Left wing vs. Right wing: the primary fragmentation that contributes to misandrist's success

One of the biggest issues I observe among men, aside from their passivity, is that they remain locked in constant internal conflict. They fracture into opposing camps, argue endlessly over doctrine, and commit themselves to competing ideological banners, all of which prevents any real unification or coordinated action.

In any collective body, such fragmentation functions as a form of structural weakening: attention is diverted away from a shared material position and absorbed into internal disputes over identity and interpretation. In that process, collective agency dissolves before it can fully stabilize into action.

This fragmentation, however, is not only produced among men but upon them, through what is best understood as a division of labor between two political factions that appear to be enemies but function as one operation. The left-wing performs open hostility: humiliating, dehumanizing, at times violent. And thereby generates fear, establishing the baseline against which every other option will be measured. The right-wing performs relief: it displays no explicit hostility toward men and openly opposes the left-wing, particularly it's most fearsome aspects such as feminism, and so appears to the exhausted men not as an adversary but as a refuge, the reasonable side worth dealing with. Yet the relief it offers is not a concession but merely the absence of the feminist threat, presented as a gift; measured against feminist's aggression it looks generous, while measured on its own terms it advances the same essential program, its substance intact and only its framing changed. In opposition to the left's open dehumanization, the right affirms men, telling them they have a place, a role, a purpose, and then defining that purpose so that it serves the very ends feminists pursued by force. The harm is not removed but made appealing, reframed until men can receive it as dignity and carry it themselves, in their own name, as though it were their own; and the most effective bearers of this "good-cop" function are figures drawn from among the men themselves, so that domination arrives wearing the face of self-expression. Consent thus replaces compliance, and the operation completes the fragmentation with which it began: those who see only the left's hostility rally to the right in gratitude, those who mistrust the right are painted as enemies indistinguishable from left's targets, and the men pour their energy into choosing between two postures that were both authored by their ennemies.

Men therefore cease to appear as a single force and instead become a field of opposition against themselves: each faction defining itself less by what it builds than by what it rejects within the other.

In contrast, women operate with a comparatively higher degree of internal coordination. Their positions are more consolidated, their messaging more unified, and their strategic direction less diluted by internal division. This asymmetry of cohesion produces an imbalance in influence, not through superiority of intent, but through differences in organization.

It is therefore no surprise that no governing structure, no institutional order, and no formal authority appear to consistently prioritize men interests as a unified whole. Where one group presents itself in a fragmented form and another in a more coherent form, political recognition tends to follow coherence rather than quantity. Power does not respond equally to all signals; it organizes around what is concentrated, sustained, and legible.

Political recognition is not granted; it is extracted through cohesion. And where cohesion is absent, interests remain fragmented, translated through other existing categories of power rather than articulated in their own name.

Thus, men remain politically legible as individuals, but politically ineffective as a collective body: present everywhere, but acting nowhere as one force; while women, by contrast, are able to convert internal cohesion into external presence.

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u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago

Left wing vs. Right wing: the primary fragmentation that contributes to misandrist's success

One of the biggest issues I observe among men, aside from their passivity, is that they remain locked in constant internal conflict. They fracture into opposing camps, argue endlessly over doctrine, and commit themselves to competing ideological banners, all of which prevents any real unification or coordinated action.

In any collective body, such fragmentation functions as a form of structural weakening: attention is diverted away from a shared material position and absorbed into internal disputes over identity and interpretation. In that process, collective agency dissolves before it can fully stabilize into action.

This fragmentation, however, is not only produced among men but upon them, through what is best understood as a division of labor between two political factions that appear to be enemies but function as one operation. The left-wing performs open hostility: humiliating, dehumanizing, at times violent. And thereby generates fear, establishing the baseline against which every other option will be measured. The right-wing performs relief: it displays no explicit hostility toward men and openly opposes the left-wing, particularly it's most fearsome aspects such as feminism, and so appears to the exhausted men not as an adversary but as a refuge, the reasonable side worth dealing with. Yet the relief it offers is not a concession but merely the absence of the feminist threat, presented as a gift; measured against feminist's aggression it looks generous, while measured on its own terms it advances the same essential program, its substance intact and only its framing changed. In opposition to the left's open dehumanization, the right affirms men, telling them they have a place, a role, a purpose, and then defining that purpose so that it serves the very ends feminists pursued by force. The harm is not removed but made appealing, reframed until men can receive it as dignity and carry it themselves, in their own name, as though it were their own; and the most effective bearers of this "good-cop" function are figures drawn from among the men themselves, so that domination arrives wearing the face of self-expression. Consent thus replaces compliance, and the operation completes the fragmentation with which it began: those who see only the left's hostility rally to the right in gratitude, those who mistrust the right are painted as enemies indistinguishable from left's targets, and the men pour their energy into choosing between two postures that were both authored by their ennemies.

