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I was talking with someone about the lore-keeper ending and how MM is required for it. Something odd struck me.

We have Security Puppet game which already links Charlotte to the graves as is.

Fruity Maze which links Susie and likely the other missing kids to these same graves.

So why would Charlotte need MM as well to show us this? It doesn’t really change or add much to it besides questions.

Like for starters this game takes place at midnight something happened prior. Let’s assume Freddy’s at the very latest closed at 9. Charlotte would be dying around 8 before the place closed during a party as we have been shown with Security Puppet and TCTTC. So what the hell is William doing during those 4 hours before MM takes place? We know he’s already been banned from Jrs and it certainly isn’t a far ride to his house from Jrs. There’s no way it took him hours to arrive since he was going 200 mph and weaving in and out between cars.

Which speaking of he’s living in a whole different area from 4, as if he moved. Sure could argue this is after the bite and all but still it’s a deliberate detail.

Then there’s the footprints as far as we know Charlotte hasn’t really been linked with the shadows if I am not mistaken? So what would this even do for her, what would the point be?

This shadow or character is specifically targeting runaway kid. So this kid has something to do or has ties to this character targeting him. Assuming this house is the one they go to after the BO83. Just really gives off BV vibes. Which if it’s him this means he’s also then being connected as one of the graves in lore keeper.

Under the MikeFritz theory. Was he aware of the mci? Why did he tamper the characters in here? Which characters did he tamper with? What was he looking to achieve or get from this? Why do you think he took the position of night guard in here and then does it again like 6-13 years later depending when you believe Fnaf1 takes place.

We know in the first game he was asked to do it by Phone Guy. But in fnaf2 he does it on his first night without being asked.

Is it possible that Fazbear Entertainment fabricated Charlotte’s death circumstances by claiming she was lured like the other 4?

Cause they had to address her somehow since she’s the daughter of FFD’s owner and likely was known by the locals.

On top of that like the dci if Charlotte was found by Henry or anyone outside FE and police got her and the DCI corpses. William would likely be behind bars as the bodies would reveal dna and or his fingerprints on them.

Fazbear Entertainment is willing to do anything to cover themselves. When someone dies or property damage in their establishment that they will file a missing person report within 90 days or once they basically clean the crime scene up to leave no traces.

Cuts corners

Tells people who get spring locked to move to a different area to bleed out.

Calls all the tragedies that happened to be nothing more than a made up ghost story in HW. Among other things they have had to cover.

In TWB when it came to addressing the door that now had a key because the kids had a habit of pushing buttons and locking people out for laughs. He doesn’t say anything about Charlotte here. As if what happened was covered up or got fabricated in some way. If the story about a girl getting locked out for laughs during a party came out. They would be so liable and receive a lot of backlash. Alongside likely having to shut down because Charlotte isn’t just some random kid like the MCI and DCI.

The music that plays in Happiest Day where the focus is Golden Freddy. Is the same music that plays in the bad ending that Golden Freddy also appears in.

In the good ending Golden Freddy does not appear and the music is different.

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Something I was thinking about when looking back trying to figure out how to explain this odd minigame and just rethinking about the story Scott was trying to tell us. Since originally I fell into the belief FGGG helped Charlie87 assuming that the male voice we hear in the other ones belongs to the Marionette and showed he wasn’t present for the mci.

But now I have been considering the possibility of the Puppet’s soul being one of the 5. To explain FGGG what comes to mind. Is both GGGL and FGGG would contradict each other if the 5th kid is Golden kid. Since GGGL treats Golden kid as separate from the core 4. Which would then be seen many times after this including FFFPS ending. Where Scott excluded the golden kid in the GGGL scene coming on the burn screen.

What does this have to do with Take Cake and Foxy Go Go Go? In FGGG there are 5 kids seen murdered. Since Golden is likely not the 5th that opens the spot for Marionette to take.

