Ok I've been on here bitching quite a lot about the show in general but the end was absolutely gorgeous and it sort of made up for the awfulness of her horrific demise. At least Sheridan gave us that! I absolutely loved her last narration too.
Find the show traumatic tbh.
Historically, across the entire era of westward expansion, the mortality rate hovered around 10% (1 in 10 pioneers died). Most wagon trains arrived at their destinations with the vast majority of their travelers intact.
In 1883, the wagon train starts with roughly 100 immigrants. By the time they reach the final episodes, fewer than 10 are still alive. That is a 90% mortality rate. [1]
Why is the show so unrealistically brutal?
Viewers and historians have pointed out that show creator Taylor Sheridan basically condensed every single nightmare scenario that happened to all pioneers over a 40-year period and forced them onto this one specific group of people in a matter of months. [1]
It is completely fair to hate the show for this. It stops being a historical drama and turns into a relentless "misery marathon" designed to make you weep, rather than telling an accurate story of pioneer migration. [1]
It's a trauma fest. Me no like.
Why oh why did she and Sam part ways, it makes zero sense!!! She said he saved her life twice and was sent from God, surely with the treacherous nature of the rest of the trail to Oregon he would NEVER have left her!! Also I read elsewhere they were 'married' Ain't saw no marriage anywhere. Ugh annoyed me so much, specially as I know already he'll never see her again..if he had done his job as her 'husband' he would have protected her from the other tribe and she would have lived! Just makes me so MAD. Sam should never have left her, that's not what a husband does.
*edited to add, what would be your top recommendation for a show to follow this?? The void is brutal.
Oh boy, I knew this day was coming, but gosh darn, it suckssss. 1. Do you think there is aaaany chance they'd make a season 3 or would it have happened by now? 2. How satisfying did you find the end? I was pretty gutted for Bill tbh. I think that was a bit harsh on the part of his wife. Also felt a bit dissatisfied with how things weren't really wrapped up in the basement, kinda would have liked to see the team heading back for another interview...but I guess they didn't know it was the end end, right? When they wrote it.
Oh and also, side note, I felt Wendy was mega harsh on Kay- like we all shift our behaviour and language when talking to an ex, she *was* trying to bring Wendy into her kids life by asking her ex husband if she could, give the girl a chance sheesh- much as I loved Wendy's whole vibe, based on that behavior Kay had a lucky escape- not that I loved Kay that much tbh lol.
Mine has got to be Holden, I just LOVE him, Bill is a close second, he's a ROCK.
Heeyy, happy to be here- I am wondering if anyone here has successfully navigated their desire to be a trad wife / SAHM without the actual blessing of your husband? My husband is a 'traditonal' 50/50 feminist leaning man, brought up by a feminist single mom and he's also left leaning in his politics. When we met I was just finishing up my PhD and still had all kinds of career aspirations and no inkling I'd ever really want to be a fully trad wife- but the signs were there hah, just not to my husband unfortunately.
He allowed me to give up my 9-5 (which I only had for a few years, I've always been freelance artistic and he knew this) to work on my online coaching business, and then a couple of years later he finally agree to allow me to homeschool our son- but he is holding a fair bit of resentment against me now because I have sort of 'refused' to go and get another 9-5- he says he's been patient and my biz just hasn't worked out (it's been very high and low, big peaks with income and lots of dry spells and very low right now due to homeschooling priorities) - tbh I have been considering some other form of income, I'm not actually refusing to everrrr get some more income but I absolutely cannot bring myself to go back into the 9-5 work place but it seems to be his main desire for me to do - his income is pretty basic even though he works 2 jobs - we're not 'making it' although overall he has provided a pretty incredible lifestyle these last 13 years, even though I judge him pretty harshly at times for not yet securing us a home since we relocated countries over 9 years ago and 5 years ago sold our home etc, I also judge he's not more ambitious or resourceful and wants me to step in and bridge the income gap...
We're going to go to some counselling about it- but it's such an exhausting battle- I really feel vastly under-appreciated for my contributions as a wife and mother and under sooo much pressure to 'get a job'
Anyone successfully navigated this with their husband? He has said he's love me to be able to just be a stay at home homemaker 'if only it were possible' but it's not and if I want nice things like travel, a nice house, date nights , a car etc, then I have to step up. This makes me feel soooo sad :((( I want to say, hey no I don't want these nice things, but in reality I kinda do- we always travel to the usa every year from ireland and it's so fulfilling and I do want a spacious home, we have 5 kids (4 are age 20 + and don't live with us but 3 do and tbh they all still need a lot of support financial and otherwise as young adults) and lots of extended family- but also I can 'make do' I don't need luxury and extravagance, but I do desire a certain standard of living. Ugh. Any advice and experiences so welcome - I hope to find kindness in the responses! Also just to add, i am 52 years old now and just feel soo much fear and exhaustion to try to step back into hustle & career mode, I feel deep sadness that I spent my early motherhood years hustling trying to 'built a career' I feel really cheated out of what was most important and not simply by my husband but mostly by societal feminist programming. We met and married in our mid 30's with 2 kids each and blended transatlantic families which is another reason why we actually *need* to travel- we have aging parents in both USA and Ireland. His mom actually has 2 houses in USA we could live in and probably receive much more financial support but we're settled in Ireland right now because of my aging parents, it's all so complicated.
hey, so I just finished the agency and loooveeed it so much- I am craving a similar vibe and ofc have read about the bureau, I started e1 s1 and it was just so similar cloned plot, (I know it's the original) but with unfamiliar actors and locations etc, I almost wanna skip to season 3 because ofc the agency was left on such a cliffhanger...what do you think? Just watch from the start?