Are wake windows, schedules, and nap lengths a lie???

My November babe is 8.5 months. I’m an elementary school teacher and just went back to work part time. Baby is a notoriously terrible sleeper. She wakes up about every three hours, and will not nap independently for longer than 30 minutes. I was so scared with going back to work that I was going to be a zombie, and that daycare would be a nightmare because of the nap situation. I don’t believe in sleep training, and we have been cosleeping on and off since June in a floor bed.

When she is at daycare, her wake windows are very long. I’m talking 4 to 6 hours long. Her naps are also very short. She is only getting around 90 minutes of naps at daycare, and that is if we are lucky. However, her nighttime sleep has improved by miles!! The extra stimulation and socialization could also be a factor, but we have been getting longer stretches at night ever since starting daycare. My Apple Watch said I got over 8 HOURS of sleep last night!! When we get home from daycare, I often put her down for a nap to try to catch up on some sleep, and she is consistently napping for over an hour on her own now.

Now I can’t help but wondering if wake windows are a big fat lie??? And when our parents said that we didn’t wake at night, is that really the truth?? Wake windows were not a thing until the last 10ish years. I know that in 1994, my parents were certainly not watching wake windows. They said I slept when I was tired.

Is anyone else experiencing this sort of situation with a return to work and daycare? My mind is blown, and I’m questioning everything I thought I knew about infant sleep!

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 9 days ago

Working moms… how are we cosleeping?

My baby girl is 8 months. She just sleeps so much better when we cosleep. I know it’s natural for her to want me close and don’t believe in sleep training. I also find being next to her very comforting. I have been off since her birth in November. I return to work part time on Monday. I’m a second grade teacher and I’ll be working 2-3 days a week. We sleep in her room on a floor bed because my husband is a sleep ninja who also sleeps deeply, and I am nervous for her safety.

What are your practical tips for getting away for an hour in the morning to get ready? My husband leaves for work at 4. I will not have any help. She seems to search for me about every 30ish mins, but I am expected to look somewhat professional at my job and need that morning time.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 18 days ago

Working moms… how are we cosleeping?

My baby girl is 8 months. She just sleeps so much better when we cosleep. I know it’s natural for her to want me close and don’t believe in sleep training. I also find being next to her very comforting. I have been off since her birth in November. I return to work part time on Monday. I’m a second grade teacher and I’ll be working 2-3 days a week. We sleep in her room on a floor bed because my husband is a sleep ninja who also sleeps deeply, and I am nervous for her safety.

What are your practical tips for getting away for an hour in the morning to get ready? My husband leaves for work at 4. I will not have any help. She seems to search for me about every 30ish mins, but I am expected to look somewhat professional at my job and need that morning time.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 18 days ago

Daycare advice and 3 to 2 nap transition

My baby will be 8 months on the 23rd. I am based in the US, and am very lucky to have had an almost 9 month long maternity leave. However, we are getting ready to start daycare the first week of August when I return to work. It’ll only be 2-3 days a week (Monday, Tuesday, and every other Wednesday.) My babe has never been a good napper. Unless I’m laying next to her, she won’t sleep longer than 30 minutes at a time. She also gives my husband a hell of a time when he puts her down for a nap because it’s me who’s been doing it most of the time with being at home. I am nervous she won’t nap at daycare at all when being put down by the workers there.

On top of that, we are getting ready to transition from 3 naps to 2. She is tolerating much longer wake windows, fighting her third nap like a warrior going into battle, we are seeing an uptick in night wakings (sometimes as many as 7 a night), and that third nap is pushing bedtime LATE.

We have a great routine at home and a fairly predictable schedule. I’m nervous daycare is going to mess with this. I know their schedule and her naps there are out of my control, but I am worried about things feeling inconsistent for her once we start.
Does anybody who attends daycare have any advice for me?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 1 month ago

Daycare advice and 3 to 2 nap transition

My November babe will be 8 months on the 23rd. I am based in the US, and am very lucky to have had an almost 9 month long maternity leave. However, we are getting ready to start daycare the first week of August when I return to work. It’ll only be 2-3 days a week (Monday, Tuesday, and every other Wednesday.) My babe has never been a good napper. Unless I’m laying next to her, she won’t sleep longer than 30 minutes at a time. She also gives my husband a hell of a time when he puts her down for a nap because it’s me who’s been doing it most of the time with being at home. I am nervous she won’t nap at daycare at all when being put down by the workers there.