Men therefore cease to appear as a single force and instead become a field of opposition against themselves: each faction defining itself less by what it builds than by what it rejects within the other.

In contrast, women operate with a comparatively higher degree of internal coordination. Their positions are more consolidated, their messaging more unified, and their strategic direction less diluted by internal division. This asymmetry of cohesion produces an imbalance in influence, not through superiority of intent, but through differences in organization.

It is therefore no surprise that no governing structure, no institutional order, and no formal authority appear to consistently prioritize men interests as a unified whole. Where one group presents itself in a fragmented form and another in a more coherent form, political recognition tends to follow coherence rather than quantity. Power does not respond equally to all signals; it organizes around what is concentrated, sustained, and legible.

Political recognition is not granted; it is extracted through cohesion. And where cohesion is absent, interests remain fragmented, translated through other existing categories of power rather than articulated in their own name.

Thus, men remain politically legible as individuals, but politically ineffective as a collective body: present everywhere, but acting nowhere as one force; while women, by contrast, are able to convert internal cohesion into external presence.

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u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago

Left wing vs. Right wing: the primary fragmentation that contributes to misandrist's success

One of the biggest issues I observe among men, aside from their passivity, is that they remain locked in constant internal conflict. They fracture into opposing camps, argue endlessly over doctrine, and commit themselves to competing ideological banners, all of which prevents any real unification or coordinated action.

In any collective body, such fragmentation functions as a form of structural weakening: attention is diverted away from a shared material position and absorbed into internal disputes over identity and interpretation. In that process, collective agency dissolves before it can fully stabilize into action.

This fragmentation, however, is not only produced among men but upon them, through what is best understood as a division of labor between two political factions that appear to be enemies but function as one operation. The left-wing performs open hostility: humiliating, dehumanizing, at times violent. And thereby generates fear, establishing the baseline against which every other option will be measured. The right-wing performs relief: it displays no explicit hostility toward men and openly opposes the left-wing, particularly it's most fearsome aspects such as feminism, and so appears to the exhausted men not as an adversary but as a refuge, the reasonable side worth dealing with. Yet the relief it offers is not a concession but merely the absence of the feminist threat, presented as a gift; measured against feminist's aggression it looks generous, while measured on its own terms it advances the same essential program, its substance intact and only its framing changed. In opposition to the left's open dehumanization, the right affirms men, telling them they have a place, a role, a purpose, and then defining that purpose so that it serves the very ends feminists pursued by force. The harm is not removed but made appealing, reframed until men can receive it as dignity and carry it themselves, in their own name, as though it were their own; and the most effective bearers of this "good-cop" function are figures drawn from among the men themselves, so that domination arrives wearing the face of self-expression. Consent thus replaces compliance, and the operation completes the fragmentation with which it began: those who see only the left's hostility rally to the right in gratitude, those who mistrust the right are painted as enemies indistinguishable from left's targets, and the men pour their energy into choosing between two postures that were both authored by their ennemies.

Men therefore cease to appear as a single force and instead become a field of opposition against themselves: each faction defining itself less by what it builds than by what it rejects within the other.

In contrast, women operate with a comparatively higher degree of internal coordination. Their positions are more consolidated, their messaging more unified, and their strategic direction less diluted by internal division. This asymmetry of cohesion produces an imbalance in influence, not through superiority of intent, but through differences in organization.

It is therefore no surprise that no governing structure, no institutional order, and no formal authority appear to consistently prioritize men interests as a unified whole. Where one group presents itself in a fragmented form and another in a more coherent form, political recognition tends to follow coherence rather than quantity. Power does not respond equally to all signals; it organizes around what is concentrated, sustained, and legible.

Political recognition is not granted; it is extracted through cohesion. And where cohesion is absent, interests remain fragmented, translated through other existing categories of power rather than articulated in their own name.

Thus, men remain politically legible as individuals, but politically ineffective as a collective body: present everywhere, but acting nowhere as one force; while women, by contrast, are able to convert internal cohesion into external presence.

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u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago
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I wonder why men's life expectancy is shorter than women's...

- Life expectancy
- Heart disease
- Tuberculosis
- Lung cancer
- Alcohol
- Suicide
- Drugs

In all of these issues, men are disproportionately more affected.

