physically weaker [We’re All Equals On the Ground]. Given the fact that physical superiority and crazy powerful Relics are the two things that Gailant has and that she has probably never faced anybody before that would justify her getting those Skills I think this is all but confirmed.

PS: Here are some headcannon levels I think fit:
Ragathsi: 70+
Goblin Lord of Dreams: 59
Califor: 40+
Mavika: 40+
Anazurhe: 40+ but she did the same thing as Tulm

Goblin King timeline Kevin fights every Named adventurer in the world one by one weakest to strongest where does he stop. Only current named ranked adventurers count so no dead people or people who were adventurers at one point but not anymore.

To clarify alternative Kevin will have the tank, and his shotgun as well as all his standard equipment. He will be fighting out in the open let’s say on the floodplains.
He will fight the weakest Named adventurer ( Elia or Cosmenaut) all the way up to Saliss. Any damage he takes is carried across rounds and his equipment doesn’t get automatically repaired unless he has a Skill for that.

Keep in mind that Kevin put up an excellent performance against the Goblin King which proves he has very high damage potential. However it’s also important to consider that Kevin’s has multiple Skills that help him against the goblin king specifically.

We see that Azy and Teriarch are preparing to leave their world from the better days timeline. And Belavier from the ten years later timeline.
However didn’t Azy and Teriarch already leave their dimension or am I forgetting something, or did we do a sneaky time jump to before they came out.
I like the alternative dimension aspect even though it can be a little confusing but figuring out what happens in what order is hard.

How do you do it? I get that there are a lot of details that you miss on your first read through but I have had no life for the last 7 or so months when I was reading the whole thing. I almost failed my diploma because I couldn’t do anything else.
Do you limit yourself to a certain amount of chapters per day? Do you skim through it? Is your reading speed just insane? Especially if you have a full time job how do you finish this massive body of work and start reading it again?

Something like a lesser baron in Terandria starting off as a [Delusional knight]. What would be the initial and final classes of the characters.
There is an Innkeeper in the story too so that could be connected to Erin’s Inn.
And the “Enchated Inn” could be that one highest level Innkeeper.

Current Horns of Hamerald vs Evil witch Nanette.

Despite putting up a good fight against the Hero of Zethe and the death General I feel that the horns are right below the level needed to take out a level 50.

So how would they fair against what might be the strongest level 40 character we have seen in my opinion.

Aremma was at a similar level to Grimlarkin (who is a very strong level 40 character) but got utterly destroyed by evil witch Nannete.

Keep in mind because the Horns are famous in the future Nannete knows their fighting styles. Her biggest weakness is lightning magic, which the horns don’t have. And she does have the tier seven spell scroll Bellavier gifted her.

Have spells and their impact largely been replaced by runes and personal enchantments and is it just me or have they significantly changed.

Tetriarch mostly fights using his body and flames. Magic is just another tool. Maybe it’s just me but given that he has access to tier 7 magic and is under 40 feet tall I would expect his fighting style to be almost purely magical.

Also pretty much all magic before volume 10 was spells. Runes and enchantments were applied to objects. For whatever reason in volume 10 it seems like along with spells high level fighters use runes.

The Fraelings generally talk about how strong you are based on how many personal enchantments you have on you. When they say that do they mean things like [Lion’s strength] because honestly they didn’t seem that strong initially.

Then there are runes for some reason both the titan and Lord Moore use runes that they can just pull out of nowhere. In my understanding runes were very similar to enchantments but weren’t dependent on the material and were less powerful.

Did I miss anything about to how these powers function? Am I wrong and were runes and personal enchantments always a big part of combat? Because I swear before volume 10 nobody ever used either one in active combat. Personal enchantments were neat boosts on a large scale but made little difference to people above level 30 much less 40.

I like doing little world building things in my head where I build random OCs sometimes in existing media sometimes on their own. One of my favourite ways of doing this is using random generators to get some side character. Then doing a deep dive on that charter and creating my own story and headcannon.

Here are some I use:
Random Pokémon generator:

https://randompokemon.com

Random Digimon Generator:

https://perchance.org/random-digimon

Random Bleach generator:

https://www.generatormix.com/bleach-character-generator

Random One Piece generator:

https://www.generatormix.com/one-piece-character-generator

Sometimes with bleach or one piece I also spin multiple times and then create a character out of multiple characteristics.

I also always have a fan wiki open at the same time so I know everything about a charter I spin. I have dozens of goggle docs dedicated to these characters.
Could this be an undiagnosed mental disorder honestly?