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I am done with the infantilization of Stassi Schroeder. She is a racist, vile, lady who never gave a fuck about her actions (even if they could have almost killed someone).

I did not like how she said that VPR protected the men on HOS. While this is true, the creator talks about how LVP protected Stassi just as much. Stassi was protected just as much as the men of VPR were. LVP loves defending toxic, abusive, racist assholes. Did we forget how Brandi treated Joyce from s4 of RHOBH and how LVP was quiet as a mouse.

I am curious if anyone is going to her richmond show.

I was listening to Scheana‘s new podcast and revealed that Janet (along with Lala) was the other friend to reveal Brocks affair to Brittany. No wonder why Scheana didn’t sign on s3 of the valley lmaoo—especially if I felt connected to my close friends to tell them about an affair I have internalized for years.

Personal feelings aside, I feel for Scheana during this time. I cannot imagine losing a pet you have had for about 20 years, and it's been with you during all your life challenges (miscarriage/divorce/moving). From what I have listened to in interviews/her podcast, she really went through a lot with Penny Lane. (#itsallhappening origin story) I am sending love to her and her family, during this time.

PS: if you came here to snark and be malicious towards her, imagine if this was you and you lost your pet that has been in your life for as long as a couple decades.

For me--it would Stassi and Scheana. With a close second being kyle/lvp

i dont know why but I found that so funny how casually Kristina Kelly was mentioning it. Looks like scheana wasnt the only person to be annoying with a guy

I found this to be relatively interesting. I was also fascinated that Scheana gets mentioned because of course. They state that Scheana's biggest qualm is she self-produces her scenes, and does not say it to their face.

However Stassi and Tay (by proxy) feel a bit of sympathy for Scheana that she always gets brought up and is dragged through the mud. Even praised her as a reality star/hard worker. I am invested if Lala will be brought up in the slightest, they don't mention her at all.

I thought this was an interesting snippet of stassi just speaking piece about scheana. I was moreso shocked that she felt bad for Scheana??

I am curious how Stassi will navigate Taylor/Katie's beef. Wonder if people will call her a flip flopper.

Can someone help me brainstorm what to wear for the concert--I have been stressing, and insta has given me decent ideas but I feel like I cannot execute it well

What do you guys think?

edit: title says do you think lala and janet would bring up concerns about dr. dre being abusive?

This creator brings up an amazing point about Jasmine and how her multiple identities (Blackness/Queerness/Womanhood) exist in this majority all white cast.

For starters, in VPR the only people of color were Scheana (her being half-Mexican AND Brown-skinned/indigenous is crucial for her identity struggle) and Faith (a Black woman) were treated so poorly by SOME of the cast of VPR and even some of the producers/bosses. Stassi/Kristen literally called the cops on a Faith, and LVP did nothing to contain the situation. Hell she is saying that Stassi's firing was an overreaction. Lala also pulled a knife on Faith, which she faced no repercussions. We also saw how Stassi and Kristina Kelly made ignorant remarks about Scheana's first wedding dress (skanky girls quince). As well as an editor purposefully making her look bad--I don't recall her doing that to any of the White cast mates..... Scheana also not given any grace, but Lala/Stassi are able to get 2nd chances despite their racist actions/words. Scheana/Faith aren't saints but the way they have been treated is basically racism/ignorance by a majority White cast and it sickens .

Fast forward to the valley, we have Jasmine (the first Black WOMAN full-time cast member on the Valley). I am not erasing the other marginalized identities the other castmates hold, but I want to emphasize Jasmine. Since the way she is being treated by the cast; especially Lala/Michelle/Danny/Nia is very triggering.

I can't stand how Michelle and Lala have done nothing but gaslight her, give her a lot of shit, and say that she is attacking them/jumping (when she was standing up for herself). She has been onto Michelle, since the racist/republican stuff unfolded in season one and I think the rumor in s1 was true given how Michelle treats Jasmine based on her actions towards Jasmine. Regarding Lala, Jasmine would not be friends with a white woman who constantly parades Blackness like a costume. Danny literally assaulted Jasmine and Melissa--and Danny/Nia are trying to cross correct and not take responsibility on how they hurt Jasmine. Jasmine has entered a cast that has historically treated Black woman worse than any other race. She is indirectly exposing that some of the cast mates are uncomfortable with her presence. Overall how all her marginalized identities come together and she exists explains how she acts around most of the cast on the Valley as the aforementioned people have not made the show a safe space for her.

This clip looks like it's gonna be interesting. Katie is bringing the truth, and I wonder why Stassi ghosted her. My hypothesis was Stassi was actually defending Lala back in s11.

I loved reading this interview that Jasmine did--it shed light on her personal life, talking about the wedding, etc. However, I did think it was interesting when she called ABC conservative and I cannot agree more. And, what do you know--Stassi is joining that family, interesting.