And not only are we ignored, but our own tax money is maliciously diverted by women to fund their own healthcare.

Men are, without a doubt, the oppressed gender. And women are their oppressors.

For more, follow me here: https://x.com/fuckfeminism_03

Our Discord: https://discord.com/invite/fjaTaJBGjW

u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago

Polygamy is Pointless and Self Destructive

This video addresses the common talking point of many male influencers, which is that polygamy is natural for men and beneficial to them. This video aims at debunking such belief, or at the very least offering another perspective to the topic.

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u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago
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Survivor Banned from Feminist Sub for Seeking After His Assault

Let me be clear of this first: No one is going to scour for this post to brigade it. Thus, I have blacked out all identifying information such as usernames (except for my own), and even the subreddit it was posted in. I have posted these images here for reference since I will go into a deep analysis about what I have observed then conclude about my observations. If you do stumble across this post — great. Support the survivor posting this; do not brigade the comments, attacking the commenter featured in the second photo. They may be wrong, as exemplified by the amount of downvotes they have, but that is no excuse to attack anyone. A respectful disagreement and debate is enough.

Content Summary

In a sub dedicated to male survivors, I stumbled upon this post. I will try as hard as possible to start off with an objective overview before going off with my personal analysis. Reading everything in the pictures can help with even more context and possibly help you point out something I may have missed. In brief, this survivor tried posting about his experience after noticing a gal in another sub receiving positive support on the posts about her experiences. This sub was apparently a feminist sub, and so his post was removed and he ended up permanently banned. He understands the ban, though he still feels its sting. At the time, he was lonely and depressed; he desperately needed support. Down in the comment section, I saw a comment that explained potential reasons for the ban. They said that posting in the sub was unwelcome and inappropriate, and could “make women feel scared, threatened, or unsafe.” They told OP that a man posting in a women’s space could feel like a violation. As of now, that commenter has about eight downvotes, probably being the only downvoted comment in that whole comment section. Though other users do not agree with the commenter, OP agreed with them and acknowledged he knows it was nothing personal though it really stung at the moment since he was still feeling hard emotions prior to, and at, time of the ban. Outside of this thread, other commenters note that the ban doesn’t define OP’s self-worth or experience, and one even directed him to another safe space for survivors like him. I also left a comment that suggested this space, telling him that this space and I are always present to support him.

Analysis

The post’s title already hit some personal trigger on my egalitarian self when I first read it. Naturally, I read over the post a couple of times, only to be appalled at the way the moderators of that sub handled OP and his post. To make matters worse (for me), that comment explaining the ban was the first and only comment on the post when I saw the post the first time, and I felt like they were being a bit too ignorant about OP’s inner mental state with their comment. First of all, I question how hearing about two women’s predatory behaviour could somehow trigger a good woman. Just like how a “good man” shouldn’t be triggered at hearing about a few men’s predatory actions and focus on helping the survivor instead, we should hold women to that same standard until we decide the on day to shatter it to oblivion.

Now, I also hold some understanding behind the moderators’ decisions as well. I‘m sure all of us would be pretty weirded out and stuck on what to do if a woman randomly posted her experiences in this community. However, I know that neither removing her post nor blocking her are appropriate ways to handle the situation, so long as she stays genuine and is not putting men down in any way. Better alternatives are to be discussed in the comments. I’d like to hear for each of you what you would personally do if a woman posted her experiences on this community. Should she be gently redirected to a different sub? Should we just freely give our support without the redirection? Also take into consideration: it’s more obvious that this sub is centred around male advocacy, anyway. It’s literally called LeftWingMaleAdvocates. The name gets the purpose across well, so maybe the real lesson here is to make it obvious what your community is for so the intended audience is drawn in and the unattended audience isn’t even interested to check anything out.

Regarding it was a feminist sub, I fail to put two and two together that he was banned just because he was a guy in a “women’s space” when feminism is “for everyone.” If feminism really is for everyone, I’d assume more guys would be open to share their own experiences in those very equal spaces. I’ve heard one too many times that feminism is equality, and it’s just helping women achieve equality to men. If we are uplifting women to men’s status, shouldn’t we only be lifting up women and just leaving men alone at the least, instead of bringing men down below women to achieve said “equality”? This post isn’t the first horror story I’ve heard about men’s struggles with feminist beliefs against them. It certainly is one of the worse I’ve heard, but it’s only one grain of sand in a big old sand box I’ve had in the backyard of my brain for a while. I’m sure there’s a beach somewhere, though I do not wish to visit, as I’m already stressed about the sandbox. A “true feminist” would offer support to this struggling man; a true egalitarian should be ready to offer support to anyone regardless of gender.
Coming back to the post a few more times introduced me to new, more positive comments. I most especially loved that comment that reminded OP that a ban doesn’t define his self-worth or the validity of his experience. He does deserve a safe space for himself, to seek real support from fellow survivors. I also saw another comment from a survivor that gave his accolades to another safe space he’s had positive experiences with. As previously stated, the first comment I mentioned has been downvoted by a number of users and the positive, survivor-centred comments do good work overriding that one comment.