As for why I believe FoxyGGG and TCTTC are possibly connected Is due to elements seen inside it. Such as the confetti followed by hurray. Usually confetti is used in celebrations such as a party and it’s even used with Toy Chica’s bib as well. We see Freddy handing out cake to the children in his game when Charlotte gets murdered. The bracelet Charlotte wears are given out during parties at Freddy’s. We also see the William sprite is the same between these two minigames. The children in Foxy’s minigame wear what looks like blueish green shirts and pants similar to Charlie.

Whose party is Charlotte at?
I originally held the belief it was her own and there was a pattern of children dying on their birthday. Why would puppet give majority of his own attention to a random child instead of the actual birthday child themselves? Is hls I saw it.
Not to mention how shitty of a father Henry would be for not being present for his own child’s birthday.
But I have been speculating on the idea that perhaps it’s Gabriel’s party.

How does this affect the death order?

Really not by much it would come closest if not the same pattern given to us in Pizza Party from HW1. We know Susie and Jeremy would still be the first two mentioned in the newspaper. Susie by getting lured with her dog. Jeremy by his family abandoning him there at least according to comedian bot. We already know Susie is first thanks to UCN. Fritz seems to be after Jeremy since we see Foxy’s head in PP. Since Gabriel is victim #4 in this game and asked to pick his favorite flavor of cake and the birthday banner seen in here. Lastly #5 would possibly be Charlie herself.

It paints a sad story since during Gabriel’s birthday which Charlotte attended that she could of been friends in life with him. Explains why she goes for him specifically in Save Them out of all the characters she could of summoned to help her save them. Fritz could of had a 50/50 chance of attending the party as well either as another friend or he possibly was related to Gabriel.

Maybe the reason William shows up rather quickly and knows exactly where Charlotte was during this party is because he’s already there as seen in FGGG.

So this has been something of interest for me lately and before I dig into this, I am just focusing on fnaf 1 to fnaf world. As I wanted to explore and reflect back with others regarding Golden Freddy. So I won’t be including things from the books or merchandise.

Golden Freddy makes his first appearance within the first game. Appearing as a crumpled suit and triggered to go in the office upon looking at his poster in the corner hall. We can see multiple differences between him.

• He’s the only character that doesn’t stuff you in a suit

• He attacks more erratically and doesn’t appear to be a performing mascot.

• His scream is a slower version of the others scream. He also has a girly like laugh.

• He can be triggered to jumpscare us by setting the AI of the core 4 to 1,9,8,7. This likely is to connect with the next game where a bite happens during a birthday. This isn’t the first time we see 87 being linked with Golden Freddy.

On the opposite side we get various posters which tells us things to help understand these characters. From 2 kids reporting going missing in the late hours and someone dressed as a mascot. 5 kids linked to go missing. Threatened to be shut down by the health department. Lastly how this location would be closing at years end and that tragedy of the missing kids played a massive role in that decision.

• Ralph tells us “They used to be able to walk around during the day but then there was the bite of 87… Yea. It’s amazing the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know.”

We enter fnaf2 and there’s several things we can pick up.

• There’s a drawing depicting a yellow bear that’s unhappy standing next to 4 children. With the comment “my day at the NEW Freddy Fazbear’s.”

• Golden Freddy like the first game mostly follows the first game where he copied Freddy’s design. What’s more is he also has the same scream as everyone else instead of his own unique one.

• Although the pizzeria is closing they do their final event which is a birthday party. That ends in a bite.

• In GGGL after Puppet helps the core 4. A 5th child appears in the middle and Golden Freddy jumpscares. Which seems to suggest a separation from core 4 and that 5th child to likely be spirit residing in Golden.

• In the save them minigame Golden Freddy can be seen with a similar expression on his face like the drawing. While teleporting around.

• Ralph tells us around the later nights how. The company was going to try and contact the original restaurant owner and that the location was called Fredbear’s family diner.

• The audio that plays in fnaf2 is the same one that would be heard again in the opening of the clock ending and partially at the end of clock ending.

• Golden Freddy also appears in a secret cutscene in what looks like location 0. When he’s present in it the others are seen to be extremely angry.