On top of that, we are getting ready to transition from 3 naps to 2. She is tolerating much longer wake windows, fighting her third nap like a warrior going into battle, we are seeing an uptick in night wakings (sometimes as many as 7 a night), and that third nap is pushing bedtime LATE.

We have a great routine at home and a fairly predictable schedule. I’m nervous daycare is going to mess with this. I know their schedule and her naps there are out of my control, but I am worried about things feeling inconsistent for her once we start.
Does anybody who attends daycare have any advice for me?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 1 month ago

How much help are you getting overnight?

My baby girl is 7 months old. Up until around mid April, she was sleeping 5-6 hour stretches at the beginning of the night. There were even a couple times she slept 9+ hours in a row. Then it all went downhill after the regression. I feed her around 8:30, she falls asleep, and I swear she is awake every hour looking for a snuggle until her next feed around 1:30. (We have floor beds right next to one another. I’m on a full sized mattress and she is on a crib mattress.) Then she wakes again to eat around 4:30-5. Then up for the day around 7-7:30. If I pull her into my bed in the middle of the night, she NEEDS to be touching me or she cries, and then I can’t sleep. I feel like right now is the worst her sleep has ever been, but she also cut 2 teeth this month and is starting to become mobile. I go back to work at the beginning of august and i am dreading it due to lack of sleep. I’m a second grade teacher, so my job requires that i have both energy and patience. I read that night wakings peak between 8-10 months, and Im trying to brace myself.

Since she was probably 2 months old, I have been the only one taking on nights. She is EBF, but I do pump and she takes a bottle. My husband sleeps in our room while she and I are in her room on the floor beds. I am slowly feeling more and more resentful about the sleep situation. My fuse has grown so short. It feels like he and I are experiencing two very different parenthood’s because he is fully rested and chipper, and I am a zombie slogging through the day. He does have work very early during the week (leaves at 4 AM), but I don’t even get extra help on the weekends. The other night, I was literally crying from exhaustion at 2 AM, while thinking about him being on the other side of the wall and being completely oblivious to how much I was struggling at the current moment. When I go back to work next month, I’ll be awake early too. Baby will need to be dropped off at daycare by 6:30 AM.

How much help are you guys getting over night from your partners? Do you guys have any suggestions I can use for how to make the situation more equitable?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

How much help do you get over night?

My November babe was born on November 23rd. Up until around mid April, she was sleeping 5-6 hour stretches at the beginning of the night. There were even a couple times she slept 9+ hours in a row. Then it all went downhill after the regression. I feed her around 8:30, she falls asleep, and I swear she is awake every hour looking for a snuggle until her next feed around 1:30. (We have floor beds right next to one another. I’m on a full sized mattress and she is on a crib mattress.) Then she wakes again to eat around 4:30-5. Then up for the day around 7-7:30. If I pull her into my bed in the middle of the night, she NEEDS to be touching me or she cries, and then I can’t sleep. I feel like right now is the worst her sleep has ever been, but she also cut 2 teeth this month and is starting to become mobile. I go back to work at the beginning of august and i am dreading it due to lack of sleep. I’m a second grade teacher, so my job requires that i have both energy and patience. I read that night wakings peak between 8-10 months, and Im trying to brace myself.

Since she was probably 2 months old, I have been the only one taking on nights. She is EBF, but I do pump and she takes a bottle. My husband sleeps in our room while she and I are in her room on the floor beds. I am slowly feeling more and more resentful about the sleep situation. My fuse has grown so short. It feels like he and I are experiencing two very different parenthood’s because he is fully rested and chipper, and I am a zombie slogging through the day. He does have work very early during the week (leaves at 4 AM), but I don’t even get extra help on the weekends. The other night, I was literally crying from exhaustion at 2 AM, while thinking about him being on the other side of the wall and being completely oblivious to how much I was struggling at the current moment. When I go back to work next month, I’ll be awake early too. Baby will need to be dropped off at daycare by 6:30 AM.

How much help are you guys getting over night from your partners? Do you guys have any suggestions I can use for how to make the situation more equitable?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

7 months of EBF

Just wanted to make a quick celebratory post. Today my little girl is 7 months old, which means 7 months of also being EBF 🙌🏻🎉 she does take a bottle of pumped milk once a day too. Never once have I had to give her formula (no shade to anyone that uses it though.)