This is a free, formal discussion regarding any of the topics I’ve mentioned above. Again, I’d be curious to know how you’d react if a woman came on this male advocacy sub posting about her experiences. I’d also like to know if there were any important details I may have missed. Feedback on the objective summary and analysis is highly appreciated, as I feel like I still need work on my critical and logical thinking skills. Was the summary objective to a satisfactory degree? Was the analysis based more on observable fact or stirring emotion? I could ask an AI, of course, though I esteem human reasoning higher than any AI tool.

u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago

Feminism was NEVER about gender equality

This video perfectly debunks the myth that "feminism was good before" in the shortest way possible, using historical evidence (the White Feather campaign) to demonstrate that the women of today were no different than the women of before.

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u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago
▲ 119 r/MensRightsGlobal+1 crossposts

Woman on Twitter is complaining that men aren't fantasizing about "being a little boy getting raped by an adult woman"

u/Distant_Reality_42 — 2 months ago

MEN ARE VULNERABLE

So there was a post made from a pro-male sub complaining to Reddit's mod support about the racism and misandry being enabled on the platform. Reddit's mod support replied that misandry does not break any reddit rules because men as a group are not vulnerable.

This is just plainly wrong. Men are vulnerable and the data confirms this.

First off, let's define the criteria of vulnerability.

Criteria of vulnerability

  1. Economic Discrimination
  2. Health Inequality
  3. Workplace Challenges and Exploitation
  4. Violence and Discrimination
  5. Intersectionality of Race and Gender

1. ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION

# Feminists like to cite the "gender pay gap" myth repeatedly which has already been debunked several times.

What they never tell us is that there are several cities in US where young women out-earn young men.

Women aged between 22 and 29 in employment are now earning more on average per hour than men of the same age.

The Korn Ferry Gender Pay Index analysed more than 12.3 million employees in 14,284 companies in 53 countries. This study showed that men are discriminated against and women are favoured in the fast-growing markets where they found a 3.1% gap favouring women.

Google were accused of 'Extreme' Discrimination against women, regarding a 'Gender pay Gap' by the US labor department. 

Facing a lawsuit and being compelled to provide data, google decided to investigate the gender pay gap internally and they discovered that it was in fact, you guessed it, men who were being underpaid across the board.

"$9.7 million in compensation to 10,677 employees for 2018, with a disproportionate amount of that going to men."

Same thing happened with BBC. BBC men to get pay rises as review rejects gender discrimination claims.

# Along with that, Men make up the majority of the homeless.

# Poverty statistics show that women are in more poverty than men, but what they hide from us is that poverty hurts the boys the most.

# Employment discrimination as we all know leads to economic disparities.

One study on hiring discrimination found that in every cohort, women were preferred over men. Whether single, married, childless, or with children.

The fact that they found that women were preferred over men is buried inside of the body of the study.

You can read the full text of the study here:

Becker, S. O., Fernandes, A., & Weichselbaumer, D. (2019). Discrimination in hiring based on potential and realized fertility: Evidence from a large-scale field experiment. Labour Economics, 59, 139-152.

Another study on gender blind hiring performed in Australia found discrimination against men.

The research team fully expected to find far more female candidates shortlisted when sex was disguised. But, as the stunned team leader told the local media: "We found the opposite, that de-identifying candidates reduced the likelihood of women being selected for the shortlist."

And let's not forget:

# Women control or influence 85% of consumer spending (Source, Forbes 2019)

# Women control more than 60% of all personal wealth in the U.S. (Source: Federal Reserve, MassMutual Financial Group, BusinessWeek, Gallup)

# Approximately 40% of U.S. working women now out-earn their husbands.  (Source: U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics)

# In the US, breadwinners in 40% households are female. Yet only 3% of alimony payers are female.

2. HEALTH INEQUALITY

# The research was conducted against a general assumption that medical research was unfairly focused on men. The complaints were loud enough to inspire research into the topic where it was quickly found that far more interest and money was put into women's health research than men, including even in areas where men are known to be effected more.