• Depending how deep you want to look at the extras in fnaf2 The core 4 get paired with Balloon Boy. While Golden Freddy is separated from them. Take that as you will. But it’s interesting these early games and even up towards more modern ones Golden seems to always get separated from the core 4 set aside.

Fnaf3 doesn’t have a lot but from what we can see.

• First is the minigame stage 01 which shows us 3 blue eyes green shirted children at what appears to be Fredbear’s diner with Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie. It’s required to get Happiest Day. To complete it Golden Freddy must leave his post to find and give the ghost child cake. What’s interesting before he finds the ghost kid 1 of the 3 children disappeared. He also has Golden Freddy’s unique eyes he never changes. Alongside a black button on him which can go back to fnaf2 where he was seen with black buttons. Which looks like Golden Freddy is getting linked to the character Fredbear whose location was revealed in the prior game (fnaf2.)

• In Follow Me we see William destroy the core 4 whose ghosts appear in the safe room with him. But then a 5th child appears far away from the safe room, isn’t taken apart or anything then makes way to the safe room. Proceeds to chase Afton around until Afton jumps in the suit and just stands there until Afton drops due to the spring locks. Most speculate this 5th child must be Golden Freddy. This would also show Golden Freddy either has more authority, or the others are allowing him because they’re friends.

• Happiest Day the final minigame in here. Shows us Puppet with Bonnie, Foxy, Chica, and Freddy behind the Puppet. While Golden Freddy a individual child is separate from them sitting alone at the table. Until the Puppet child gives them cake. Which leads to the child to stop crying then the 6 moving on together as balloons float up and they leave their masks behind.

•What’s more is Happiest Day seems to be set up very similar to the diner.

• We finally see Spring Bonnie appear as one of the posters in the game as well.

Fnaf4 comes around this is where we see Golden Freddy really shines in.

We finally go to the location we have been hearing and seeing from the prior 2 games.

• Fredbear’s family diner where Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie are on stage together just like stage 01.

• Golden seems to have normal like eyes and is referred to as Fredbear by his brother. “Hey guys I think the little man said he wants to give Fredbear a big kiss!”

• A birthday party is taking place at the end of the week. Which ends in a child being bit and who later is heard flatlining.

• This same child claims the core 4 as his friends while excluding Fredbear from it. During the final scene Fredbear Plush separated himself from the other 4 positioning himself to be directly in front of BV while telling him:

“You’re broken. We are still your friends. Do you still believe that? I’m still here. I will put you back together.”

• Fredbear Plush shares traits with the Marionette who was seen prior to always be helping the children and trying to stop the killer.

- Same focused gaze watching you similar to both the Marionette following you in the fnaf2 cutscenes and his phantom counterpart.

- Fredbear Plush can be seen on top of a grandfather clock yet the music box is called my grandfather’s clock.

- There are two teasers one of Freddy when brightened has strings attached to it. The other being on the bed with Nightmarionne behind it.

- It behaves with supernatural like abilities.

• Nightmare Fredbear makes an appearance but only after the other 4 are gone separating him yet again. Upon beating his night you get the final scene where Fredbear Plush promises to put BV back together. Linking BV to Fredbear further.

• We know this party for a fact is for BV. Cause Balloon child tells BV. “Are you going to the party? Everyone is going to the party. Oh wait you have to go! It’s YOUR birthday! Haha.” While putting in all caps YOUR

Pigtail girl tells him “ why do you look so worried? See you at the party! Ha ha ha!”

• Can’t forget 87. We get multiple teasers asking “Was it me?” While Nightmare Foxy had the numbers 87 in his eye.
Golden has 1987 as an Easter egg in the first game, second game linked to a bite and party. Then it continues to be elaborated with the games after continuing this plot line. Of course I am not saying BV himself was bit in that year cause it’s set in stone that he was bit in 1983.

Lastly bringing in Fnaf World which is like a cherry on top of all this.

• In the clock ending intro we hear the fnaf2 audio play in the background.