She weighs 18 lbs and is in the 73rd percentile for weight, in the 94th percentile for height, her head circumference is in the 92nd percentile, and wears a size 3 diaper. Not to toot my own horn, but I 👏🏼did 👏🏼that 👏🏼😎 The fact that my body sustained her during pregnancy for 9 months and has continued to sustain her for this long blows my mind.

I struggled so hard at the beginning with breastfeeding. Her latch was terrible, she had a tongue AND upper lip tie, she didn’t have a wet diaper within the first 24 hours in the hospital after birth (which was a huge ordeal), and my nipples looked like they’d been to war. My goal was to make it to one year. I didn’t know if I’d even make it to a month, and there were countless tears. But I kept my goal in mind and here we are. 💗

Will I stop after 12 months? Who knows. Maybe I’ll try and go even longer to get her through her second winter and her first year of daycare. For now, I am just so happy we made it.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago
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Cosleeping while on vacation- need tips

My little girl is almost 7 months old. We just recently began cosleeping together on a floor bed in her room. However, it is the summer months here in the US, so we have a few trips planned out of town. The first one is this weekend, and I know there will be a queen sized bed there for us. My husband is a sleep trasher/ninja, so he is bringing his camping cot to sleep on while my daughter and I take the bed.

I would love to hear any and all tips that you guys have for cosleeping while out of town! I want to make sure that it can be done as safely as possible.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago
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The worlds most peaceful nap

My daughter is almost 7 months old, and we just recently began safely cosleeping. This morning when I woke up, I was tired. Like the kind of tired where I just wanted another hour so badly, and couldn’t shake it off. I was crabby and just not myself because of it.

I laid down with my baby in her flood bed for her second nap of the day around 1, thinking I’d just close my eyes for a bit. We fell asleep together and let me tell you what… it was glorious. It was chilly in her room, so we were snuggled up tight. When my eyes opened, we were literally almost forehead to forehead. I looked at the clock and was shocked that an hour and 40 minutes had gone by. It was one of the top 5 naps I can remember ever having taken. She clearly enjoyed it just as much as I did, or else she never would’ve slept that long.

Just thought I’d share! ❤️

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

New to cosleeping and have questions- mind blown at the difference

I am a FTM to my 6 month old daughter, who is the absolute light of my life. Her entire life, she slept in a Snoo bassinet right next to our bed. We used to get a long stretch of around 5-6 hours, then wake ups every 2-3. Then around 5 months, she started hating the Snoo. We were getting false starts every hour for the first 3 hours, and then she’d only sleep 90 minutes at a time after. I was basically a sleep deprived walking zombie, as she’s EBF and I’m the only one handling nights. We recently set up a full sized floor bed (an extra firm Plank) in her room hoping the transition would go well. So far, it has not. It’s no better than what we were experiencing in the Snoo.

Last night she had her usual rounds of false starts. So I coslept with her for the first time for the entire night in her floor bed using the safe sleep 7. She slept from 10:30-3:30, nursed, fell back asleep until 5:45, nursed again, and slept until 7. I am shocked. I haven’t gotten 5 hours of sleep in a row in MONTHS. I feel so much better this morning!! It was so cozy and I loved knowing she was just right there. Before deciding to cosleep full time, I have some questions…

•I return to work in August. I’m a second grade teacher, and need to look somewhat professional. Does your child wake up when an alarm goes off? Are you able to roll out and away for an hour or so before your child wakes in order to get ready for your day?

•I’ve read that once your baby is 4+ months, you don’t necessarily have to stay in the C curl. Thoughts on this?

•If you have a babysitter, how do they handle putting your child to sleep? What if both mom and dad are away for the weekend?

•How does this affect your relationship if you’re not able to sleep with your husband? Our bed is a pillow top and he is a WILD and heavy sleeper. I hesitate to bring her into our bed for her safety.

•I am a bit scared that if I start cosleeping with her, I’ll never make it back into my own bed. At what age did your child start sleeping independently?