Bartlett, E. E. (2001). Did medical research routinely exclude women? An examination of the evidence. Epidemiology, 12(5), 584-586.

https://journals.lww.com/epidem/Fulltext/2001/09000/Did_Medical_Research_Routinely_Exclude_Women__An.20.aspx

https://menarehuman.com/6195-2/

https://web.archive.org/web/20100430061624/https://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/96jun/cancer/kadar.htm

# It's a well known fact that men commit suicide more than women in every country in the world. But what is behind this rate? People argue that since women attempt suicide at higher rates than men, it proves that women are the ones in need of help not men. But men have a higher rate of suicidal intent than women. It seems that many women could be making a suicidal gesture rather than actually wanting to commit suicide.

Some also say that men choose more lethal methods, but this is also not indicative of men's suicide rate because even when men choose the same methods, they still die more than women.

Some say it is due to toxic masculinity, but even that has problems. First of all, if women were more oppressed than men, why would they commit suicide at a higher rate? Secondly, 91% of men who committed suicide did seek help before doing it

So, what is the reason? Well, suicide prevention programs work much better for girls than for boys.

This study shows that men are dropping out of therapy prematurely because therapy was created with women in mind.

# Now, everyone knows that women live longer than men in almost every country on Earth. But leave alone the fact that men are more likely to commit suicide, die at work (more on than later), die during a conflict (more on than later), drown, die from an injury, and die from child abuse, let's look at mens health. Men are more likely to die from cancer, heart attacks, and even coronavirus

Despite all this, women's health receives FOUR TIMES as much funding as men's health

# Men are more likely to abuse alcohol than women. Men have higher rate of hospitalization due to alcohol than women. Finally, Males are more than three times as likely to die by suicide than females, and more likely to have been drinking prior to suicide.

https://archive.ph/rOCiH

Alcohol abuse is also closely associated with major depression, anxiety, and bipolar.

https://www.americasrehabcampuses.com/blog/which-mental-disorder-is-most-commonly-comorbid-with-alcoholism/

This shows that abusing alcohol among men is more closely linked to mental health issues in men.

# Boys are not protected from genital mutilation, and are more likely to be undernourished, worldwide. 

3. WORKPLACE CHALLENGES AND EXPLOITATION

# The most dangerous, health-hazardous jobs are all male-dominated. 

# Men make up the majority of workplace fatalities and workplace injuries.

# Men are 10 times more likely to die due to their jobs compared to women,

# Men are 1.75 times more likely than women to work 41+ hour weeks, are 2.3 times more likely than women to work 60+ hour weeks, and also work estimately 85 more hours than women in a year.

# According to this study, men are much more unsatisfied with their jobs than women

# Male life expectancy is 5.3 years lower than female, yet men tend to retire later than women. (Several countries still have a lower retirement age for women)

# Even boys are more likely to be put in child labor than girls, and according to this study, the work they do is very dangerous and harmful.

# Women reap more in tax benefits than do men.

# In some countries, men are forced into gender-based conscription. Currently, about 60 countries have mandatory drafts for males but only 9 have mandatory drafts for women. In some countries, women serve for a shorter time, like in Israel, women service two years while men serve for 2.5 years.

In some cases, men and boys will be targeted in a military operation or massacre.

4. VIOLENCE AND DISCRIMINATION

# Men face longer prison sentences for the exact same crime. While it is true that men are more likely to commit crimes, it doesn't explain the gender disparity, which is alot longer than racial disparity, which means even an African American woman would get a shorter sentence than a white man.

Men are more likely to be stopped by the police, and even when women are stopped, they are are less likely to be arrested.

Men are discriminated against even when they are the victims, As criminals get harsher punishments for killing women than for killing men.

And overall, men are 90% of those in prison, 98% of death row inmates, and and 98.8% of those executed.

They are more likely to be shot to death by police, to be murdered.

Men are the majority of victims of public sphere violence.

# Men are also not protected from domestic violence, despite research showing that domestic violence directed at men is at least as, if not more, common than domestic violence directed at women.

Mostly all shelters are for women and domestic violence is seen as a woman's problem.

Given that men give more tax revenue to the governments than women do, it means that mostly men are paying for shelters that they themselves are not allowed to access.

There is a remarkably sad story of a male domestic violence survivor who tried to set up a shelter for men, but he ran out of funding, and committed suicide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Silverman

A 2005 study on domestic violence wrote their entire abstract in a way that implies that domestic violence is significantly worse against women than against men. But the actual body of their research reports the exact opposite of that. A fact that other researchers eventually discovered and wrote about.