• A pair of yellow eyes who gets shown to be none other than a glitching Fredbear Plush. These clocks he insists we must get. Share fnaf3 details to the minigames seen in fnaf3.

• It’s unlikely the player is BV as the plush tells us: “There is a task for you to complete. You have to leave breadcrumbs for him, to help him find his way.”

And says “The truth is that there is no safe place. You don’t understand that; you were made for one thing.” Then goes on about the tasks and how we must find the clocks again.

• Upon completion fnaf2 audio plays again. Glitch Bear tells who is most likely BV.

“We are still your friends. Do you believe that?” Pretty much same things he said back in 4 to BV.
The pieces are in place for you. All you have to do is find them. Rest.”

• Upon completion you’re rewarded a crying child statue who is no longer crying. Just like when given cake in Happiest Day before moving on with the others. That ghost child is no longer crying.

So this has been something of interest for me lately and before I dig into this, I am just focusing on fnaf 1 to fnaf world. As I wanted to explore and reflect back with others regarding Golden Freddy. So I won’t be including things from the books or merchandise.

Golden Freddy makes his first appearance within the first game. Appearing as a crumpled suit and triggered to go in the office upon looking at his poster in the corner hall. We can see multiple differences between him.

• He’s the only character that doesn’t stuff you in a suit

• He attacks more erratically and doesn’t appear to be a performing mascot.

• His scream is a slower version of the others scream. He also has a girly like laugh.

• He can be triggered to jumpscare us by setting the AI of the core 4 to 1,9,8,7. This likely is to connect with the next game where a bite happens during a birthday. This isn’t the first time we see 87 being linked with Golden Freddy.

On the opposite side we get various posters which tells us things to help understand these characters. From 2 kids reporting going missing in the late hours and someone dressed as a mascot. 5 kids linked to go missing. Threatened to be shut down by the health department. Lastly how this location would be closing at years end and that tragedy of the missing kids played a massive role in that decision.

• Ralph tells us “They used to be able to walk around during the day but then there was the bite of 87… Yea. It’s amazing the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know.”

We enter fnaf2 and there’s several things we can pick up.

• There’s a drawing depicting a yellow bear that’s unhappy standing next to 4 children. With the comment “my day at the NEW Freddy Fazbear’s.”

• Golden Freddy like the first game mostly follows the first game where he copied Freddy’s design. What’s more is he also has the same scream as everyone else instead of his own unique one.

• Although the pizzeria is closing they do their final event which is a birthday party. That ends in a bite.

• In GGGL after Puppet helps the core 4. A 5th child appears in the middle and Golden Freddy jumpscares. Which seems to suggest a separation from core 4 and that 5th child to likely be spirit residing in Golden.

• In the save them minigame Golden Freddy can be seen with a similar expression on his face like the drawing. While teleporting around.

• Ralph tells us around the later nights how. The company was going to try and contact the original restaurant owner and that the location was called Fredbear’s family diner.

• The audio that plays in fnaf2 is the same one that would be heard again in the opening of the clock ending and partially at the end of clock ending.

• Golden Freddy also appears in a secret cutscene in what looks like location 0. When he’s present in it the others are seen to be extremely angry.

• Depending how deep you want to look at the extras in fnaf2 The core 4 get paired with BV. While Golden Freddy is separated from them. Take that as you will. But it’s interesting these early games and even up towards more modern ones Golden seems to always get separated from the core 4 set aside.

Fnaf3 doesn’t have a lot but from what we can see.

• First is the minigame stage 01 which shows us 3 blue eyes green shirted children at what appears to be Fredbear’s diner with Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie. It’s required to get Happiest Day. To complete it Golden Freddy must leave his post to find and give the ghost child cake. What’s interesting before he finds the ghost kid 1 of the 3 children disappeared. He also has Golden Freddy’s unique eyes he never changes. Alongside a black button on him which can go back to fnaf2 where he was seen with black buttons. Which looks like Golden Freddy is getting linked to the character Fredbear whose location was revealed in the prior game (fnaf2.)

