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Icky Vicki’s snore button from ultimate girls trip would have came in handy last night 💩😴😴 how is this show still on?! An entire episode on how Heather is over Gina and Emily’s friendship and them ignored at Heather for speaking up?! Are you serious ?! Let’s not forget Icky Vicki looking like Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie dressed in drag 💩🙈

My mom called ME “pathetic” after I opened up to her, and I’m really struggling with it.

I’m an adult daughter who recently decided to be vulnerable with my mom and tell her how I was feeling. I wasn't attacking her. I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was simply sharing something with my mother because I wanted to feel heard by her as her daughter.

I put a lot of thought into what I wrote because I was genuinely trying to communicate from my heart.

Her response was to call ME “pathetic.”

Not what I said. Not the situation. Me.

And honestly, that hurt in a way that is difficult to explain.

I could understand my mother disagreeing with me. I could understand her being angry, defensive, or even telling me that she didn't know how to respond. But being called pathetic by your own mother after you've made yourself emotionally vulnerable is a completely different kind of pain.

It made me feel like I had done something shameful simply by wanting to express my feelings to my own mother.

I ultimately didn't argue with her or send something nasty back. I deleted the conversation because I knew continuing would only hurt me more. I didn't want to read anything else she had to say after that.

I've been trying to remind myself that her calling me pathetic doesn't actually make me pathetic. But when those words come from your mother, they can get inside your head in a way that is really hard to shake.

I'm posting here because I know there are other adult children who understand complicated relationships with their parents.

Has anyone else experienced a parent responding to vulnerability by attacking YOU personally?

How did you stop their words from becoming the way you saw yourself?

My mom called ME “pathetic” after I opened up to her, and I’m really struggling with it.

I’m an adult daughter who recently decided to be vulnerable with my mom and tell her how I was feeling. I wasn't attacking her. I wasn't trying to start a fight. I was simply sharing something with my mother because I wanted to feel heard by her as her daughter.

I put a lot of thought into what I wrote because I was genuinely trying to communicate from my heart.

Her response was to call ME “pathetic.”

Not what I said. Not the situation. Me.

And honestly, that hurt in a way that is difficult to explain.

I could understand my mother disagreeing with me. I could understand her being angry, defensive, or even telling me that she didn't know how to respond. But being called pathetic by your own mother after you've made yourself emotionally vulnerable is a completely different kind of pain.

It made me feel like I had done something shameful simply by wanting to express my feelings to my own mother.

I ultimately didn't argue with her or send something nasty back. I deleted the conversation because I knew continuing would only hurt me more. I didn't want to read anything else she had to say after that.

I've been trying to remind myself that her calling me pathetic doesn't actually make me pathetic. But when those words come from your mother, they can get inside your head in a way that is really hard to shake.

I'm posting here because I know there are other adult children who understand complicated relationships with their parents.

Has anyone else experienced a parent responding to vulnerability by attacking YOU personally?

How did you stop their words from becoming the way you saw yourself?

Anyone else notice Vikki going from being an overt narcissist to a covert narcissist on the ultimate girls trip??!

She’s a bully on OC expecting everyone to bow down to “Queen Victoria” Emily said l— where the F that came from I have no idea —

But being around other legendary housewives from the other franchises on the ultimate girls trip, however, has left her being a covert narcissist.

Keep in mind, a narcissist needs to collect attention to our bad. On the OC, she demands it. She’s the bully.

She went into the trip, totally expecting to be that version of herself. That bully who everybody just worships down to and she could treat them, however that if she wants anybody else noticed that too?
However, she totally felt the energy shift as the other woman demanded just as much attention!

Luann. Like her or not.
That woman owns the room, no matter where she’s at! Her confidence level is through the roof! If she taught a course, on how to have confidence as a woman, I would be totally in as I have no idea how this woman has so much confidence but she does and it’s very admirable to watch!!

“Queen Victoria” realized right off the bat she is not a queen around these women and shifted instead to a covert narcissist to collect pity from them.

The Slade Smiley thing totally represents that💯
Vicki has always been against anything 🔮spiritual, so I still have no idea what the intent was of Slade and Gretchen‘s photos to this day!
But that right there was my Prime example of her trying to collect pity then from these women! Shifting the energy from Queen Victoria to feel sorry for me. “I’m a victim” Vicki.

My last example I’m posting is the watch what happens lie with Andy Sunday night. All of the women were all engaged with each other all laughing together all having a good time all able to poke fun at themselves Lisa Barlow, for example laughing at herself about the flying coaxh situation.
They were all good sports as they knew it was all in fun!
Andy gets to Vikki’s clip of rock climbing and her face said it all! She couldn’t all poke out of herself. She was so angry and uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable for us as the audience you watch I felt. But she wasn’t having it.
Prior to that, she was so annoyed when Andy asked Luanne about her singing, she made it evident to everyone that she didn’t like Luanne singing for sure!!