[A] recent study found that men are more likely than women to suffer serious injuries in intimate partner relationships and that men are actually less likely than women to use violence in intimate relationships (Felson & Cares, 2005). Some factors are apparently inhibiting men, who are generally much more violent than women (outside intimate relationships), from using violence against their female partners. Results in the Felson and Cares (2005) study show that those men who do engage in violence against their spouse and those women who engage in violence against their family members are more likely than other offenders to do so with high frequency. It is surprising that this result was obtained in what was essentially presented to respondents as, “a study of violence against women” (Felson & Cares, 2005, p. 15).In fact, the authors argue that men actually inhibit violence in intimate relationships compared to their non-intimate levels.

...Interestingly, authors responding to findings that suggest a narrow or non-existent gender gap in partner abuse rates also allege that females are universally more vulnerable to abuse by men than men are to abuse by women. Importantly, this perspective has found little support in the data.

Carney, M., Buttell, F., & Dutton, D. (2007). Women who perpetrate intimate partner violence: A review of the literature with recommendations for treatment. Aggression and Violent Behavior, 12(1), 108-115.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Donald_Dutton/publication/222426549_Women_Who_Perpetrate_Intimate_Partner_Violence_A_Review_of_the_Literature_With_Recommendations_for_Treatment/links/5c465a1592851c22a386f74b/Women-Who-Perpetrate-Intimate-Partner-Violence-A-Review-of-the-Literature-With-Recommendations-for-Treatment.pdf

The very first large scale federal study on domestic violence in the US was carried out by researchers who expected to find higher rates of female victimization compared to male victimization. The results of that study showed that slightly more men than women were victims of domestic violence, including severe forms of violence.

Two of those researchers -- Murray Straus and Suzanne Steinmetz -- spent the rest of their careers researching this phenomen after discovering this. Steinmetz, in particular, was the first researcher to coin the "battered husband syndrome" back in 1977, a concept that would eventually be coopted by feminists during the 1980s and derided as a "myth" when applied to men.

Straus, M. A. (2010). Thirty years of denying the evidence on gender symmetry in partner violence: Implications for prevention and treatment. Partner Abuse, 1(3), 332-362.

http://dx.doi.org/10.1891/1946-6560.1.3.332

Related to this is the fact that Erin Pizzey discovered the same thing "on the ground" after opening the world's first domestic violence shelter for women in Britain.

All of the relevant parties here took this in stride and bravely went against the status quo. In some instances they even received death threats and bomb threats from feminists. All three are widely celebrated today by the MRM.

# Despite the fact that men are raped and sexually assaulted at alarmingly high rates (mostly by women, contrary to popular belief), they are not adequately protected. 

Rape is usually seen as a crime that only happens to women. Even religions rarely mention men as rape victims. Infact, Only 3% of organizations that acknowledge rape as a weapon of war help male victims.

William Collins states regarding female perpetrators:

There are more than a hundred times more men in prison for sexual offences than there are women in prison for sexual offences. But there is a gross mismatch between this ratio and the known high incidence of male sex offenders who have a background of being sexually abused by a woman themselves as children (perhaps about one-third to one-half of all such men in prison). So, given the 13,500 men in prison in the UK for sex offences, why are there only about 100 women? Where are the several thousand missing women who have sexually offended against male minors? (Not to mention the women offending against female minors).

Stemple, Flores and Meyer find the following in their 2017 study Sexual Victimization Perpetrated by Women: Federal Data Reveal Surprising Prevalence (direct link to an older version of the PDF, I hope it's not too outdated).

They quote (among studies supporting this result):

"Perpetrator self-reports are also revealing. A 2012 study using data from the U. S. Census Bureau's nationally representative National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC, 2001-02) found in a sample of 43,000 adults little difference in the sex of selfreported sexual perpetrators. Of those who affirmed that they had “ever force[d] someone to have sex … against their will,” 43.6% were female and 56.4% were male (Hoertel, Le Strat, Schuster, & Limosin, 2012)."

One 2008 literature review looked at five studies of female perpetrated sexual victimization within relationships. The review found that between 1.2% and 19.5% of adolescent girls and 2.1%–46.2% of college women self reported that they perpetrated some form of sexual victimization (Williams et al., 2008).

