u/Far-Shift-1962

Does Kendall use L'Oréal pdrn or Anua pdrn? 😍😍😍

So, inspired by this u/acornacornacorna comment about "spectrum of education of cosmetic chemists" https://www.reddit.com/r/EuroSkincare/s/LRdO6jIvj0

I want to make callout about lack of education which javon presents , which is included in spectrum of cosmetic chemistry

We know that he is popular, his main point is that "he is cosmetic chemist"

However, as someone who have some knowledge about formulations of home care products (surface cleaning , dishwashing, laundry, and to some extent about biocides)

When I saw video of javon, where he tried to prove "as cosmetic chemist" that dawn powerwash is "dawn dishsoap+ alcohol" ( https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8rBK2Cg/) and it's overpriced, I already known that he doesn't know what he talk about

Dawn power wash (and fairy power spray skip the soak) are based on :

Surfactants

Solvents,

Chelators

And alkaline pH

It's more like kitchen degreaser than "dish soap with alcohol"

Dawn ingridients are :

Surfactants: c10-16 alkyldimethylamine oxide, hexyl ethoxylate, lauryl glucoside, sodium xylenesulfonate.

Solvents: alcohol, dipropylene glycol butyl ether, ethanolamine, water.

Chelators: sodium citrate, tetrasodium glutamate diacetate,

Texture adjuster: ppg-26

Preservative- phenoxyethanol

And scent

The heavy-duty version of powerwash lacks alcohol in place of bigger amount of dipropylene glycol to my knowledge.

Fairy ingridients:

Surfactants:

Lauramine oxide, undeceth-10, Dodecylbenzene Sulfonic Acid

Solvents: water, dipropylene glycol butyl ether, ethanolamine,

Chelators: none

Ph adjusters: sodium hydroxide/lye, sodium carbonate/washing soda, sulfuric acid

Texture adjuster - polyethylene glycol

Fragrance

The pH of dawn power wash is 10.6 - 11.4 via sds

The pH of fairy power spray is also 10.6 - 11.4 via sds

While pH of fairy max power hand dish soap liquid is 8.4-9.4

And pH of dawn platinum plus power suds liquid is 9

So both power wash and fairy skip the soak power spray ARE MORE ALKALINE, and this DOES make a difference

While fairy lacks one of really important things which are in dawn, chelators, which really help to a- boost surfactant effectiveness due prevention of calcium/magnesium interacting with surfactants

And there is some evidence that suggest chelators helps removing carbonised / burnt off food and grease,

at the same time the another really important ingridients aka solvents are pretty much exactly the same, I'm not mad about lack of ethanol in fairy since dawn power wash heavy duty also lacks ethanol

The surfactant systems in dawn and fairy are completely different

But surfactants in both versions are simmilary effective in removing grease.

So claiming that dawn powerwash is "dish soap with alcohol in spray bottle" is scientifically incorrect, and using cosmetic chemist authority to claim that pisses me off

While dawn power wash have alcohol, it's not the main star of dawn,

The main star is dipropylene glycol butyl ether (brand name dowanol dpnb) and ethanolamine (to be more specific p&g uses monoethanolamine afaik)

This is pretty much basic knowledge in cosmetics chemistry which javon should know "as cosmetic chemist"

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=5739c5b9-00d8-75a8-e063-6394a90aa8c7

First of all, except 5% bemotrizinol it uses 3% avobenzone, 5% octisalate,

And not fda recognised chemical SPF boosters which works simmilar to chemical sunscreen, aka ethylhexyl metoxycrylene, and butyloctyl salicylate

Typical shady UV 🤡

I saw that detergent on biggest bullshit factory, aka TikTok,.

And god, their marketing maked me laughing for hour.

https://www.guestsonearth.com/collections/laundry/products/laundry-detergent

ChElAtOrS aRe ToXiC,

Meanwhile ingridients list: sodium citrate, sodium gluconate aka... chelators.

So you are saying your product is toxic? Since it contains chelators? 🤡

Also - the negative of enzymes is that they can degrade natural fibres so we used corrected blend of enzymes that clean without compromising integrity of fabric.

Ummm, only protease and wool? And too big cellulase dose on cellulose fabrics, but at the same time you use that enzymes which "compromise" integrity of fabric

Also, the dosing- they claim 5 ml is enough to wash whole load.

Yeah, only if you believe in homeopathy, because that's homeopathic dose.