You could just tell that whole live show she was not in her element! It was not the bully from OC. We typically see as these women outshine her. If she was not having it at all it was pouty face. I am a victim Debbie downer Vicki

“Debbie Downer” Vicki is the Covert Narc Side of her💯

Anyone else notice Vikki going from being an overt narcissist to a covert narcissist on the ultimate girls trip??!

She’s a bully on OC expecting everyone to bow down to “Queen Victoria” Emily said l— where the F that came from I have no idea —

But being around other legendary housewives from the other franchises on the ultimate girls trip, however, has left her being a covert narcissist.

Keep in mind, a narcissist needs to collect attention to our bad. On the OC, she demands it. She’s the bully.

She went into the trip, totally expecting to be that version of herself. That bully who everybody just worships down to and she could treat them, however that if she wants anybody else noticed that too?
However, she totally felt the energy shift as the other woman demanded just as much attention!

Luann. Like her or not.
That woman owns the room, no matter where she’s at! Her confidence level is through the roof! If she taught a course, on how to have confidence as a woman, I would be totally in as I have no idea how this woman has so much confidence but she does and it’s very admirable to watch!!

“Queen Victoria” realized right off the bat she is not a queen around these women and shifted instead to a covert narcissist to collect pity from them.

The Slade Smiley thing totally represents that💯
Vicki has always been against anything 🔮spiritual, so I still have no idea what the intent was of Slade and Gretchen‘s photos to this day!
But that right there was my Prime example of her trying to collect pity then from these women! Shifting the energy from Queen Victoria to feel sorry for me. “I’m a victim” Vicki.

My last example I’m posting is the watch what happens lie with Andy Sunday night. All of the women were all engaged with each other all laughing together all having a good time all able to poke fun at themselves Lisa Barlow, for example laughing at herself about the flying coaxh situation.
They were all good sports as they knew it was all in fun!
Andy gets to Vikki’s clip of rock climbing and her face said it all! She couldn’t all poke out of herself. She was so angry and uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable for us as the audience you watch I felt. But she wasn’t having it.
Prior to that, she was so annoyed when Andy asked Luanne about her singing, she made it evident to everyone that she didn’t like Luanne singing for sure!!

You could just tell that whole live show she was not in her element! It was not the bully from OC. We typically see as these women outshine her. If she was not having it at all it was pouty face. I am a victim Debbie downer Vicki

“Debbie Downer” Vicki is the Covert Narc Side of her💯

Anyone else notice Vikki going from being an overt narcissist on the OC to a covert narcissist on the ultimate girls trip??!

She’s a bully on OC expecting everyone to bow down to “Queen Victoria” Emily said l— where the F that came from I have no idea —

But being around other legendary housewives from the other franchises on the ultimate girls trip, however, has left her being a covert narcissist.

Keep in mind, a narcissist needs to collect attention to our bad. On the OC, she demands it. She’s the bully.

She went into the trip, totally expecting to be that version of herself. That bully who everybody just worships down to and she could treat them, however that if she wants anybody else noticed that too?
However, she totally felt the energy shift as the other woman demanded just as much attention!

Luann. Like her or not.
That woman owns the room, no matter where she’s at! Her confidence level is through the roof! If she taught a course, on how to have confidence as a woman, I would be totally in as I have no idea how this woman has so much confidence but she does and it’s very admirable to watch!!

“Queen Victoria” realized right off the bat she is not a queen around these women and shifted instead to a covert narcissist to collect pity from them.

The Slade Smiley thing totally represents that💯
Vicki has always been against anything 🔮spiritual, so I still have no idea what the intent was of Slade and Gretchen‘s photos to this day!
But that right there was my Prime example of her trying to collect pity then from these women! Shifting the energy from Queen Victoria to feel sorry for me. “I’m a victim” Vicki.

My last example I’m posting is the watch what happens lie with Andy Sunday night. All of the women were all engaged with each other all laughing together all having a good time all able to poke fun at themselves Lisa Barlow, for example laughing at herself about the flying coaxh situation.
They were all good sports as they knew it was all in fun!
Andy gets to Vikki’s clip of rock climbing and her face said it all! She couldn’t all poke out of herself. She was so angry and uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable for us as the audience you watch I felt. But she wasn’t having it.
Prior to that, she was so annoyed when Andy asked Luanne about her singing, she made it evident to everyone that she didn’t like Luanne singing for sure!!