I decided to revisit s1, and honestly Jasmine is not that bad. She seems to be more sensible than the rest of the cast--which is filled with racists/drunks/homophobes. Especially currently, she is basically saying that why do we give Lala grace but not Jasmine/Melissa when they were assaulted. It sucks that as a Black woman she feels like she cannot express herself in the ways that the others do since she is aware of being villainized if she did certain things. I have been the only Black person in spaces like Jasmine's and it was hard, since people did not care what I had to say and dismissed my trauma/feelings. Jasmine being silenced reminds me of Black people who want to speak their truth, but cannot because of harassment from White VPR/Valley Fans. Especially, Danny/Nia/Michelle/Lala have also done some unspeakable and nasty things to her. Michelle and Lala (saying she is attacking them, jumping, misconstruing her words, queerbaiting). At the y2k party, she did not say that Lala was less genuine than Jesse. She said if this show was not filming or outside of their friend group--Jasmine would not be friends with Lala. I wish Jasmine would say the real reason she does not fuck with Lala/Michelle, it's possibly due to the fact that those have done nothing but act homophobic and racist. Danny literally assaulted Jasmine and Melissa; and she is practically around her abuser. Nia keeps on sweeping Danny's truth under the rug, which puts Jasmine and Melissa at harms way.

Jasmine is not a fucking saint, but she should really get her 10s for dealing with a bunch of foolish/homophobic/racist cast mates. She really deserves more love and appreciation from the fanbase. People getting mad that she invited Danny/Nia to her wedding, that is her decision. She has every right to bring the assault up, and if she/Melissa decides to forgive them; it is what it is.

Before I say this, Scheana Shay is a not a fucking saint. But--it is telling that a Black woman speaks highly of her. Scheana has struck me as someone who is vapid and outrageous, but the hate she gets is very irritating and people who have done worse get less hate.

(see stassi/kristen and how people forget they literally could have gotten a Faith, a Black woman killed, as well as said racist statements about Black People/comments about sexual assault--Stassi calling it a Male witch hunt/Kristen invalidating Janet's SA.) Lala literally pulled a knife on Faith who she called her best friend and would leave things in her apartment to see if Faith would steal it. Michelle from the Valley's type of anti-Blackness scares me. Remember she was accused with the racist/republican stuff in s1, and even put her hands on Jasmine unprompted. As of recent, she has saying Jasmine is jumping/attacking her when Jasmine is just trying to stand up for herself. Michelle needs to get checked on her anti-Blackness, because this rumor in s1 is proving to be true. No wonder why Jasmine does not want anything to do with them. This environment is not safe for her, with being around her assaulters and abusers (danny/nia/michelle/lala). Overall, what I am trying to say is having a Black woman speak highly of you is a great metric of character since they are the most discarded and disrespected by society. Onto top of that, she is also Queer which having multiple marginalizations creates a unique experience. And bring on Scheana for the Valley when she is ready, Despite all her faults, I feel like she has always had a diverse circle of friends (racially/sexuality/etc.) Unlike, Stassi/Lala specifically who surrounds herself with mainly White people when she also has had multiple racial indiscretions.

TW: SA

For those who don't like Sheshu and are frustrated with her being male-centered. I would advise you to watch/listen to this podcast episode. She talks about being sexually assaulted, and I thought this was super brave of her to do so. timestamp 55:05

I recommend watching this interview, I find her takes on Lala and Michelle fascinating to me. She also speaks highly of Sheshu, and tbh I respect it saying she fits in better than Lala and you'd have to be stupid to say she is lying. I think this interview discloses to me it is important to trust Black woman's intuition, and who they associate with. Why are Lala and Michelle confused on why Jasmine would not want to befriend them? Let's do a history lesson for you all.

If I recall Lala and Michelle have projected the most vile intense of anti-Blackness/homophobia onto Jasmine and other Black woman a la Faith. Michelle back in season 1 had the racist/republican comment, and how she has spewed microagressions towards her as of recent (saying bs like Jasmine is attacking her). Also she has been historically advocating for the " don't say gay" legisation. As well as her and Lala queerbaiting together--them saying some shit like I can go brad or angelina.

Lala, has been anti-Black from day fucking one. From having a blaccent, when she is a rich white girl from Utah to pulling a knife to Faith (a Black woman) is so disgusting. And the aforementioned queer baiting her and Michelle did.

Overall, I love Jasmine and I wish she can tell Lala and Michelle the real reason she does not like them. However, I understand her as a Black person that has been in multiple all white spaces. We say our truth, and nobody is there to believe us.

Please listen to this podcast, they are recapping VPR from s1 e1 and just put an episode out on s3 e1.

I love how they love Sheshu, there are not a lot of people that do but its comforting that she has some fans.