And also - no preservatives: do you wanna be true the laundress 2.0, and also wanna have recall because of lack of preservation and microbial contamination

So, I was looking at my pharmacy for new sunscreens, and I found that uvage had new packaging,

I checked ingredients, and they are different

New uvage have :

Uvinul t150

Avobenzone

Tinosorb s

Mexoryl Sx/xl

Uvinul a plus

From skincare actives:

Lha

Matrixyl 300

And grifola frondosa extract

Still have Netlock technology

Old one was Shaka fluid dupe

Had octisalate, avobenzone, uvinul t 150, tinosorb s, mexoryl Sx / xl

From actives it had 2% niacinamide, rice peptides, viretoscella ferment, and 1% Vit e

Cotton under electron microscope,

One washed in high quality detergent (tide free gentle)

And one washed in "leading free detergent" - aka in all free & clear

Yeah, scrud forming , not washing at all.

Totally useless yet still the most popular 🤡

Source : https://www.pgsciencebehind.com/en-ca/free-gentle/clinical-data/cleaning-performance-clinical

Inspired by new video of some dry cleaner ;) https://youtube.com/shorts/OXDPnKRaiTA?is=BIkNJt\_J1p9KB1Dg

He claims that in us cold water setting is 30°c/86°f

Meanwhile from p&g study https://aocs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jsde.12467 : ""Lipophilic soils, including sebum transferred onto fabrics from skin, are more difficult to remove in colder wash temperatures (e.g., 15 °C versus 30 °C), while the rheology of several food greases becomes more similar to that of adhesives at 15 °C (Stenger and Vinson, 2018). In the United States, 44.7% of households wash over 50% of their laundry loads on a cold-water setting (P&G unpublished internal data based on n = 54,136 loads of laundry done in 304 households in the United States from 2018 to 2019). A cold-water setting is defined as 16 ± 4.2 °C (AATCC Committee, 2016 - https://www.scribd.com/document/262242086/Aatcc-Monogram-m06 ). Although washing on cooler water cycles decreases the energy use associated with consumer laundering, it can make odor removal from fabrics more difficult because sebum residues harden (the viscosity increases) at lower temperatures such as 20 °C (Burton, 1970; Butcher and Coonin, 1949). This problem is exacerbated by the fact that 24% of laundry loads are underdosed (P&G unpublished internal data based on n = 37991 loads of laundry done in 340 consumer households in the United States in 2019)"

So, in us , cold water setting IS NOT 30°c/86°c, it's a freaking 16°c /60.8°f

AATCC says that warm water setting in us reality= 30°c /86°f

In Europe 30°c is cold, but let's not forget that all EU washers have built in heater, while in us machines depends on water temperature by mixing cold and hot water, and if even washer have heater built in, it's mostly to keep water temperature.

aka domol quick and cool,

I checked scent, meh, not bad but not my fav

have dnase, mannanase, cellulase

no protease at all

To prove that I'm not Loreal shill ;)

Ok so, polish Rossmann now have testers of that toner/essence, I tested on hand, I loved texture, and because was on sale I bought it (26.99 pln/6,50€ , normally it cost 46.99/11euro)

and I started using for about week now.

Some context, my skin is combination into more oily side, with some seb derm around Nose and Brows, acne prone/prone to comedones

And I must say, this essence is REALLY good, hydrates skin REALLY well, calms skin.

Addition of piroctone olamine controls seb derm.

Even though it does have isopropyl palmitate it didn't break me out at all

It totally replaced moisturizer for my skin for now.

So I can cleanse skin (Eucerin dermopure clinical aha bha pha)

Put this essence,

And in am put sunscreen (CeraVe mattifying fluid)

And in ready

For 11€ I wouldn't buy that tbh, but for 6,50? HELL YES.

Someone posted about AI graphics on isana sheet mask.

But is seems that whole Rossmann team is based on AI I just 7 ai generated pics just on start page of polish Rossmann app 💀🤡

https://kenvuepro.com/en-us/brands/neutrogena/resources/formulating-high-efficacy-sunscreens-with-bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol

So yeah, they gonna probably be first launching formulations on us market

Inspired by recent post about new super "innovative" avene serum I decided to compare prices of this serum now where I live (Poland) to prices in Priceline.

The difference in prices is CRIMINAL

To compare prices I choosed 2 most popular pharmacy chains - Ziko and Gemini .

Gemini now have discount so serum costs 124 pln/ 47 AUD.

Ziko have this serum for 170 pln- 64 aud

Meanwhile priceline- 99 aud/262 pln.

The markup/tax for Australia compared to Europe IS INSANE.

2X more expensive 💀

New account, pretty empty, at the same time promotes dad mode product everywhere

Pure guerilla marketing

Ac*ive brand who?

No messy capfulls 😌