I've been kicked off of debate a vegan

Believe it or not this guy is the moderator of the platform and he claims on arguing in bad faith, despite all I'm doing is asking questions about consistency.

If you want my advice don't go to this guy's platform, he's biased and he deletes people who don't agree with his point of view.

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 2 months ago
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Hey guys I came across one of the worst arguments in favor of veganism. Check this out and tell me what you guys think.

>Does ask yourself has literally used to name the trade argument in order to claim that non vegans are hypocritical because they can't name a trait that humans have and all other animals don't.

He is literally said a bunch of his videos back retarded people don't know any better and are not civilized and therefore behave like animals or at least that's what he's implying.

I can't follow this at all. I don't know who you are talking about or what your point is here.

>Also if you think that consideration for moral framework should be extended to anyone capable of suffering, so does that mean that animal should be held accountable for killing other animals?

Again, the "name the trait" argument is about moral patients, not about moral agents. If you believe that suffering is bad and animals can suffer, you need to have some additional trait that justifies harming non-human animals but does not justify harming humans.

The reason non-human animals don't need to be held accountable for killing other non-human animals is because they are not moral agents. They don't need to behave morally. Humans should.

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 2 months ago

I found a pathetic argument about the name the trade argument, the guy disabled the comments on this so I can't reply to him directly but I'm going to put it here and tell you what I have to say about it.

Refuting the most common refutation of Name The Trait (that I hear).

A: *Humanity* is the morally relevant trait that makes it okay for humans to discriminate against other species.

B: Do you grant that the use of scenarios that are unlikely ever to happen, such as the trolley-problem, is an acceptable form of philosophizing on morality?

A: Of course.

B: If we encounter an alien race as intelligent as our own, will it be morally okay to treat them as we do farmed animals, since they don't share our humanity?

If A says no, it has to be on the grounds that the aliens are conscious, intelligent beings just like us, at which point the existence of brain-dead or severely cognitively impaired humans immediately makes their position untenable.

If A says yes, they're lying. We'd essentially be re-creating 19th-century slavery in Space, and most people would not be okay with that. Just like most people would not be okay with farming animals for their flesh and excretions if sufficiently enlightened.

Unfortunately, most of the time I argue with people, the matter boils down to "Animal products are healthier for me/us than going without", whereon the scientific consensus is powerless.

If only it were as simple as saying "Harming animals is bad." everyone agrees on that until you mention that murder is a form of harm.

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 2 months ago

One of my favorite gags

Mr. Humphries: Mr. Lucas, why has Little Boy Blue got a plastic mac on?

Mr. Lucas: Because Little Boy Blue's tights are too tight. And his smock is too short. In fact, Little Boy Blue is seriously contemplating on handing in his horn.

Mr. Humphries: I shall be the judge of that.

Let me have a look.

(Mr. Lucas flashes Mr. Humphries)

Mr. Humphries: You've done that before, haven't you?

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 3 months ago

The double standard between male and female pedophiles

I have one more thing I want to say before I leave.

There's obviously a double standard between men and women who both molest children and teenagers.

We have a ton of horny simps online who defend the women who do this and justify it with "boys and girls are different, many women are biologically different"

Maybe I'm a straw Manning them but it sounds to me like they're saying that men and women should not have the same rights and same obligations.

Does that mean these guys are against women voting?

After all men and women are different therefore they should have different staring applied to them, right?

Also they justify it with "the teenage boys want it"

So what, there are plenty of teenage boys who want to buy alcohol and cigarettes. We don't allow him to do that.

We don't allow him to vote either and they're not allowed to join the army until they are 18.

Also they are ignoring the psychology of someone who is on their age.

Of course they want it because they think they're just getting an orgasm and that's going to be the end of it.

That's not always the case, a lot of time these boys could be demand to pay child support to these women.

Or supposing the teacher has a jealous boyfriend or husband who attacks the boy.

Look at the case of Sean Powell, he had an affair with his teacher and her husband ended up murdering him.

Or the murder of Greg smart, Pamela Smart seduced Billy Flynn one of her students and she eventually used that power over him to manipulate him into murdering her husband.

That alone should show everyone the power that adults have or children and why we shouldn't allow things like this.

Even when the student is 18 there's still a law that says that it can't be a teacher because they're in a position of authority.

What burns me up about this that nobody looks at the long-term use of things like this. The long-term damage it can have on some kids.

I think the case of Ricky Rodriguez is a good place to start.

For those of you who don't know, Ricky Rodriguez was part of the infamous sex cult, children of God. He was molested constantly in that cult. He eventually got away but it still did a lot of damage to him psychologically.

Eventually he invited one of the women over from the cult, she was one of the people who molested him and he stabbed her over and over again.

After that he killed himself.

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 3 months ago

I have my own controversial opinion to talk about about the series of Ranma, or more particularly the character of Akane

Hello guys I'm new here so feel free to comment and tell me what you think about the situation.

There's a blog written by a fanboy of the Akane Tendo character and he has a complete meltdown where people who don't like the character or call out some of the things the character does.