You could just tell that whole live show she was not in her element! It was not the bully from OC. We typically see as these women outshine her. If she was not having it at all it was pouty face. I am a victim Debbie downer Vicki

“Debbie Downer” Vicki is the Covert Narc Side of her💯

Edit
I am talking about the Vicki on Ultimate Girls Trip around the OTHER legendary housewives!
The one who is trying to collect PITY and paint herself as a VICTIM about Slade 15 yrs ago!
She’s very Overt around OC cast— Covert GIRLS TRIP

Anyone else noticed this? A covert narcissist needs people to feel sorry for them. I feel like around all these other women who are superior in their franchises, her insecurities leaked out like crazy where instead of like on the OC where she needs everybody to worship her, she needed everybody to feel sorry for her!!
Her treating Teresa as if she was a new girl on the OC was so disturbing to me!
Teresa absolutely pops up on ChatGPT as one of the legendary housewives, so the way Vicki was treating her from early on was disgusting to me!
Any shot she could take at her she did!

I still have no idea what her intentions was with the Slide smiley situation!? Does anybody else!? I thought the unwritten house wife rule was if one of the women isn’t around on the show, you do not talk about them and the thing that’s absolutely off-limits is their family! Vicki took a whack at both of those! It’s disturbing that all last year when the OC was new, she acted like she and Gretchen were close just so she goes and makes her television debut back to bravo all about Gretchen‘s husband! And why!? To get these other legendary women to feel sorry for her a.k.a. being a covert narcissist!!

She is so detached from everyone else that it shown on WWHL with Andy. All five of the other women were laughing together. Engaged. And she was off to the far left waiting for it to be over!
When it came to her time about ironic funny moments, she wanted nothing to do with it!!
And prior to that when Andy asked Luann about her singing, her body language was SO rude and disrespectful towards Luann!!

Ultimate Girls Trip Season 2, Dorinda was onto something: the OC women live in their own bubble where outside the franchise; they don’t at all get along with the other women as the rest of them don’t normalize the screaming, the fighting, the talking behind your “friends” backs. kudos to Giselle for bringing that up to Tamra so early on!!

We don’t know the exact reason yet for how TAMRAT and Shannon weren’t invited back to the finale at Blue Stone Manor, but I’m going to say there’s more to it then the Quiet Woman. Dorinda prob got word what happened and already was disrespected in her home by TAMRAT and Vicki before and prob told directors she didn’t want to be again is my guess!

I’m hoping with the other women making it evident the OC women don’t get along with them that Andy finally retires them after this season. It’s time!!
Sorry, Debbie Downer. But you’re rude and fact you think you’re funny with your snoring button when you were originally fired for your rude behavior involving DOING THAT TO PEOPLE…
You’re a rude, covert narcissistic boomer that needs to stay off our screens period.

EDIT:
I AM REFERRING TO THE VICKI AROUND THE OTHER LEGENDARY HOUSEWIVES ON GIRLS TRIP. Not the one COMFORTABLE on the OC being the BULLY

Anyone else noticed this? A covert narcissist needs people to feel sorry for them. I feel like around all these other women who are superior in their franchises, her insecurities leaked out like crazy where instead of like on the OC where she needs everybody to worship her, she needed everybody to feel sorry for her!!
Her treating Teresa as if she was a new girl on the OC was so disturbing to me!
Teresa absolutely pops up on ChatGPT as one of the legendary housewives, so the way Vicki was treating her from early on was disgusting to me!
Any shot she could take at her she did!

I still have no idea what her intentions was with the Slide smiley situation!? Does anybody else!? I thought the unwritten house wife rule was if one of the women isn’t around on the show, you do not talk about them and the thing that’s absolutely off-limits is their family! Vicki took a whack at both of those! It’s disturbing that all last year when the OC was new, she acted like she and Gretchen were close just so she goes and makes her television debut back to bravo all about Gretchen‘s husband! And why!? To get these other legendary women to feel sorry for her a.k.a. being a covert narcissist!!

She is so detached from everyone else that it shown on WWHL with Andy. All five of the other women were laughing together. Engaged. And she was off to the far left waiting for it to be over!
When it came to her time about ironic funny moments, she wanted nothing to do with it!!
And prior to that when Andy asked Luann about her singing, her body language was SO rude and disrespectful towards Luann!!

Ultimate Girls Trip Season 2, Dorinda was onto something: the OC women live in their own bubble where outside the franchise; they don’t at all get along with the other women as the rest of them don’t normalize the screaming, the fighting, the talking behind your “friends” backs. kudos to Giselle for bringing that up to Tamra so early on!!

We don’t know the exact reason yet for how TAMRAT and Shannon weren’t invited back to the finale at Blue Stone Manor, but I’m going to say there’s more to it then the Quiet Woman. Dorinda prob got word what happened and already was disrespected in her home by TAMRAT and Vicki before and prob told directors she didn’t want to be again is my guess!

I’m hoping with the other women making it evident the OC women don’t get along with them that Andy finally retires them after this season. It’s time!!
Sorry, Debbie Downer. But you’re rude and fact you think you’re funny with your snoring button when you were originally fired for your rude behavior involving DOING THAT TO PEOPLE…
You’re a rude, covert narcissistic boomer that needs to stay off our screens period.