Thank you all! ❤️

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

New to cosleeping and have questions- mind blow at the difference

I am a FTM to my 6 month old daughter, who is the absolute light of my life. Her entire life, she slept in a Snoo bassinet right next to our bed. We used to get a long stretch of around 5-6 hours, then wake ups every 2-3. Then around 5 months, she started hating the Snoo. We were getting false starts every hour for the first 3 hours, and then she’d only sleep 90 minutes at a time after. I was basically a sleep deprived walking zombie, as she’s EBF and I’m the only one handling nights. We recently set up a full sized floor bed (an extra firm Plank) in her room hoping the transition would go well. So far, it has not. It’s no better than what we were experiencing in the Snoo.

Last night she had her usual rounds of false starts. So I coslept with her for the first time for the entire night in her floor bed using the safe sleep 7. She slept from 10:30-3:30, nursed, fell back asleep until 5:45, nursed again, and slept until 7. I am shocked. I haven’t gotten 5 hours of sleep in a row in MONTHS. I feel so much better this morning!! It was so cozy and I loved knowing she was just right there. Before deciding to cosleep full time, I have some questions…

•I return to work in August. I’m a second grade teacher, and need to look somewhat professional. Does your child wake up when an alarm goes off? Are you able to roll out and away for an hour or so before your child wakes in order to get ready for your day?

•I’ve read that once your baby is 4+ months, you don’t necessarily have to stay in the C curl. Thoughts on this?

•if you have a babysitter, how do they handle putting your child to sleep? What if both mom and dad are away for the weekend?

•How does this affect your relationship if you’re not able to sleep with your husband? Our bed is a pillow top and he is a WILD and heavy sleeper. I hesitate to bring her into our bed for her safety.

•I am a bit scared that if I start cosleeping with her, I’ll never make it back into my own bed. At what age did your child start sleeping independently?

Thank you all! ❤️

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

At a loss- 6 month old sleep and going back to work

Last night was our 6 month olds first night in her floor bed, and first night in her own room. She typically falls asleep with butt pats while I lay next to her and sing a lullaby. She woke up crying after 35 mins and calmed/fell back asleep immediately when I went in and laid with her. This type of false start happens almost every night. (Nothing we have done seems to fix this. I could do an entire post on just that alone.) She then woke up fully probably an hour later, so I went and did the same thing again. After I left she kept fussing and whining really badly, but with her eyes closed. I could see her on the baby monitor rubbing her eyes hard and rolling around to reach out for me, but I wasn’t there. I went in and laid with her again, but she woke another hour later fussing. Finally at 1130, after her fourth wake up in 3 hours, I fed her and slept in there with her using safe sleep 7. She slept great the whole time I was there and ate again at 245 and fell back asleep. At 4, I brought us both into my bed, and she slept through until 645. This sort of night is par for the course.

I am at a loss with what to do with her sleep at this point, and feel like I’m failing. We spent a lot of money and time on her floor bed set up, as well as a lot of thought going into babyproofing her entire room. We thought it was gonna help, but it’s no better than the bedside bassinet. She only sleeps well if I’m cosleeping with her. My husband says we need to let her fuss it out the entire night and he wants her sleeping out of our room and independently. I know it’s because he has to start his big project for the year at work this week, and his alarm goes off at 3:30. I told him I’ll never sleep just listening to her struggle all night, and I think it’s natural for babies to want to sleep next to their moms. He then went as far as telling me to get a hotel room and he’d handle it. But he’s never dealt with her night wakes. He sleeps all night while I do it, so it’s easy for him to minimize it and say it’s as simple as letting her fuss all night. I truly believe she and I would both get solid sleep with only 1-2 wake ups for her to eat if we just coslept. I have to go back to work too in less than 2 months, and idk how I’m supposed to have a cosleeping baby with an alarm either, or be able to get ready for work if she expects me to be in the bed with her. I teach second grade, so I have to have some energy during the day.

Does anyone have any words of advice?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 2 months ago

False starts

My baby girl is 6 months (26 weeks) old. Since the beginning of April, her sleep has really deteriorated. She used to give us a long stretch at the beginning of the night, like 5-6 hours, then wake up every 2-3 hours until morning. It was good infant sleep. Now, she has become the queen of false starts. Every single night without fail, within 25-60 minutes after bedtime, she starts scream crying. What’s crazy is that most of the time, her eyes are closed. I don’t even think she’s truly awake. Sometimes it’s just once at the beginning of the night. Other nights it’s every hour for the first 3-4 hours she’s asleep, so every sleep cycle. We are still room sharing, so no one can sleep through it. After her first wake up to eat, it stops, but she’ll be fully awake every hour and a half after that. We are moving her to a floor bed in her own room in a couple weeks.