• In Follow Me we see William destroy the core 4 whose ghosts appear in the safe room with him. But then a 5th child appears far away from the safe room, isn’t taken apart or anything then makes way to the safe room. Proceeds to chase Afton around until Afton jumps in the suit and just stands there until Afton drops due to the spring locks. Most speculate this 5th child must be Golden Freddy. This would also show Golden Freddy either has more authority, or the others are allowing him because they’re friends.

• Happiest Day the final minigame in here. Shows us Puppet with Bonnie, Foxy, Chica, and Freddy behind the Puppet. While Golden Freddy a individual child is separate from them sitting alone at the table. Until the Puppet child gives them cake. Which leads to the child to stop crying then the 6 moving on together as balloons float up and they leave their masks behind.

•What’s more is Happiest Day seems to be set up very similar to the diner.

• We finally see Spring Bonnie appear as one of the posters in the game as well.

Fnaf4 comes around this is where we see Golden Freddy really shines in.

We finally go to the location we have been hearing and seeing from the prior 2 games.

• Fredbear’s family diner where Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie are on stage together just like stage 01.

• Golden seems to have normal like eyes and is referred to as Fredbear by his brother. “Hey guys I think the little man said he wants to give Fredbear a big kiss!”

• A birthday party is taking place at the end of the week. Which ends in a child being bit and who later is heard flatlining.

• This same child claims the core 4 as his friends while excluding Fredbear from it. During the final scene Fredbear Plush separated himself from the other 4 positioning himself to be directly in front of BV while telling him:

“You’re broken. We are still your friends. Do you still believe that? I’m still here. I will put you back together.”

• Fredbear Plush shares traits with the Marionette who was seen prior to always be helping the children and trying to stop the killer.

- Same focused gaze watching you similar to both the Marionette following you in the fnaf2 cutscenes and his phantom counterpart.

- on top of a grandfather clock yet the music box is called my grandfather’s clock.

- There are two teasers one of Freddy when brightened has strings attached to it. The other being on the bed with Nightmarionne behind it.

- It behaves with supernatural like abilities.

• Nightmare Fredbear makes an appearance but only after the other 4 are gone separating him yet again. Upon beating his night you get the final scene where Fredbear Plush promises to put BV back together. Linking BV to Fredbear further.

• We know this party for a fact is for BV. Cause Balloon child tells BV. “Are you going to the party? Everyone is going to the party. Oh wait you have to go! It’s YOUR birthday! Haha.” While putting in all caps YOUR

Pigtail girl tells him “ why do you look so worried? See you at the party! Ha ha ha!”

• Can’t forget 87. We get multiple teasers asking “Was it me?” While Nightmare Foxy had the numbers 87 in his eye.
Golden has 1987 as an Easter egg in the first game, second game linked to a bite and party. Then it continues to be elaborated with the games after continuing this plot line. Of course I am not saying BV himself was bit in that year cause it’s set in stone that he was bit in 1983.

Lastly bringing in Fnaf World which is like a cherry on top of all this.

• In the clock ending intro we hear the fnaf2 audio play in the background.

• A pair of yellow eyes who gets shown to be none other than a glitching Fredbear Plush. These clocks he insists we must get. Share fnaf3 details to the minigames seen in fnaf3.

• It’s unlikely the player is BV as the plush tells us: “There is a task for you to complete. You have to leave breadcrumbs for him, to help him find his way.”

And says “The truth is that there is no safe place. You don’t understand that; you were made for one thing.” Then goes on about the tasks and how we must find the clocks again.

• Upon completion fnaf2 audio plays again. Glitch Bear tells who is most likely BV.

“We are still your friends. Do you believe that?” Pretty much same things he said back in 4 to BV.
The pieces are in place for you. All you have to do is find them. Rest.”

• Upon completion you’re rewarded a crying child statue who is no longer crying. Just like when given cake in Happiest Day before moving on with the others. That ghost child is no longer crying.

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