A 2013 survey of 1058 male and female youth ages 14–21 found that 9% self-reported perpetrating sexual victimization in their lifetime; 4% of youth reported perpetrating attempted or completed rape, which, again is defined to include any unwanted intercourse regardless of directionality (i.e., respondent reported that he/she “made someone have sex with me when I knew they did not want to”). While 98% of perpetrators who committed their first offence at age 15 or younger were male, by age 18–19 self-reports of perpetration differed little by sex: females comprised 48% of self-reported perpetrators of attempted or completed rape. Females were also more likely to perpetrate against victims older than themselves (Ybarra & Mitchell, 2013). Among respondents, victim blaming was common; perpetrator accountability was not. About half of all perpetrators of rape or attempted rape said that the victim was completely responsible for the incident. Fewer than 1% of perpetrators reported contact with law enforcement subsequent to the abuse (Ybarra & Mitchell, 2013).

A 2011 Dutch study also found no significant difference among male and female adolescent self-reports of sexual aggression (10% of males and 8% of females reported using sexual aggression) (Slotboom, Hendricks, & Verbruggen, 2011).

They also talk about the considerable obstacles for male victims of sexual abuse (read the article by Stemple et al. if you want to know more about that).

Next, let us look at the other side of the coin, that is self-reported rapes (by male and female victims) in the US. According to The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Surveys (NISVS) by the CDC, in the US women rape men at virtually the same rate as men rape women if you include "being made to penetrate" in the definition of rape and survey incidences in the last 12 months. Here are the victimization rates using the 12-month prevalence, first for females and then for males:

Note that around 70-80% of people who rape men are women (see e.g. NISVS 2010, page 24 and NISVS 2011, page 6). Also, although CDC has said that this data is from the lifetime figures, there is actually no reason to suspect that it would be less in the previous 12-month figures. Infact, in NISVS 2016/17, male victims of made to penetrate in last 12 months reported more (about 83%) female perps than in their lifetime (about 70%).

Also note that they exclude "made to penetrate" in the definition of rape, so you have to be wary of this when reading the documents.

Similar numbers are found in the EU, e.g. in Prevalence and Associated Factors of Sexual Victimization: Findings from a National Representative Sample of Belgian Adults Aged 16–69 (Schapansky et al., 2021) which finds that the 12-month-prevalence was 1.4% for men and 1.5% for women. Again, they use various tricks to downplay the prevalence of male victims of rape: while they actually include "made to penetrate" in the definition of rape, they do not consider attempted rape when it concerns men but do consider it when it concerns women. Additionally, they include various forms of penetration in the rape of females but conveniently overlook equivalent forms of sexual assault for males (such as stimulation of intercourse by hand). Thus, the number for men is likely even higher than the reported one. This post from r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates explores the problems with their approach in more detail.

You may also find this recently published summary paper On the Sexual Assault of Men (DiMarco et al., 2021) useful. Some of its claims are:

  • male rape happens about as often as female rape, and possibly exceeds it
  • 80% of those who rape men are women
  • the rape of men occurs with a frequency comparable to the rape of women the arrest rate of female rapists is extremely low
  • stereotypes such as "he became erect so he must have wanted it" have been debunked
  • male rape victims suffer the same emotional and psychological consequences as female rape victims, even suffering physical injuries at comparable rates

You may also note that Predictors of sexual coercion against women and men: a multilevel, multinational study of university students (Hines, 2007) found that as women gain more status, they are more likely to perpetrate sexual violence against men.

Why is the 12-month-prevalence preferable to the lifetime prevalence?

Has ‘lifetime prevalence’ reached the end of its life? An examination of the concept (Streiner et al., 2009) finds that the 12-month prevalence is more reliable than the lifetime prevalence.

Recall Bias can be a Threat to Retrospective and Prospective Research Designs (Hassan, 2005) finds that "[r]esearch tells us that 20% of critical details of a recognized event are irretrievable after one year from its occurrence and 50% are irretrievable after 5 years", again suggesting that the 12-month-prevalence is more accurate than the lifetime-prevalance.

Furthermore, one could argue that the lifetime prevalence gives a history lesson instead of teaching us about the current situation.

Some more info on this:

Madjlessi, J., & Loughnan, S. (2024). Male Sexual Victimization by Women: Incidence Rates, Mental Health, and Conformity to Gender Norms in a Sample of British Men. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 53, 263-274. 