Has anyone else been experiencing this?? I am at my wits end. I can’t relax at the beginning of the night at all because I am anticipating her screaming.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago

False starts

My baby girl is 6 months (26 weeks) old. Since the beginning of April, her sleep has really deteriorated. She used to give us a long stretch at the beginning of the night, like 5-6 hours, then wake up every 2-3 hours until morning. It was decent infant sleep. Now, she has become the queen of false starts. Every single night without fail, within 25-60 minutes after bedtime, she starts scream crying. What’s crazy is that most of the time, her eyes are closed. I don’t even think she’s truly awake. Sometimes it’s just once at the beginning of the night. Other nights it’s every hour for the first 3-4 hours she’s asleep, so every sleep cycle. We are still room sharing, so no one can sleep through it. After her first wake up to eat, it stops, but she’ll be fully awake every hour and a half after that. We are moving her to a floor bed in her own room in a couple weeks. .

Has anyone else been experiencing this?? I am at my wits end. I can’t relax at the beginning of the night at all because I am anticipating her screaming.

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago

Back vs side sleeping safety

My sweet baby girl is 6 months old today. While we don’t full time cosleep, I do bring her into bed with me for an hour or two in the early mornings (5:30-7:30ish.) During this time, she loves to side sleep basically curled right up on me. Pretty much her face to my boobs while I’m in the C curl position. I will try to flip her on her back, and she will cry and will fully wake up. If I don’t do that, she sleeps like a rock. She has great head and neck control. I know re-breathing is a danger, but her face isn’t buried in my chest. It’s a few inches away. Is it still considered safe to leave her on her side like this to cosleep? Or should I continue trying to flip her on her back?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago
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TCB- worth the cost?

Our baby girl will be 6 months on Saturday. Her sleep is not great by any means. We follow age appropriate wake windows, have a bedtime routine, and a designated wake up time. In between sleep cycles, she doesn’t fully wake (eyes are closed), but scream cries in her sleep. If I put a hand on her and tell her it’s okay, she immediately settles, only for it to happen in another hour. We also experience a false start nightly, and only get 2-3 hour chunks of sleep at a time.

Is Taking Cara Babies worth the cost? I keep seeing that it’s modified Ferber, but on her Instagram she just recently made a post saying “it’s so much more than that.” But like obviously she would say that because it’s her own program? I purchased her 3-4 month old book when our baby was 3 months and it didn’t tell me any info I didn’t already know. I was less than impressed.

Any experiences or advice are welcome!

For those who have purchased the program, would it work well for a baby that is EBF?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago

Independent baby sleep in a floor bed?

We have a 6 month old who we are planning on transitioning to a floor bed in the next couple weeks in her own room. However, we do not plan to cosleep with her through the night. I will go lay with her if need be, and will probably cosleep in the 5-7 AM morning hours, like we always do. My husband is much too heavy of a sleeper (and a thrasher arounder) to safely cosleep with her. However, most of her sleep in the floor bed will be independent. Is anybody else out there in the same boat?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago

Independent baby sleep in a floor bed?

We have a 6 month old who we are planning on transitioning to a floor bed in the next couple weeks in her own room. However, we do not plan to cosleep with her. I will only go lay with her if need be. Is anybody else out there in the same boat?

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago

Are we missing anything for our set up?

We are getting ready to transition our 6 month old out of the Snoo and onto a floor bed. We are forgoing the crib completely, as the floor bed just seems like a better fit for our family (eliminates a transfer, easier to nurse or snuggle her back to sleep.) Below is a list of items we’ve purchased to make sure this is a safe set up….

•Full sized Plank mattress with removable cooling cover
•frame for under mattress to prevent mold
•nonslip pad thing to keep mattress from sliding off frame
•Harpa play pen to go around mattress
•my husband purchased pool noodles to use as bumpers
•All possible baby proofing things for the room

I also have 2 questions. One: are the pool noodles as bumpers considered safe? Two: we want to put the mattress in the corner of the room. I’ve read mixed messages on the safety of this as well (risk of entrapment.) Any advice is appreciated!

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u/Fragrant_Lime_6626 — 3 months ago