The block is about 12 or 13 years old but I just read it and I like to comment on it.

This guy apparently had disabled comments on the blog itself so I cannot leave any of the things I want to say on it.

I thought I'd post them here.

This guy refers to people who disagree with him as "Fangirl"

First of all, Fangirl? What are you 12 years old? What sane adult cares about being misgendered? Also it would do I detect a little bit of misogyny there? Implying that being a girl is somehow worse than being a boy?

Second this guy says "the series was not made for you"

I have quite a few things I want to say about this one.

One you are not the only fan just because you don't point out flaws in one character to say that's not for you is extremely pretentious thing to say.

Maybe you guys don't remember this but about 15 years ago there was a YouTube user called Akothole resident who did a very similar video about the Sonic franchise.

This guy is doing the exact same thing in this blog that he got in trouble for, acting as if he speaks for the entire community and treating his opinions like facts.

No dude, just in case you are out there some place reading this I have to tell you, you're not speaking for anybody but yourself.

I myself have mixed feelings about the cast of Ranma, a lot of them are jackasses but that helps add to the charm of the story. I enjoy the story itself and I like the mythology that it has.

I think it has a lot of crazy ideas which are very entertaining.

Does that mean that the series was not made for me despite the fact that I enjoy the series itself and I just don't like how some of the characters behave?

Second of all to say the series was not made for you on individual level maybe correct but if you put your work out there and publish it worldwide then people have the right to criticize it if they don't like it.

That's called free speech, nobody's allowed to have freedom of speech anymore?

Another thing this guy does very often is that he justifies a lot of the things that the character does when other people don't agree with it.

For example, Akane beats up Ranma quite a lot and this guy points out the fact that a lot of people don't like her because of it and she lacks self-control

He justifies it by saying "it's a slapstick comedy"

Maybe I miss something here but it is possible to have slapstick without having a character abuse somebody constantly.

Don't get me wrong a lot of the time Ranma does ask for it but there are times when he doesn't.

Personally I think this should only been either the first or second season and then as the series went on Akane sure very slowly learned how to control her emotions.

A little better character development, I think that would have been pretty effective.

You can still have characters tripping and falling down that's not a big deal.

If you want to have slapstick in your story that's fine but don't rely on it way too much, I think it's telling ages and story is more important.

The bottom line is I find it very funny how this guy is having a meltdown on the internet over people hating a fictional character and he has the god to call them names

"You're just a bunch of fangirls"

This is coming from the guy who's defending a fictional character as if they were dating.

If that's not the behavior of a "fangirl" then tell me what is.

But whatever, that's just my opinion.

If you guys agree with this article, then that's fine.

Feel free to post it in the comments and tell me what you think.

Maybe there's something I missed here.

If you really helpful if you guys can point it out if I did.

I hope to hear from you guys soon better tell me if there's anything I missed here.

Bye

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 3 months ago

Hello guys I'm working on a fanfiction of Ranma featuring a new character named Renee, she's an American exchange student who is staying with the Tendos. I'm going to post a snippet of my first chapter and tell me what you guys think so far.

A tall, beautiful woman with dark hair pulled back in a ponytail appeared as if summoned by magic. She had the kindest face I had ever seen, and she carried a tray with a teacup already prepared.

"Welcome to our home, Renee-san," Kasumi said with a gentle smile. "Please sit down and rest."

While I drank my tea in the living room, I could hear Ranma talking to Akane in the hallway. They were not exactly being quiet about it.

"Why are you being so hostile to her? She just arrived here."

"I do not trust her. She likes girls just like those boys at school like girls. She is the same as them."

I rolled my eyes and took another sip of tea. So Akane was one of those people who thought every gay person in the world wanted to chase after every single person they met. Seriously? I was exhausted, soaking wet, and sitting in a stranger's house in a foreign country. The last thing on my mind was romance.

Kasumi sat down across from me as if nothing was wrong.

"So, Renee-san, what are some of your hobbies?"

I set down my cup. "Well, I kickbox to stay in shape and learn self-defense. I do freestyle wrestling competitively. And I play water polo. I also like reading when I have time. Fantasy stories and old classics mostly."

"How wonderful," Kasumi said, and she actually sounded like she meant it.

A few hours later, the rest of my stuff arrived in boxes. Soun showed me to the dojo, a beautiful wooden training hall attached to the house. I set up my double-ended bag, hanging it from a hook on the ceiling and anchoring it to the floor. I wrapped my hands carefully with my worn cloth wraps and pulled on my gloves.

Then I started hitting.

Jab. Cross. Slip left. Hook. The bag bounced and swung and I followed it, moving my head, keeping my feet light. Every punch carried the frustration of the day. The stares on the street. Akane's words. The camera flashing in my face.

I did not notice Ranma leaning against the dojo doorframe, watching me with his arms crossed and that cocky half-smile on his face.

"Not bad," he said. "You have got some real power in that cross."

I caught the bag and looked at him, breathing hard.

"Thanks."

"This place is crazy," he said. "But you will get used to it. Probably."

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u/Far-Advertising-9294 — 3 months ago