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-023-02717-0

Smith, S. G. (2021). Sexual Violence Victimization of U.S. Males: Negative Health Conditions Associated with Rape and Being Made to Penetrate. NCBI. Retrieved July 6, 2024, from 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9156716/

Thomas, J. C., & Kopel, J. (2023, April 3). Male Victims of Sexual Assault: A Review of the Literature. NCBI. Retrieved July 6, 2024, from 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10135558/

Ybarra, M. L., & Mitchell, K. J. (2013). Prevalence Rates of Male and Female Sexual Violence Perpetrators in a National Sample of Adolescents. JAMA Pediatrics, 167(12), 1125-1134. 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/1748355

Stemple, L., & Meyer, I. H. (2014). The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions. Am J Public Health, 104(6), 19-26. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4062022/

Widanaralalage, K. B., Hine, B., & Murphy, A. (2022). Male Victims of Sexual Violence and Their Welfare in the Criminal Justice System. Men in Welfare. 

https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/portal/en/publications/male-victims-of-sexual-violence-and-their-welfare-in-the-criminal

Depraetere, J., Vandeviver, C., Beken, T. V., & Keygnaert, I. (2020). Big Boys Don’t Cry: A Critical Interpretive Synthesis of Male Sexual Victimization. Trauma, Violence, & Abuse, 21(5), 991-1010.

https://doi.org/10.1177/1524838018816979

Some more sources on sexual abuse of men and boys, part 1-5

# Boys are more likely to be physically abused than girls

Schools punish boys more often and more harshly than girls

Men and boys make up the majority of school dropouts.

Another study on educational discrimination expected to find discrimination against female students. They instead found exactly the opposite of this: that male students were discriminated against in every subject, including even in math and science.

Using data on test results in several subjects in the humanities and sciences, I found, contrary to expectations, that male students face discrimination in each subject.

Lavy, V. (2008). Do gender stereotypes reduce girls' or boys' human capital outcomes? Evidence from a natural experiment. Journal of public Economics, 92(10-11), 2083-2105.

https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/vlavy/lavy_j.public.e_10.2008_gender_steriotypes.pdf

Over then entire OECD countries globally, a large scale study showed that girls were given higher marks for IDENTICAL work to boys. OECD also showed that a boy receives 1/3 higher grade if the teacher does not know he is a boy. Interestingly this gender gap goes away when it is a male teacher doing the marking.

https://www.tes.com/news/teacher-stereotyping-means-higher-marks-girls-says-oecd

Another study found that boys in all racial categories are not being “commensurately graded by their teachers” in any subject “as their test scores would predict.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/eliminating-feminist-teacher-bias-erases-boys-falling-grades-study-finds

Boys 'being held back by women teachers' as gender stereotypes are reinforced in the classroom

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1307856/Boys-held-women-teachers-gender-stereotypes-reinforced-classroom.html

Christian Hoff Sommers explains how boys are being punished for normal behaviours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpYj0E-yb4

Do Schools discrimiante against boys: Dr. Jim Dueck, author, former Assistant Deputy Minister of Education for the province of Alberta, and former head of Accountability and Student Assessment, performed a revealing analysis on current practices in student assessment. The results were not only remarkable but very disturbing, exposing what might well be an institutional suppression of the performance of male students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloY4OJxBoQ

Related, despite a widely held view to the contrary, in a large scale national study, women are favoured 2:1 over IDENTICAL or even slightly more qualified men in STEM applicationss but gender BLIND helps men significantly, and the latter is now becoming less commonly applied as a result.

https://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360

# A study from the late 1980s on child custody discrimination expected to find discrimination against mothers, and not fathers (lol), but instead discovered that men were 6 times less likely to gain custody compared to identically placed women.

Not only did their publication attempt to use dishonest statistical shenanigans to hide this, they tried to burry the raw data to prevent other researchers from double checking their findings. Their study is still widely cited by other researchers as well as by random people on the Internet, because it is the only study that, on the surface, found discrimination against mothers. In one meta study it sticks out like a sore thumb in comparison to ~10 other studies that found the exact opposite.

You can read that meta study here, and a list of sources on page 974 in the footnotes:

"Beyond Economic Fatherhood: Encouraging Divorced Fathers to Parent".

https://web.archive.org/web/20110810022011/https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/lawreview/articles/volume153/issue3/Maldonado153U.Pa.L.Rev.921(2005).pdf

The story of how one researcher discovered that the study was fraudulent, and how he came into possession of the raw data that they tried to bury, can be found here:

Rosenthal, M. B. (1995). Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias Committee of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Breaking The Science.

http://www.breakingthescience.org/SJC_GBC_analysis_intro.php

5. INTERSECTIONALITY OF RACE AND GENDER

Some data reveals that Blacks are more likely to be accused of rape than other male students.

https://reason.com/2017/09/14/we-need-to-talk-about-black-students-bei/

A couple more articles mention it :

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-question-of-race-in-campus-sexual-assault-cases/539361/

Some more info on black men facing more discrimination than black women can be found here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/17v764g/many_studies_show_black_men_face_more/

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